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cyanogen mod

Im very new to rooting and rom switching so please go easy
I just tried the cyanogen mod 6 for my nexus 1 and i have a few questions about it.
First, i cant really see anything new accept a few things in the cyanogen menu under "settings". Second, i cant see a speed increase either. Stock is actually working faster!
After all the amazing stuff i keep hearing about cyanogen, i just wanna know, what is it about this one (cm6) that im missing??? I just wanna appreciate it like everyone else

I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
Personally i want a ROM that is more closer to stock as possible, and i really have no need for certain tweaks really. I used the 5.0.8 N1 quite abit before i went over to Froyo. It was allright for me but later on i really like stock based ROM's.

i agree. its seems as though the stock roms work best with froyo (for now anyway) i have been using a rom called "frf_blackbar_v3_signed" and its working great.
Since im new to this stuff (coming from an iphone!) i just figured i was missing out on something right under my eyes! I know its a new rom and it will get better too.

Have faith and give CM some time
They've been working on it for two weeks and its only their first official froyo release(RC1). Im sure things will pick up and get more exciting soon.
I also tested the performance of stock vs cm, and they didn't differ by that much...

Cyanogen has tons of additional features. What I recommended you do is look at his changelog.
He has listed all the new goodies.
Personally I like the kernal which allows overclocking, the music app which has support for flac right out the box, and the renderer which switches the screen color to save you battery.

I will pay attention to Cyanogen ROM for sure..

yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)

Sindroid said:
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
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Exact same here. Went from CM6 to Geo411m's ROM yesterday. Its fast, I know what I have, and battery life is good. Tried LeoFroYo this morning but there was just too much there for what I need. A quick Nandroid restore to Geo411m and that's where I'm staying for now
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blunted09 said:
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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kernel is the guts of your system
online kitchen is where users can create their own roms
new radios add new features that some roms depend on
i don't recommend you messing with any of these things until you do a lot of reading

from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?

not necesarily, i nandroid before i do any mods to my system just in case i trash it i can boot it right back up just like it was 5 mins prior

If you truly brick your phone, you won't be able to boot into recovery to restore. You do a nandroid once you have your rom setup the way you want, so when you restore you go back to that point. Cyanogen is one of the best, if not the best. The man went through it with Google, just to bless us with his gift, show some RESPECT!!!!! I just flashed his latest & greatest, and I love it. Although im not a fan of white status bar. I like nothing stock, but I flashed black status bar, and pushed black goggle search box, and rm the apps I didn't want, like twitter and gmail. It's a keeper, and will only get better.The more ability to customize the better. That's why I root in the first place. Options, options, options, I love it.
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blunted09 said:
from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
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You don't brick your phone by flashing a new ROM that doesn't contain radio. You don't brick your phone with almost anything that you do, in the worst case - you're left with a phone that doesn't load OS and needs wipe+reflash, and you lose all your settings and data.
But:
You DO brick your phone by flashing the wrong radio / interrupting radio flash before it finishes.
As with the rest of your questions: I suggest you use this forum and Google and read a lot. That would answer your questions.
Also, I was a user of CyanogenMod on 2.1, kept it until LeoFroyo hit 1.2-beta, flashed, liked, and now I'm with Enomther, who has a fast, stable ROM with most of the features Cyanogen has, and it covers everything I want/need. I'll wait for CyanogenMod to integrate Apps2SDExt into framework, and then compare it again.

[Q] BEST ROM with working FLASH PLAYER on cdma hero

Hey guys I'm a noob and sprint decided to give me a hero do to my defective noment I took it over the intercept because of the support here on XDA and I've been lookin around and I like but my question remains what's the best rom for the cdma hero that will still allow the flasplayer to work any ideas or ways to keep makin it work. THANX

Unfortunately, full flash support can not be achieved. There's a light version out there, but I don't know how well it works.

charlie95113 said:
Hey guys I'm a noob and sprint decided to give me a hero do to my defective noment I took it over the intercept because of the support here on XDA and I've been lookin around and I like but my question remains what's the best rom for the cdma hero that will still allow the flasplayer to work any ideas or ways to keep makin it work. THANX
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I believe Nfinite's Roms have Flash Lite, and then using a browser like Skyfire gives additional flash support as it deals with it server side.
Use Nfinites rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849024 there and then do a search for Zen's Any Kernal with no Perflock. It makes it an extremely snappy Sense Rom. Only Sense has the Flash working, none of the AOSP roms do I believe.
Only downside is Nfinite is on Hiatus due to some personal stuff but he has popped back in and said he isn't gone, just dealing with it and plans to update again soon.

