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Galaxy Note on T-Mobile USA?

I have T-Mobile and am in US.... I really am interested in the Galaxy note and am wondering if it is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G/"4G"/HSPA+ network? I don't know what these frequency bands mean for compatibility ...

It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.

cadavar said:
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
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That is exactly the response I was looking for in terms of technicality goes.
Thank you very much!

interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html

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interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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Hello all,
This is interesting. Is there anyways to confirm that Indian version will have "Penta" band?
I read that Note will launch in India on 3nd November. May be will have to wait to find out.

crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.

Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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i can't find anything to suggest any carrier in India uses the 1700/2100 bands needed for T-Mo (US) 3G to work anyway. so it must be about something else.

crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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There are many bands for UTMS, and t-mobile USA is the only one that uses 1700.
Odds are, even if it is pentaband, it still won't support 1700. It might, but it's unlikely.
- Frank

Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone

I've been researching a bit and it seems that the files are about the same on these phones, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That being said, I am in no way an expert, but I hope someone with more knowledge will chime in on this and give us a concrete answer.

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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
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phone frequency band is hardware specific. if the crystal is not tuned for the frequency, theres nothing you can do to make the phone to accept it

I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.

torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I think that for now is the best idea

I still want this and thinking hard about pulling the trigger and just buying. Has anybody bought this on tmobiles network yet.
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You will only get Edge speeds.
There is no need to confirm anything.
Hardware IS HARDWARE.
I would not consider getting T-Mobile's version of this for the sole fact that they'll mess it up by putting a pair of 1.8 ghz Qualcomm chip in there to support their 42mbps network.
It will be garbage once that happens.
At this point, you either accept it as being Edge only on T-Mobile's network, or you don't get it altogether.

Yeah I know it only works on edge but if a million iphone users are using it then it might be usable but I kinda want a real world test of the Internet and not just specs since that's the only thing that's holding me back
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torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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You could ditch T-Mob, or not worth it? I would leave my carrier for the Note.

I made an inquiry about the Note coming to T mobile directly to someone I know at Samsung. He did get back to me and said they have figured a way around the present problem with the present chip configuration and will come out with a version that will be 1700/2100 compatible. BUT, not soon (2012) and probably will be the next version of this type of 5" + smart phone ....... So it is edge only on TMO for now..............

By the time they actually get to bring something like that out the quad core chips will be out and other makers might bring out something similar hopefully.

Howdy all?
Currently I am using Dell Streak which actually was launched for AT&T. So I was only getting TMo's EDGE speed on my Streak. Which for me was not a big deal because I would only have to deal with slow speed while I am either away from home or work.
Some might find it silly, but what I did was, removed my data portion which was with the phone and actually got TMo's 4g hotspot. And I carried both, my Streak and hotspot always with me. Which for me works out alright.

[Q] LTE bands 2/3/4/7/12 in Nexus 6 XT1103

Hello there,
I'm using T-Mobile in the US but I sometimes travel to Central America. Does anyone know how I can enable the LTE bands 2/3/4/7/12 in Nexus 6 XT1103 permanently? I just need these 5 LTE bands to be enable simultaneously, is that possible?
Help any would be appreciate it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59132197
Have you looked at that thread?
Or this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059

I read the the first one but not the second one, let me take a look. Thanks!
Mike_77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59132197
Have you looked at that thread?
Or this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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Hey Mike,
Do you know what would be the decimal value for the input in QXDM NV line 06828 to enable LTE bands 2,3,4,7,12? Thanks!
Mike_77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59132197
Have you looked at that thread?
Or this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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If you have the T-Mobile N6, shouldn't those bands be enabled already? They should be according to this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_6

They are supposed to, but not all of them. The N6 indeed supports them but I don't think they are all enabled because I can't connect to LTE band 3 or 7.
Mike_77 said:
If you have the T-Mobile N6, shouldn't those bands be enabled already? They should be according to this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_6
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tikoracer said:
They are supposed to, but not all of them. The N6 indeed supports them but I don't think they are all enabled because I can't connect to LTE band 3 or 7.
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There are only 2 versions of the Nexus 6. The XT1100 - International N6 and the XT1103 North American N6. All North American N6 are identical. They all have the exact same bands enabled. No difference, Zero, Zilch, Nada.

