[Q] N00B with questions about the Future? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

So I don't even know if this is the right place for this question( however I know there isn't a thread already about it).
I know that this phone get's horrible Benchmark ratings why is that? I work for RadioShack and my cowork(cousin and neighbor) has the Samsung Galaxy S2 and it is as Borat says "King of the Castle". So my question is, does anyone think I could beat his score? I mean I didn't order this phone to be a powerhouse but a 1700-1900 quadrant score isn't great. I have a Droid Charge(work provided) and my highest score is 875 !!!!!!!!!!!!! So that will be fast to me, but curious on what people think could happen. I know that there are overclocked cousins of this phone(Raider???) at 1.5 ghz, benchmarks on them?????? Thanks for everyone's thoughts.

thatradioshackguy said:
So I don't even know if this is the right place for this question( however I know there isn't a thread already about it).
I know that this phone get's horrible Benchmark ratings why is that? I work for RadioShack and my cowork(cousin and neighbor) has the Samsung Galaxy S2 and it is as Borat says "King of the Castle". So my question is, does anyone think I could beat his score? I mean I didn't order this phone to be a powerhouse but a 1700-1900 quadrant score isn't great. I have a Droid Charge(work provided) and my highest score is 875 !!!!!!!!!!!!! So that will be fast to me, but curious on what people think could happen. I know that there are overclocked cousins of this phone(Raider???) at 1.5 ghz, benchmarks on them?????? Thanks for everyone's thoughts.
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Benchmarks mean nothing. It's like saying who has the biggest e-peen. To me HTC makes quality devices compared to Samsung. Once we have perm root and start having custom roms, the benchmarks for the vivid will be higher.
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Thank you, I have always liked HTC, I had a Inspire and liked it. I think I will like the Vivid, just wanted a little more performance out it if possible. Plus the f2.2 lens(IDK what that means) is nice.

One big thing is processor ..HTC uses Qualcomm which do not give top performance ...but than you get radio which would be way better than Samsung as far data rates or power or switching between LTE/hspa.
Unfortunately not all aspects are tested by benchmarks. I trust HTC build quality over Samsung and so went with HTC.
So don't buy a phone based upon benchmarks etc...
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I know I just would like to get at least 3000 on there. It is like having a handgun for home protection, you may not ever use it but you want it there in case.

Screw benchmark numbers.. if a device feels fast enough to satisfy its user, then it's fast. A stupid number created for the sake of argument and arrogance won't justify how fast or slow a phone feels to the person holding it.
Just my opinion.. lol.

markjo said:
Screw benchmark numbers.. if a device feels fast enough to satisfy its user, then it's fast. A stupid number created for the sake of argument and arrogance won't justify how fast or slow a phone feels to the person holding it.
Just my opinion.. lol.
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I agree, and like you said, it's just a number. In a dogfight I watched between the vivid and an att sgs2 and the vivid loaded pages and videos faster.
It's heavier but that and the better materials makes it feel great in hand. I had an sgs2 and traded it about 2 Weeks street getting it from clove.
Don't let numbers get to you because that's all they are. Qualcomm chips never have done well on quadrant as far as I know.
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I agree, and like you said, it's just a number. In a dogfight I watched between the vivid and an att sgs2 and the vivid loaded pages and videos faster.
It's heavier but that and the better materials makes it feel great in hand. I had an sgs2 and traded it about 2 Weeks street getting it from clove.
Don't let numbers get to you because that's all they are. Qualcomm chips never have done well on quadrant as far as I know.
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I totally agree. I held the skyrocket in hand with the vivid and the skyrocket felt cheaply made. The vivid on the other hand felt sturdy.
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I know I just would like to get at least 3000 on there. It is like having a handgun for home protection, you may not ever use it but you want it there in case.
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Truly benchmarks mean crap. I do however like my phone to get decent marks. And I haven't researched this phone through and through, but i assume it's running sense seeing as it's htc. Sense is a resource hog, and also hurts bench. But on these newer devices is smooth as butter and performs better than most. As development continues and devs make the roms leaner scores will go up. Just feel good that you have a phone that gets ok benchmarks but still kills other devices and is built well.
I own the evo 3D and it's benchmarks sucked balls at first, but it's coming around, and is the smoothest phone i've ever held. HTC has the best phones imo..
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Skyrocket and vivid have the same processor ..HTC just underclocked the vivid.. can't wait to see perm root for this thing. I really want to get it lol
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Lg thrill in my hands....