my replyo
ok thanx so fo example even I port the flash light apk (htc flash player) can I at least use that on the aosp rom or the cm 6 or does they need the sense to even aollow it to work ? I just want to be ready to root asap when the hero arrives tomorow

You cannot use those functions in an AOSP rom, has to be with sense.

Ok one last thing before I do this once I get my recovery going and I'm rooted of course I do a data wipe then apply a zip (rom) file correct and if I want to try other roms repeat the proscces. Right just want to make sure. That's how I would do it on my moment

charlie95113 said:
Ok one last thing before I do this once I get my recovery going and I'm rooted of course I do a data wipe then apply a zip (rom) file correct and if I want to try other roms repeat the proscces. Right just want to make sure. That's how I would do it on my moment
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Yes you would go to recovery, do a factory reset, wipe Dalvik, Cache, etc and then you can flash the new zip for the rom you wish to try.

Most roms will have a sort of guide or instructions, some have things specific to the rom being flashed, so make sure and read the full post, and maybe browse the thread for tidbits that users have had to say about the rom.
Sent from my Dark Horse CM6 Hero using XDA app.

[Q] AT&T ROM w/o bloatware

Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.

mbudden said:
Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.
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Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?

Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955

Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.

Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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Correct. I'd rather not build off of the Stock 2.2 ROM since from reading everyone's thoughts about it. It's crap.
low99 said:
Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
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Yeah, I've looked at that ROM. But it looks like he's added things to it... I might tear his down and remove the things that aren't wanted... Making ROMs seemed to be much easier back in the WM days. Made a couple stripped down carrier ones for myself.
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.
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Correct. Like I posted above, head into the Captivate General sub-forum and see how many were complaining it wasn't actually a "upgrade".

There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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zelendel said:
There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...

mbudden said:
Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...
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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.

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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.
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Doing a quick look around, it does seem that most of the kernels are for the 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs. For example SpeedMod kernel.
So I may need to find the stock 2.2 files and go from there. It doesn't seem as hard as I thought it was going to be, but that's just from doing some quick searching. Do you happen to know the Baseband Version of the latest firmware? If not, then I'll end up finding it and hopefully be able to find it's files online.

mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.

newter55 said:
mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.
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Yeah, I found the I897UCKB1 .tar file and was taking a peak inside. But interesting. I was looking to remove some of the other things that was added in the Continuum ROM, but the darn .apk's aren't all obviously named. I'll give a look at the Cognition though. Not really into the whole themes and this and that. I like stream lined ROM's. Nothing fancy.
Thanks for that thread though, maybe I should have taken a gander at the I9000 subforums too. lol. Now to figure out how to zip everything back into a .tar file.

Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.

joshua43214 said:
Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.
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The thing is, I just installed Continuum. I just don't like it. I do admit that it is fast. I like the stock icons and I like the stock the stock look and feel. Not to mention, some of the installed stuff I didn't care for. Also I don't need extra lock screens, or colored menus.
But anyways, got the factoryfs.rfs file apart. So basically that's the system folder like it would be in a custom ROM. Now to find out how to Deodex these .apk/.odex files.

Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.

snapplefish said:
Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.
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What's wrong with learning the hard way? That's the easy way out.
Doing it my way will help me understand Android.
Like I said, I used to build my own custom Windows Mobile ROMs for myself. Why not learn how to build my own custom Android ROMs?
If any ROM makers want to share some advice, do so.

Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.

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Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.
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His tutorial is what I'm following as we speak. A lot of the stuff he mentions isn't clearly defined though. So Google has been helpful with that. For example, he doesn't talk about how to deodex the apk/jar/odex files. But that's alright, nothing a little Googling won't fix. Will be also throwing the fixes that have been made in. A lot of reading lol.
But I am, such a great device. Battery life isn't as great as my Blackberry. But hey, it's not that much of a hassle.

Alright, I got most if it down. But when I go to load it via clockwork recovery. I get this "E:can't symlink /system/bin/cat" Any assistance?

