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[Q] Problem with all apps connected to the internet.

I been using Advanced Task Manager 4.1 before I updated to froyo and it killed all my unwanted apps very well. All the roms I tryed on 2.2 do this: they leave the apps connected to the internet open. It just wastes my battery. I tryed a bunch of other task killers and none of them work, the apps still stay open. I need to kill the apps untill the next time I open them. Anyone know a way to do that on 2.2 or what my prolem is?

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I edited my post, any way you or someone else can help

artii829 said:
I been using Advanced Task Manager 4.1 before I updated to froyo and it killed all my unwanted apps very well. All the roms I tryed on 2.2 do this: they leave the apps connected to the internet open. It just wastes my battery. I tryed a bunch of other task killers and none of them work, the apps still stay open. I need to kill the apps untill the next time I open them. Anyone know a way to do that on 2.2 or what my prolem is?
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For one thing you might want to download DroidWall and disable internet access to all unwanted apps. It is like Firewall for your android.
Also try Taskiller. I m using it and it kills apps and never let them start until screen turns on again.
-Sekhar

See thats the thing, I want them to be off untill I turn them on myself. I think I'll re-download DroidWall (I have known about it) and all task killers do the same thing I guess, which is kill the apps untill the next time you turn on your screen =/

Could you give us an example of these apps that are "staying connected" and some indication of what you're testing to know that they are staying connected?

Apps like: Bloo (Facebook), Hi IM, Android Market, Weather Bug, & others that dont use internet like Astrid Tasks, Startup Cleaner Pro, Titanium Backup, TeslaLED & toggle apps.
I just want them closed when I kill them. Right now I have a shortcut to managing apps so I click on the running tab and manually force close them but thats a pain.
INDICATION: killing weather bug and the notification with the temperature stays.
After killing the apps I have listed they pop up again in the task manager 30 seconds later.

task killers?

can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!

Do not use autokiller. I can't remember what problem it causes but it does indeed cause a problem on all galaxy phones. Or at laast my fascinate
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You shouldn't need one from all I've read about it.
but I use system panel to kill an app here and there.
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Don't bother using a task killer. I used Advance Task Killer for the last two weeks but it probably hampered things more than it helped. Your phone will NOT slow down to a crawl. Most custom ROMs use good minfree settings that'll keep your phone snappy.
Just uninstall your task killer, or if you want to use it, turn off autostart, turn off autokill, and only use it for pesky apps that won't die.

toawkanavngthded said:
can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
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I was using ATK and could not verify any benefit. I read the following article and gained some more understanding. I have been running without a Task Killer since and I see no loss in performance or battery life. I could say I have less FCs and more reliability with syncing email.
Read This: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

i have been getting random shutdown these few days (started like 3 days ago), about 1 shutdown per day. i'm not sure if it' the stock task manager, dolphin browser beta 4.0, or widget locker 1.2.7 causing it. i already removed stock task manager and downgraded widget locker to 1.2.4 to see what happens.

Task killers aren't generally needed on android. If its battery life you want then for one try not to compulsively look at your phone preventing the cpu from idling and screen from turning off. Get juice defender. It turns off data unless it is needed. Most apps don't use resorces when the phone is asleep unless they are designed to, like file sharing programs or apps that sync data in the background but there are also bad apps. In froyo Use the built in task manager (long prsss on home) to see what's running. If you havent used something in a while and don't need the process active then close it.
If it is performance you want then no task manager will help. You need to alter the minfree setting which manages memory and how apps use it. I use the one click lag fix app to do that. Other apps I used caused problems. I set the minfree to moderate. Its more agressive than stock but doesn't kill processes you might want running. Anything more agressive than that kills allshare while im streaming movies but there is a performance increase when set to optimal or strict however it is slight.
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Xoom task killer by adam Lange

I no most people think that you don't need a task killer on the xoom but I have to disagree my tab lags sometimes when I have to much open and so far with this task killer I have not nearly had any lag. There is only one thing I do not like about it. I wish you could kill the task killer app after your done killing the other apps but when you try to kill it all that happens is you stay in the app. It is made just for the xoom so it is a 3.0 app and it only cost 99 cents and has no ads and the dev says he will update it.
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Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.