Yeah, the US version supports more bands than the International version, however, even the XT1103 supports more than 12 LTE bands all of them were not enabled by default because I couldn't connect to them even in a extremely covered area. I finally researched and I was able to modified the NV values to enable LTE bands 3 and 7 now, I'm now able to connect to those bands without any problems.
danarama said:
There are only 2 versions of the Nexus 6. The XT1100 - International N6 and the XT1103 North American N6. All North American N6 are identical. They all have the exact same bands enabled. No difference, Zero, Zilch, Nada.
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tikoracer said:
Yeah, the US version supports more bands than the International version, however, even the XT1103 supports more than 12 LTE bands all of them were not enabled by default because I couldn't connect to them even in a extremely covered area. I finally researched and I was able to modified the NV values to enable LTE bands 3 and 7 now, I'm now able to connect to those bands without any problems.
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That just doesn't make sense. If they're not enabled they shouldn't advertise.
Anyway, no matter. US carriers are a joke to the rest of the world anyway

Yeah, I said the same thing, and I even called Google Store support and they had no idea why I was not able to connect, they even offered me several times to replace my unit for free just to make sure it was not a hardware problem, I was positively sure that this was a problem that could be fixed with software, but yes, I understand your point, users shouldn't have to go through the hassle of figuring out and modifying stuff that they were supposed to work out of the box.
Anyways, I'm happy now that I was able to connect to LTE outside of the US, I still need to figure out how to calculate the decimal values for the rest of the bands I want to enable later on.
Cheers!
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That just doesn't make sense. If they're not enabled they shouldn't advertise.
Anyway, no matter. US carriers are a joke to the rest of the world anyway
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tikoracer said:
Yeah, I said the same thing, and I even called Google Store support and they had no idea why I was not able to connect, they even offered me several times to replace my unit for free just to make sure it was not a hardware problem, I was positively sure that this was a problem that could be fixed with software, but yes, I understand your point, users shouldn't have to go through the hassle of figuring out and modifying stuff that they were supposed to work out of the box.
Anyways, I'm happy now that I was able to connect to LTE outside of the US, I still need to figure out how to calculate the decimal values for the rest of the bands I want to enable later on.
Cheers!
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Maybe @Azlun can help, and possibly even explain whats going on here?

That's a good idea, I know @Azlun knows how to enable LTE bands 2/3/4/7/12 . I'm new to this and this is the first time having a Nexus 6, I bought it a few days ago. I switched from a Note 4 and personally I think this was the best decision ever.
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Maybe @Azlun can help, and possibly even explain whats going on here?
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tikoracer said:
That's a good idea, I know @Azlun knows how to enable LTE bands 2/3/4/7/12 . I'm new to this and this is the first time having a Nexus 6, I bought it a few days ago. I switched from a Note 4 and personally I think this was the best decision ever.
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All bands your are talking about are officall support bands, so with NV6828 default value decimal 1099830466654,heximal little ending 0x 00 00 01 00 13 01 18 5E, you should gotten it by out of the box in Google play ver.
If you gotten a tmobile us, I am not sure there is more setting in EFS Exporloer,/policeman/carrier_policy.xml or not, it is suggest to remove such folder and file for you to get full hardware capability or have a validated .XML file for your target operator.

Ohhh, I didn't know that, actually I was able to connect but it has been very difficult to get LTE, sometimes it connects, sometimes it just doesn't. Could you please give the instructions on where I can find that folder and file you mentioned so I can back it up somewhere else and remove it from the phone?
Thanks a lot @Azlun!
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All bands your are talking about are officall support bands, so with NV6828 default value decimal 1099830466654,heximal little ending 0x 00 00 01 00 13 01 18 5E, you should gotten it by out of the box in Google play ver.
If you gotten a tmobile us, I am not sure there is more setting in EFS Exporloer,/policeman/carrier_policy.xml or not, it is suggest to remove such folder and file for you to get full hardware capability or have a validated .XML file for your target operator.
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tikoracer said:
Hey Mike,
Do you know what would be the decimal value for the input in QXDM NV line 06828 to enable LTE bands 2,3,4,7,12? Thanks!
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dial
*#*#4636#*#*

