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ICS. Isn't it overrated?

Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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Sense fanboy rules out this whole statement. Going from cm7 to cm9 is extreme. If I wasn't on a cell I'd elaborate.
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ragapa97 said:
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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I guess ICS is a huge step for guys that never tried MIUI or don't like Sense Roms, for those o tried/like MIUI and Sense it is a question of just some more features.

ragapa97 said:
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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At least for devices built with/for Sense in mind, when it gets officially combined with ICS by HTC (later this year, they say), it may reveal a new light on the subject.
It might work great and be more stable/smooth and give you the desired Sense functions that current ICS ports don't have.
And only at 4.0.3, ICS may yet have places to go we will have to wait to see.
Maybe you are correct, still.. for now...
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ragapa97 said:
I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101.
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These two bits of information are key. Try it on a Galaxy Nexus / Nexus S and you may have a differing opinion.

well as st.matt said, you should try it on the galaxy nexus device and then only you will get the real taste of ice crem sandwich!
With better interface,power management,loads of new features...its definitely better than its previous versions.

@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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ragapa97 said:
@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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Doesn't have to do specifically with hardware. It means those phones and tablets have better support due to official releases.
Everything else that doesn't have an official release has devs trying their best to get it working, but not everything is working or disabled. Such as most HTC devices.

Sense 3.5 reduced my phone to a laggy mess, which is why I switched to miui. I'd be interested in seeing what the official release of ICS runs like when it's out.

When htc release the update to Ics there will be lots of Ics Roms that are really smooth and fast for the incredible s

yes agree with you. sens + ics in my opinion will be a step forward

I'm waiting too for ICS + sense. Lets get our hopes up..... Or not!
HTC Incredible S - S-Off
Recovery: 4EXT v1.0.0.3 RC3 Touch
Radio: 3322.10.08.28_M
ROM: MIUI

After seeing the ICS ports by StMatt and Virtuous team, I'm having a sneaky, suspicious feeling that ICS + sense will make me wish for going back to gingerbread + sense.
ICS IMO has been a major disappointment, (just like the Niagara Falls have been the second major disappointment in an American bride's life).
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I've been running the Quattro ROM on my phone for almost a month now, and while that ROM does have some customization in it and still has a fair bit of bugs, I'd have a hard time going back to 2.3 even with the Sense. While Sense is really nice, Android before ICS did have a fair bit of lag on it and just didn't feel as smooth as things like iOS. With ICS, moving homescreens, swiping pages in applications, etc. just feels a little more natural and with less lag.
Plus, with Google Chrome for ICS, that's enough reason to go over. Miles above the stock Android browser!

Nik is releasing a sense+ ics rom tomorrow and I can't wait to try it. I tried all the other ics roms that are out for the incs and I have to admit that I'm quite disappointed. I use cm7 before I switched to trinity so niks New rom might be the one for me
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They're disappointments bcuz they're betas! FCs and shortages aside they look charming can't w8 for a miui 4 that's stable
HTC Incredible S - S-Off
Recovery: 4EXT v1.0.0.3 RC3 Touch
Radio: 3322.10.08.28_M
ROM: MIUI

I guess they will truly be stable when htc releases the update at the end of march ... Right now I'm going to flash niks dream rom to tie me down
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Seems like some Microsoft initiated FUD campaign, in order to promote Windows 8; but whaddya know, there may just be some truth in the fact that "ICS has not been well received by phone / tablet manufacturers and ICS acceptance percentages have been way too little"
Maybe there is some truth in the blurb, and maybe the sour grapes feeling in me is really justified....
Read the link.....
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html[url]
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Do you think the ICS original rom will receive 3.X kernel?That would be awesome!

[Q] ICS Update !!

anybody knows when our devices will get the ICS already ??? any updates on the release date ??

HTC didn't officially release any date for the same but may be our device will test ICS after april.

bhaumik555 said:
HTC didn't officially release any date for the same but may be our device will test ICS after april.
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What is your source for this?
I am currently running IceCold as I am too impatient and was boring of Virtuous Affinity.
I miss HTC Sense I know loads of people hate sense. I have no idea why. It's 100% better than the standard Android layout. Widget, htc apps (people, music etc), menus . Everything is much nicer and more feature full.
Anyway .... Not sure on the release, I haven't heard anything official.
Hopefully the post above is from a good source.

deanfarnaby said:
What is your source for this?
Anyway .... Not sure on the release, I haven't heard anything official.
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HTC announced it themselves, we're getting an official ICS from them.

Yeah HTC announced it but never said a release date, just a "later this year". They said after they do the sensations which I think has just been released or about to be released. I'm hoping mike1986 does a ICS ROM.
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Well, Sense was cool the first week... then I realized that I don't use any of the Sense-widgets, nor did I use HTC's apps and I got tired of the layout
Everything that makes an HTC phone an HTC was also what made me change to an AOSP rom^^
There ya go why at least one guy don't like Sense
OnT (almost)
Only reason for why I'd like to see an official ics update, is because I'd like to see a fully functional AOSP ics rom
Asap would be the perfect time :3
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biomech91 said:
HTC announced it themselves, we're getting an official ICS from them.
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Seen this the day it was announced.
What I meant was, where did this guy get after April from?
Is there a source for that or just a guess.
Looking at youtube videos of the Sensation it would seem HTC have scrapped the "grid style" menu button. Instead it's the list type, with no icons, that takes up almost the entire screen (Normally you would get this under "more" if necessary"

sense 4.0

does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks

ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.

thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues

ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.

question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.

