Hi Guys,
I've got a Droid 3 on 2.3.4, rooted and bloat apps froze with Ti backup pro. I'm concerned that a later ota update may auto install and mess up the phone due to the apps being froze. Is there a way to stop automatic ota updates?
Is this something to worry about at all? Can an ota mess up my phone if it installs with apps froze?
Note: nothing has been deleted, just froze.
i dont think having apps frozen would do much, and if you dont want an ota update,i cant really help with that
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Thanks for the reply stumpyz9. I was under the impression that an ota with stock apps deleted could brick the phone, but I could find any solid info about ota with frozen apps. I just wanted to be sure before another update comes around. Don't want to kill my phone
Typically to get OTA updates, you have to manually check for updates. Even if an update appears as a notification, you still will have to accept it, it will not auto-update. Final point is that unless you have all stock apps the update will fail and not install. Frozen apps will cause an update to fail, I haven't heard of anyone bricking their phone this way. Either way you should be fine.
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I have my D4 with the previous update, Gingerbread 2.3.6 (...219). It is rooted and I have a few of the pre-loaded apps frozen.
What should I do before allowing the new OTA update to ICS?
Should I leave it rooted? Should I "hide" root? Should I unroot (how)? Does it matter?
Should I unfreeze the apps? Leave them frozen? Doesn't matter because they will all be replaced/overwritten?
Should I uninstall Superuser and Busybox?
After the OTA update is complete, will I have to re-root? Is this what I should use, Droid 4 Utility Updated ?
Any other hints, suggestions, cautions, or problems from those who already did the official ICS update?
If you installed and used safestrap before, you will need to switch back to the original (unsafe) system, uninstall it, and restore the original contents of /preinstall. You should unroot after that. You can save root with OTA rootkeeper. Make sure you have the updated su binary, since the old binary won't run on ICS.
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I generally find it easier to just flash the system and preinstall images from the FXZ with fastboot rather than trying to undo any changes I have made and then the update always works.
Also, preserving root is unnecessary because the RazrEdge ICS exploit works fine to root any of the updates.
If you use OTARootkeeper be sure to Temp Unroot first or the update will fail.
You will need to enable all the apps in /system and revert any changes you made in /system. The update scans /system and compares it to things within the update.
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does anyone have all the original apps? i re-installed some i guess for the last ota update after i failed many times and finally got it to work. now i have the soak test and it keeps failing, so i'm assuming i'm missing something. i've removed everything that requires root just to be sure and it still fails.
I'm stock rooted 6.13.215.XT894 and I can't seem to get the 219 update to apply. Forum search didn't seem to help. I've tried Voodoo Rootkeeper, but it doesn't seem to help. Nothing else on here (no Titanium, Safestrap, etc.). Am I crazy?
rorytmeadows said:
I'm stock rooted 6.13.215.XT894 and I can't seem to get the 219 update to apply. Forum search didn't seem to help. I've tried Voodoo Rootkeeper, but it doesn't seem to help. Nothing else on here (no Titanium, Safestrap, etc.). Am I crazy?
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Isn't 6.13.219 the Gingerbread update from April? I did the .215 to .219 back then, leaving my phone rooted and many apps deleted (not frozen). The OTA update went fine, though when done, I wasn't rooted anymore and all the pre-loaded apps were back.
I don't know if that OTA update going fine was just luck, which is why I am asking here about what to do before the OTA ICS update, from those who might share their ICS update experience (good or bad).
My ICS update went good, took a very long time though, and almost killed the battery.
First I used OTArootkeeper to unroot the phone, then installed the update. The update rebooted, and installed, rebooted again, and did a nother install, then said upgrading apps, at this point it took near 2hours, If you have a lot of apps, make sure to have the phone plugged in. I thought my phone was bricked at this point, cause the progress display stopped after a while. but after 2hours of that, it finished booting and was fine. Used otarootkeeper again, and regained root, and my phone is back to normal like nothing happened.
I really didn't play with the rom much, except to root it. Lots of new annoying bloatware though, have to see if they are just installed apps, or if they actually run.
Preinstall Files?
qe 1/1
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
Installing update...
Deleting Facebook cache folder...
Verifying Current System...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/preinstall/Knowyourdevice/Motorola_XT894_Batterysave.3gp", "71ce34b3b53ae3a2d9bbfb9ce3ba4452d73ea98", "4e7e24a6817763a5539e569c9d7e15c6e430a27b")
E:Error in /cache/Blur_version.6.13.219.XT894.Verizon.en.US.zip
(status 7)
Installation Aborted
- Looks like I need to replace the preinstall files? I dunno for sure how. I do have an image. Trying to Apply the soak to GB
After compulsively re trying the software update button I received a notification that said 217 was available. (I guess I somehow got into the soak test). Anyway, I downloaded it last night (officially) as well as Voodoo OTA Root keeper from the market. FYI: I am only rooted, no roms or safestrap. I went into superuser and made sure I had the current su binary. Back in Voodoo, "Protect root" - > "Temp Un- root". This can be tested by opening a root app and trying to use its root function, only to be denied. Then I installed the update and let it run its course. After I was running 4.0.4, and all my apps were updated from the market, I went into Voodoo and pressed "Restore root".