was lucky enough to get mine couple days ahead. Quality looks great, it feels good in your hands....camera and everything seems good so far....Now to root..
Rooted mine last night using Superoneclick with no issues. Gingerbreak doesn't work, but pneuter did.
gonna try rooting mine tonight....let me see and download superoneclick
Rooted mine this afternoon... clockwork rom manager thinks it is the LG optimus V... weird...
We really need a specific forum for this phone!!!!
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I have had this phone for a few days it really great. Don't know why it was getting such bad reviews. Its definetly better then the evolution 3d
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I had a chance to play with one today. Nice phone. But I just don't see the 3D as being anything more than a gimmick. It's a little on the thick side and doesn't offer an AMOLED. Though the LCD it has is certainly fine.
For the price...$450, one really can't go too wrong with it...unless the Infuse came down to that price point.
Just got my hand on it...stoood in line for 2.5 hrs to get it. so far so good, feels durable, screen is nice although i wish it was AMOLED or possibly Gorilla Glass(the one thing i'll have to get over coming from the captivate and infuse)..
Hope fully 2.3.3 comes for it soon the stock 2.2 is out dated, even though ATT promised to have all 2011 phones with 2.3...../facepalm
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Just got my hand on it...stoood in line for 2.5 hrs to get it. so far so good, feels durable, screen is nice although i wish it was AMOLED or possibly Gorilla Glass(the one thing i'll have to get over coming from the captivate and infuse)..
Hope fully 2.3.3 comes for it soon the stock 2.2 is out dated, even though ATT promised to have all 2011 phones with 2.3...../facepalm
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Tell me about it. I returned my Infuse, which had superior music reproduction and an amazing SAMOLED+ display and sweet design and feel, because AT&T didn't come through on the update they promised for Aug.
The sound quaity was so good on the Infuse that I got addicted to it and am having withdrawal symptoms...lol
Would love if you post a review here
Here what i think of the phone. THe previous phone I was usign was an infused so the screen doesnt compare. But is still good. I have read some people complaining about it lagging. I havent had any issue with the phone its fast and snappy to me. I caompared it with my friends atrix on gingerbread. Didnt do a quadrant. but the thrill was way faster. You will read people complaining about it being on froyo. TO be honest who the hell uses the oem roms that come on the phone. Cyanogenmod is working ona rom fro this device atleast the European version. From what I have heard the 3d is actually working.The device does have 512mn or ram but the clock speed on it faster then any other devices that have 1 gig or ram. TO be honest I dont need pc specs on a phone. i have a laptop for that. I wont be compiling kernals on my phone Thats just what i think for 30 bucks from costco how can you go wrong. I would just try it for yourself caus eyou may like it or you may not. ust dont go off of what the reviews are saying
tethering
I rooted my new LG thrill today with superoneclick...no problems how do I tether it to my computer so I can use it as a wireless hotspot?
It looks really good enjoy it
Using it for a couple of days now... have to say... other then the battery life... (getting a 1980mah in the mail soon) i dont have any complaints.... real quick... and the thing im most impressed with which i wasnt excpecting was the lcd panel... now a friend of mine has the infuse and that thing is the biznis!!! But the thrills lcd is not an amoled.... but it looks like one ... the colors are rich and the blacks very dark... in the sun it is absolutely amazing!!!! Better than the amoled!!!! I kid you not.
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Using it for a couple of days now... have to say... other then the battery life... (getting a 1980mah in the mail soon) i dont have any complaints.... real quick... and the thing im most impressed with which i wasnt excpecting was the lcd panel... now a friend of mine has the infuse and that thing is the biznis!!! But the thrills lcd is not an amoled.... but it looks like one ... the colors are rich and the blacks very dark... in the sun it is absolutely amazing!!!! Better than the amoled!!!! I kid you not.
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I just got this phone too and the battery life is pretty bad. Where did you find the 1980mah battery? I would be interested in getting one!
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Got the phone Sunday and the battery is pretty bad, went to sleep battery was pretty low when I woke up. Other than that, no problems with this phone yet, the 3D technology needs to be improved but, that's what early adopters get sometimes. Give it a couple of years the 3D will be amazing. Can't wait for CM for the Thrill to be released. It's already a snappy phone I can just imagine what it will be like with CM on it.
Love it. Coming from atrix did the tegra mod so I have the best of both worlds! Also the phones ram is dual channel so its faster then 1, 1 gig of ram! The battery sucks where did you get the 19mh one I'd love that! Then I wouldn't regret my phone switch at all!
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MartyLK said:
I had a chance to play with one today. Nice phone. But I just don't see the 3D as being anything more than a gimmick. It's a little on the thick side and doesn't offer an AMOLED. Though the LCD it has is certainly fine.
For the price...$450, one really can't go too wrong with it...unless the Infuse came down to that price point.
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I thought so too when I saw the commercials, but that one photo of my little girl in the store changed the game for me.
With the movie and electronics industries throwing their weight (read: money) behind 3D, it's probably not going away and won't be considered a gimmick for long.
Did lg lock the boot loader?
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No idea, but perhaps that question might be answered more readily in its own thread.
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As far as i am aware lg doesnt block their bootloaders..
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[Q] How many of you on Bell have the Raider 4G?