NLBeev said:
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*#*#4636#*#*
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Be careful, never select 4636 umts band selection items it will bring your phone no more signal even just gsm...
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tikoracer said:
Ohhh, I didn't know that, actually I was able to connect but it has been very difficult to get LTE, sometimes it connects, sometimes it just doesn't. Could you please give the instructions on where I can find that folder and file you mentioned so I can back it up somewhere else and remove it from the phone?
Thanks a lot @Azlun!
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If you can have one minute connected that mean no issues on that file, if you just have 1 second connect, try to check this file in QPST-EFS Explorer in modem Embedded File System. policeman folder....

I used to connect well a couple days ago, not anymore. Now I see that it tries to connect for 1 or 2 seconds and gets disconnected, it doesn't stick to LTE. Let me try to follow your instructions, I'll let you know! Thanks a lot Azlun .
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Be careful, never select 4636 umts band selection items it will bring your phone no more signal even just gsm...
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If you can have one minute connected that mean no issues on that file, if you just have 1 second connect, try to check this file in QPST-EFS Explorer in modem Embedded File System. policeman folder....
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@Azlun, I was able to connect to the embedded file system, however I don't see the folder policeman in the root, is it hidden or inside another folder? I've attached a screenshot for you to visualize. Let me know please, thanks!
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If you can have one minute connected that mean no issues on that file, if you just have 1 second connect, try to check this file in QPST-EFS Explorer in modem Embedded File System. policeman folder....
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tikoracer said:
Ohhh, I didn't know that, actually I was able to connect but it has been very difficult to get LTE, sometimes it connects, sometimes it just doesn't. Could you please give the instructions on where I can find that folder and file you mentioned so I can back it up somewhere else and remove it from the phone?
Thanks a lot @Azlun!
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that means my guessing is wrong, you are not limited by carrrier_policy.xml. but just because the network does not send right redirection message to your phone with right RF channel your phone can access to,
so I have NO solution to help. sorry.

That's OK Thanks for taking a look of the issue anyway! I noticed that if I forced the phone to go LTE only, it doesn't stick, it tries to connect for 1 second and then disconnects, then, after that if I try to force it with LTE/GSM or LTE/GSM/CDMA it will connect after 2 tries. Any ideas of what would be happening? I had a Note 4 and I didn't have any problems, I'm using the same SIM from the same carrier.
Please let me know if you have any additional idea or info. Thanks a lot @Azlun.
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that means my guessing is wrong, you are not limited by carrrier_policy.xml. but just because the network does not send right redirection message to your phone with right RF channel your phone can access to,
so I have NO solution to help. sorry.
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On AT&T, but where to get 64gb unlocked version

Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.

Ogawa said:
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck

I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!

cortez.i said:
T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
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I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!

Ogawa said:
Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.

wdkingery said:
I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.

he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.

wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!

wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse

Ogawa said:
Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)

wdkingery said:
thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...

Ogawa said:
Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go

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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...

band 17, at&t!
intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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wdkingery said:
band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?

Ogawa said:
Wait, what?
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intifadamericana said:
I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.

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That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...

Ogawa said:
Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot

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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.

Converting SM-N960D/Dual Sim Exynos to Full T mobile US

Hello Im pretty new with samsung devices. I like my device to be rooted so i bought the SM-N960D/Dual Sim Exynos (BRI,BRI,BRI,BRI)
I Noticed that my wides T mobile US snapdragon Note 9 signal is fantastic and also she gets LTE but with mine I don't get LTE and my signal is bad..

So it looks like the N960D is missing a bunch of bands that T-Mobile uses for LTE. It has bands 2 and 4 for sure, but it may or may not have band 12 (conflicting google info), and doesn't have band 66 or 71. This is the cause of your signal woes, and can't be fixed. It either has the bands, or it doesn't.

