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[Q] Change to MIUI or not?

Hi guys,
i dont really find any related threads..
so i wanna ask you all whether it's better to stay on darky's rom
or change to MIUI?
and how serious is the battery drain problem? does it matter?
how long does the battery last?

MIUI is awesome, i never looked into it at first but im glad i did. I have been on it for weeks and i aint going elsewhere.
Battery is normal. 1-2 days at best.
Also. New updates every friday.
Highly customisable. You wil be amazed at it.
Try it and see. You can always flash back if you dont like it. But i know u will
Sent from Miui powered SGS

I agree, I love this ROM, totally different to any other ROM you will have tried, it's like having a new phone. If you can flash your phone successfully and iron out some other niggles you'll get trying to update, you won't go back to another rom again

id say looks great but finding so many many annoying things - though im new today so if i missed something or a fix i apologise way in advance 690odd pages is too much to sift through
keyboard has no working dictionary
auto rotate is bust
themes doesnt seem to change all the time correctly
auto brightness seems to not work too
and keep getting FC now and then in settings
Signal keeps switching off too(only fix is lock/unlock)
besides this and as i say totally new today n maybe i screwed up or missed a fix. its a great looking rom. feels nice

Their are other roms
Rom Kitchen
Look In Developers section .
Darkys is a rom not the holy grail of rom development suggest you try others you can always go back.
jje

miui 1.4.15 works awesome with zachs kernel!
now just wait for the rc5b then it will be even better

ninja.tiger26 said:
id say looks great but finding so many many annoying things - though im new today so if i missed something or a fix i apologise way in advance 690odd pages is too much to sift through
keyboard has no working dictionary
auto rotate is bust
themes doesnt seem to change all the time correctly
auto brightness seems to not work too
and keep getting FC now and then in settings
Signal keeps switching off too(only fix is lock/unlock)
besides this and as i say totally new today n maybe i screwed up or missed a fix. its a great looking rom. feels nice
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Keyboard will be fixed today. download keyboard from market temporarily
auto rotate is fine for many of us, depends on your kernel
majority of themes work perfect, very few of the 1000's of themes dont work 100%
auto brightness, again works well for many of us, check it under the settings menu.
FC in settings is due to the theme being used. as mentioned above
signal issue.... is lock/unlock so hard work ???
anyway rc5b will be released soon and im pretty sure all the above will be fixed. im sure you can appreciate the hard work taken to get this ROM almost perfect. there is no guide for this ROM, as there is for samsung ROMs.

looks like you all appreciate the miui rom
thats good.. i first thought that the battery drain would be a problem, but atm
my darky roms sucks more and i can run it only for one day
what major changes will come with rc5b? i thought of changing to rc5?
does anyone use the miui version? or is everyone on xda version?

irieme said:
looks like you all appreciate the miui rom
thats good.. i first thought that the battery drain would be a problem, but atm
my darky roms sucks more and i can run it only for one day
what major changes will come with rc5b? i thought of changing to rc5?
does anyone use the miui version? or is everyone on xda version?
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well i use the xda version i think - the xda page directs me to 'sourceforge'
as the team translate it to english (its originally chinese)
RC5B will just fix a few bugs that is in the RC5.
you can flash to whichever version you want, just follow the steps carefully.

irieme said:
looks like you all appreciate the miui rom
thats good.. i first thought that the battery drain would be a problem, but atm
my darky roms sucks more and i can run it only for one day
what major changes will come with rc5b? i thought of changing to rc5?
does anyone use the miui version? or is everyone on xda version?
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Buddy, try SpeedMod Kernel with DarkyROM. Trust me, you won't go back.
Even with 3G, Sync, Music & video playbacks, my I9000 has about 60% battery at the end of the day.
& of course, benchmark is about 1.9 to 2k ;-)

MIUI always gave me trouble with constant FCs.I've tried varius versions and not even one was stable.This is the most annoying thing in MIUI there is no stable version,only unstable roms full of regressions.I always end up in stock roms
I should point out that i am an avid flasher and i have the phone for over a year so i know exactly what i am talking about.

