Can the fourm name be changed to include all the 3 variations
VIVID/RAIDER/HOLIDAY.
Not every one knows VIVID is same as Raider.
I'd say if anything, rename it Holiday
Anyone who would be here should know the Raider and Vivid are the Holiday
Don't they all have different firmware / radios? If that's the case then this should stay the Vivid forum and the Holiday and Raider should have their own forumns (just like their were an Inspire and a Desire forum).
Kernel Version for the Vivid:
2.6.35.13-gc1166ee
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 4 19:28:38 CST 2011
Baseband Version for the Vivid:
1.11.1020.03_30.77.551061.02L
Can someone confirm the Holiday and Raider have the same radios and firmware? Also please correct me if I wrong.
I am assuming here that the Raider does have different Radios as it is a Canadian Device. The Holiday is just the Code Name that HTC named this device and as far as I know has no bearing on either unless it was Named the Holiday in the foreign market over seas.
Per HTC, Vivid is the Holiday:
HTC [email protected] to me
show details 2:29 PM (5 hours ago)
Dear Mike,
I understand you would like more information about your device. I know how important it is for you to receive correct information about your device and I will be happy to assist you.
When you go to HTCsense.com, the HTC Vivid (also known as the HTC Holiday) is not listed with the supported devices. Therefore, the device does not support HTCsense.com. I do apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
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Sincerely,
Kathleen
HTC
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wmg316 said:
Per HTC, Vivid is the Holiday:
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Did that person mean HTCdev because I have already set up my HTCSense on this phone.
malickie said:
Did that person mean HTCdev because I have already set up my HTCSense on this phone.
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I was here: https://www.htcsense.com/en_US/#account/create to register and did not see the "Vivid" listed in the "select your device" section, so I emailed HTC to ask about registering on HTCSense.com.
What device did you select?
dusty2422 said:
Don't they all have different firmware / radios? If that's the case then this should stay the Vivid forum and the Holiday and Raider should have their own forumns (just like their were an Inspire and a Desire forum).
Kernel Version for the Vivid:
2.6.35.13-gc1166ee
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 4 19:28:38 CST 2011
Baseband Version for the Vivid:
1.11.1020.03_30.77.551061.02L
Can someone confirm the Holiday and Raider have the same radios and firmware? Also please correct me if I wrong.
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Weren't the inspire & desire actually different devices, though? I had a Hero a while back, and there were a bunch of worldwide variants, but they were all still Hero's, with the exception of the Droid Eris. It actually had a different code name and was a different device, even though it was basically a variant of the Hero. Therefore, the Droid Eris was the only one to have its own forum. Seems to me that at least the Canadian and American version are the same phone, and sounds like the Korean version is also a Holiday, so the same phone, too.
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Weren't the inspire & desire actually different devices, though? I had a Hero a while back, and there were a bunch of worldwide variants, but they were all still Hero's, with the exception of the Droid Eris. It actually had a different code name and was a different device, even though it was basically a variant of the Hero. Therefore, the Droid Eris was the only one to have its own forum. Seems to me that at least the Canadian and American version are the same phone, and sounds like the Korean version is also a Holiday, so the same phone, too.
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I agree. Back in the old days on these forums it seemed as if all sections were listed by the "code" name and maybe separated within by gsm/cdma
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I was here: https://www.htcsense.com/en_US/#account/create to register and did not see the "Vivid" listed in the "select your device" section, so I emailed HTC to ask about registering on HTCSense.com.
What device did you select?
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I just registered the device straight from the phone itself and it worked fine.
Related
The same message as left on the rootzwiki AOSP thread:
HTC isn't going to be able to help if they don't know the problem (and don't assume that they do).
Everyone interested in helping who can't develop would benefit from contacting HTC on their website's contact form (which I can't link to xD) and let them know our position and why we want AOSP.
It is really easy and quick to do, and you have no reason not to if you want the current hurdles overcome.
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They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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CAF has LTE support and AOSP is only meant to build for their devices. All LTE devices I have but Holiday have aosp fully functional. The issue are security checks put in by HTC on this device.
Edit: jewel has same checks as well as some other HTC 8960 devices, but they have alsa source so it's moot.
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Copy pasting and editing my response from over there:
They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
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I agree with what you're saying, and things only look worse for the future. Samsung is the next greatest thing, but the Verizon GSIII got locked down (yes, it's been cracked already, but still). It'd be ignorant to think Samsung wouldn't start to lock down on other carriers. Where do we go? LG?
pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408331,00.asp
"In response to a question from Facebook user Jamie Chan, HTC said it is still working on readying updates, and expects to issue them by the end of August for all devices that have previously been announced.
Those phones still awaiting the ICS update include the Droid Incredible 2 , the HTC Desire S, Desire HD, EVO 4G+, Incredible S, Sensation, Sensation XE, Sensation XL, Rhyme, Thunderbolt, and Velocity."
Wooo! OTA coming for us noobs! They say August but Im guessing October
ShishkaBerry said:
pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408331,00.asp
"In response to a question from Facebook user Jamie Chan, HTC said it is still working on readying updates, and expects to issue them by the end of August for all devices that have previously been announced.
Those phones still awaiting the ICS update include the Droid Incredible 2 , the HTC Desire S, Desire HD, EVO 4G+, Incredible S, Sensation, Sensation XE, Sensation XL, Rhyme, Thunderbolt, and Velocity."
Wooo! OTA coming for us noobs! They say August but Im guessing October
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OTA is already out for people in other countries. its just australia that hasn't got it while optus put their **** on it
by new update can we get sense 4.0 and what means by ota sorry for simple questions because i dont know simple things
Ramesh kumar 1987 said:
by new update can we get sense 4.0 and what means by ota sorry for simple questions because i dont know simple things
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No, it's Sense 3.6. OTA means Over-The-Air which means you can update your phone without wiping. It's not the whole ROM, It's just a bunch of new files. I hope you get that despite my bad explanation
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No, it's Sense 3.6. OTA means Over-The-Air which means you can update your phone without wiping. It's not the whole ROM, It's just a bunch of new files. I hope you get that despite my bad explanation
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got it thanks that means htc will never release sence 4.0 for our device
i have a great doubt while new htc mobiles like one v desire c,v are having the same hardware specification why they are not releasing for us
Ramesh kumar 1987 said:
got it thanks that means htc will never release sence 4.0 for our device
i have a great doubt while new htc mobiles like one v desire c,v are having the same hardware specification why they are not releasing for us
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If HTC keep upgrading us to the latest versions of sense/android, we will have no reason to upgrade to a newer phone
Also, they are not making any money on these upgrades, just keeping us happy who have bought the phone a year or so ago
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If HTC keep upgrading us to the latest versions of sense/android, we will have no reason to upgrade to a newer phone
Also, they are not making any money on these upgrades, just keeping us happy who have bought the phone a year or so ago
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so they want us to always buy a new product they launches its totally unfair
Ramesh kumar 1987 said:
so they want us to always buy a new product they launches its totally unfair
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That's business for you mate
The market is competitive, especially with Sony and Samsung putting out such quality hardware, they are beating HTC who used to be on top in terms of hardware
markj338 said:
That's business for you mate
The market is competitive, especially with Sony and Samsung putting out such quality hardware, they are beating HTC who used to be on top in terms of hardware
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but still i love htc products they have great looks and specialy their sense love it
Will there be any more updates or this is it?
The devs are 2 steps ahead, a very alpha build of JB has just hit the development forum!
naathaanb96 said:
OTA is already out for people in other countries. its just australia that hasn't got it while optus put their **** on it
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Nowhere to be found in Canada either.
Oh well. I have my HD Revolution, so Bell's lack of updating isn't an issue for me.
Hi
I have been away from HTC with my last two phones. Do folks find that HTCDEV unlock provides all that is needed or will devs still be trying to S-Off the One?
globalm said:
Hi
I have been away from HTC with my last two phones. Do folks find that HTCDEV unlock provides all that is needed or will devs still be trying to S-Off the One?
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S-off will need to be figured out by developers. HTC's unlock only unlocks the bootloader and maintains S-On.
globalm said:
Hi
I have been away from HTC with my last two phones. Do folks find that HTCDEV unlock provides all that is needed or will devs still be trying to S-Off the One?
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I'll tell you straight forward.
Nope, not from htc
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Not from HTC. Not even the developer edition of this device will have it. You need to rely on devs for that. The HTC one s got S-off 7-8 months after its release. HTC devices are known to have a rather lack luster developer basis.
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The HTC evo 4g lte go s off in a month or so after release. The rest of the one x series took longer since it was more difficult to s off a device without sd support; however, one x did eventually get s off as well as the DNA (a few months after release). with that said, those developers now know how to approach a Qualcomm device without external sd support. So its just a matter of time. Give it about a month or so after the device has released in the major markets.
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The HTC evo 4g lte go s off in a month or so after release. The rest of the one x series took longer since it was more difficult to s off a device without sd support; however, one x did eventually get s off as well as the DNA (a few months after release). with that said, those developers now know how to approach a Qualcomm device without external sd support. So its just a matter of time. Give it about a month or so after the device has released in the major markets.
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I just wanted to add that with the hboot 1.12, the first one when htc evo lte came out, we can flash any kernel or rom just being htc dev unlocked only. We did s-off just future prove the device. I am sure there are some people still now on hboot 1.12 who flash roms and kernels, and aren't s-off.
Sent from my lair.
Not really a fact of "it took nine months" or whatever. When the exploit/method was discovered by the geniuses behind it, it was used on nearly all the HTC devices of the time that are similar: One X S4, One S, DNA, etc
Its just a matter of developing the exploit and being able to use it properly in the public. Although I love having S-off on my phone now, I am prepared to wait a bit before unlocking my bootloader/performing s-off
Another thing to note is that according to jcase's tweet a month or so ago the One is CID write protected :/
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Another thing to note is that according to jcase's tweet a month or so ago the One is CID write protected :/
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What does that mean in relation to custom ROM and kernels development?
the s4 have the same processor, soo problably we will get this device s-off, plus its a qualquom processor, its more easy then tegra processor
i looked at the video for s-off for the htc one x, one s, Dna... etc & they require SuperCid, (unless there's other ways that don't need it). I'm assuming Cid being write protected means 'impossible' for superCid on the One?
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More importantly, Will it blend?
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More importantly, Will it blend?
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Blend?..
Also if a sim free handset isnt tied to any network (sim free) what c. i. d does it have to begin with?
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What does that mean in relation to custom ROM and kernels development?
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Nothing unless some devs decide to boycot because of the bootloader unlock not being very unlocky
It will be much harder with s-on to update firmware and stuff though, as well has having to flash boot.img manually with every rom/kernel install (unless there is dumblock)
This would be an absolute pain with kernels packaged as a zimage (there are repackers available for the HOX but still)
As much as I want a One every time I read a review, I am in no rush to upgrade from my S-On One X this time around until this is done, the amount of **** I have to do just to update a ROM that is updated daily is a complete pain.
markj338 said:
Nothing unless some devs decide to boycot because of the bootloader unlock not being very unlocky
It will be much harder with s-on to update firmware and stuff though, as well has having to flash boot.img manually with every rom/kernel install (unless there is dumblock)
This would be an absolute pain with kernels packaged as a zimage (there are repackers available for the HOX but still)
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Actually xhausx has a script to incorporate into updater-script thaf can flash the boot.img automatically for you on ROM install. No need for seperate flash anymore.
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DJ 1 said:
Blend?..
Also if a sim free handset isnt tied to any network (sim free) what c. i. d does it have to begin with?
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Yes blend! Look here
I said never again after the HTC One X debacle and I meant it - but not so much for the inconvenience, for me its the principle.
I shall wait to see how it pans out - but without s-off I'm gonna try the S4 I think. Been loyal to HTC a long time, but they've changed and maybe its time for a change for me.
That said hopefully this will be resolved quickly with the Qualcom chipset.
Thinking the same, but I won't buy an S4.
I will stick with my perfectly capable One X.
SteelH said:
Sayonara Samsung fanboy!
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Ha. Very funny.
I did love my Q1Ultra once. A lot has changed in the arena since then. Does that count?
And maybe if there was more devving on the Asus Padfone2?
Staying on topic though. Very hopeful someone will s-off this qualcom device so we can all play nicely again on a flag ship HTC.
I have the rogers HTC one. Which forum do I use?
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x2 I also have a Rogers version and I don't know which forum to use. I know with previous phones from Rogers, I would use the at&t forum of the same device, but with the HTC One, it seems like some people are using this forum to flash roms
So I'm confused
There was a chart somewhere that broke down which were the same device. I remember on that list the T-Mobile(US), International, AT&T, and Dev were the same model just different firmwares. The rest I don't remember. I saw it in these forums somewhere.
In terms of what forum you should use, it shouldn't matter on GSM devices, from my understanding. The firmware is cross-compatible even though the radios support different bands.
But don't take my word for it!!! Someone smarter than me will hopefully confirm.
Tidbits said:
There was a chart somewhere that broke down which were the same device. I remember on that list the T-Mobile(US), International, AT&T, and Dev were the same model just different firmwares. The rest I don't remember. I saw it in these forums somewhere.
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I think you are talking about HTC One variants [U/UL/WL] which shows the differences among the M7 variants.
I believe the Rogers and ATT versions are extremely similar. I have the ATT version and have been flashing the International roms without issue.
Marcismo55 said:
I think you are talking about HTC One variants [U/UL/WL] which shows the differences among the M7 variants.
I believe the Rogers and ATT versions are extremely similar. I have the ATT version and have been flashing the International roms without issue.
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Sorry I have a stupid question. Does Android Revolution HD count as an Int Rom?
Marcismo55 said:
I think you are talking about HTC One variants [U/UL/WL] which shows the differences among the M7 variants.
I believe the Rogers and ATT versions are extremely similar. I have the ATT version and have been flashing the International roms without issue.
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That's the one I saw.
mf1tym said:
Sorry I have a stupid question. Does Android Revolution HD count as an Int Rom?
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Yes, although mike1986 did make arrangements for the variants during the install of the Rom within Aroma Installer.
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thanks for the answers everyone
On Sprint's Community page they posted this https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/914718#914718
12/17/14 - HTC Desire 510 Software Update - 1.47.652.1
Community_Robby
Sprint Admin
Community_Robby Dec 17, 2014 9:49 AM
HTC Desire 510 Software Update - 1.47.652.1
This Software Enhancement provides the following enhancements / improvements for the HTC Desire 510:
Sprint Application updates:
Sprint Zone
Mobile ID
Visual Voicemail
Lumen Toolbar – (Lollipop MU following in 2015 This will be removed)
This update will also provide a fix to address the following post launch issue:
Some users may see a persistent notification message referring to a SMITH tool expiration – logging tool for HTC. This notification has zero impact on the usability of the device, but the message is confusing to the customer. This message will no longer be displayed with this MR
Software version is 1.47.652.1
This update is rolled out in batches
Refer to the Sprint HTC Desire 510 Software Update in Support for install instructions
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Notice where it lists Lumen Toolbar it says (Lollipop MU following in 2015 This will be removed)
So Lumen Toolbar is no more following the Lollipop Material Update? (not sure what MU stands for but this is my guess)
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Lollipop on desire 510
Not sure if this belongs here, but I accidentally posted it here so I apologize to the mod who has to move it.
I've found a couple links online with steps for installing lollipop on the desire 510. They reference the XDA forums but I cannot find any such thread. Can anyone tell me if this is true/works? I'm eager to get lollipop and don't want to wait for HTC to release if I don't have to, lol.
Relevant info:
" Upgrade/Update HTC Desire 510 to 5.0 Lollipop
I rewrite this tutorial from forum.xda-developers.com :
The users of HTC Desire 510 can now update their handsets to Android 5.0 Lollipop using custom ROM. The new Android 5.0 Lollipop comes with many new features ..."
Mod edit: Link removed
Thanks in advance to anyone able to shed some light on the situation.
Sent from my HTC Desire 510 using XDA Free mobile app
Nope
No, man. It's false. Currently, the only ROMs that are available for this device are NonSense, RevMod, & CM11, and even CM is in an alpha state. Lollipop hasn't arrived for this device yet.
Thanks, figured it was too good to be true.
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So are there any lollipop updates for HTC 510? This evening I was notified of an update, I tried but that wasnt this, just minor update with barely anything to offer...
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
So are there any lollipop updates for HTC 510? This evening I was notified of an update, I tried but that wasnt this, just minor update with barely anything to offer...
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There was a leaked schedule saying which and when HTC phones will receive the lollipop update (or at least sense 7). It said the 510 will get it sometime around April. If not, most likely May or June.
Teet1 said:
There was a leaked schedule saying which and when HTC phones will receive the lollipop update (or at least sense 7). It said the 510 will get it sometime around April. If not, most likely May or June.
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I've saw more than a few that had it scheduled for much later in the year, in the 4th quarter. hmmm..
LarryBoyG said:
I've saw more than a few that had it scheduled for much later in the year, in the 4th quarter. hmmm..
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that what I saw to 4th quarter. but hay who really knows but htc corp............
the link f... too many peolpe phone !!!
the link suck
It's a scam. You look at it and the 3 links all require you to sign up for a bogus product and by the look off it they charge you a lot for nothing.
If the devs here haven't succeeded yet why would we even think this crowd have done it 6 months ago
Yeah wouldn't trust that page myself. For starters they claim it's a lollipop ROM for the desire 510 but it doesn't exist according to htc's update page, second they claim they had re written a guide from here on xda, I don't recall ever seeing a guide about upgrading this device to lollipop anywhere, third they show screen shots of an aosp styled lollipop but this is an htc device which would have (most likely) sense 7 so either the screen shots are of a generic lollipop or just wrong, fourth the ROM size, multiple parts totaling nearly a gigabyte in size. Assuming the screen shots are correct there is no reason why the ROM should be that large.
Now as far as lollipop for our device and it's availability I did find a website which (among other info) states the following:
The Rest Of HTC's Stable...
“The Android Lollipop update looks as if it will spread throughout 2015,” reports Phone Probe, “with the higher-end devices receiving the update in the first half of the year. Of those expected to get the Lollipop treatment in Q1 of 2015 are the HTC One M8 and the HTC One M7. As expected, they get the update first.”
Q2 of 2015: One E8, Desire EYE, One M8 EYE, Butterfly 2.
Q3 of 2015: One Max, M7 Dual SIM, Desire 816, Desire 820u, One M8 Mini, One E8 China, One M8 EYE China.
Q4 of 2015: Desire 510, 610, 820s, and One Mini.
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So ladies and gentlemen if THIS is correct then we are looking at a September to December time frame.
loloipop htc desire510
we need lolipop for desire 510
it is august now... no update to loliipop for the desire 510...
Zubagy said:
it is august now... no update to loliipop for the desire 510...
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If you want lollipop for the desire people are making roms for it now.Go try cm12.1 For the desire 510 cause right now it's the only one available until others come out.
cm.12 g
junoir0c1 said:
If you want lollipop for the desire people are making roms for it now.Go try cm12.1 For the desire 510 cause right now it's the only one available until others come out.
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installing cm.12.1 will also install lollipop rom? or just saying if we want cm 12 which is for lollipop? it confuses me sorry
Cm12.1 is lollipop
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What I find funny is that Marshmallow will be out and popular before this phone even sees Lollipop. HTC's done it again.
dermo529 said:
What I find funny is that Marshmallow will be out and popular before this phone even sees Lollipop. HTC's done it again.
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This phone has seen Lollipop thanks to @r3pwn.. You just don't know how to install it.
HTC has already said that the Desire 510 won't be getting Lollipop.
HTC has already said that the desire won't be getting Lollipop:
PhoneNews .com / htc-confirms-desire-510-sprint-virgin-models-wont-get-lollipop-30689
(I'm sorry I can't post an outside link yet.)
So our only hope, as far as I've seen, so far is CM12 which is being worked on by r3pwn and rbheromax. Personally I'm watching with baited breath and occasionally testing what they have already released.