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So it looks like the N960D is missing a bunch of bands that T-Mobile uses for LTE. It has bands 2 and 4 for sure, but it may or may not have band 12 (conflicting google info), and doesn't have band 66 or 71. This is the cause of your signal woes, and can't be fixed. It either has the bands, or it doesn't.
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Based on most of the stuff I see online, the N960F / D does indeed have band 66 and 71.

I'm going by the info I found here:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_9_td-lte_jp_sc-01l__sgh-n058__samsung_crown (which lists it as a snapdragon, so **** this site)
I also tried looking it up at the Samsung.cn and Samsung.jp sites, but not knowing where the phone originated from, I can't get an accurate idea of what it has or doesn't have.

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I'm going by the info I found here:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_9_td-lte_jp_sc-01l__sgh-n058__samsung_crown (which lists it as a snapdragon, so **** this site)
I also tried looking it up at the Samsung.cn and Samsung.jp sites, but not knowing where the phone originated from, I can't get an accurate idea of what it has or doesn't have.
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So this is the info I was able to find on the SM-n960F/DS:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SM-N960F-6-4-inches-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B07GNHQ2ZN
https://www.samsung.com/ae/smartphones/galaxy-note9/specs/
https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung...-unlocked.html#product_tabs_additional_tabbed

So 2, 4 and 12, MAYBE 66, no 71? Yeah, 66 is huge for T-Mobile now. 71 is going to be a big deal towards the end of this year.

entropism said:
So 2, 4 and 12, MAYBE 66, no 71? Yeah, 66 is huge for T-Mobile now. 71 is going to be a big deal towards the end of this year.
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Since you say you like to be rooted, I'm guessing you've been rooted in the past? Do you miss anything major while rooted? What are the alternatives to secure folder and samsung features? How about banking apps and work e-mail, considering they use device management. Have you faced an issues with that?

I think you quoted the wrong person. Personally, since AdHell/SABS came out, I've lost all desire to root. Ad blocking and stock Android was my only motivation, but right now I'm digging the Samsung Experience UI.

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I think you quoted the wrong person. Personally, since AdHell/SABS came out, I've lost all desire to root. Ad blocking and stock Android was my only motivation, but right now I'm digging the Samsung Experience UI.
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I do Internet tethering a lot and with root i will be able to use my unlimited Internet for tethering i tried dun in the apn type didn't work.
I'm not sure if this is the same as samsung but i use to chance the name=”TetheringGuard_rule”>3</item></app> and set the rule to 0 On my HTC devices and my tethering was fast as hell.

How did you make out OP?
Edit: damn https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...s-td-lte-samsung-crown/t-mobile-united-states
Do a speedtest

AngryDinosaur said:
How did you make out OP?
Edit: damn https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...s-td-lte-samsung-crown/t-mobile-united-states
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That's inaccurate.
Frequency check is usually accurate,but,they got it wrong,or,just haven't got around to entering the correct information in this instance.
Check the Samsung sites in the countries that are known to sell/use the Exynos models & you'll get an accurate listing of 2G/3G/4G LTE Bands on-board.
Another site that's usually accurate is PhoneDb:
http://phonedb.net/

KOLIOSIS said:
That's inaccurate.
Frequency check is usually accurate,but,they got it wrong,or,just haven't got around to entering the correct information in this instance.
Check the Samsung sites in the countries that are known to sell/use the Exynos models & you'll get an accurate listing of 2G/3G/4G LTE Bands on-board.
Another site that's usually accurate is PhoneDb:
http://phonedb.net/
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Ya I see frequency check missed band 66. So it might actually perform alright LTE wise

AngryDinosaur said:
Ya I see frequency check missed band 66. So it might actually perform alright LTE wise
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sounds crazy but flashing csc from t mobile US rom wouldn't enable all the t mobile band on the Exynos N960F/D ? Im just saying

dastylee said:
sounds crazy but flashing csc from t mobile US rom wouldn't enable all the t mobile band on the Exynos N960F/D ? Im just saying
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Can someone please confirm if this would be possible? Would it require root?

Do a speedtest @dastylee

AngryDinosaur said:
Do a speedtest @dastylee
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Of the device or just the internet speed test ?

