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I purchased the phone about a month ago, from the day I purchased it the camera did not operate correctly. I took my device to the store in an attempt to get it replaced with a new one. Unfortunately for me my camera just happened to work that day which was also the last day of the 30 day warranty. The guy pretty much said that he couldnt help me because my device worked, but then he gave me this number saying that if there is any further problems they will take care of it. So I call the ATT warranty department the next day (my camera broke again) and they said that they were sending me a REFURBISHED phone. I talked with them for 2 hours and they pretty much sait there is nothing they can do.
So I get this refurbished phone and right out of the box it looks of poor quality, I later find out that no matter what I do, the device will not charge. So I send in for another refurb which is of even worse condition and this one wont sync to my PC.
Do any of you guys have any ideas that could help I called the warranty department and coustomer care TWICE, asked to speak to both supervisors, threatened to change my entire family's service and they dont reply with anything except that the phone can not be replaced with a new phone. What do you think I should do?
dude that sucks!
ive never had a problem gettin a swap out.. and i bricked my first tilt..
u need to speak to managers and managers only, throw a fit make a scene in the store they'll work with u!
Learn from your mistake so you don't repeat it in the future. If you have an issue with a phone within the 30 day period, make sure it's fully taken care of within that time frame. Unfortunately you took some clerk's word for what would happen instead of double checking yourself.
AT&T most likely isn't going to do anything more from you. They have pretty good customer service and retention, but it is within their rights to give you a refurbished phone.
I also find it hard to believe that they shipped you two refurbished phones that right out of the box appeared to be of "poor quality." If the phone's had a shoddy appearance they wouldn't have been sent back out.
If your next replacement (refurb) is not functional, then tell them that it is getting ridiculous that you have had 3 replacments and they were all bad (again, I find that dubious). If the phone's are malfunctioning to any extent that you can't make calls (like a phone won't recharge) then they should be crediting your account on a daily basis when you can't use the phone.
Lastly, you can threaten to go to your credit card issuer (assuming you bought it with one) or to the BBB. Again, these are mostly threats, and I don't suggest you follow through unless you are truly getting bad refurbs 3 times in a row. Don't just take a negative attitude and look for problems becuase it isn't a new phone...you aren't likely to get one.
However, you could realistically cancel your service, and then refuse to pay any cancellation fees because they weren't honoring their end of the deal by providing you with functioning equipment. Even though you might have a leg to stand on....it will still probably get sent to collections and mar your credit.
Of the refurbs I got, these were in the condition I stated. When I called ATT they said something along the lines of 'every once in awhile a bad one slips through, but its pretty rare.'
I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
What I am saying is third time is a charm...you can't keep getting bad ones
Also, I know how it can be mentally (as I would feel the same way) that a refurb just isn't as good and you would rather have a new one even if you saw a refurb pass every single test.
Try for #3 and if you are still out of luck...go with the other poster's suggestion and make a scene in the store
This reminds me of when i had the 8525 hermes. I was sent about 3 phones from them that were of bad quality. Bluetooth problems and yellowish tint screen.. The unwritten rule is that after 3 phones youre sopost to get a upgrade of the latest comperable model. Right now the tilt is the latest pocket pc but at the time, the tilt replaced the 8525 and thats how i recieved my tilt..
Moral is.... wait til the next ppc comes out and make a scene.. but also bring that point up to warranty replacement.
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I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
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Happened to me last week, two bad ones, and a third one that was good. It's possible, and somewhat probable for a scenario like that to occur. It's not like saying he put a million dollars on "00" at the roulette table and won
I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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well now we know why AT&T sometimes has such a sweet deal on refurb tilts LOL
Ok you said the second phone couldnt sync to pc. If you search through this forum I guarantee there is a fix for that.
Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow Sorry I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the insinuation that they would actually care. The sad fact is T-Mobile Is worse in service availability. And Sprint? I wouldn't wish that on my enemy.
Here is a link: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=4607
No BS this will work !!