I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.

dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..

homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0

What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics

Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!

Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.

i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know

Aus_Azn said:
Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP

Best ROM (I know this question has been asked a lot of times)

Hi,
I am tired of trying new ROMs daily and want to settle down with one ROM. Currently i am on Ice cold sandwich and always come back to this ROM after trying any other ROM. My dream ROM would be with HTC sense (3.6 or 4 any would do) with fast ice cream sandwich. Speed and stability is important for me. Please suggest some good ROMs.
Thanks

Everyone's experience is dofferent with each rom..
Have u tried miui? Thats the one to go for me
Smooth, light and sense camera with miui sleekness
Waiting for the stable jb now
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I'm on Nik's Project X. If you like Sense 4, it's the perfect ROM for you

lagu805 said:
Everyone's experience is dofferent with each rom..
Have u tried miui? Thats the one to go for me
Smooth, light and sense camera with miui sleekness
Waiting for the stable jb now
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda app-developers app
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Is it stable?? i have tried almost all ROMs except miui.

WILLI120 said:
I'm on Nik's Project X. If you like Sense 4, it's the perfect ROM for you
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i found the haptic feedback intermittent and very low. is it changed in 4.1

Hmmm up until now i havent experienced any drawbacks... Its good for me
You might need to flash the boot img though
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akshaywani said:
i found the haptic feedback intermittent and very low. is it changed in 4.1
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I think, yes. But we don't have Sense 4.1 right now. But we will get it surely when we get a port from the new Desire X. But with the kernel from lost.prophet and the governor lionheart the ROM seems very smooth to me. It feels great, but try it yourself - it's all about taste

you should try the official pre-root rom, if the stability is your main key. I use the rooted official rom, sense 3.6 on ics. The speed is not bad but not so fast.
Because I use this phone for getting my job done and little chat with my friends. Next year I will flash the custom rom, when htc is no longer issue any updates for this phone.
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The best ROM is the one that works best for your requirements on your phone.
Each ROM has certain features, some USPs and some shortcomings, but ALL ARE GOOD! Or else they wouldn't be showcased by the respective ROM developers (thank god htcphones has been banned).
So check each one out, try them in your daily usage pattern and then select one. Asking others what's good for me is like choosing a girlfriend/ partner and asking others to test and tell if she's OK!
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Cookie Ninja said:
The best ROM is the one that works best for your requirements on your phone.
Each ROM has certain features, some USPs and some shortcomings, but ALL ARE GOOD! Or else they wouldn't be showcased by the respective ROM developers (thank god htcphones has been banned).
So check each one out, try them in your daily usage pattern and then select one. Asking others what's good for me is like choosing a girlfriend/ partner and asking others to test and tell if she's OK!
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I volunteer for that job.

Nonverbose said:
I volunteer for that job.
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You dawg, you!
P.S. don't mind volunteering, myself, but the wife would be mighty miffed.
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WILLI120 said:
I'm on Nik's Project X. If you like Sense 4, it's the perfect ROM for you
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Been running it for 2 days now. A poster in the thread mentioned phenomenal battery life. Unfortunately I don't see it. I am at 50% right now since the morning and I am a light user. I am coming from 2.3.5 which had a 3 day average use for me. Not happy with performance buy happy that I have ICS. If my provider didn't stop development I'd be still on 2.3.5 until stable release. Oh well.
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moskva said:
Been running it for 2 days now. A poster in the thread mentioned phenomenal battery life. Unfortunately I don't see it. I am at 50% right now since the morning and I am a light user. I am coming from 2.3.5 which had a 3 day average use for me. Not happy with performance buy happy that I have ICS. If my provider didn't stop development I'd be still on 2.3.5 until stable release. Oh well.
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Than you're doing sth wrong. My battery life is great. I'm on 60% now with a rough usage the whole day... Disable auto-brightness, that should do it

WILLI120 said:
Than you're doing sth wrong. My battery life is great. I'm on 60% now with a rough usage the whole day... Disable auto-brightness, that should do it
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Not sure what could be wrong. Didn't touch any settings. Everything default, except turned off the animations that I hate so much.
I'll turn it off and see what that does.

moskva said:
Not sure what could be wrong. Didn't touch any settings. Everything default, except turned off the animations that I hate so much.
I'll turn it off and see what that does.
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I'm also using Nik Project X. Even though the ICS experience is so much better than GB, the battery life is not comparable. I could get at least 4 days with Nik Trinity XL. With Project X, I get 3 days roughly. I'm using the same settings I used to have with Trinity XL but battery performance could not match Project X. I'm still happy about the ICS's smoothness.

moskva said:
Not sure what could be wrong. Didn't touch any settings. Everything default, except turned off the animations that I hate so much.
I'll turn it off and see what that does.
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In the beginning I also didn't touch anything and battery life was terrible... Don't really know what changed it. I hope auto-brightness does it...