I guess I took the "easy" way out.
I have AT&T 2.2 (WAY better than 2.1)
Root
removed unwanted bloat with TiBackup
installed SuperCurio's KB1 + Voodoo KB1 Kernel
This let me have some of the features of a custom ROM that I wanted without having to backup and restore all my apps/etc.

By no means do I have anything against that. It's just I'd rather learn things myself. So if it came time for me to build my own ROM to my liking. I have the know how.

[Q] Registering custom flashed Hero on Sprint Network

I recently upgraded my phone and gave my trusty Hero to an out of town girlfriend. She went to sprint today to have it activated and was unable to get it done. She tells me they attempted to register it on the network but were unable to do so. They say this is because it is rooted and flashed with a custom Rom.
It has the July 08 ASOP rom by jaybob. If anyone can give me any help, I'd be greatly appreciated. I'm wondering if I need to talk her through the process of returning to stock.
Thanks in advance

You need a sense based rom I'm pretty sure.
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If you want her to have a completely stock, unrooted phone, you need to "ruu" it. You will find the ruu file and instructions in the development section.
Other than that, you can flash any sense-based rom (infinite fx's, liquid's), and that will let you activate it also.
If she will be taking it into the sprint store, I recommend ruu, tho.
nandroids are for
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ch1naski said:
If you want her to have a completely stock, unrooted phone, you need to "ruu" it. You will find the ruu file and instructions in the development section.
Other than that, you can flash any sense-based rom (infinite fx's, liquid's), and that will let you activate it also.
If she will be taking it into the sprint store, I recommend ruu, tho.
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I had no idea that you needed a sense based rom. I'll talk her through flashing it. Quick related question. I am using clockwork recovery. I am under the impression I may not be able to properly flash a sense based rom with this. Or am I absolutely wrong.
Thanks,
You guys are saviors.

they need epst in the dialer and diag witch is only in stock sense roms.

yournamehere484 said:
I had no idea that you needed a sense based rom. I'll talk her through flashing it. Quick related question. I am using clockwork recovery. I am under the impression I may not be able to properly flash a sense based rom with this. Or am I absolutely wrong.
Thanks,
You guys are saviors.
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You can flash a sense rom with cwm. I flash my nandroid backup of stock sense with it all the time.
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yournamehere484 said:
I had no idea that you needed a sense based rom. I'll talk her through flashing it. Quick related question. I am using clockwork recovery. I am under the impression I may not be able to properly flash a sense based rom with this. Or am I absolutely wrong.
Thanks,
You guys are saviors.
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I may be Wrong but you should be able to Activate it over the phone... I think Sprints number is 1-800-639-6111! Also if I were you I'd probably do what the others Advised and Flash a Sense based Rom, Try LiquidSense, or the Fresh Roms are Also pretty Good!
Good Luck!

PMGRANDS said:
I may be Wrong but you should be able to Activate it over the phone... I think Sprints number is 1-800-639-6111! Also if I were you I'd probably do what the others Advised and Flash a Sense based Rom, Try LiquidSense, or the Fresh Roms are Also pretty Good!
Good Luck!
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You MUST have a sense rom to activate over the phone.
nandroids are for
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ch1naski said:
You MUST have a sense rom to activate over the phone.
nandroids are for
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Yes, and it will work. I've done it myself.
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Android: It will make you a sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me.

user7618 said:
Yes, and it will work. I've done it myself.
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I figured it would, but wasn't Positive! Thanx for Confirming!

Boot up to 5 ROMs Instantly

This looks amazing
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager&feature=search_result
Don't forget to hit the Thanks button!

wow that looks too good to be true...

I would like to hear some personal experiences on here. Anyone?
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It is a really cool App, installing the roms takes some time, but switching between them is quick and easy.
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OMFGodddddd!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!! This is like legalizing drugs for flasher addicts!!