I just placed an order yesterday for this new phone.
This will be my first android, giving the iPhone 4 that I currently use to my little sister.
Specs seem decent:
1.2GHz Dual Core
4.5" qHD screen
1GB Ram
8MP 1080p camera
1.3mp front facing camera
LTE Support also with HSPA+
I am really excited to get it, I played around with one at the cell shop here in canada.
I liked it's design over the Samsung Galaxy S II, not sure if I made a mistake ordering this phone though.
Anyone have this or are getting it?
I have no idea how to overclock and/or root (or even what I could do with a rooted phone for that matter lol)
shawnj0
most of the stuff posted under this vivid fourm has worked without any issues.
You high on something? Your post has nothing to do with my OP
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You high on something? Your post has nothing to do with my OP
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He just answered your concern "not being sure if you made the right decision" between this and SGS2. Most of the stuff posted under Vivid forums about HTC Vivid is ok, that means no problems with the device, therefore you made a good choise. There are many threads opened on this regard, so there's enough opinion for you to read. I've played with both SGS2 and Vivid, and the Vivid was the winner for me even over the Skyrocket.
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You haven't made a mistake in ordering it. I had a Captivate and, for a day, the Skyrocket before moving on to the Vivid. A piece of paper is built better than the Skyrocket, or just about any plastic-laden Samsung for that matter. You will not be disappointed. Coming from an iPhone 4, you won't see that much of an improvement going from a Retina screen to the 4.5" qHD one on the Holiday (Vivid/Raider), but the resolution is there and it's very pleasing.
Eventually, true root will be coming to this device. Just for reference, the processor is actually 1.5 GHz but is underclocked to 1.2 for better battery life.
Amazing. Now all I can do is wait for it to be shipped to me.
I've heard good things about it, and some not so good things.
I did (while playing at a bell store) prefer its design over the SGS2.
It was so cool and I hope to eventually root and clock it back to 1.5 ghz.
This will be my first android, and from what it seems, spec wise it blows the iPhone 4 out of the water
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[Q] Dilemma now. SGS2 or Vivid?

