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[Q] [REQUEST] HTC Legend Sense 2.0 - Desire HD ROM Port

Hello guys.
I'm currently using HTC Legend and I'm pretty sure it's the best phone I ever had.
But yesterday I met HTC Desire HD. Design of this phone is poor, but... ROM is excellent! Sense 2.0, a bunch of new interesting and useful apps..
So, let's see pros & cons:
- We already have DHD Rom ported to Desire +;
- We have all drivers for legend, based on 2.1 (As I know, there are no 2.2 drivers shared on the internet) +;
- I think there will be a ****load of issues due to incompatible screen resolution on Legend -;
- Perfomance issues. 600mhz 384mb versus 1ghz and 512mb. -;
So... Maybe, it's time to start porting?

As far as I know the DHD ROM ported to Desire is not fully functional and still has issues. Having in mind that and the fact that the Desire is much more closer to DHD hardware-wise, I think it won't be possible to have the Sense 2.0 ROM ported for the Legend any time soon.

I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on it about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).

Adiost said:
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on them about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
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"Not working camera" is really serious issue I think! DHD and Desire both have ARM v7 CPUs, Legend has ARM v6 CPU... quite different architectures.

Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.

just hope it is possible...loved DHD Sense ROm on HD2.....

Maybe it's possible but I doubt if any of the skilled Legend devs will spend time on that...

Adiost said:
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
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Android 2.3 AOSP is open source, HTC Sense is closed source. That means you have to rebuild everything, especially the graphics and CPU.

hmmm...then 2.3 then..

The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.

Sense 2.0 was buggy on the DHD I had one on release and a lot of the features worked only when they wanted to.

alexhtclegend said:
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!

ogo2 said:
I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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In that case I hope a Wildfire 2 is released! The only issue I can think about is the potential lack of a trackball, but that didn't stop the DHD ROM being ported to the original Desire, so...
This is all speculation at the moment anyway until we find out tomorrow whether the Wildfire 2 is real or not at the MWC.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...brings-android-gingerbread-on-a-budget-928653
It's official! The specs look very similar to the Legend - 600mhz processor, same screen, etc.

Now we are waiting for leaked ROM. Maybe we will have 2.3 with Sense 2 soon...

Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?

AngeloLegend said:
Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Probably around April.
Someone has started another Wildfire S thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11373424#post11373424

This certainly are good news! Can't wait to run new sense on ginger legend

I wish that my dreams comes true...=)
Sent from my HTC Legend using Tapatalk

I've seen the new sense rom get ported to the nexus one, desire and more phones. i can't wait till i actually have the newest version of sense AND Gingerbread on my pretty little legend

ICS

Ice cream sandwich looks so nice. I can't wait to have it on my incredible S. What are you most looking forward to having on your device?
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA App

you should check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357579

Yeaaah c'ant wait for ics
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Good, i hope that it will work with BootManager on Trinity Sensation XL 's rom !

Thanks for MIUI chinese version.... it's not AOSP ICS !

I'm looking forward to ICS too

Waiting for ICS too
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

did you guys ever get the Sense 3.0 OTA update?
you have the same specs as our desire S, but we got the update, but you guys never,,,
strange

olyloh6696 said:
did you guys ever get the Sense 3.0 OTA update?
you have the same specs as our desire S, but we got the update, but you guys never,,,
strange
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yes we didn't.
The IS was launched just one month before the Desire S, it did not get Sense 3.0 and has been abandoned by HTC because of which this is probably my last HTC phone.

such a shame as we dont thinki we will get ics anymore too

hussainmushahid said:
yes we didn't.
The IS was launched just one month before the Desire S, it did not get Sense 3.0 and has been abandoned by HTC because of which this is probably my last HTC phone.
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Not sure I get your gripe, the phone is over a year old. It's time for you to take responsibility and flash it.

Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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RicarduZonta said:
Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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Hopefully your sources are reliable enough, because December starts tomorrow
Fingers crossed to get some new official rom for xmas

RicarduZonta said:
Let's forget about ICS for a while. According to our sources we have a sense 3.0 rom with 2.3.5. coming in December. I would be happy to grab that. I have a feeling that we are not gonna get an official ICS rom at all.
Don't want to flash. Been there, done that with my hd2 million times, there were always glitches and stupid bugs. Don't want to waste my time, warranty on custom roms on incS. Does a perfect bugfree out of the box like sense 3.0 rom exist for our device? Love the sense ui, so not big fan of cm.
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Sense made my phone laggy and have terriable battery life. Why would I want that.
Cm7 is more like an iPhone. Battery is better although not quite as good as my friends iPhone 3gs that has 80% battery left at the end of the day on ios 5.