EDIT: bought it, and playing with it right now
edit: I like it alot, set the newer cm7 as my phone rom, and installed vicious miui in slot 1 just to play around with, its pretty fun, this makes me a flash a holic x5 or is that 4

Is this a must?

really cool app but this thread belongs in the themes & apps section

Playing around with this now, thx for the post. Never would have thought this would have been remotely possible ..therefore I never looked for anything like it via market lol.

cool app, but, how does it work?
is it automating the flashing process?
is it changing the boot.ini to make my phone look for the other os install on the sd card?
am I flashing like mad going in between roms?
I find these questions need to be answered first before I install this.
the way I understand it is
1.main rom i flashed on my phone internal memory+(kernel)
(on SD)
{
rom2+(kernel)
rom3+(kernel)
rom4+(kernel)
rom5+(kernel)
}
and the app works by flashing an update.zip that changes where the phone looks to boot.
Am I correct in my understanding?
EDIT:
Support thread
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ndroids-first-multi-booter-application-2.html
Useful answers
1. Will this also work if you have a froyo rom and gb rom that you are switching between?
Yes u can install whatever roms u want to whatever slots gb roms froyo roms whatever makes u happy they're all completely separate it's like having 5 different phones basically
**** remember your radios folks we have mr1 and mr2 some roms need separate radios so if you use the app and swap, you wont have any data untill you flash a new one through hboot.
2. Are you saying that when you flash between roms, the app will auto wipe data, cache and dalvik?
The app creates imgs into the slots when u install a fresh rom to a slot u should check all the check boxes to wipe data cache and system but it doesn't wipe the data cache and system on ur phone just the slots data cache and system the app doesn't touch any of ur data on ur phone just makes it's own in the sdcard
3. Let's say I have Chevy's Froyo rom and his SS GB rom on there. If I flash from GB to froyo, then back to GB. Will I have to restore apps?
No each slot is saved all of it's data stays there nothing is ever wiped again just like having five phones basically all of ur slots are completely separate all of ur data is separate and saved nothing is lost

it aint workin right for me. I tried doing an install from the sdcard and it is telling me i dont have enough space. but i have 1.37 gb free!

This app is kick a**! I know one of the devs that made this app back from my D1 days (he was co-creator of one of the best D1 ROM's IMO) and he is an amazing dev! I was lucky enough to test this app and it is def worth the $$ if you're a person that can't decide on 1 ROM or you just like to try all the latest and greatest ROM's that drop.
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I just downloaded this, can't wait to set it up and try it, maybe ill give some aosp roms a try.
Thank you!
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So my question is...does it run the ROM from the SD card?
If so...how is the speed/lag once the ROM is booted up?
I like the idea of having different ROMs to test, but I'm wondering how much time you'd be saving if it takes that long to install a ROM initially.
A lot of these Devs have nightlys or almost nightlys....
Very interesting...

looks pretty retarded to me... right up there with rom manager. i cant wait to see how it effs things up for some beginner noobie
not all roms work,you may get FCs during setup... yeah looks pretty amazing.
think ill stick to manually wiping and restoring my nandroids after i get them set up.

dajogejr said:
So my question is...does it run the ROM from the SD card?
If so...how is the speed/lag once the ROM is booted up?
I like the idea of having different ROMs to test, but I'm wondering how much time you'd be saving if it takes that long to install a ROM initially.
A lot of these Devs have nightlys or almost nightlys....
Very interesting...
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That's what has kept me from purchasing it. It's been in the market for a few days now but if the rom runs off the sdcard it could cause issues.

YankInDaSouth said:
This app is kick a**! I know one of the devs that made this app back from my D1 days (he was co-creator of one of the best D1 ROM's IMO) and he is an amazing dev! I was lucky enough to test this app and it is def worth the $$ if you're a person that can't decide on 1 ROM or you just like to try all the latest and greatest ROM's that drop.
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Was it one of the devs from Sourcery rom? That was the best rom IMO so that's why I ask.
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scotty1223 said:
looks pretty retarded to me... right up there with rom manager. i cant wait to see how it effs things up for some beginner noobie
not all roms work,you may get FCs during setup... yeah looks pretty amazing.
think ill stick to manually wiping and restoring my nandroids after i get them set up.
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That leads to my question. Isn't this basically like restoring a nand backup? Maybe this app makes it easier? IDK. I guess it's worth checking out.
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On initial setup do you need to reinstall your current rom?
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Yes, it runs from the sdcard. Lag is minimal if you let the kernel settle when you boot one up. On my thunderbolt I don't really notice any lag and i don't even overclock.
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