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
I understand what you mean, but I am completely unprepared to take them to court over such a minor issue. Im going to expend all of my other options first, I still have to go back to the store and argue there that it is there fault because they did not support there 30-day return policy in the first place. The man let me walk out of the store with a broken phone. I should have handeled it then but I didnt realize I would be dialing in and getting more refurbs.
Also, my third refurb arrived today, the device functions completely as intended. The problem now is that the keyboard on this new device does not seem very responsive, or at least, not nearly as responsive as the keyboard on my first device (which I still have). I am upset with this as my other Tilt is in premium condition, not a single scratch. I think I am going to return this one as well.
not good
hey I work for the company and
1. they kinda HAVE to exchange your phone in store if you got it over the phone, over att.com or at a corporate store. if you are within 30 days the rep should do the exchange, the rep u got was an A*&*LE. some act like the store stock and shipping cost come from their pocket.
2. if you get an idiot customer svc rep just hangup and call back , sometime u have to bend the truth. say u have a phone that drops calls ( they are afraid of this) and u tried ur friend's SIM card and still does not work correctly.
3. sorry you did not come to my store.(NY)
4. almost impossible to get a new phone through warranty or insurance.
5. if ya'll have any Q's bout stuff PM me.
out...
This is exactly why sometimes the "best deal" is not a good deal...
I only buy my phones from the bigger retailers, Best Buy & the company directly....
Mom & Pop shops, and online retailers:
- Cheaper up front, can usually get you the best deal if you read the fine print and agree
- Usually require a 2nd contract stating you will not change you plan (or features) within 6 months to 1 year or they charge you a penalty (usually $200 for removing OR changing the kind of data service from a phone like the tilt-- ex.: change from Unlimited data $30/month to Unlimited data & Text for $50/month, you broke the contract, they will charge you $200)
- Do not have to accept returns. Returns are done by companies as a 'favor' -- they are not required by US law (for most stores/products, some exceptions)
Big retailers or the Service Provider directly:
- Always have a return policy
- Almost never require a 2nd contract agreeing to keep features
- Usually $25 more for basic phones, up to $100 more for smartphones (they do not require Data, which most M&P/Internet sites give you $75-$100 off for getting and keeping for 6 months)
Other nice advantage of Big Retailers: If customer service at one place gives you no help and you're within reason to return it... go a few miles to another location and try again.... (again, if you're trying to return something 45 days later, you'll probably get no help where ever you go)
This wasnt a 'Mom and Pop' Shop, it was an official retailer. I was going to get the phone at a smaller AT&T but they said I would have to go to an official store that carried there high-end products. When I bought the phone the person I bought it from, I believe I have his buisiness card, but I will check later, allowed me to open the box in the store. He then told me if I wasn't satisfied I had 30 days for a return or replacement. I came back, 29 days later and they said that I had to call there warranty department because the device was not broken, and there fore he could not replace it. Essentially, they lied to me.
If it's not an AT&T corporate store, it's a Mom & Pop shop...
If they say "Authorized Retailer" they are not directly AT&T, they are reselling AT&T services and do not have to follow AT&T Corporate return policies...
Most of these locations are owned by individuals, or groups of individuals, as a business venture...
Keep in mind, anywhere from 50 to 85% of Wireless stores are NOT corporately owned by their service provider, and all of them (except T-Mobile) are allowed to put giant signs on the front of the building saying "AT&T" "Verizon" or "Sprint"... Sprint requires "Authorized Dealer" added to the logo, T-Mobile requires you to name your store something, and if you use T-Mobile logo it can be no more then 25% of the total sign space. AT&T I don't know the exact policy on their signage, but should require "Authorized Reseller" in the sign...
Of course, people can ignore these requirements, One of my old bosses did.. Hence why he's an old boss..
Quick Tip:
If they don't offer the IPhone they are not corporately owned...
At least in the DC metro area, every corporately owned AT&T store has a live active IPhone on display for customers to try
fizzie said:
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
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I worked for Acer Computers and they *****ed out with customers every single time something like this happened. This is sound advise
90 day warranty and 110 days after I buy it the keyboard starts to have letters that aren't working the first time I press them.
I know I have to replace it (myself), but I'm pissed off at AT&T for selling me a lemon!!!!