I've tried most of miui roms and I won't be going back anytime soon.
1) Theme app not working consistently. Sometimes it hangs and doesnt load anything, other times it just FC's
3) Battery, whatever they say is rank compared to a Samsung rom
4) Laggy browsers. This is was got me really REALLY frustrated.
5) No radio
6) Updated every Friday my arse. Only reason they are updated all the time is because there is so many bugs and ALWAYS something not working lol
7) The whole modification thing is a bit of a fallacy if you ask me. There's only so much you can change. Icons and wallpapers basically and most that are available are crap or just a mashup of other themes mixed with different wallpapers.
I could go on all day
I'm much happier on Samsung based roms.
They work.
You can theme them
Battery is lots better

[Q] what is better MIUI -OR- Simply Honey?

(since my last thread has been deleted, I will ask again
EDIT: AND Cyanogen Mod 7 ROM DOES IT HAS BETTER CAPABILITIES??
I wanna know which rom has better capabilities simply honey or miui
(Capabilities=
which rom is faster(miui or SH) or they have +- the same speed?
which rom is stabler? or they are the same..
which rom has more and better features or they have the same?
this things..)
thanks for helping
NOTE- I have already read both SH's and MIUI's threads
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you

simple honey
its perfect
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

i would go to simply honey it's simpler and really good. im not on simply honey but looking at the specs of the rom it seems really good. however front camera doesnt work as it says on the ROM and you need to reflash another kernel!
another thing is they have took out apps that came in with SGS from the stock ROM some of it i find very useful. i think the speed of both ROM is quite the same ^_^.

thanks !! waiting for more people---and which rom offers more features? SH or miui?
(and I have SH 3.2 dont wanna update it to3.5 because there are problems with 3.5)

There are no problems at all with 3.5....you're getting crazy man....you're paranoic!
Try and judge!!!
Sent from my SGS with Simply 3.5 Revolution ROM

simone201--i've already tried..
there might be problems!! now I have simply honey 3.2 so I dont want to upgrade due to all the problems in 3.3 . (and as I said- 3.5might include some problems too)
p.s- why am I getting crazy ? lol? it seems you are..
waiting for more people and help please..

please help me guys.. need more comments

FFS.....
Do your parents still cut the crust off your sandwiches for you.
Just flash the rom and find out for yourself. If you don't like it... Move on to the next.

WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!

darixtorento said:
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
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Please, stop bumping this thread and making new ones!
This is terrible, you cant compare those 2 roms.
And you said you've tested them both, so why not use that one that's better?

if its hard to understand, the word "them" means to simply honey 3.2 and 3.5 !!!
of course I can compare ONLY about the CAPABILITIES
(about how the room feels/looks/ beutiful or not-- all this things of course, I will decide by myself and im NOT asking for that)
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you

people please help me.. !

Dude, both are awesome. But you can not compare the two ROMs! Simply Honey is 2.3.3 based and MIUI is 2.3.4 based!
The difference in features are very minor, maybe a little here and there. But basically both are equally good ROMs. Try it out for yourself and see which one you like!

I'm currently running MIUI MCGv3 which is fantastic but it is not quite as complete as the stock custom roms like Juwe's or Simply Honey, two of the biggest let downs being the lack of an FM Radio and choppy MKV playback. But in saying that it is stunning visually and has a lot of cool unique features. I haven't used Simply Honey only Juwe's so this could be a little biased. All in all you'll have to try them out yourself, different rom's for different people and different needs.

vijaykanth--- thanks god that's what I want to know -- "The difference in features are very minor" omg thanks finally someone understands!! well I hope your right..
Shrapnel2--- thanks you very much!
still need more people and comments
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)

darixtorento said:
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
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The main reason I moved to MIUI from Juwe's is that I was getting bored of the same old interface even with changing round png's in the framework and modifying bits and pieces- everything still looked bland to me. Speedwise I think that if you compared the two(Juwe's or Simply Honey on ext4) you would find them to be fairly close, I think lists tend to load faster on MIUI but it has been a while. Stability is fairly good but not 100% of the time, eg before settings Force closed on me, no biggie though as I had apps fc on Samsung GB roms too. Another thing to note is battery isn't the best on MIUI, you'll easily get a day under average use but don't expect three day marathons like some Samsung roms do. So good luck on picking!