B Dizzle said:
Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.
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I used it on xoom before it is better in ways but u can't close everything in it I doesn't let u close setting running services etc.. It does work well but I wanna b able to close everything plus if u do leave them open the xoom one is much smaller file

I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.

ZanshinG1 said:
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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Well put some people just don't understand

I had a big post about this a while back, people still dont get it. When my Girlfriend bought her Epic the guy at sprint put ATK on it. I removed it as soon as she showed me.

my sister in-law has the LG Ally and it sucks ass and shes been having issues with it and the people at verizon tell her she just needs to use her task killer more

ZanshinG1 said:
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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If you need to close an app because it hangs, use the built in task killer.
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System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.

mobius999 said:
System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.
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Yea system panel is good I love how it shows you what's actually killing the battery unlike the idiots using atk thinkingbtheyre saving battery

Kill apps from ram for good

I have a few apps running in the background all the time. Facebook and blood and glory mainly. Is there a way to delete them for good? On Facebook I set it that no notifications and never refresh, and its still using up 12mb. Same with blood and glory. Any way to kill them for good? Is there an app maybe? Thanks.

Well, mainly in android apps have 4 components.
Two of those are Activities and Services.
The activities have UI, you can activate and use it. The services doesn't have UI since they are hidden. You can't Activate them manually and their purpse is to open the app fast. Deleting the app is the best way you can use a task manager to close them.
Advanced Task Killer, for example, has the ability to set timer for RAM clearing, you can set it to whenever you lock your screen.
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Another way for ram.
I think of the amount of memory (ram) have effected to play game or run any application smoothly.
So If you use kernel Semaphore 2.7.4(GB) or 1.2.0 (ICS) there are choices for big memory to run application smoothly.

I want to kill an app like Facebook, and then I don't want it to run in the background after I close the app. When I kill the process , after aboit 10 seconds it goes on again!

Anyone!?

Anyone 2x?

use advanced task manager.or delete the facebook app and install fbm.it does not run in the background

I've found an useful article about Task killer apps:
Being a new member, I cannot post outside link.
Search for: Task killer apps What they do, and why you shouldn't use them ->

Autostarts
There is an app on android market called Autostarts, it's an amazing app i've used it for over a year now and never had any problems. what it does it stops apps like facebook from starting up automaticly and keeps the app fully closed until you choose to launch it. Same goes for any other app which you choose to disable from auto-starting by itself. This is why Autostarts is so much better than say a normal task killer because apps closed by task killers restart themselves a few minutes later so your just running round in circles trying to keep the app closed probably eating up more battery trying to close it every 5 minutes than if you just left the app alone, where as with autostarts you dissable the app once then thats it it wont start until you tell it to, perfect!

Autostart sounds quite good
I'd also recommend using titanium backup to freeze the app, unfreeze when you want it and then freeze when you dont.
Autostart probably sounds like the easier option, no need to keep freezing and unfreezing, but knowing about titanium backup and freezing apps doesn't hurt

[Q] Task Manager Question

Hi Peoples
This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid

weezlerox said:
Hi Peoples
This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid
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I was a bit intrested in memory cleaners/task killers but as much as I know know now Android has built-in memory mechanisms/algorithms which are managing ram to get the best results. If you use any external app you're just slowing down your phone. There is ony one app which can help you a bit to get more hours in standby - greenify, it suspends selected apps on background so it won't use cpu or wifi. When you run them, they run as usual, just not at background after close (do not use it on messangers, you won't get messages after greenifying it).
Next thing - no frills cpu - yes, this can help a bit too, for example there are some battery saving governors or you can underclock cpu (I haven't had lags on 1300 Mhz)
Also I get more hours on battery from custom roms - KitKat came with big improvements here. You can always go back if you don't like it, just do a backup in recovery.

yes but....
I already use greenify and generally freeze apps that I am not using but don't necessarily want to uninstall
I agree totally about the way android works with memory hence my comment in the OP lol.
Anybody else have any advice that may answer my question about the stock Task Manager?