Internet sorry
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Of the device or just the internet speed test ?
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N960FD to TMB CSC
Hi, I have flashed my OXM (singtel) n960fd to XAA -> TMB and am able to do a speedtest if you need. It switched on my from from 4G and H+ to 4G LTE after rebooting and it showed the tmobile splash screen
HERE is the guide, I got to 10 post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-csc-change-oxm-t3841000

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Internet sorry
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It sucks and me service hmmm i have 2 bars sometimes nothing.
The funny thing is i have t mobile N960u from T-mobile and i have full signal.

Speed test please, thank you
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Hi, I have flashed my OXM (singtel) n960fd to XAA -> TMB and am able to do a speedtest if you need. It switched on my from from 4G and H+ to 4G LTE after rebooting and it showed the tmobile splash screen
HERE is the guide, I got to 10 post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-csc-change-oxm-t3841000
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Will I lose functionality if I buy SM-N960U instead of the T-Mobile variant?

There seem to be very slight radio differences. I don't know enough to know if buying the generic unlocked version will hinder my usage on T-Mobile. T-Mobile doesn't seem to be offering it for sale anymore. Is there a reason I might want the Exynos version in the U.S. if I don't travel? Any help would be appreciated.

kbone213 said:
There seem to be very slight radio differences. I don't know enough to know if buying the generic unlocked version will hinder my usage on T-Mobile. T-Mobile doesn't seem to be offering it for sale anymore. Is there a reason I might want the Exynos version in the U.S. if I don't travel? Any help would be appreciated.
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All of the N960U and N960U1 devices are exactly the same. Literally.??
To use any of them on Tmobile and get the full tmobile features, just flash the T-Mobile version of the software for the N960U and you'll be good to go.
You can use the Exynos version but I am not sure if any of T-mobile's features would be hindered. Tekhd has a Detonator rom for the Exynos version to get it to run on Tmobile. I am assuming it will enable all Tmobile features. ??

no. every snapdragon galaxy device has the same hardware. If you buy a U version and you want it to be a T version, all you need is a computer, usb cable, drivers installed, Odin, some bubblegum to chew once youre done kicking ass, a keyboard, monitor and a mouse. Flash the T-Mob firmware, reboot and prepare to unwrap that bubblegum and the ass kicking will soon commence.
if you want root, get the xynos version, but if youre using GSM strictly, you wont notice a difference between the functionality of the F and U versions

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no. every snapdragon galaxy device has the same hardware. If you buy a U version and you want it to be a T version, all you need is a computer, usb cable, drivers installed, Odin, some bubblegum to chew once youre done kicking ass, a keyboard, monitor and a mouse. Flash the T-Mob firmware, reboot and prepare to unwrap that bubblegum and the ass kicking will soon commence.
if you want root, get the xynos version, but if youre using GSM strictly, you wont notice a difference between the functionality of the F and U versions
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Thats not exactly the case. The n960w (Canadian) has different cell band support than the n960u or n960u1. A slight hardware variation. I'm not entirely sure if you can convert a n960w to a n960u, but if you could, there would be missing or incompatible cellular bands. The phone would work, just not as well as a region specific device would.

I don't think so. If you are purchasing the US unlocked variant of the Note 9, you should be able to use it with any US cell provider. However you may have to take your device to a high street retail store and let them config some of the settings.

Bober_is_a_troll said:
Thats not exactly the case. The n960w (Canadian) has different cell band support than the n960u or n960u1. A slight hardware variation. I'm not entirely sure if you can convert a n960w to a n960u, but if you could, there would be missing or incompatible cellular bands. The phone would work, just not as well as a region specific device would.
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oh? do tell

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oh? do tell
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Here, I'll tell.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/

Bober_is_a_troll said:
Here, I'll tell.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
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you should note the 2G and 3G bands being identical, or at least nearly and the screenshot you showed is suggesting these bands for LTE B38 – 2600 B39 – 1900 B40 – 2300 B41 – 2500
which are covered in the G960U portion of your screenshot

i dont see a compatibility issue here

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i dont see a compatibility issue here
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3g-scdma are completely different, n960u is missing 4g fdd band 2600, n960w is missing 4g tdd band 2100.