First of all a "lemon" is "[SIZE=-1]A vehicle, usually new, that has a large number of defects."
The Tilt is not a Vehicle. Nor can it be considered "new" is its refurbished. Also, one defect after warranty does not mean its a lemon.
And when you buy a refurbed anything, you assume the risk that it will break faster then a new. Hence why its so much cheaper.
Is it frustrating? Yes, it is no fun in the end. But such is that risk of Refurbed Items.
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Ok, so not technically a lemon.
But I thought the real tradeoff in a refurb was taking something that had previously had a problem and was therefore scrutinized again and thus less likely to have another problem immediately?
You take a gamble when you buy a refurb. Chances are fairly good you'll get something that was returned because it was "too much", too expensive, confusing for the user or something along those lines where the unit itself is fine. But you're rolling the dice by paying considerably less than full price and you may well end up with something that has a serious problem. The manufacturer generally turns it on and makes sure it looks ok but nothing more. They're not going to test the wifi, the keyboard, camera, etc, before stuffing it back in a box with all the rest of the crap that the phone ships with and sends it out the door. And when you consider that HTC doesn't care all that much about their brand new stuff, you're really rolling the dice with an HTC refurb.
If the keys work the second time you press them, a new keyboard may not 'fix' anything.
Searching the forum for keyboard issues will yield a lot of results. I know I've read quite a few threads about keyboard lag and missing letters while typing. Most seem to center on T9 and other auto-complete or auto-correct settings. You may find that you don't need a new keyboard after all - some software tweaks may solve your problem.
I bought a refurb Tilt, knowing it was a gamble. Thankfully, I haven't had any problems yet...
I got two junk Tilt's from AT&T before I got a good one. If the third one had also been garbage I would have probably been in serious trouble for what I would have done to one of their stores.
What really annoyed me MOST about it was when I got the second defective one I told them "LOOK, I've 'owned' this phone for 3 weeks and have yet to use it because you keep sending me CRAP!" and they said "Okay, look, tell us where you live and we'll get you to the nearest corporate store and swap it out tonight."
Of course I arrive at the store and they won't touch refurbs. At all. No question.
I got back on the phone in the parking lot and yelled at a few supervisors until they overnighted my new Tilt and took another $50 off of the $50 that it had apparently dropped in the last week, down to a total of $100 for it. Luckily the third one has been fine.
First two had serious keyboard problems.. One the keyboard had a big 'bump' in it and the keys around the right softkey would not work and the softkey was pressed by the screen all the time. The other one the screen freaked out whenever I opened it.
Okay, I reverted to an older rom and it is definitely a keyboard issue. It only affects the b, v, and space bar.
The question is whether I just need the replacement keyboard for $29 or much more...and can a noob replace it without totally effing it up.
Honestly I can say that I have a refurb, had it for about 6 months now, and haven't had problem one with it. Could have just been a fluke thing perhaps?
I returned my Nook and got a new one and was amazed at how much better the screen is. Mine had a slight bleed at the bottom I wasn't sure if that was all of them or not.
Anyways aside from the bleed gone, the screen is much more vibrant and clear. Just an fyi if anyone has a weird screen don't settle!
Cool, mine has a dead pixel that appeared only 2 days after I purchased it - I've been debating whether or not it's worth the time to reflash back to stock, etc... etc... and exchange it. I think I will.
My first nook had white splotches on the screen. I took it back to the store and the guy wouldn't exchange it. As soon as I told him I wanted my money back he changed his mind and gave me another one. He was a ****.
Then, after a week, the nook started creaking and squeaking all around the bezel. I called to get it exchanged. They said I had to go into the store. I went into the store. They said I had to do it online or on the phone. I called on the phone and argued with some lady for 30 minutes after which she told me that if I sent my current nook back and they didn't think anything was wrong with it, they'd charge me $250. I hung up and called right back and got a woman who was ok and told me the other lady was an idiot. Thanks guys.
I received my third nook in the mail. The A/C charger jack was broken. I couldn't put the jack in. So i called to get this replaced and argued with some guys in India for an hour and finally got a replacement.
