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[Q] HTC Weather App Not Updating, at all. (HTC IS)

Hey Guys,
I've had my Incredible S for about 2 weeks and the last couple of days the Clock/Weather app is not updating AT ALL...manually or auto. I'm amusing its most likely a weather server issue but just wanted to know if anyone else is having these dramas....in Australia.
And I just remembered something else, not sure if I should start a new thread for this but my battery life so far is pretty crap, could be the Optus ROM but I hear other people having quite a good battery experience with this model... I mean, I hate saying this but I think my old 1yr old 3GS that I got rid of lasted longer...thats insane. haha.
Thanks in advance guys.
HTC Incredible S Stock 2.3.3 (S-ON...unfortunately)

Yep - same problem here of weather not updating as of a few days ago on my Legend on Optus. Others also seeing the same problem in Oz
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/343392-htc-weather-app-widget.html

Thanks for your reply mate.
Sort of a relief to know I'm not the only one...but still...NOT good if that makes sense...haha
Yeah I know some ppl with with the Desire HD (Froyo, 2.3) that have the issue as well... Just saying that as on the Android forums someone said that a friend of there's has 2.2 and it worked so...I still believe it could be server related... Shame really, I have to run a third party weather widget/app when there's a perfectly good one in HTC Sense (built in)...with a clock too! haha
Cheers.

I'm using the HTC stock Froyo on my Legend (upgraded from Eclair a few months back) so the weather update issue appears to be a server one as came out of the blue - wasn't related to a Android update

I just re read my post. I meant 2.2 Froyo. Not 2.3. Haha. Yeah, I agree, its gotta be server related.
Thanks mate.

Same issue here. Got back from the USA yesterday and since then my location weather hasnt been updating, it was working fine over in the US. Since updated to 2.3 Gingerbread and still got the same issue (Some cities update others don't (including my home location and Melbourne, Hobart, London). Mine is a HK DHD so it's just not the incredible S.

Yeah, its weird.
Thanks guys anyway...I haven't tried it for a while now, been using other widgets etc...shame I have to do that though...
But if anyone's got any ideas, please share. If only I could root this bloody thing... I could change where it gets its info from.... I think... haha

Fellaz, try clear data in order = Google Maps + Clock Widget + Weather + HTC Sync Weather Provider + Weather Provider
It works on my IS..
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[Q] Disabling HTC Sense

Anyone know of any ways to disable as much of HTC sense as possible? I have installed ADW launcher cause I much prefer a cleaner look/feel to my device, but that crazy pull down notification area and the constant nagging to authorise HTC on Facebook is becoming a nightmare!

Wait for someone to release a cyanogenmod rom. After you've s-off'd and rooted of course. Apart from that not much you can do, mate edit some build.prop if your experienced in that kind of thing.

Well you gotta ask yourself, why buy a HTC with sense if you dislike the software!... should have went for nexus s, SGS2 etc.
If you root and wait for a cyanogen 7.1 rom, that will disable beats by Dre and it will not work the same if it is managed.
Sent from my rooted Incredible S using cyanogen 7.1, ADW launcher

I asked myself.... The reply was... I liked the hardware and knew the dev community would be up and running soon producing some top notch bloat free software. In the meantime, I have found that removing my details from accounts avoids the annoying Facebook prompts. Oh, and I also got some free Beats solo headphones in the box... Bonus! As for the Beats - it's simply a custom tuned equalisation which can be done on any software.

HTC supports unlocking now... unlock that baby and put on the ROM you want!

ICS

Ice cream sandwich looks so nice. I can't wait to have it on my incredible S. What are you most looking forward to having on your device?
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA App

you should check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357579

Yeaaah c'ant wait for ics
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Good, i hope that it will work with BootManager on Trinity Sensation XL 's rom !

Thanks for MIUI chinese version.... it's not AOSP ICS !

I'm looking forward to ICS too

Waiting for ICS too
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did you guys ever get the Sense 3.0 OTA update?
you have the same specs as our desire S, but we got the update, but you guys never,,,
strange

olyloh6696 said:
did you guys ever get the Sense 3.0 OTA update?
you have the same specs as our desire S, but we got the update, but you guys never,,,
strange
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yes we didn't.
The IS was launched just one month before the Desire S, it did not get Sense 3.0 and has been abandoned by HTC because of which this is probably my last HTC phone.

such a shame as we dont thinki we will get ics anymore too

hussainmushahid said:
yes we didn't.
The IS was launched just one month before the Desire S, it did not get Sense 3.0 and has been abandoned by HTC because of which this is probably my last HTC phone.
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Not sure I get your gripe, the phone is over a year old. It's time for you to take responsibility and flash it.

Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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RicarduZonta said:
Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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Hopefully your sources are reliable enough, because December starts tomorrow
Fingers crossed to get some new official rom for xmas

RicarduZonta said:
Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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Sense made my phone laggy and have terriable battery life. Why would I want that.
Cm7 is more like an iPhone. Battery is better although not quite as good as my friends iPhone 3gs that has 80% battery left at the end of the day on ios 5.