Bober_is_a_troll said:
3g-scdma are completely different, n960u is missing 4g fdd band 2600, n960w is missing 4g tdd band 2100.
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dude.... rogers is a GSM provider. 3G-SCDMA is utterly irrelevant

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3g-scdma are completely different, n960u is missing 4g fdd band 2600, n960w is missing 4g tdd band 2100.
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also, missing 2 LTE bands isnt a big deal. Let alone the fact that there likely isnt any actual difference anyways. Do you know anyone with a N960U? Id gladly put your Rogers card in my phone if i was able.

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dude.... rogers is a GSM provider. 3G-SCDMA is utterly irrelevant
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Short sighted much? Sprint and Verizon are both cdma carriers. So if anyone in the us on those carriers bought a n960w using your advice they would be lacking in cellular connection in some areas.
Not only that but you also completely ignored the 4g differences as well. Don't go around spreading false information like that. Just because it's snapdragon based doesn't mean they're the same.
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also, missing 2 LTE bands isnt a big deal. Let alone the fact that there likely isnt any actual difference anyways. Do you know anyone with a N960U? Id gladly put your Rogers card in my phone if i was able.
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Missing all the 3g-scdma and a few 4g bands would make quite a big difference, given that different 4g lte bands serve different purposes.
It goes to show that just because they are snapdragon based doesn't mean they are the same all I've done is prove my point that there are slight cellular band differences. Proved you wrong, deal with it and stop saying that all snapdragon note 9's are the same. You're wrong. All the n960u and n960u1's are the same but that's it.

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Short sighted much? Sprint and Verizon are both cdma carriers. So if anyone in the us on those carriers bought a n960w using your advice they would be lacking in cellular connection in some areas.
Not only that but you also completely ignored the 4g differences as well. Don't go around spreading false information like that. Just because it's snapdragon based doesn't mean they're the same.
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Missing all the 3g-scdma and a few 4g bands would make quite a big difference, given that different 4g lte bands serve different purposes.
It goes to show that just because they are snapdragon based doesn't mean they are the same all I've done is prove my point that there are slight cellular band differences. Proved you wrong, deal with it and stop saying that all snapdragon note 9's are the same. You're wrong. All the n960u and n960u1's are the same but that's it.
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this is hysterical.... ok dude.... theyre different because you say so. Oh, did you know that the single sim phones are also the same as the dual sim?
samsung made a very concerted effort to consolidate all of their physical models starting with the S8.
When canada came-a-callin, they must have changed their entire business model regarding the building of phones and the countries respective CSC's and threw them all out the window. So yes, let the poor suckers who took the advice of myself and many others suffer the consequences and wrath of having "the wrong phone".
Get a 960U and a 960W, put the sim card in each of them, prove that youre right or wrong, post up your findings and we can go from there. Until then, we have to base what we do on what we know. Techwalls says they dont share the same band connectivity, samsung says that theyre all the same. Do with that information what you will. Good day sir.

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this is hysterical.... ok dude.... theyre different because you say so. Oh, did you know that the single sim phones are also the same as the dual sim?
samsung made a very concerted effort to consolidate all of their physical models starting with the S8.
When canada came-a-callin, they must have changed their entire business model regarding the building of phones and the countries respective CSC's and threw them all out the window. So yes, let the poor suckers who took the advice of myself and many others suffer the consequences and wrath of having "the wrong phone".
Get a 960U and a 960W, put the sim card in each of them, prove that youre right or wrong, post up your findings and we can go from there. Until then, we have to base what we do on what we know. Techwalls says they dont share the same band connectivity, samsung says that theyre all the same. Do with that information what you will. Good day sir.
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You are right, this is hysterical. Why do you think inserting a different Sim would tell us if the bands are available or not? It wouldn't. It's even funnier because your source wasn't Samsung. Do you have a link from Samsung showing all the bands being the same? I'd like to really see that one because currently you're wrong.
I'd really like to see how you're going to explain how the n960f and the n960u are the same phone?! do tell us how a exynos based phone and a Snapdragon Basedphone are the same thing hardware wise?!?!?! Not even talking about cell radios at that point, just the chipset itself?