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.
Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!
indagroove said:
I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!
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is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?
wpbear said:
Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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When I called BN phone support, they were not in India.
t3rabyte said:
tldr..
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.
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My wife and I both got a NC, same store, about a month apart. Both of ours work perfectly.
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)
The only issue with my screen is some binding/pinching where the bezel meets the LCD which causes slight bright spots at the bottom edge. I've seen this same issue with lower quality LCD monitors. Otherwise pleased with screen quality. Having worked in electronics manufacturing, I came to learn how variable quality control can be with some manufacturers.
Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance. my 1st NC ate an 8 gig microUSB and started bleeding by the vol. B&N took sent another straight away with postage paid for the return. NO PROB and they do have a vibrant screen from all angles.
a case would keep your nook safe from most screen probs, and be shure to line up your mcards.
EverythingNook said:
is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?
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Technically yes, but they will help with warrenty issues after that date to some degree as well.
n8nmad said:
Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance.
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I did buy the insurance, but didn't have to use it even though it was something like 45 days or more after I bought it. I brought it in planning to use the insurance (which is a one time shot apparently), but she told me they could just do it as a warranty exchange since it was so new. I'm not really sure how long they extend it for, but I was happy.
khaytsus said:
tldr...
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)
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Wow, yeah, my post was just soooo long.
If you read it, it said I had three bad nooks (Yes, I said 3). I never said everyone has bad ones. I said I won't buy from them again because their support sucks and their products are defective.
Maybe next time you comment on a post, read it first.
My first NC was defective. It had a bad accelerometer and/or a bad power button. Essentially, if you set it down occasionally it would act as if you pressed and held the power button and then tapped OK to shut down the tablet.
Here's a vid I took of it to convince the BN store staff I wasn't going nuts:
YOUTUBE DOT COM/watch?v=Zfit4oG4WaA
I'd bought the extended warranty but this happened within the first week of ownership. I talked to the manager of the store where I bought it and she swapped it for a new one and applied the warranty to NC #2. I'd heard the phone support was horrible, so made it a point to buy it locally. I'm glad I did.
I'm loving my new one. I'm going to Hawaii in a week and, for the first time in my life, will be travelling without a laptop. All I'm taking is my NC and a BT keyboard for it.
Are you sure you had a problem? Because khaytsus bought one for himself and his wife and didn't have any issues LOL
Wow, good thing the store owner was helpful. The guy on staff at my local BN refused to do anything and said all returns or exchanges definitely needed to go through the website.
I'm still not happy with my current Nook. The panel below the "N" button is depressed on both sides. But I'm sticking with it for now.
Backlight bleeding is pretty much the norm for any LCD screen. I've seen it on desktop monitors, TVs, laptops, tablets...etc. It will exist on even on the top of the line models and "best" brands.
If you just have only some slight backlight bleeding, I would discourage you from trying to exchange it. You're likely to get something worse like dead pixels.
I spent half an hour one the support line a second ago because my USB cable fried. The lady tried to have me enter my credit card number for some reason so I could buy "NOOKBooks". I argued with her for about 5 minutes and then she told me all I need to enter is my shipping address. She said that they would mail the replacement cable free of charge in 24 to 48 hours.
I didn't spend anytime on hold even though the automated message said that they are flooded with tech support calls.
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it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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Smarter people ask for a lot of money (if they are paying more money then whats the point of outsourcing) even in India only those who can't really find another job for themselves take up job's in call center's.
well I just returned my nook with a transformer incoming... i sure hope it has as good of a screen or ill prob end up another nook. lol
So i just got my note 4 yesterday and I love it been an android user since the og droid. Anyways here's the deal. I didn't have money to get a screen protector since I didn't get paid till today. Thought I would baby the phone till I could order one from Amazon but today i scratched it by accidentally putting it in my pocket with my old phone still in there( baggy sweats so I didn't notice).
Well I preordered a note 4 but went in to another store and they had one in Stock. Just checked my email and they just shipped my preorder. Could I open the package and switch sim cards without it triggering a change in phones? It's not a terrible scratch but it's an inch long and it's driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any help. Just switched from Verizon so I don't know how tmobile works.