I agree. Why bother with official ROM's when year has passed - no warranty anyway. I get 5 days of battery life with CM7.

weaselEST said:
I agree. Why bother with official ROM's when year has passed - no warranty anyway. I get 5 days of battery life with CM7.
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Sense is only good if you like getting loads of updates from Facebook.

we should be getting ICS update for sure ans some phones listed out by HTC are older versions than ours..also tried the ICS rom by galinet miui but somehow it does not go past the bootup screen..

Using cm nightlies and I don't see what the big deal is about ics... I'm not sure what else I want my phone to do that it doesn't do already. I can phone and text, send picture messages, browse the web, use torrent, watch movies, connect to a printer, feed other devices using the portable hotspot, play snes, nintendo, n64, sega, gameboy, game gear, take photos, record video in hd, use gps and navigation install any app I want and control my bell pvr while I'm taking a crap. What else is it I need?

itsbeertimenow said:
Using cm nightlies and I don't see what the big deal is about ics... I'm not sure what else I want my phone to do that it doesn't do already. I can phone and text, send picture messages, browse the web, use torrent, watch movies, connect to a printer, feed other devices using the portable hotspot, play snes, nintendo, n64, sega, gameboy, game gear, take photos, record video in hd, use gps and navigation install any app I want and control my bell pvr while I'm taking a crap. What else is it I need?
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that's one way of looking at it but i think you are missing the point. from what i've read, ics is supposed to enhance the android experience. in other words, add more polish and improve the look and the feel of the operating system. what you are referring to is hardware capabilities and app functionalities.
if I can have the same functionalities in a more polished package, I would at least want to give it a go.

aaratpatel said:
also tried the ICS rom by galinet miui but somehow it does not go past the bootup screen..
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that's a known bug with the new release. there's a workaround for that: you have to flash the weekly (non-ics) version first, let it boot up, reboot into recovery then flash the ics version on top. or you can just flash the previous release (v1.11.9). it's been flawless for me.

sense 4.0

does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks

ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.

thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues

ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.

question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.

daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.

I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.

dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..

homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0

What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics

Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!

Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.

i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know

Aus_Azn said:
Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP

Is this a good upgrade over the S1?

Is this phone a good upgrade for my friend over his samsung galaxy s1? (i9000)
And would you recommend the stock ICS rom or one of the custom ones? He would like ICS but a stable one. Not too concerned over updates as long as its fast and stable!
edit: and he would not have to pay anything extra. For the price he sells his S1 he would be getting this one as well

yes i came from a captivate to this phone and i loved it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721270 run this rom.It is ics and sense 3.6 and I have not had any problems with it soo far and its stable as hell. I have my vivid overclocked to 1.78 using the kozmik kernel that came with it. Make sure he s offs his vivid though cause its alot easier to install roms and stuff,

If like you said, it won't cost him anything, then yes, it's worth it. I would recommend using wajee's desensed ROM v1.6 with holics 0730 kernel. Wajee's ROM has been 100% for me since I changed kernels. Maps work, MMS works and no stupid HTC sense.
With all that said, I will be jumping ship to the CM 10 ROM once the in call mic issue has been worked out. Good luck.
Sent from my De-Sensed HTC Vivid using xda premium

Agreed once cm10 Mic issues get fixed I'm flashing it

NO
DARK RAIDER FTW lol

Android 4.1 for Incredible S from HTC?Maybe'

Look at this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-publishes-jelly-bean-qa-2012-devices-first-excluding-one-v
Maybe we will have a chance Or at least a port from Desire X!

I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.

Guaranab said:
I surely hope so.
But I'm guessing that it will be a bit late like the ICS update.
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I'm sorry... but... a little bit late ?
A little?
It took them 9 months...
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Like I said in the other thread, there's basically no way we're getting it from HTC...
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse. And now think about them just throwing together another update for us...
I don't think it'll be pretty.
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Splux said:
And think about it, their ICS update basically made the phone worse.
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That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.

JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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TheDareDevil said:
JB with what? Sense 3.6 again? There's no way we're getting Sense 4 or above. And anything below 4 is a massive resource hog
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Jb will come with sense 4+ for all devices.
guys we have seen heaps of updates compared to other phones (nexus doesn't count)
Big updates:
2.2 froyo + sense 2.1
2.3.3 gingerbread + sense 2.1
2.3.5 GB with sense 3.0
Now 4.0 ICS with sense 3.6
The phone was unveiled at MWC 2011 in January iirc. I still remember lying on the floor reading about the incredible S's rotating buttons, fascinated by them. Long time ago. Point is, that our phone is more than 18 months old, nearly 2 years.
That's quite a major bump in both android and sense versions compared with other devices
SGS2 came with 2.3.3 GB
Got 2.3.5
Then got 4.0
Maybe getting 4.1 (higher chance than us)
They have been bumped up the same amount of important android versions as us. Theirs just came later and is way higher specced, so they are getting 4.1
Tl, Dr we should be happy with what we have. Like I said earlier if HTC bring it out for us I would definitely get another HTC next.
But the "2011 phones are being looked at" or whatever they said was likely in reference to the rezound, e3d and sensation etc. We are another step down with our single core processor and lower amount of ram (same as sensation, wouldn't be surprised if HTC skip out on the pyramid because of this )
[/RANT] LOL
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Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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nlooooo said:
That's your oppinion. For me ICS with Sense 3.6 is bullseye.
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My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.

@di said:
Very well said Mark. Even I don't expect any release from them for our phone. Even if they release, at that point of time, apple would have released iPhone 8 in the market with one more row on their screen, Google would have released coffee beans Android version 6.0, barrack Obama would be fighting for 3rd term of President ship
But truth is still we would be hoping, will htc release update for our phone
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Thanks, took me a while to write that lol
The max a person can be president for is 8 years, which is 2 terms. #justsayin
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don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update

hisname said:
don't forget our HTC cousin, Desire HD. Their ICS update was cancelled at the last min, be proud that the incredible s still has a update
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Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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markj338 said:
Yes. Desire z didn't get updated
dinc2, our twin brother is still waiting from Verizon
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And that's why the operators have way too much power...

the incredible s is a really old device, I don't think it even has official support anymore after the ICS update

I know Mark.
I deliberately wrote that.
Indirectly I was trying to say that getting an update is like Obama fighting for 3rd term.
Which is impossible.
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Splux said:
My opinion is based on what I've read.
You seems to be the only one so far who actually thinks it is good. Good for you.
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My oppinion is based in what I've tried.

nlooooo said:
My oppinion is based in what I've tried.
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Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?

Splux said:
Just one question, are you really using the stock update from HTC?
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I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.

nlooooo said:
I was using for some time, but I went to ARHD only because it's deodexed (I can use a few mods) and doesn't depend on lib partition (easier backup). As far as I'm concerned if was able to do all that on stock update I wouldn't have change it. I don't know why are you so suprised, I'm not a fan of AOSP roms (MIUI maybe, was using it for some time on Desire), Sense 4.0 looks like a child comic book to me, and stock ICS with Sense 3.6 looks preety good to me.
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I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?

Splux said:
I was talking about the stock HTC update, most other Sense-ROMs are kinda smooth.
It's the stock ROM from HTC that's just pure rubbish. And has been since 3.5 update... But I gotta admit, I did like Sense when I bought this phone and it was Sense 2.1... then it has only gotten worse, and the ICS update I didn't even care to try, and from reading the General section here I think I made the right choice.
Anyway, I still stand by my opinion: if HTC release a JB update it'll probably be something rushed together to make us quiet. Normal users could probably not care less.
And... doesn't 4.1 feel a bit old now?
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All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.

nlooooo said:
All Sense 3.6 roms are made from stock rom as a base with minor tweaks. And of course, as many others, you're talking about something that you haven't even tried.
I also doesn't know when IncS have got Sense 3.5 update. As far as I know the last GB update was with Sense 3.0, so you're talking about something you don't know, again.
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Okay, let's take this from the beginning;
I didn't flash the 3.6 due to the fact that the 3.0 (see, I got it right this time... my memory doesn't handle numbers that well) update was rather sluggish, by using custom ROMs you got away from the sluggish feeling.
And by judging from what I've read about it (excluding you), the stock update seems to be even worse.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797471 <- just a quick search on Google, and I found that. First xda result, and if you want I can back up my statements with more sources.
Sense 2.1 on Froyo was okay, in both stability and smoothness. It felt like it was actually optimized for this device.
Are we going to keep on with this rather pointless discussion?
Obviously our opinions differ, and it will probably just go on like this in eternity.
My point is clear, early versions of Sense are better than the newer ones. The ICS update was probably only rolled out to us because it was released before our 18 months were over...
Any mistakes with numbers and so forth are to be blamed on my own lazyness, since I am way too lazy to check through this post for errors.