each rom is better if the person likes it .I use miui but before that i used simply honey and it was good but i like miui better .It has lots of new features

I installed Simply Honey 3.5 the day it was released, I was previously using Darky's Rom v10 and I was very happy with the change. SH is visually beautiful, I installed Dark Core kernal after installing it to fix the bluetooth issues with CF-Root.
The front camera is still displayed sideways but thats no concern to me since I barely use it anyway. Love the new lockscreens, the market is a bit odd to look at but it doesn't bug me too much (if it does there's plenty of themes out there). After flashing the SGS2 email apk I was very pleased with my phone. It's been a lot more snappier than Darky's and haven't noticed any lag at all..
I'd take Simone's advice and install SH 3.5, you wont be dissapointed =)

Just try both for a full day - you can revert to your previous one anytime with a nandroid backup.

as far as I've understood -after restoring applications, the andorid market and applanet might not recognize them as 'installed applications'. then, I will not be able to update my restored applications
and thanks everyone!!! waiting for more comments..

Need a Better ROM Than CM

I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.

You can use MIUI ROM

Enomther's
It's not gingerbread but is by far the most stable and the fastest.

There's many ROM on this forum, you are free to use which ever make you happy.
CM7 has been great for me since the first nightly.

Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.

Quantumstate said:
I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
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I'd never be able to go stock after i used CM for the first time . It might have some flaws but its the best there is & has no alternative .

Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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Yes, MIUIMOD from Rod
i had use MIUI Stock 4 months ago, then i use CM 7 nightly build, and now, i comeback MIUI with MIUIMOD ROM, after a week use, with some tutorial, i think its best for my phone at the moment, hehe... some user dont want use MIUI, because it like as iOS but i dont care, it gives me comfort & i use it...
With MIUIMOD, you will have more than free Internal memory and RAM memory...
anyway, i saw dont more difference between the CM7 and MIUI, you can choice

With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.

MIUI is pretty good

Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.

Quantumstate said:
With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
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Goto Rod's thread i will help you, if i can :d
Sent from my MIUIMOD using XDA Premium App

You should definitely go for QND MIUI
Used it from the beginning and I'm loving it. It's stock MIUI with XJ's multilanguage pack, so it's just like MIUI is supposed to be. No junk or ugly themes added

I also get the delayed connection when I answer calls but besides that CM7 is the best there is.Some debate MIUI is better but its a matter of the individuals likes/dislikes. Also the themes and control of customization on CM7 IMO by far surpasses any other rom out there currently so you should prolly stick w/ CM. Hopefully the next stable release fixes the bugs your speaking of

Mouse I've been patient with CM since version 5, and I am fed up.
The good news is I am really digging this MIUIMod. Seems much more modern, smooth, and usable than CM. Have just now gotten things set up so it remains to be seen how well things work, but the camera is sure better and that's a biggie for me.
Takes forever to boot (no big deal) and I am missing my Galaxy wallpaper, but I am:
Digging it.

Quantumstate said:
Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
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flash away then and see what one you like the best thats what its all about...i would just use stock miui from either here or miui-dev if you are that finicky about roms

I just have so much to set up that it takes about a day. This is one thing that was so irritating abut CM; in order to correct atrocious usability bugs I'd have to completely reinstall each month and start all over again. I started with Rodriguez today and that's fine so far except for the lack of Galaxy wallpaper. Still have alot to learn about MIUI. Lucky it's Saturday...

You could always to CM6.x if you like CM's features.

Quantumstate said:
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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So much has been fixed and improved in the latest cyan nightlies over 7.0.3 that you prob should try that out first.