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Androidfan80 said:
So i just got my note 4 yesterday and I love it been an android user since the og droid. Anyways here's the deal. I didn't have money to get a screen protector since I didn't get paid till today. Thought I would baby the phone till I could order one from Amazon but today i scratched it by accidentally putting it in my pocket with my old phone still in there( baggy sweats so I didn't notice).
Well I preordered a note 4 but went in to another store and they had one in Stock. Just checked my email and they just shipped my preorder. Could I open the package and switch sim cards without it triggering a change in phones? It's not a terrible scratch but it's an inch long and it's driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any help. Just switched from Verizon so I don't know how tmobile works.
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All the phones have embedded IMEI code numbers in the phone itself as well
as on the bar code label and that's the very first thing Verizon or or any other
carrier checks when you turn in a phone or return a phone for any reason.
If the IMEI number is different than what they expect it to be you will get
yourself in a lot of trouble, they will either not refund your money or bill
you for the full price of the phone if it hasn't been fully paid off already.
There is no way to change or alter the IMEI number.
Good luck!
hmm please clarify if I'm wrong but you want to swap your scratched phone and put the scratched phone in the new Note 4's box and return it. Am I correct?
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hmm please clarify if I'm wrong but you want to swap your scratched phone and put the scratched phone in the new Note 4's box and return it. Am I correct?
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As bad as it sounds yes I'm trying to do that. I sort of feel justified to do that because when opening the account they ported my number to my wife's phone and i had no cell service.
I heard if i put a screen protector on it itmight hide the scratch a little bit but it's killing me that my 2 day old phone has a big scratch on it.
Ouch, you're just begging for an onslaught of hostile replies, aren't you?
Here's the thing, you can't switch boxes, you can't switch phones in boxes, you can't switch IMEI's, and you're probably not going to be able to return a phone with a scratched screen, but ethics aside, there's always a very slim chance if the rep is distracted. You could always try faking Tourette Syndrome if you're really that desperate, but it seems like a lot of work for the slim chance of a relatively small payoff.
The screen protector they will almost for sure take off before scanning the phone in, but that idea did make me lol (thanks for that). You might have to live with it or hope that it isn't too noticeable with the protector on and use it that way. Don't mess with switching phones though if you want to avoid embarrassment in the store.
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Ouch, you're just begging for an onslaught of hostile replies, aren't you?
Here's the thing, you can't switch boxes, you can't switch phones in boxes, you can't switch IMEI's, and you're probably not going to be able to return a phone with a scratched screen, but ethics aside, there's always a very slim chance if the rep is distracted. You could always try faking Tourette Syndrome if you're really that desperate, but it seems like a lot of work for the slim chance of a relatively small payoff.
The screen protector they will almost for sure take off before scanning the phone in, but that idea did make me lol (thanks for that). You might have to live with it or hope that it isn't too noticeable with the protector on and use it that way. Don't mess with switching phones though if you want to avoid embarrassment in the store.
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Glad i was able to make you laugh lol. I was wondering about the screen protector for myself not to notice, not tmobile since it looks like i have to live with the scratch. I think i notice it more because I'm looking at every pixel of that beautiful screen. Too bad i didn't sign up for jump so i can trade it in for the note 5.
Ok here's my last resort before I'm stuck with it lol. Wonder if i can return it before the 14 day grace period is up and just get the nexus 6 when it comes out. Has anyone done this successfully before? I know I'll have to pay a $50 restocking fee.
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Glad i was able to make you laugh lol. I was wondering about the screen protector for myself not to notice, not tmobile since it looks like i have to live with the scratch. I think i notice it more because I'm looking at every pixel of that beautiful screen. Too bad i didn't sign up for jump so i can trade it in for the note 5.
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Ohh, ok.
Androidfan80 said:
Ok here's my last resort before I'm stuck with it lol. Wonder if i can return it before the 14 day grace period is up and just get the nexus 6 when it comes out. Has anyone done this successfully before? I know I'll have to pay a $50 restocking fee.