WILLI120 said:
In the beginning I also didn't touch anything and battery life was terrible... Don't really know what changed it. I hope auto-brightness does it...
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Auto-brightness, how often things sync with the internet, how good of an area are you in for signal reception. Even having your phone on silent will give you better battery life: if your constantly getting messages from whatsapp etc instead of playing a sound for message notification.
My phone will get to about 8pm with 70% battery, but then i talk to people on whatsapp and my battery goes down to about 10%.

akshaywani said:
Hi,
I am tired of trying new ROMs daily and want to settle down with one ROM. Currently i am on Ice cold sandwich and always come back to this ROM after trying any other ROM. My dream ROM would be with HTC sense (3.6 or 4 any would do) with fast ice cream sandwich. Speed and stability is important for me. Please suggest some good ROMs.
Thanks
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Hi. I'm interested to try IceColdSandwich someday, but it seems that there were several bugs which makes me thinking whether should or not to flash this ROM. Have you tried Nik Project X V4.1? If so, can you help me compare pros and cons between these two ROMs? Because I'm Nik Project X V4.1's user. Never had a chance to try IceColdSandwich yet.

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I'm on Nik's Project X. If you like Sense 4, it's the perfect ROM for you
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I tried flashing that, got stuck at White screen with htc logo, stayed like that for few hours, went back to my CM7.2 ROM

phoenix633 said:
I tried flashing that, got stuck at White screen with htc logo, stayed like that for few hours, went back to my CM7.2 ROM
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am using the rom since few days i dont find any bugs..its the best sense 4.0 rom i ever used..

Android 4.1 for Incredible S from HTC?Maybe'

Look at this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-publishes-jelly-bean-qa-2012-devices-first-excluding-one-v
Maybe we will have a chance Or at least a port from Desire X!

I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.

Guaranab said:
I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.
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I'm sorry... but... a little bit late ?
A little?
It took them 9 months...
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Like I said in the other thread, there's basically no way we're getting it from HTC...
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse. And now think about them just throwing together another update for us...
I don't think it'll be pretty.
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Splux said:
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse.
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That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.

JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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TheDareDevil said:
JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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Jb will come with sense 4+ for all devices.
guys we have seen heaps of updates compared to other phones (nexus doesn't count)
Big updates:
2.2 froyo + sense 2.1
2.3.3 gingerbread + sense 2.1
2.3.5 GB with sense 3.0
Now 4.0 ICS with sense 3.6
The phone was unveiled at MWC 2011 in January iirc. I still remember lying on the floor reading about the incredible S's rotating buttons, fascinated by them. Long time ago. Point is, that our phone is more than 18 months old, nearly 2 years.
That's quite a major bump in both android and sense versions compared with other devices
SGS2 came with 2.3.3 GB
Got 2.3.5
Then got 4.0
Maybe getting 4.1 (higher chance than us)
They have been bumped up the same amount of important android versions as us. Theirs just came later and is way higher specced, so they are getting 4.1
Tl, Dr we should be happy with what we have. Like I said earlier if HTC bring it out for us I would definitely get another HTC next.
But the "2011 phones are being looked at" or whatever they said was likely in reference to the rezound, e3d and sensation etc. We are another step down with our single core processor and lower amount of ram (same as sensation, wouldn't be surprised if HTC skip out on the pyramid because of this )
[/RANT] LOL
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Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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nlooooo said:
That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.
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My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.

@di said:
Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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Thanks, took me a while to write that lol
The max a person can be president for is 8 years, which is 2 terms. #justsayin
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don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update

hisname said:
don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update
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Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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markj338 said:
Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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And that's why the operators have way too much power...

the incredible s is a really old device, I don't think it even has official support anymore after the ICS update

I know Mark.
I deliberately wrote that.
Indirectly I was trying to say that getting an update is like Obama fighting for 3rd term.
Which is impossible.
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Splux said:
My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.
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My oppinion is based in what I've tried.

nlooooo said:
My oppinion is based in what I've tried.
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Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?

Splux said:
Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?
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I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.

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I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.
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I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?

Splux said:
I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?
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All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.

nlooooo said:
All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.
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Okay, let's take this from the beginning;
I didn't flash the 3.6 due to the fact that the 3.0 (see, I got it right this time... my memory doesn't handle numbers that well) update was rather sluggish, by using custom ROMs you got away from the sluggish feeling.
And by judging from what I've read about it (excluding you), the stock update seems to be even worse.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797471 <- just a quick search on Google, and I found that. First xda result, and if you want I can back up my statements with more sources.
Sense 2.1 on Froyo was okay, in both stability and smoothness. It felt like it was actually optimized for this device.
Are we going to keep on with this rather pointless discussion?
Obviously our opinions differ, and it will probably just go on like this in eternity.
My point is clear, early versions of Sense are better than the newer ones. The ICS update was probably only rolled out to us because it was released before our 18 months were over...
Any mistakes with numbers and so forth are to be blamed on my own lazyness, since I am way too lazy to check through this post for errors.