Have you given any of eVilD's sense roms? NXSense and NXSense HD have been working pretty well for me, although nobody can beat MIUI battery life and cuatomuzability

Haven't checked out the Sense ROMs.
MIUI is very nice so far. Desktops rotate like a cube and other nice effects. It's like a 21st century iPhone except without the restrictions, not a 20th century Windows-like CM phone. And I've found the Galaxy wallpaper in the market. My desktops are games|multimedia|default|appts/calendar|utilities. There is no launcher place where all the apps are; all apps are on desktops, but you can put apps inside a folder app which is very handy. Those apps I use are on desktops, those I rarely use are in Apps, Utilities, Multimedia, and Unused folders. No more screenshot app needed; it's Menu:VolDown now.
GPS still has problems, and still some things I haven't figured out. I need to put contacts into folders in the contacts app. With CM I'd put them into one contact and change the label to Custom with their name in it. That is only simulating folders though. Wish there were a better way or an app that could handle folders. Edit: Hey, Contacts has something called Groups, which just may be the ticket! Experimenting.
Does anyone know why DroidWall is no longer in the Market? That is my most valued app to keep out G**gle's prying eyes.

[Q] CM or Not? Which one?

Hello everyone,
I've been a fellow follower of the forum since I got my Galaxy S about 4 months ago. It is an amazing phone.
I've tried CM7 at the beginning, MIUI and several ROMs (currently with Darkys 10.1) and I had always a problem.
With CM7/MIUI the problem is battery life and some incompatibilities like codecs, playing flv files and so on. I am really having problems to know the current state of CM7 cores, mostly about if the battery life is comparable with stock rom.
I really want to try something that is still evolving but stable, that when I want to upgrade I don't have to wipe everything, and that I don't need to spend days to have everything working.
My main concern is battery life when using 3G, now it is simple not enough and the quantity of applications that can be run in background. For GPS I use GPS AIDS and seems to work fine.
So I really want to stick to only one ROM (Darky for me is too slow for updates and I have some issues with it)
EDIT: I am currently testing CM
Thanks!

if you want speed choose MIUI / CM7
If you want battery life Choose something similar to stock
if you want both ............ Tough sh!t lol

damianmb said:
So I really want to stick to only one ROM (Darky for me is too slow for updates and I have some issues with it)
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U can try Juwe's Rom 5.3 JVR it's fast, stable and has a good battery life.
I was on Darky's 10.2 befor flashing Juwe's 5.3 and i'm happy with it
People say's that S.U.R.F.A.C.E. has a good battery life too, I didn't tried it.

insanity cm is my advice, helpful thread, if you know what you are doing, good speed and stability, top developer...nitr8, and all good fun

slaphead20 said:
insanity cm is my advice, helpful thread, if you know what you are doing, good speed and stability, top developer...nitr8, and all good fun
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I used CM7 once, but what is so special about it? I only saw speed y the selectable themes. Then I had compatibility and codec issues, also needed to find some driver for the pc to use usb tethering.
I installed juwe over JVH with Darkys but I am getting FC with EDT app and reboots in the browser.... any ideas? Something wrong? I installed it via CMW with Wipe Version.
Also for Tethering you need to copy some script from one folder to another... why the Semaphore Kernel doesn't come with that predefined?
I may try SURFACE as for CM I need to mess with Odin.

slaphead20 said:
insanity cm is my advice, helpful thread, if you know what you are doing, good speed and stability, top developer...nitr8, and all good fun
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I can't believe you answered this post slappy..... But now you have..... Which launcher is best - adw or lp?
coz I really can't be arsed to make my own opinion.
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Hi, been long on Darky, now moving to Juwe. Tried out miui and Galnet version. Back to stock based ROM and happy

woolf clubs said:
I can't believe you answered this post slappy..... But now you have..... Which launcher is best - adw or lp?
coz I really can't be arsed to make my own opinion.
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Try launcher pro better than adw imho
Insanity cm033/platypus neo9 redux 5

woolf clubs said:
I can't believe you answered this post slappy..... But now you have..... Which launcher is best - adw or lp?
coz I really can't be arsed to make my own opinion.
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Hhaaha I say Zeam....
Slap is an insanity whore.... cant blame him though since it is the best ROM Ive been on
Still on Martux?

In my opinion jetpack rom with talon dev kernel is really good. I can play 2-3 days with one battery, one more day tzen on miui
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B3nnyTh3KiD said:
In my opinion jetpack rom with talon dev kernel is really good. I can play 2-3 days with one battery, one more day tzen on miui
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One more day in MIUI than in Jetpack?

