Can I flash LG Optimus 3D roms on my phone? How do I tell if I have a thrill? What's the difference why is there two different sections!? WHATTT????
The Thrill is the AT&T branded version. The only physical difference is a small AT&T logo on the back. The model number is P925, vs the Optimus 3D is P920. You can see the model number in the About in Settings. They run on different bands, so O3D ROMs will not run on the Thrill. If you put a O3D ROM on the Thrill you only get 2G, the "4G" from AT&T does not work.
So they will work but I would get a 2G connection? Could I use their rom manager ways and etc? Is there a way I could just flash the Thrill's radio back onto it after installing an Optimus Rom?
I have not seen anyone pull the radio from the Thrill yet. So far Thriller is the only Thrill based ROM. I think once the GB update comes out we will see GB ROMs. I don't think many devs want to take time tweaking FroYo when GB has been promised by year end (and likely long before that). The O3D was released months ago, the Thrill has been out for less than a month.
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So any idea when Froyo will be released?
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RootTheNoob said:
So any idea when Froyo will be released?
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????? You mean Gingerbread?
Yes haha sorry. T_T.
RootTheNoob said:
Yes haha sorry. T_T.
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Quoting AT&T: "Soon"
"Hi, you can turn your frown upside down soon! No specific dates to share at the moment, but we promise to keep you posted here on the wall with the latest news. In the meantime, check out this link for a little more insight. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20407&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32234&mapcode=mobile-devices"
Hey guys! Was wondering what it would take to port an O3D ROM? Has anyone tried just flashing an O3D ROM on their thrill yet? Or even fastboot flashing just the system.img so as to leave the kernel alone?
You can flash any of the roms just wont get the 4g speeds.
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How do you lose 4G speeds (not sure what you mean by that either... are you saying you only lose access to the HSPA+ network, but keep you access to the HSPA network?)... anyways, how do you lose 4G speeds if these ROMs only update the system, and are not touching the kernel or radio rom? I could see some build prop differences, but wouldn't we just need to change the build prop to the Thrills?
So wait, everything works except the 4G Speeds?
They do change your kernal check out the thriller change log it says he made it so that we can flash back from o3d roms and get our stock kernal back
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pjcforpres said:
How do you lose 4G speeds (not sure what you mean by that either... are you saying you only lose access to the HSPA+ network, but keep you access to the HSPA network?)... anyways, how do you lose 4G speeds if these ROMs only update the system, and are not touching the kernel or radio rom? I could see some build prop differences, but wouldn't we just need to change the build prop to the Thrills?
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The P920 and the P925 have deferent Baseband radio versions, that's why the 4G doesn't work. If someone could take the radio out of the Thrill and make it in to a flashable zip that problem would be solved I'm sure we will see that once GB is released.
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Has anyone tried flashing the stock Thrill kernel over top an O3D ROM? (I am going to try it now myself... well actually I repackaged an O3D with the Thrill kernel).
And what do you mean by you lose 4G? Do you keep 3G (HSPA) and just can't use 4G protocol (HSPA+)? Or do you lose HSPA all together?
AeRo0 said:
The P920 and the P925 have deferent Baseband radio versions, that's why the 4G doesn't work.
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Where do they put the radio ROM? I don't see it in any of the ROMs I have downloaded, I only see the system and the kernel... but I am also looking at this from the eyes of someone that is used to HTCs and their structure.
I don't think the devs have figured it out yet :/
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I will take a look around once I get the source downloaded.
pjcforpres said:
Where do they put the radio ROM? I don't see it in any of the ROMs I have downloaded, I only see the system and the kernel... but I am also looking at this from the eyes of someone that is used to HTCs and their structure.
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All the Roms we have so far with the exception of a couple just modify the /system folder. The radio is seperate from that. What we need is a kernel. Otherwise all these roms are pretty much going to wind up the same but with different themes. That's the reason I don't want to put my Rom out til I can get a bootable kernel put together. Its pretty close to just being Thriller with an HTC sense theme at this point. The differences in the rom itself I don't think warrant a seperate release at this time.
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CallMeAria said:
All the Roms we have so far with the exception of a couple just modify the /system folder. The radio is seperate from that. What we need is a kernel. Otherwise all these roms are pretty much going to wind up the same but with different themes. That's the reason I don't want to put my Rom out til I can get a bootable kernel put together. Its pretty close to just being Thriller with an HTC sense theme at this point. The differences in the rom itself I don't think warrant a seperate release at this time.
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That was my basic view point with any ROMs I made in the past... I wasn't doing anything unique or special, just making it the way I wanted in terms of apps, kernel, etc... so it was one package I flashed instead of 3 or 4.
Looking around, I don't see a lot of people working on the Thrill and was hoping I could get this figured out... I tried just taking the build.prop, ril's, kernel, and .ko's from the thrill and tossing them on a O3D build, but still didn't make a difference for the HSPA+... it makes me suspect there is something I am overlooking (which is very possible, never ported anything, even such a simple port, and I am unaware of any other standard system files that control radio functionality, rest is with the kernel and baseband itself, but both phones have the same baseband version best I can see, so likely kernel, but I am using the thrill kernel!). But at the same time, it is odd to me since I am used to other devices (HTC G2 for example) where a single ROM works on both the G2 and Desire Z...
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That was my basic view point with any ROMs I made in the past... I wasn't doing anything unique or special, just making it the way I wanted in terms of apps, kernel, etc... so it was one package I flashed instead of 3 or 4.