Bober_is_a_troll said:
You are right, this is hysterical. Why do you think inserting a different Sim would tell us if the bands are available or not? It wouldn't. It's even funnier because your source wasn't Samsung. Do you have a link from Samsung showing all the bands being the same? I'd like to really see that one because currently you're wrong.
I'd really like to see how you're going to explain how the n960f and the n960u are the same phone?! do tell us how a exynos based phone and a Snapdragon Basedphone are the same thing hardware wise?!?!?! Not even talking about cell radios at that point, just the chipset itself?
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omfg dude... the xynos F variants and the snapdragon (too many letters to bother listing) arent the same. The statement i made about them all being the same was assuming that you could go ahead with the already understood part of this discourse which is that we are discussing American continent versions. If youd like we could also discuss the Chinese versions that have snapdragon processors but are rootable. Thats not likely a rabbit hole you want to go down. I even just got off a chat with a rogers cellular tech who said that they are all the same phone. Every samsung s series or note series phone that was built for the americas are all the same hardware.
youre still wrong and youre fighting like hell to defend your losing position
oh, and for the info from samsung.....
i sold samsung phones at the end of the S7 lifespan and thru the S8 and S9s debuts. We got TONS of technical data on them at the time. Yes i perused the materials because it was such an unprecedented change in samsung phone lineup for the previous 7 iterations. FFS, ive flashed the G960F firmware on my G960U. Currently Running the G960U1.
And yes, putting your card in my phone and running a Cellular utility will tell you ABSOLUTELY what bands its using. Give up dude... Go read some more. Go to a cellular store and ask for the technical releases. THEYRE THE SAME PHONE
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I'd really like to see how you're going to explain how the n960f and the n960u are the same phone?! do tell us how a exynos based phone and a Snapdragon Basedphone are the same thing hardware wise?!?!?! Not even talking about cell radios at that point, just the chipset itself?
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just because this is fun shutting you down. I did get my information from Samsung. I even got some demo models of the S7 and S7 edge from my local Samsung rep. I talked with him a lot. I sent him away to speak with his contacts in Korea about technical issues we encountered with various Sammy devices a few times for that matter.
Ive grabbed at&t S8s and activated them on Verizon. Theyre literally all the same. Im even beginning to think that the firmware is like windows. Every ISO of windows has every version built in to it, its just been bottlenecked to only allow installs of a certain version. Id be willing to entertain the thought of the firmwares doing the same thing. I say this because ive seen apps magically appear that were verizon specific on at&t phones when activated even before having data working or wifi

@troll and Doofus. You're both making schoolboy mistakes when attempting to compare radios on the W and U models.
Get the radio information from Samsung USA website and Samsung CA website then post your screenshots.
Besides, we all already know what F and W stands for in these models.[emoji1787]
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@troll and Doofus. You're both making schoolboy mistakes when attempting to compare radios on the W and U models
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um... no? i am, and have been, keenly aware of the heat issues that samsung has faced over the years of developing their own processor line and having CDMA radios in those devices. Try again pal....
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Get the radio information from Samsung USA website and Samsung CA website then post your screenshots.
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have you even looked for those on the website you recommended for yourself? Have you found them? are they even there? does it even matter since they are literally the exact same phone if they both have the snapdragon processor?
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Besides, we all already know what F and W stands for in these models. [emoji1787]
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apparently not, hence why this discourse has even happened in the first place.....

youdoofus said:
um... no? i am, and have been, keenly aware of the heat issues that samsung has faced over the years of developing their own processor line and having CDMA radios in those devices. Try again pal....
have you even looked for those on the website you recommended for yourself? Have you found them? are they even there? does it even matter since they are literally the exact same phone if they both have the snapdragon processor?
apparently not, hence why this discourse has even happened in the first place.....
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I'll say it again. Use Samsung official regional websites to attain accurate radio/band information.
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I'll say it again. Use Samsung official regional websites to attain accurate radio/band information.
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from the guy complaining about not posting screenshots from samsung directly, its ironic that you havent posted them either.
oh, and yeah.... gsmarena is a non reputable site, i can see your reticence in accepting what they say as having any truth to it....