I really tried Juwe's rom doing all the necessary steps.
But I have a force close error when trying to change the screen delay in settings, also no DPI support as the twLauncher and the browser has some lag.
I think I need another rom.

try this rom called : MilkyS MOD + KERNEL [v1.2]◄ Based on 2.3.4 XXJVR | Odin/CWM | ODEXED!
i had the same issue as u did , and the solutions is ryt above

As I am sure you have realized by now, the reason threads like this very little usefulness is that they almost immediately become Fanboi Fiestas. Each respondent will tell you that their favorite ROM will solve all of your problems and wash your car at the same time.
In the end, the only proper judge of which ROM is best for you will be YOU. You simply need to select a handful of ROMs that seem good to you, and test them out. No advice, no fanboi screed, no feature list can do that job for you.
Reading your posts, I can possibly give you some ideas of what to look for in very broad strokes.
First of all, the battery problem in CM7 is pretty much corrected by recent development. Most users now get about the same battery life as they would on the average Samsung ROM. However, I would NOT suggest you install CM7. If as you say you want to install a single ROM and then be done with it, then CM7 is certainly not for you as updates come every day or two. They don;t NEED to all be installed, but most users do. CM7 is the ROM for those who like to tweak and tune their phones and rewards people who like to experiment and really dig into the nuts and bolts of the OS. Since you say that when you installed CM7 for a little while months ago all you noticed was that it was faster and had lots of pretty themes, and you claim not to have time to even read a thread to learn about a ROM, then CM7 is ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR YOU.
Insanity and MUIU are both ROMs based on CM7 the same way the Samsung ROMs are based on the Samsung android version. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. Insanity is closer to CM7 in look and feel, while MUIU is closed source and by default very much like iOS. Each one has devoted fans, so feel free to try them.
The endless numbers of Samsung ROMs are mainly themed versions of the basic Samsung code, with some kernel tweaks thrown in. You are usually best off choosing the one you like the looks of best, if you choose to go in that direction. Samsung ROM fanbois and devs will usually tell you their ROM is incredibly fast and feature packed, and so much better than anyone else's ROM. Whether that is true or not, take all such claims with a grain of salt.
Go out, download 5 or so roms, read their install instructions carefully, familiarize yourself with ODIN and the three button recovery method...and start exploring.
Good luck.

salmanslick said:
try this rom called : MilkyS MOD + KERNEL [v1.2]◄ Based on 2.3.4 XXJVR | Odin/CWM | ODEXED!
i had the same issue as u did , and the solutions is ryt above
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Thanks I will try it. Can you install gtalk with video??

rschenck said:
As I am sure you have realized by now, the reason threads like this very little usefulness is that they almost immediately become Fanboi Fiestas. Each respondent will tell you that their favorite ROM will solve all of your problems and wash your car at the same time.
In the end, the only proper judge of which ROM is best for you will be YOU. You simply need to select a handful of ROMs that seem good to you, and test them out. No advice, no fanboi screed, no feature list can do that job for you.
Reading your posts, I can possibly give you some ideas of what to look for in very broad strokes.
First of all, the battery problem in CM7 is pretty much corrected by recent development. Most users now get about the same battery life as they would on the average Samsung ROM. However, I would NOT suggest you install CM7. If as you say you want to install a single ROM and then be done with it, then CM7 is certainly not for you as updates come every day or two. They don;t NEED to all be installed, but most users do. CM7 is the ROM for those who like to tweak and tune their phones and rewards people who like to experiment and really dig into the nuts and bolts of the OS. Since you say that when you installed CM7 for a little while months ago all you noticed was that it was faster and had lots of pretty themes, and you claim not to have time to even read a thread to learn about a ROM, then CM7 is ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR YOU.
Insanity and MUIU are both ROMs based on CM7 the same way the Samsung ROMs are based on the Samsung android version. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. Insanity is closer to CM7 in look and feel, while MUIU is closed source and by default very much like iOS. Each one has devoted fans, so feel free to try them.
The endless numbers of Samsung ROMs are mainly themed versions of the basic Samsung code, with some kernel tweaks thrown in. You are usually best off choosing the one you like the looks of best, if you choose to go in that direction. Samsung ROM fanbois and devs will usually tell you their ROM is incredibly fast and feature packed, and so much better than anyone else's ROM. Whether that is true or not, take all such claims with a grain of salt.
Go out, download 5 or so roms, read their install instructions carefully, familiarize yourself with ODIN and the three button recovery method...and start exploring.
Good luck.
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Hi, Thank you so much for your comment.
I am familiarized with Odin and CMW since I had the phone and I tried so many ROMs when I started. The thing is that now I don't have so much time to read all the posts I only read the first ones with the main info.
Now I will give a try to MilkyS and then I will try CM when I have more time.
I will update you guys on the topic.
Thanks!

i try cm7 it s better but battery drain is too

damianmb said:
I wanted to try CM Insanity but the lack of changelog and I don't know which features it has is pulling me back, I don't have the time to read all messages .
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What do you mean lack of changelog? Its on every post i post a rom post 1 and post 2 included...
http://nfye.eu/changelog

These kind of threads are pointless, like was mentioned earlier, each to his own ROM, some that work for some may not work for others, it does`nt make a ROM bad/unstable blah blah, only one way to judge a ROM, try it out then decide, no need for all this prick measuring...just my €1:74..

Ok thr best rom for you is jetpack, its pretty stable and has all features you are looking for with excellent battery life its very easy to install as the developer of that rom has made a simple yo use app. That takes care of all of the simple steps like wipe/no wipe, which kernel, which theme (two themes - basic stock theme or blue cm7 theme) and which modem! Jetpack's latest version which is v3.1 has some problems with tw4 so i advice you to not install v3.1 and wait for v3. 2 which will be there in 1-2 days as said by the developer!
Sent from my sgs
kernel: galaxian
Rom: jetpack

[Q] My head is spinning - how to evaluate ROMs/kernels - wait for ICS?

First - Kudos to XDA and all of the amazing developers and contributors. I never believed in the concept of "too much of a good thing", but this place has me thinking that it might be possible.
I want fast and stable (unlike others looking for slow and unstable ). Due to the frequent releases and unimaginably long threads, I'm having trouble pinpointing the info that I need. Since the forum doesn't allow me to ask opinions, please provide guidance on how to find the data.
It does seem that there are several dependable choices and I can't go wrong by rolling the dice among them. Is that a fair statement? I only want to do this once, because I do not have the time or skills to evaluate and compare the installations.
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent. Anyone want to speculate on the ETA of a stable release? Would it make sense to wait?

I will get back to you later when I'm on my computer, reserved. ...
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steveorg said:
First - Kudos to XDA and all of the amazing developers and contributors. I never believed in the concept of "too much of a good thing", but this place has me thinking that it might be possible.
I want fast and stable (unlike others looking for slow and unstable ). Due to the frequent releases and unimaginably long threads, I'm having trouble pinpointing the info that I need. Since the forum doesn't allow me to ask opinions, please provide guidance on how to find the data.
It does seem that there are several dependable choices and I can't go wrong by rolling the dice among them. Is that a fair statement? I only want to do this once, because I do not have the time or skills to evaluate and compare the installations.
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent. Anyone want to speculate on the ETA of a stable release? Would it make sense to wait?
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Depending on your needs, and what you're running now. There are some very good/stable GB releases, I personally like Mosaic 8 the most. Apex 10.1 is also very good. For something a little different, Miui is also very good. I suffer from somewhat poor battery life on Miui in comparison to Mosaic 8.
ICS is looking good, but there are some pretty major issues in the way right now, we really do need a kernel for our devices even though the i9000 works. There is no data(3g), and no Google calendar sync are the main issues for me. Obviously the dev's are working their butts off to get ICS going, and I dont like to speculate on timelines, because you just never know. Someone could crack the code today, or it could be weeks.