Now I am running stock ics on my rooted droid 4!
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i got it....
I followed some directions to return to stock and flash in a copy of the original system via adp.
worked great. Now I am in ICS!
I currently have NB4. I do not want to lose root.
AT&T keeps trying to download and install update even though I have set no security update in settings. Is there a way to block this? Perhaps Greenify the update process?? Thx.
Use titanium backup or root app delete to freeze the att update app
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Hi guys,
I'm still on 4.3 (LB) on my Z, and have just rooted my phone a few days ago using the new towelroot method - which worked a treat. Since then I have done a couple of things; downloaded SuperSu, iFont so that I could use different fonts on my phone & also I tried uninstalling some system apps (I think I did anyway!) using ES file explorer.
Anyhow, I noticed after doing this, my internal memory keeps getting very low despite me removing apps (games etc)! In fact, the more I am removing, the more I believe it's actually eating up memory! I only have like 1.7gb left & keep getting the stupid 'transfer to SD card' message - which is dumb seeing as I've transferred everything I could.. WHAT IS EATING THE MEMORY UP!?
So can anyone direct me if I am uninstalling system apps correctly? I am doing it by clicking on Root Explorer via ES file Explorer, then 'uninstall system app', then ticking the ones to uninstall. Is that right?
And also, is it worth updating to kitkat considering how many bugs are found with it atm? If so, should I update via OTA or PCC? As far as I understand, OTA keeps root, and PCC doesn't? For some reason I fear that updating whilst having root & a couple of system apps being uninstalled, it could mess up my phone...
Sorry for all the questions! The low storage in particular is driving me insane..
Many thanks!
SalamiQueen said:
Hi guys,
I'm still on 4.3 (LB) on my Z, and have just rooted my phone a few days ago using the new towelroot method - which worked a treat. Since then I have done a couple of things; downloaded SuperSu, iFont so that I could use different fonts on my phone & also I tried uninstalling some system apps (I think I did anyway!) using ES file explorer.
Anyhow, I noticed after doing this, my internal memory keeps getting very low despite me removing apps (games etc)! In fact, the more I am removing, the more I believe it's actually eating up memory! I only have like 1.7gb left & keep getting the stupid 'transfer to SD card' message - which is dumb seeing as I've transferred everything I could.. WHAT IS EATING THE MEMORY UP!?
So can anyone direct me if I am uninstalling system apps correctly? I am doing it by clicking on Root Explorer via ES file Explorer, then 'uninstall system app', then ticking the ones to uninstall. Is that right?
And also, is it worth updating to kitkat considering how many bugs are found with it atm? If so, should I update via OTA or PCC? As far as I understand, OTA keeps root, and PCC doesn't? For some reason I fear that updating whilst having root & a couple of system apps being uninstalled, it could mess up my phone...
Sorry for all the questions! The low storage in particular is driving me insane..
Many thanks!
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Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps.
Be careful about what system apps you are uninstalling
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Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps.
Be careful about what system apps you are uninstalling
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Thanks but I don't wish to install anymore apps especially when I have already got es file explorer. I just wanted to know if I am doing it correctly on that particular app.
I am pretty sure the apps I have tried unininstalling were safe to get rid of, they were stuff like playmemories.. Some live wallpapers I hated etc.
Any other opinions on my other questions anybody please? Safe to update OTA to kitkat after having deleted system apps?
You can check what is using the internal storage in Settings -> Storage.
Removing system apps with ES file explorer should work fine, although I haven't removed system apps like that for a long time. I usually freeze them with Ti Backup as they can be restored if needed that way.
You won't be able to update via OTA any more as you have removed system apps. OTA updates check if /system has been modified and fail if it has.
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kingvortex said:
You can check what is using the internal storage in Settings -> Storage.
Removing system apps with ES file explorer should work fine, although I haven't removed system apps like that for a long time. I usually freeze them with Ti Backup as they can be restored if needed that way.
You won't be able to update via OTA any more as you have removed system apps. OTA updates check if /system has been modified and fail if it has.
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I've already checked the storage part and it's just apps taking up space but the more I've deleted the more I believe space is disappearing =P I've deleted a big game I don't play to free up a bit more though
Anyhow, I didn't quite understand the last part of your paragraph/ending sorry. Do u mean it won't allow me to update OTA or check if it works? I can still do through pcc right and it won't affect anything? I know it will remove root but I'll just install the apk again
again. Just wanted to know if updating will mess up my phone because of the uninstalling of system apps.
Thanks!
I mean you can only update officially via PC Companion now. It will not mess anything up because of root or removing system apps.
When you update via OTA, during the update a check is made to see if anything has been altered in the system partition. Because you removed system apps, that check will fail and the OTA update will not go ahead.
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I mean you can only update officially via PC Companion now. It will not mess anything up because of root or removing system apps.
When you update via OTA, during the update a check is made to see if anything has been altered in the system partition. Because you removed system apps, that check will fail and the OTA update will not go ahead.