I agree. Why bother with official ROM's when year has passed - no warranty anyway. I get 5 days of battery life with CM7.

weaselEST said:
I agree. Why bother with official ROM's when year has passed - no warranty anyway. I get 5 days of battery life with CM7.
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Sense is only good if you like getting loads of updates from Facebook.

we should be getting ICS update for sure ans some phones listed out by HTC are older versions than ours..also tried the ICS rom by galinet miui but somehow it does not go past the bootup screen..

Using cm nightlies and I don't see what the big deal is about ics... I'm not sure what else I want my phone to do that it doesn't do already. I can phone and text, send picture messages, browse the web, use torrent, watch movies, connect to a printer, feed other devices using the portable hotspot, play snes, nintendo, n64, sega, gameboy, game gear, take photos, record video in hd, use gps and navigation install any app I want and control my bell pvr while I'm taking a crap. What else is it I need?

itsbeertimenow said:
Using cm nightlies and I don't see what the big deal is about ics... I'm not sure what else I want my phone to do that it doesn't do already. I can phone and text, send picture messages, browse the web, use torrent, watch movies, connect to a printer, feed other devices using the portable hotspot, play snes, nintendo, n64, sega, gameboy, game gear, take photos, record video in hd, use gps and navigation install any app I want and control my bell pvr while I'm taking a crap. What else is it I need?
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that's one way of looking at it but i think you are missing the point. from what i've read, ics is supposed to enhance the android experience. in other words, add more polish and improve the look and the feel of the operating system. what you are referring to is hardware capabilities and app functionalities.
if I can have the same functionalities in a more polished package, I would at least want to give it a go.

aaratpatel said:
also tried the ICS rom by galinet miui but somehow it does not go past the bootup screen..
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that's a known bug with the new release. there's a workaround for that: you have to flash the weekly (non-ics) version first, let it boot up, reboot into recovery then flash the ics version on top. or you can just flash the previous release (v1.11.9). it's been flawless for me.

Sensation XL.. OR Desire HD?

Hi guys
Thanks for this great forum, and special thanks goes to you Capy, you are ****ing awesome!!
I have had my DHD for allmost a year now, and have been using several different roms for it, the one i am most happy with, is the RCMix3d Runny..
Oh yeah!
Now i got some questions..
My old DHD is about to retire, and i have these options..
Buy a "new" used one, that has been used for two months, and then have it for another year.. I am really a glad user of the DHD, and i wouldnt mind having the model for another year..
OR i could go and buy the Sensation XL..
But then some questions do pop up, that only develepors and other other people who knows a lot more than me, can answer..
Will the developing of ROMS and custom stuff, be quite as much for the Sensation XL, as it is for the DHD?
I think that i am only gonna go with the RCMix Runny..
and my biggest concern right now, is how to flash it?
I've heard something about all new models from HTC comes allready with s-off and all the other stuff off, so that you can install another rom, without flashing.. Is that correct?
Thank you so much for your time!

giusdk said:
Hi guys
Thanks for this great forum, and special thanks goes to you Capy, you are ****ing awesome!!
I have had my DHD for allmost a year now, and have been using several different roms for it, the one i am most happy with, is the RCMix3d Runny..
Oh yeah!
Now i got some questions..
My old DHD is about to retire, and i have these options..
Buy a "new" used one, that has been used for two months, and then have it for another year.. I am really a glad user of the DHD, and i wouldnt mind having the model for another year..
OR i could go and buy the Sensation XL..
But then some questions do pop up, that only develepors and other other people who knows a lot more than me, can answer..
Will the developing of ROMS and custom stuff, be quite as much for the Sensation XL, as it is for the DHD?
I think that i am only gonna go with the RCMix Runny..
and my biggest concern right now, is how to flash it?
I've heard something about all new models from HTC comes allready with s-off and all the other stuff off, so that you can install another rom, without flashing.. Is that correct?
Thank you so much for your time!
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More than likely. It's a very new device but once it picks up, developers will become more common. Give it some time, and the ROMs will start appearing =]
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk

jimbo.levy said:
More than likely. It's a very new device but once it picks up, developers will become more common. Give it some time, and the ROMs will start appearing =]
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk
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Cool, thank you
But after reading this:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42444/htc-sensation-xl-xe-vs
I will say that the Sensation XE is better, though it has a smaller screen..
More pixels
Never processor
Records 1080p, which XL doesn't, only 720p
HDMI out, XL doesn't have
1730mAh battery, the XL has 1600
Its only screen size and memory size, that XL beats XE..

right, but the XL is the winner....
and better battery life

lebowsky77o said:
right, but the XL is the winner....
and better battery life
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why is it the "winner" ?

giusdk said:
why is it the "winner" ?
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Use one and you'll see why
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk

Why is the winner??
Becouse in the article you have posted, you can see at the end:
"Conclusion
1ST HTC SENSATION XL
2ND: HTC SENSATION
3RD: HTC SENSATION XE"

jimbo.levy said:
Use one and you'll see why
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk
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.. OH, right.. thank you SO much for the help..
Since you say so, that i just should use one, to know which one is the best, then you must have done it, used both phones..
Now.. Can you please tell my WHY the XL is better?
Yes, i can see you do have it, but.. why?
it isn't just because you are bitter, that the XE is better on many things?
The only thing that i can see is greater, is the screensize..
But then again, why have a bigger screen with less pixels?

lebowsky77o said:
right, but the XL is the winner....
and better battery life
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Why does the XL have better battery life?
The XE comes with a bigger battery, and SMALLER screen..
And you say the XL has better battery life..
Can you explain that??