kangi26 said:
...I suffer from somewhat poor battery life...
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Thanks for mentioning battery life. That's a factor that I hadn't considered. I guess that I should expand my question to ask what are the factors that I should consider? So far I have three:
Stability
Speed
Battery life
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If more are suggested, I'll add them to this post as they come in.
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when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important. (thanks TRusselo)
Do not reinstall apps that previously "fixed" issues like battery life, memory issues and GPS inadequacies because they may introduce instability, which sometimes may persist after the app is uninstalled.
Flashing is quick and easy. TiBU restores, settings tweaks and home app set-up is time consuming. Accordingly, kick a few tires to help decide which ROM works best for you.

well all the gingerbread roms are "stable". ( froyo too obviously)
many things can affect speed and battery- kernel, your apps, your habbits.
if trying a froyo first before "movin on up" MUST TRY firefly 3.0 with onix kernel. battery life worth drooling over! and many themes available for it.
gingerbread, many great roms.
when it comes to kernels, lately ive been seeing alot of "highly tweaked" kernels (eg red nebula) that well, just seems like over-kill (especially without kernel source) and to a new user is kinda "head spinning" stick with something simple and close to stock to start. samurai is a good place to start, or boogs kernels...
when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important.

TRusselo said:
...many things can affect speed and battery- kernel, your apps, your habbits...
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I assume that apps that run in the background or are processor intensive will be slower and consume more power. Is there any info to determine which ROMs or kernels are better with those kind of apps?
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when it comes to kernels, lately ive been seeing alot of "highly tweaked" kernels (eg red nebula) that well, just seems like over-kill (especially without kernel source) and to a new user is kinda "head spinning" stick with something simple and close to stock to start. samurai is a good place to start, or boogs kernels...
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Is the kernel source an issue for someone that is not a developer? How?
TRusselo said:
when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important.
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I'll add that to the list above. Thanks, and thanks for all of your info.

steveorg said:
I assume that apps that run in the background or are processor intensive will be slower and consume more power. Is there any info to determine which ROMs or kernels are better with those kind of apps?
Is the kernel source an issue for someone that is not a developer? How?
I'll add that to the list above. Thanks, and thanks for all of your info.
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Most of those issues will be determined by the apps you run, not so much the kernel you run.
On Mosaic, I have very good performance with Talon, and Semaphore
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While going through the excellent XDA and Android Terms and Acronyms, I came across the definition for No-Wipe Package:
NO-WIPE PACKAGE: A rom update package that leaves the user's market apps intact while still performing the updates to the system files. Restoring from backup is not necessary.
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Now that seem like a strong reason to use a package. Does anyone know which ROMs come with a No-Wipe Package?
However, is there any advantage to clean installs through backup/restore? Can a No-Wipe Package be used when going from Froyo to Gingerbread?

No wipe packages are usually for one ROM, when some stuff has changed but not the firmware version or anything super major.
Most roms are wipe packages, titanium backup pro comes in real handy, menu> batch> restore missing apps. And walk away til its done.

steveorg said:
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent... Would it make sense to wait?
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I too was wondering about this.
I'm on FireFly 3.0 and was thinking of going to Dlev 4.2.
I don't like flashing roms because it takes to long to get the phone back to my config. I prefer to flash and stick with it for some time.
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?

geeksquad2 said:
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?
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Look, too say ICS is "imminent" is just an overstatement..........if you have not done anything to oyour phone, or have little experience, ICS maybe a step too far ahead.
If you want to go straight to Gingerbread, that may more understandable.
In my OPINION, Apex 10.1 (a i9000 ROM) or Pinnacle 1.2 (a SGH-1987 ROM) are great top-of-the-line ROMs, especially because watsa includes his own ODIN packages and they are ready to go. A no-brainer for most folks. The instructions and packages are a big plus.