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The issue isn't returning and waiting for the Nexus, you can always do that, the issue is trying to return a phone with a scratch on the screen. The re-stock fee is just for opening the package, it doesn't cover damage. So really, the best answer you're going to get is either try to sell it on eBay - if there's no financing on the phone you could likely get close to what you paid, especially if you're willing to sell internationally, or, just take it back into the T-Mobile store and hope they don't notice. If you're really that determined and they refuse it, try taking it to other stores. It's not really ethical advice, but that's really your only option. Personally I would be way too mortified at the idea that i'm going to walk in, look the rep in the eye and expect him/her to take the phone with the scratch, it would look pretty shady. I would just sell it on eBay. But obviously it's up to you.
you scratched it, you own it...coming here asking for ways to pull a fast one isn't welcome, nor wanted...
Well, as entertaining as it would be to watch the onslaught here, this thread is going to be closed before it gets out of hand.
That being said, what you are wanting to do is not only immoral, but also illegal and unethical. No matter what screw ups you had to endure when they swapped your devices there is no justification for what you are attempting. This is equivalent to buying a new car, wrecking it, and returning it to the lot claiming this is how you received it.
You damaged the device, intentionally or not, and you must deal with the consequences of that action. Your carrier can hold you liable for the cost of both devices, in full, if you actually attempted to pursue this, not to mention having legal grounds to get you for fraud.
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The bottom of my screen is more yellow than the top so I'm having Moto RMA it. I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar issue. If I wasn't so freak'n picky I'd probably ignore it, but I use landscape a lot and I see it most on the keyboard when in landscape.
Did you ever get your replacement? I have uneven color issues as well, though I'm not sure if its worth the trouble of trying to exchange it.
Irish1842 said:
Did you ever get your replacement? I have uneven color issues as well, though I'm not sure if its worth the trouble of trying to exchange it.
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Curious as well. I'm thinking of re-purchasing now because I think some of the RMA replacement stock was bad batches (at least that's my hope) and the newer ones will have the screen issues sorted.
GOOD LUCK!!! My screen died (just went blank) over a week ago and I still do not have a new device. Moto's RMA and customer service has been the worst ever! I have been told "its shipping tomorrow" for a week now and still no device. The last rep I spoke with said they just do not have replacement devices to ship. I would advise you to keep the yellow screen until Moto has enough stock to ship devices.
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GOOD LUCK!!! My screen died (just went blank) over a week ago and I still do not have a new device. Moto's RMA and customer service has been the worst ever! I have been told "its shipping tomorrow" for a week now and still no device. The last rep I spoke with said they just do not have replacement devices to ship. I would advise you to keep the yellow screen until Moto has enough stock to ship devices.
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I don't currently have one, as I returned the 3rd one I had (1st - bad vibration motor, 2nd/3rd bad uneven color tinting). So I'd have to order anew :/ Guess I should just wait until next year when they've got more stock and fix the screen issues.
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I don't currently have one, as I returned the 3rd one I had (1st - bad vibration motor, 2nd/3rd bad uneven color tinting). So I'd have to order anew :/ Guess I should just wait until next year when they've got more stock and fix the screen issues.
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It's crazy. This is the first of about 20 android devices I have had that I have not done anything to. I had not even unlocked the bootloader yet and the screen craps out. I understand that stuff like this happens but the whole customer service part has been just awful. I was offered a refund but Moto said that would take 4 weeks??? How do you launch a device and not hold back some stock for warranty issues is beyond me? Thankfully I have a M8 GPE to hold me over.
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It's crazy. This is the first of about 20 android devices I have had that I have not done anything to. I had not even unlocked the bootloader yet and the screen craps out. I understand that stuff like this happens but the whole customer service part has been just awful. I was offered a refund but Moto said that would take 4 weeks??? How do you launch a device and not hold back some stock for warranty issues is beyond me? Thankfully I have a M8 GPE to hold me over.