Again with that article you posted:
"Battery Life
1ST: SENSATION XL1600mAh, up to 710 mins talk time
2ND: SENSATION XE:1730mAh, 550 mins talk time
3RD: SENSATION1520mAh, up to 500 mins talk time
Thee Sensation XL offers quite a big advantage in terms of battery life over the straight HTC Sensation and Sensation XE depsite not having as big a battery pack as the last of the three. The difference is likely to be down to having a less power-hungry system-on-a-chip as well as having fewer pixels push and possibly to do with the nature of the screen technology as well. Whatever the reason, though, the result is that if you’re deeply concerned about not getting enough juice out of your handset, you might want to seriously consider the HTC Sensation XL over the others."
Have you read what you posted?

giusdk said:
.. OH, right.. thank you SO much for the help..
Since you say so, that i just should use one, to know which one is the best, then you must have done it, used both phones..
Now.. Can you please tell my WHY the XL is better?
Yes, i can see you do have it, but.. why?
it isn't just because you are bitter, that the XE is better on many things?
The only thing that i can see is greater, is the screensize..
But then again, why have a bigger screen with less pixels?
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The Sensation and Sensation XE use the same 8260 processor although the XE is merely clocked higher. Both phones (and I'll put money on this) utilize a badly coded CPU (HTCs fault) rendering the apparent "awesome" dual core somewhat useless. I have used the Sensation and was appalled by it. It was choppy, slow to respond and was nowhere near as pleasing as the XL (which, despite being only single core, uses a newer generation CPU). The XL beat the Sensation on ALL tests other than benchmarking and even then the Sensation was only marginaly faster...but it's using a dual core, lolwot?
The GPU in the Sensation and XE is better than the one in the XL but there is virtually nothing demanding enough on smart phones that can really show the difference.
As far as RAM goes, although the XE has more, I have still yet to find someone that didn't find 700 odd mb of RAM to be more than adequate.
And then there's the battery...
Because the Sensation and XE are running an inefficient CPU, the battery drain is rapid, regardless of whether the XE cell has greater capacity or not.
And in my opinion, quarter HD screens look crap.
There you go.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk

In a nutshell, the practicality of the XL surpassed the other two, despite "better" specs.
IMO
And I'm definitely not bitter about it. I chose the XL even though I had the option of getting the XE or Sensation.
The guy in the store even offered me a Galaxy Nexus for the exact same price that I'm paying per month on this contract and I turned that down too.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using Tapatalk

lebowsky77o said:
Again with that article you posted:
"Battery Life
1ST: SENSATION XL1600mAh, up to 710 mins talk time
2ND: SENSATION XE:1730mAh, 550 mins talk time
3RD: SENSATION1520mAh, up to 500 mins talk time
Thee Sensation XL offers quite a big advantage in terms of battery life over the straight HTC Sensation and Sensation XE depsite not having as big a battery pack as the last of the three. The difference is likely to be down to having a less power-hungry system-on-a-chip as well as having fewer pixels push and possibly to do with the nature of the screen technology as well. Whatever the reason, though, the result is that if you’re deeply concerned about not getting enough juice out of your handset, you might want to seriously consider the HTC Sensation XL over the others."
Have you read what you posted?
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Yes, i have read it.
I asked for your opinion, not what i could read, because it sounds like you have had both phones in your hands. I have had none of them, i am at home with a broken leg, so gonna buy on the internet and have it send here, cant go to a shop to test them right now

Hope you will be cured soon, mate
Im going right now to take my Sensation XL, that has just arrived from Leipzig today. I really think that is te best smartphone than others, only because is the last and I think is the desire hd evolved.
I think that sensation XE was an "experiment" that has materialized in the XL, with the beats audio and everything else.
I had a desire hd and were very proud about it; last week I sold it. Great phone indeed

I've had the Desire HD and I'm loving the sensation XL major turn off is the no sd card slot for expansion and I really hope Capy keeps developing other roms for this great device and hope that other developers will join him as well
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium

I did the step and made the change from DHD to SXL, and guess what.... i have no regret of my choice i made. Bigger screen, faster response, better battery life, and the bonus for me was the Beats Audio pack i've got (Solo HD by Dr.Dre)

sense 4.0

does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks

ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.

thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues

ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.

question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.

I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.

dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..

homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0

What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics

Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!

Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.

i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know

Aus_Azn said:
Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP