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Official Android 4.2 discussion thread(yes it's still called Jellybean)

Now we now with the arrival of the Nexus 4 also comes the newest android version, 4.2. Lets take a look at some of the key aspects/improvements google has made.
Here is a list of changes:
Main features:
Sphere camera
Multiple user profiles
Google Now updated
Quick settings
Gesture typing
Wireless TV Integration
Lockscreen widgets
Daydream screensaver
Pinch to zoom in Gmail
Triple tap to zoom the whole homescreen
Speech output
Gesture mode navigation
Credit to Prawesome here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962397
We know the specs of the phone itself but here are some more links with more information regarding Android 4.2:
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_42_is_out_google_keeps_the_jelly_bean_name-news-5016.php
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-bumps-android-to-4-2-keeps-jelly-bean-moniker/
About the improved camera features:http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/android-photo-sphere-panorama-google/?icid=m_eng_latest_art

System/app Dump?
Has anyone a copy of the 4.2 system apps? I would love to install some like the new keyboard, and I'm sure many others would love it too!

Quick Settings = FINALLY.
This is the one thing I could never live without from AOKP. I might actually not even need a custom ROM this time. I really like their implementation of it too.

I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better

man i was looking forward to the "project roadrunner" :/ sounded like an awesome idea/concept. still I'm happy with 4.2
loving the multi user and photo sphere(take that apple!)

Michealtbh said:
I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better
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I wouldn't be able to live my life without Swype. It makes me wonder how I went through life typing one letter at a time But seriously, I really hope it performs better than Swype.
@knolly I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've always wanted that on a phone's stock ROM. After playing around with custom ROMs on my S2, I'm ready to just jump on a Nexus and stay on whatever Google decides to churn out right then and there instead of having to wait for custom ROMs to come just to avoid the poop that Samsung/AT&T likes to put on the builds.

Looks great, it looks like its consolidating jelly bean with all the features a big OS update needs
I wish for something like the leeks said where you could remove the OEM overlay (sense, touchwiz)

Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.

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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.
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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices

any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash

raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.

bozzykid said:
I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.
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To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.

jonesin said:
To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.
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It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.

ctfrommn said:
It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.
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I've got an overclocked G'nex on JB, 1.35 ghz dual core omap 4410? I would think that should do the trick but no...

You're the first I've ever heard say that about a galaxy nexus.
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It's not to any extent unusable or "slow" but my native browser just rips! Idk maybe its psychological... the biggest place that ive noticed it is not in page renders but in actual usability of the page. What I mean is that they seam to render in about the same time=fast but on chrome I'm unable to selct links and there is usually some delay before I can scroll around or zoom where as on the native browser I can be halfway through a page load and already selcting another link...

eep2378 said:
Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices
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Yep...Chrome isn't nearly as fast as it was on PC..
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:

I mostly prefer the stock browser myself, still use flash quite a bit (though i guess that it will probably be somewhat if not entirely broken on 4.2/Nexus 4).
But for other tasks i've preferred Chrome, especially with the syncing of pages and the fact it seems to handle pages much better than the stock browser did, especially in regards to forum attachements, download sites, etc.

jonesin said:
any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash
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I am guessing the source will be released the same day as the phone ships. That's how it has worked in the past, isn't it ?
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Browser pinch to zoom lag?And do you always need to resize when loading a webpage?

Hello there does the Browser pinch to zoom lag?And do you always need to resize when loading a webpage?
See below what i mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfzNMLDX7s
Please let me know..

You can turn off the auto-resize in browser settings.

q173242 said:
You can turn off the auto-resize in browser settings.
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Thx for your reply..
Thats great and what about the pinch to zoom lag?

I personally never had any pinch-to-zoom lag on my HTC One.
My personal thought about browsing experience is, that the HTC One feels better and faster when surfing the web. I had both the iPhone 5 and the Xperia Z and they didn't do as well as the HTC One did - at least in my opinion. The XZ generally felt more laggy in every-day use.

q173242 said:
I personally never had any pinch-to-zoom lag on my HTC One.
My personal thought about browsing experience is, that the HTC One feels better and faster when surfing the web. I had both the iPhone 5 and the Xperia Z and they didn't do as well as the HTC One did - at least in my opinion.
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Thx man
But its strange that you can see the lag on some videos..
Maybe if i get the phone i need to flash a custom rom then..

Most YT videos of the HTC One where also made with pre-production firmware on the phone - the shipped phones already had another firmware (for example the white-balance-bug was in pre-production FW, but gone on the retail devices). That's also a reason, why many reviewers of the phone corrected their first impressions on the camera.
I still think, the One got the best browsing experience. Tested with stock browser and Chrome (don't have much faith in the other browsers out there to take full advantage of the phones capabilities)

q173242 said:
Most YT videos of the HTC One where also made with pre-production firmware on the phone - the shipped phones already had another firmware (for example the white-balance-bug was in pre-production FW, but gone on the retail devices). That's also a reason, why many reviewers of the phone corrected their first impressions on the camera.
I still think, the One got the best browsing experience. Tested with stock browser and Chrome (don't have much faith in the other browsers out there to take full advantage of the phones capabilities)
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great thx....:good:

I get no lag. I get horrible lag when using the n4 but not from this phone.
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Browser always refreshing?

I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?

No such problem with my HTC One. Multitasked between apps and browser, different tabs stayed put(no auto-refreshing).

bengadget said:
I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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I would like to know the same..
EDIT: nvm

bengadget said:
I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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Yes. Me.

Shasarak said:
Yes. Me.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.

bengadget said:
What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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It does it a LOT on a dating site that I use, OKCupid (when accessing the desktop version of the site). I think it may possibly be related to the number of tabs one has open, as well. But certainly it's very annoying. I sometimes do a bit of browsing on London Underground trains. (You get about 20 seconds of wifi when the train is in a station!) What I'd like to be able to do is load up multiple pages in different tabs (each one opened as a new background tab) while the connection is up and then read them in the tunnels between stations; but it insists on refreshing each tab as you go back to it, and, as there's no connection in the tunnel, you can't actually read the page, even though it's fully downloaded and should be cached.

It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.

soapbubble said:
It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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But that doesn't happen on my Chrome on my Note II... ever! Even if I press a link by mistake I can press back and it will be stored in cache, this is probably an HTC problem then, anyone else having this issue?

Nope. Not a problem for me. Always going back and forth on my browser. No issue there
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I agree. I can't remember if it's because I swipe it away with the recent apps button.
But sometimes the browser panics on me and closes on it's own.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.

Vincent Law said:
This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.

Tsukurimashou said:
Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.

Vincent Law said:
No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC

darkgoon3r96 said:
Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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A preference that had no influence apparently, since all it takes is a person with a task manager to confirm what I said was true.

This happens on my Nexus 4. Nothing new to see.

Vincent Law said:
This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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greengoldmello said:
This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.

Vincent Law said:
It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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greengoldmello said:
See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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Chrome doesn't have any scrolling lag for me on the One.

Chrome perform really inconsistently on 4.4.2 Kit Kat

My N5 is on stock 4.4.2,
Having read that the Nexus 5 CPU throttle back when it hit it's preset temperature to prevent overheating (while charging or running intensive apps) generally doesn't affect much of the UI, most apps and gaming (still buttery smooth) but the throttling had affect Chrome so badly that it's absurb !!
When I'm charging, web pages takes ages to load on HSPA+ and never ever loads completely, the blue loading bar in Chrome will hang at about 9/10 of it's way thou page are readable but images don't load up. Pinch zoom and kinetic scrolling stutter, couple with Chrome hang for a good 2 sec before resuming itself. Web pages like the Verge, dpreview, gsmarena and xda forum can never load up completely and I'm getting incomplete texts and forget about images !!
I've initially though it's the N5's cell signal problems but atlas I downloaded Dolphin Browser, I can full load all the above mentioned web pages in about 7 - 10 sec. I think Google should really further optimize Chrome for upcoming Kit Kat updates, If they can make Chrome blazing fast on a x86-64 PC why not Android ?
I'll be sticking with Dolphin Browser for a while thou until 4.4.3, finger cross then
Anybody experience this problem too?

Weird this doesn't happen on
my nexus 5
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markdapimp said:
Weird this doesn't happen on
my nexus 5
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Maybe I should give Chrome a 'good cleaning' inside via clear cache and app datas

Or reinstall it
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I've noticed Chrome using much more battery then any other browser I've tried. Not sure exactly why I've since switched to Firefox which syncs with my desktop browser.

bblzd said:
I've noticed Chrome using much more battery then any other browser I've tried. Not sure exactly why I've since switched to Firefox which syncs with my desktop browser.
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Exactly... chewing up to about 12% of juice during my N5 9hrs usage time, forget to took a screen shot thou...

Just today I was also wondering why chrome is so slow. Slow to load and really bad scroll stutter. My GS2 with CM10.1 browser so much better. How can that be?
But lots of people reporting no problems with chrome. Would love to know what I should be doing differently.

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Just today I was also wondering why chrome is so slow. Slow to load and really bad scroll stutter. My GS2 with CM10.1 browser so much better. How can that be?
But lots of people reporting no problems with chrome. Would love to know what I should be doing differently.
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Short answer, Chrome sucks. First thing I did when I got my N5 was root it, install Titanium backup and freeze Chrome. I use Dolphin and Next for now. I do notice that in general, the browsing experience has gotten worse going from 4.3 to 4.4. Hopefully google will address this going forward.

LOL to root to freez chrome ?
just use the disable functionthat come with android

Yandvoiris said:
LOL to root to freez chrome ?
just use the disable functionthat come with android
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Was a slight exaggeration, I flashed kernel trinity and rastakat before I froze Chrome

Shouldn't use dolphin. They have some serious privacy violations with all their apps. I recommend Firefox, Chrome, Opera or Naked Browser. Chrome does suck though IMO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529
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After clearing cache and app datas, Chrome run like brand new again thou for less then 10 over web pages. It begin to rear it's ugly head again...
Looks like just have to wait for the next 4.4.3 again before I'm going back to Chrome... sigh.

Chrome has been my go-to browser since the galaxy nexus days, never had a problem. It's the only browser I'll use. JMO

jlevy73 said:
Short answer, Chrome sucks. First thing I did when I got my N5 was root it, install Titanium backup and freeze Chrome. I use Dolphin and Next for now. I do notice that in general, the browsing experience has gotten worse going from 4.3 to 4.4. Hopefully google will address this going forward.
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Yup Chrome performed wonderfully on my 2 yrs old Gnex with 4.3, maybe the codes are not yet fully optimised for 4.4... bummer.

1stx2 said:
Chrome has been my go-to browser since the galaxy nexus days, never had a problem. It's the only browser I'll use. JMO
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Happy for you, are you on LTE? because I've only HSPA+ and Chrome loads painfully slow...:crying:

stelv said:
Shouldn't use dolphin. They have some serious privacy violations with all their apps. I recommend Firefox, Chrome, Opera or Naked Browser. Chrome does suck though IMO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529
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But dolphin has flash support

I think Dolphin's security exploit had been fixed after ver 7
check out their blog...
http://dolphin.com/webzine-does-not-store-user-data/

You really trust the people at Dolphin. Its up to you guys. I personally don't like handing over my private data to some untrustworthy company in another country. Check the privacy thread out. Dolphin Zero still has privacy issues too.
I think Firefox supports flash and you can always sideload it too.
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[Q] S6 Edge Laggy?

Hi all,
Is it just me or is this phone laggy/choppy while browsing, especially in the XDA website?
I'm coming from an m8 which seemed a lot smoother than touchwiz. Any tips on how to smooth this out? Thanks

I've been doing many tests actually trying to force it to lag. So, far I've been unsuccessful in the challenges.
Can you give specifics on what it's doing? Is it just when browsing the Web? Or also seen laggy when browsing around the screens? Are other apps laggy or do they seem fine?

Seems like its more with browsing, it can be very choppy at times. The apps seem fine.

Dude, either your the most critical human on the planet , or you have a bad unit. Thete is not 1 flagship in u.s. that I haven't owned, and by FAR this is the smoothest and most exes prion yer

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Seems like its more with browsing, it can be very choppy at times. The apps seem fine.
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Have you tried using different browsers? I haven't had any issues so far with browsing using the stock browser. Granted Verizon took the Samsung browser away and a lot of people seem upset by this.
Try downloading different browsers and see if there's any difference. If not I'd reset and if still no dice return it.

If there is a specific website they is laggy you may want to mention it so others can check.
For instance, cnn.com seems to always be a little crappy on chrome mobile for me. Including on this phone.

I don't get lag or choppiness when on the TouchWiz home. however, I noticed it gets a little choppy when I use the Google home launcher instead.
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