Now that I'm done
The upgrade was a much more painful experience than expected, but well worth the outcome.
I wanted to do it once, and I succeeded if you redefine "once" as 5 ROM flashes with full TiBU restores, settings tweaks and home app (GO Launcher) set-up. I also performed several other ROM and Kernel flashes where I just briefly checked out the look and feel and how well a few features worked. Surprisingly, basic apps such as the Market could be problematic. Even more surprisingly, the same ROM could perform differently when reflashed.
I suspect that is partly because I had a very sick cappy. Some of my problems were caused by too many app fixes that caused their own problems. One of the reasons for the multiple flashes with TiBu restores was to isolate the trouble makers while the rest of my apps were installed. In the end, I removed every app that "fixed" issues like battery life, memory issues and GPS inadequacies. Now that I know better, I think of these apps as personal bloat ware that should not be installed with any new ROM or kernel until you've had a chance to understand if you have problems requiring a fix. Sometimes, even installing and then uninstalling seems to create permanent problems.
I also learned not to be intimidated by flashing. It's an easy to understand and quick process. The key is to check out the ROM before the hard part - TiBu restores and customizing the settings.
BTW - The winner was (drum roll please ) - Illuminance 2.1.1. It has several SGSII features (new Swype is nice), seems fast, doubled my battery life and has been stable. I compared it to a friend's brand-spanking new AT&T SGS II and my reborn cappy held up. For example, the SGSII was a a bit faster on loading Google Maps, getting a fix and loading a traffic overlay, but not so much that there was a functional difference.
I actually flashed Illuminance 3 times - once just to kick the tires. I removed it once because my bloat created instability and caused the Market not to work. The only minor issue I have left is GPS optimization. The GPS works well (previously was often useless and very slow), but from reading this forum I believe it could be snappier and more accurate.
I added some of these observations to my second post on this thread.

Personally, I'd say just flash MIUI and then wait for the ICS port to become stable enough to be used as a daily driver without any major setbacks. But only because that's what I'm doing
The main attraction of MIUI is its huge degree of customization. You can customize everything from the battery icon to the framework itself without ever having to reboot your phone. You just find a theme you like and apply it.
The only downside of it is the battery life. While in use, it's the same as any other Samsung/CM7-based ROM, but it usually drains at ~5% per hour when in standby. Of course this can be kept at around ~2% an hour if you keep wifi/data/sync turned off (personal experience, ymmv).
... The more you know
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chappatti said:
Look, too say ICS is "imminent" is just an overstatement..........if you have not done anything to oyour phone, or have little experience, ICS maybe a step too far ahead.
If you want to go straight to Gingerbread, that may more understandable.
In my OPINION, Apex 10.1 (a i9000 ROM) or Pinnacle 1.2 (a SGH-1987 ROM) are great top-of-the-line ROMs, especially because watsa includes his own ODIN packages and they are ready to go. A no-brainer for most folks. The instructions and packages are a big plus.
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Ok, so I spent a week or so reading up, and finally this afternoon, I flashed over to Pinnacle v1.2. I noticed that there was a v1.3, but I didn't get it.
It worked like a charm! I was done in under an hour. Thanks for your advice!

i would add that if you are getting into flashing a lot of different roms, its worth getting the paid version of Titanium Backup because it can restore all of your apps and settings in one step, rather than with the free version, where you have to click "install" for each one as the batch process happens. it will literally save you hours for all of maybe $6

If you really don't want to lose anything and you're getting into flashing it might be worth your money to invest in mybackup pro ontop of titanium backup pro.
It will restore call logs, sms, mms, specific app settings (like if you use a market keyboard), plus alot more. Its definitely worth it, you can restore nearly everything between after switching roms to a new daily driver.
Flashing is a disease so don't be surprised when you get the urge to look up whats new in a couple weeks and wanna try the different ICS roms and such, make all the backup software extremely important.

geeksquad2 said:
I too was wondering about this.
I'm on FireFly 3.0 and was thinking of going to Dlev 4.2.
I don't like flashing roms because it takes to long to get the phone back to my config. I prefer to flash and stick with it for some time.
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?
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No...not really (on Beta 2 ics)...its just cool
I would update though.....really stable.

There is not a true beta 2 ICS for the Captivate, ytt3r hasn't done it yet.
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b-eock said:
There is not a true beta 2 ICS for the Captivate, ytt3r hasn't done it yet.
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Its the i9000 build with a custom captivate kernel....works the same as it would if it were a i897 rom.

Dude I know what it is... But there isn't a beta 2 kernel for the captivate yet...
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