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Thats really informative, thank you. Now I understand =)
I noticed you're from UK too, did you update to kitkat the official way without flash etc? How do you find it and any problems like others have been getting? Eg. Music stutters, lags.. All these are putting me off and only thing making me want kitkat is the supposedly new and improved keyboard with emojis! But I hear there's also lag there too!?
You're welcome. ?
Yes, I'm from the UK. I got fed up of waiting for the 4.2 update and instead of moaning about it for weeks on end like some on here, I flashed Spanish firmware on my phone. Since then, I've either updated OTA or with Flashtool. Still on Generic Spanish firmware as it generally receives updates fairly quickly.
The KitKat update was a bit laggy to start with, but after a few reboots I'm having no problems with it. I can't really comment on the Xperia keyboard, as I use SwiftKey that has emojis in KitKat as well(which is now free incidentally and everyone should try it out).
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You're welcome. ?
Yes, I'm from the UK. I got fed up of waiting for the 4.2 update and instead of moaning about it for weeks on end like some on here, I flashed Spanish firmware on my phone. Since then, I've either updated OTA or with Flashtool. Still on Generic Spanish firmware as it generally receives updates fairly quickly.
The KitKat update was a bit laggy to start with, but after a few reboots I'm having no problems with it. I can't really comment on the Xperia keyboard, as I use SwiftKey that has emojis in KitKat as well(which is now free incidentally and everyone should try it out).
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I Think the very first few couple of updates from Sony did drag out insanely long for the UK, but now I think they are bringing them out too quickly lol.
So in other words, you'd recommend updating and a few reboots should do the trick? The battery drain everyone kept talking about I actually experienced before even getting Kitkat too, so not just a kitkat problem.
I can't guarantee it, but my phone is functioning fine after a few weeks usage and a few reboots.
The battery drain is down to Google Play services and requires an update from Google to fix it. Who knows when Google will fix it.
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Yeah I managed to fix the drain by doing several things but never downgraded it. Maybe I should just wait for a new update instead of going onto kitkat and regretting it coz im not at all familiar with flashing files etc
I've decided to get my phone ready to accept the (hopefully soon) OTA update for my 2013 X. Right now it's on 4.4.4, bootloader unlocked (thanks Sunshine!), and rooted. I had it rooted to take advantage of Xposed and Secure Settings with Tasker integration. I also used TitaniumBackup to freeze the Verizon and some Moto apps I never used.
Currently, I have uninstalled every Xposed module I downloaded, then unistalled Xposed itself and finally the Xposed installer app. After that I went into Titanium and defrosted everything that was frozen. Now I have a fair amount of updates coming in from the Play store for all those apps that were frozen. Should I go ahead and update them?
From what I've read, there's been talk on whether or not I have to un-root my phone. I thought I just had to use the toolkit to flash back the stock recovery? That should be the only thing left to do? What about some apps that are device administrators like Cerberus? Do I need to remove them from that list?
Thank you for any advice. I plan on flashing stock recovery when I get home this evening.
Generally speaking an OTA will probably fail if apps it expects to be present are missing or modified in the /system partition. I don't know if having additional items (like Cerberus) will halt the OTA or not. Custom recovery may also interfere with the OTA.
It sounds like you already did all the work, but I personally wouldn't have done any of that until the OTA was actually rolling out. I know they said it will be soon, but it could still be weeks away. I wouldn't give up my phone that was setup how I like it, but that's just my preference.
When the OTA drops, if you try and install it will do all of the validation before it installs anything. If the validation fails, it will tell you it has an error and it won't work. Then you'll have to fix whatever was modified, or reflash the stock firmware to be compatible with the OTA.
I don't believe updating the apps is necessary. I don't even think they need to be active (you can use the Disable function in the App Info screen to hide them), they just need to be present in your /system folder with the correct signature, is how I understand it.
I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
Hello,
Curious if are you going to run a custom rom or root and remove apps you don't want?
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I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
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Which model do you have? Snapdragon?
Generally you can disable the software update using a Package Disabler from the Play Store, or freeze it using Titanium Backup once rooted. Simply turning off the update option in Settings will not work long-term, as it would eventually update anyways. That's why you need to disable or freeze it.
In developers options you can also turn off auto update system. Usually after you root OTA updates won't function anymore anyway after the device status changes to custom. Or does that not apply for US Snapdragons & SamFail?
Can I temporarily disable it just long enough so I can root. Via samfail
Yes, just go in settings - software updates, there change to download updates manually... Job done: nothing will be updated unless you initiate it yourself...
Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
I have a rooted Galaxy s10+ with android pie. Doesn't freezing "Software Update" system apps of my android by Titanium Backup make booting problems for my device? Is it safe for me to freeze those apps? I ask because I've heard freezing some system apps like "Device Care" stops the device from booting. As other fellas I get ota update notifications and I wanna get rid of them by freezing those apps.
MystaMagoo said:
Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
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I am disabling apps with a package disabler for them to still keep updating! So I have gone back to the method of disabling apps via ADB (no root needed this way)
It uninstalls it for the current user, but a factory reset will bring the app back if so needed. You can uninstall the update app with this method, or any other app for that matter. (Just be careful with what you disable)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...nstall-potentially-unneeded-unwanted-t3731062