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I think google definitely held back stock for RMAs, as I had no issues getting a 1st and 2nd RMA (for a total of 2 devices after my initial purchase). The problem is they were all manufactured on 10/21 or earlier and had issues so while they had stock to replace them, but were replacing with questionable quality I guess?
I just spoke with customer service last night for RMA. My screen basically looks like a gradient from top left to bottom right. It goes from yellow into pinkish, they basically stated that the devices they are sending out are not technically new or refurbished (at this point). I'm assuming customer returns or defects with packaging. They basically are sending me one, placing a $500 hold and then releasing the hold once they receive my defective unit.
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I just spoke with customer service last night for RMA. My screen basically looks like a gradient from top left to bottom right. It goes from yellow into pinkish, they basically stated that the devices they are sending out are not technically new or refurbished (at this point). I'm assuming customer returns or defects with packaging. They basically are sending me one, placing a $500 hold and then releasing the hold once they receive my defective unit.
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Curious to see how you make out with this. I am still waiting for my RMA'd device since 12/8. Spoke with someone at Moto this morning and they are shipping it today. I have heard that before and I will believe it when I see it. Still no shipping email as of 3:20 eastern time..... Their customer service has been horrible. Hope you have better luck. Keep us posted.
I decided to give it another shot today and ordered a new 32GB CW, hoping I was just unlucky with the 2/3 MB I had that had the pink vs. yellow non-uniform tinting. I know there's no data that indicates the color has anything to do with it, but I'm a superstitious type and hope ordering the white winds up with me getting a good screen haha
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I decided to give it another shot today and ordered a new 32GB CW, hoping I was just unlucky with the 2/3 MB I had that had the pink vs. yellow non-uniform tinting. I know there's no data that indicates the color has anything to do with it, but I'm a superstitious type and hope ordering the white winds up with me getting a good screen haha
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Where did you order from? At this point I would have been better off ordering another and getting a refund on my first one...
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Where did you order from? At this point I would have been better off ordering another and getting a refund on my first one...
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GPS. I already refunded my MB purchase and that and the two (attempted) RMAs show as cancelled on Google Wallet.
FYI, the replacements I got had "earlyish" manufacturing dates, so if the bad screens are a function of the date manufactured, RMA'ing now for this may not be a good idea (at least in my experience for the MB one, no idea about CW).
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GPS. I already refunded my MB purchase and that and the two (attempted) RMAs show as cancelled on Google Wallet.
FYI, the replacements I got had "earlyish" manufacturing dates, so if the bad screens are a function of the date manufactured, RMA'ing now for this may not be a good idea (at least in my experience for the MB one, no idea about CW).
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I will keep you posted if I ever actually get a device. My original one was white. The screen was fine until it stopped working.
jm700wx said:
I will keep you posted if I ever actually get a device. My original one was white. The screen was fine until it stopped working.
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I guess that's one advantage to GPS. My 1st and 2nd RMA were shipped immediately, in one case the same day and I had the replacement the next day.
Well they sent me an ATT phone instead of t-mobile.. BUT the att doesnt have the issue. I'm hoping the correct device I get tomorrow will also be good.
Well my card was charged for $557 so I assume that they will be prompt in sending one out. It's not that big of a deal if it doesn't come in a hurry as long as one gets here without defects. I don't have to send in the defective one until my replacement gets here anyway.
I also have the uneven tint issue. I have been debating about a replacement. Not sure what to do.
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I also have the uneven tint issue. I have been debating about a replacement. Not sure what to do.
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Well it depends on how much it bothers you. After spending $700 on a phone I do plan on getting a phone with a non defective screen. It's getting really annoying watching the colors go from warm to cool as I read from left to right.
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Well it depends on how much it bothers you. After spending $700 on a phone I do plan on getting a phone with a non defective screen. It's getting really annoying watching the colors go from warm to cool as I read from left to right.
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Agreed. I plan on keeping my phone for 2-3 years, so I need to make sure I'm completely happy with it. I just called Google to ask about having mine replaced. They said they're sending out a brand new unit, so we'll see how that one looks. I'll report back when I have it in hand.
My replacement came today. Its looks great. While my last phone had a little pink when at lowest brightness. This one has NONE.