Looking around, I don't see a lot of people working on the Thrill and was hoping I could get this figured out... I tried just taking the build.prop, ril's, kernel, and .ko's from the thrill and tossing them on a O3D build, but still didn't make a difference for the HSPA+... it makes me suspect there is something I am overlooking (which is very possible, never ported anything, even such a simple port, and I am unaware of any other standard system files that control radio functionality, rest is with the kernel and baseband itself, but both phones have the same baseband version best I can see, so likely kernel, but I am using the thrill kernel!). But at the same time, it is odd to me since I am used to other devices (HTC G2 for example) where a single ROM works on both the G2 and Desire Z...
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The only difference in baseband is that the O3D doesn't support the 850 band. There may be a lib in the o3d roms that's not allowing us to use 4g that needs to be replaced from a Thrill rom. I haven't bothered snooping around yet though.
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CallMeAria said:
The only difference in baseband is that the O3D doesn't support the 850 band. There may be a lib in the o3d roms that's not allowing us to use 4g that needs to be replaced from a Thrill rom. I haven't bothered snooping around yet though.
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Yeah, thats what I was trying to drill down was which file was causing it, but I have replaced every file I am aware of in both the lib and bin to no avail, along with the kernel and its corresponding .ko files.
If I go the other way, though, no problem. I can take the framework and apps from an O3D ROM, drop them in a Thrill ROM, and good to go. So there is something hiding that controls which frequencies are used, question is what and where? If you have any idea what file would control that, I can search and test it for you.
So guys will everything work except the 4G speeds?
RootTheNoob said:
So guys will everything work except the 4G speeds?
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Yes, everything works just fine, just no "4G" speeds, regular 3G only (which for me I get essentially the same speeds, except on full bars I am a little slower... talking 6Mbps peak instead of 8Mbps peak).
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Yes, everything works just fine, just no "4G" speeds, regular 3G only (which for me I get essentially the same speeds, except on full bars I am a little slower... talking 6Mbps peak instead of 8Mbps peak).
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So what rom do you have flashed right now? Or what do you recommend would be the best rom to flash on my Thrill from the O3D forums?
RootTheNoob said:
So what rom do you have flashed right now? Or what do you recommend would be the best rom to flash on my Thrill from the O3D forums?
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I am using Thriller, which is a Thrill ROM. I tried Thiaz's and Kings, both were nice... but I prefer the Thriller theme, and the special add on's that those O3D ROMs have we can do manually, like the superchargerv6 script and build.prop tweaks. Sure, we don't have any kernels (yet, they are coming) but modded kernels are not a huge deal without overclocking/undervolting... there are some other tweaks that can be made, help with battery life a little bit and performance a bit, but I am pulling 3000 quadrant scores with superchargerv6 and build.prop tweaks on Thriller, plenty good enough IMHO for speed, just want a little better battery life.
So I can flash a O3D kernel on top of a Thrill ROM, and keep my "4G"... looks like the issue is isolated to the system...
this may be a stupid question, but I've ran into this before. If you flash an o3d ROM and lose your 4G, can you flash back to a thrill ROM and get your 4G back? I've had previous phones that once you changed your radio, sometimes you couldn't get it back.
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I was reading somewhere sometime ago that flashing ROMs on the thrill 3D was wiping the 4g baseband (or something like that), and after that you could never get on 4g again. Is this true?
Would the O3D Rome have the 4G band in them? And above all else do the roms for O3D (stock or custom) have CID in them?
I ask because AT&T is willing to exchange my thrill for another phone due to my concerns of CID. I however don't want an sgsII. I like my Thrill... I've flashed my cappy many times so I'm not ignorant, but I'm worried of loosing 4g.
I flashed Doomed for thrill on mine, and all is working GREAT!
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So now that AT&T FINALLY released gingerbread, is it worth the update? I've been running V20C for a while now and I think it's great. After reading a couple of threads, no one really addressed if the update is better or not and I've also seen people mention that they've been having ghost call issues and what not.
Thanks in advance!
Is it worth it???? Looking at it no, not if you are trying to gain something in 20P that 20c doesn't give you unless you want the ATT APNs and their custom applications.
I thought it had fixed my ghost calls but after 3 days I found I had one.
Maybe I missed it but what is the difference between V20c and V20p?
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Mainly service provider custom software and apns.
There are meant to be some fixes in V20P but I haven't heard what they are.
V20P has a slighly different baseband where some customs roms will not give you a signal.
In short V20C putout by Rogers, V20P is put out by ATT
Also AT&T changed the way Bluetooth is toggled, so many ROMs that support V20P will have problems turning it on.
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johnw230873 said:
Mainly service provider custom software and apns.
There are meant to be some fixes in V20P but I haven't heard what they are.
V20P has a slighly different baseband where some customs roms will not give you a signal.
In short V20C putout by Rogers, V20P is put out by ATT
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Lately I've been dealing with some ghost calls on V20C with AT&T so would there be less if I used V20P?
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Also AT&T changed the way Bluetooth is toggled, so many ROMs that support V20P will have problems turning it on.
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Does your rom work fine with that in your 3.1 update?
I see there are multiple versions of the Thrill. Mine isnt really a 4G (at least not LTE). Mine is a LG-P925. Will I be able to use the ROMS in the dev section of this forum?
Just want to make 100% sure I dont mess up my phone.
Thanks!
opticalc said:
I see there are multiple versions of the Thrill. Mine isnt really a 4G (at least not LTE). Mine is a LG-P925. Will I be able to use the ROMS in the dev section of this forum?
Just want to make 100% sure I dont mess up my phone.
Thanks!
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lg-p925 is the LG Thrill 4g, same phone it is compatible with this forum and most Optimus 3d roms.
whycali said:
lg-p925 is the LG Thrill 4g, same phone it is compatible with this forum and most Optimus 3d roms.
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All O3D roms.
Its the same phone.
Most devs on the O3D forum include att apns in their ROMs so its really effortless to install. I would even recommend flashing the V21E kdz rom. This baseband fixed the ghost call issue that still plagues ATT customers today.
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