I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
Jirv311 said:
I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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My opinion: Jump. While I've not tried the GS2, I had a GS1. Other than Voodoo sound, it was pretty rubbish, and I definitely don't trust Samsung to make a smartphone anymore.
Also, Touchwiz looks like poo and runs like it too. Sense is a bit fat, but you get a fully functioning and fully integrated experience.
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
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ClippinWings said:
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
See my sig.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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I'd consider the display a HUGE advantage.... bigger than LTE even.
the SGSII display is so bad I would have returned mine whether the Vivid was released or not. And that's saying something considering i was using a Dell Streak with a shattered screen previous to my SGSII.
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
Absolutely. It's on HTC's official "Will get ICS" list, which makes AOSP/custom ICS even easier.
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
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Good chance.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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Well, have a free "thanks", I missed the quote button.
It feels pretty solid. It's definitely on the heavier side as compared with Samsung phones, but I honestly don't really notice. Far more durable than my Galaxy S Captivate, and less finicky than the Desire HD line.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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quarlow said:
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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I may end up trying the Vivid for a couple days to see how I like it. Otherwise, I'll wait on the upgrade.
And I agree, I'm probably asking for some biased responses here but thought I might find somebody who has had both phones that could help.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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backtothemac said:
I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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Jesus, it's hilarious when people pull the "LOL, all phones have better build quality then Samsung phones." No, they all have worse, what you have is better build feel.
Drop your vivid from a 4 foot drop, I dare you, and watch it shatter into a million pieces and dent the **** out of your phone.
Me, I've dropped my skyrocket on concrete countless times, no shattered screen (gorilla glass) and the "flimsy" plastic your talking about, I have one minor scratch.
But, at least it's not as bad as the iOS fanboys and their all glass phone, can't drop that from a 6 inch drop without shattering the back.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I'm going to assume you mean Skyrocket and SGS II.
The SGS II has the powerful Exynos, so obviously in terms of raw horsepower, it obliterates ALL phones.
The skyrocket has an LTE radio, but honestly, the battery drain is no different then my Infuse, which had AMAZING battery life.
Now that the LTE radio and HSPA+ radio are the same radio (not 2 seperate radios like on VZW's LTE phones and the Vivid), it saves power as it can actually turn off the data when not needed.
It comes down to personal preference. Trying them out is key. Ever tried Samsung touchwiz? Compare it to HTC Sense and there is a huge difference. I'm not alone when I say Sense is the most polished and seamless UI on the market. It integrates many things that other UIs do not. The sheer amount of widgets sense has is pretty amazing too. All of which have a 3d effect when scrolling between screens.
If you will be heavily modding, I say go HTC. Otherwise you will get bored with touchwiz and aosp ROMs, there's hardly even a difference between the two. With HTC you will have a wide variety of sense and aosp roms.
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I've used both- personally owning a vivid, and helping my friend with his gs2, rooting and romming it with cm7 for him.
The GS2 is extremely light, too light for me but I don't think it's truly a negative. His battery lasts longer than mine, however mine is faster. The camera boots faster and overall using the software feels solid. That is with the vivid locked and slowed down by sense to some extent.
One thing of note that no one states about the galaxy s 2. If you want to shoot 1080p video, it forces the sensor to zoom in almost all the way. If you don't believe me- http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1085142.html
The vivid does not zoom in at all, making for full sized 1080p footage. I prefer the screen IMMENSELY on the vivid, however I think the gorilla glass is a huge plus on the s2.
Really you need to weigh out what's important to you as both have positives and negatives. After using his galaxy s2 I was extremely happy that I decided to upgrade to the vivid.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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Battery-wise the Samsung wins, hands down... That's the vivds only weak spot.
Speed, in benchmarks the vjvid gets slaughtered... BUT in reality, its the smoothest phone I've ever used.... So if there is a speed difference it may exist with some graphics intensive games, but is irrelevant in my normal use.
And to answer the question of dropping the vivid... That's what a case is for.... The difference is by the time you put a case on the super thin super dainty sgsII, you loose any advantage of its thin profile.... While the vivid still feels like it was built to handle the zombie apocalypse.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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No S-Off yet, but we still have perm root and can flash ROMs. All in one package right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836

[Q] Get HTC One aka M7 (Snapdragon 600) or wait for Snapdragon 800 device?

I am thinking of getting a HTC One. But, after seeing the spec sheet of Snapdragon, comparing the Snapsragon 600 (used in HTC One) vs the Snapdragon 800 the latter seems to be far better than the 600 series. Also, in the spec sheet the SD 600 is categorized under mid-high end phones, where the SD 800 is intended for super premium phones, tablets and smart tv's. Source: Spec sheet and Qualcomm Press Release
So, I'd like to know your opinions. Should I go for the HTC One, which seems a great phone overall, just not the best possible SOC (but great enough for a phone I reckon), or should I wait for one of the first Snapdragon 800 devices?
These days no matter which phone you buy, few months later something better will get released.
And besides that, at the moment snapdragon s4 pro is best soc available(until htc one comes out) and snapdragon 600 is suppose to be 40% better in performances, so I would definitely go for it...
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I don't think we will see the 800 on phones at least not until a new chip can beat the 600.....
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at this point i honestly feel like phones don't really have a need to get any faster for day-to-day usage. it's more about software features. 1080p is nice, but it's not a MUST HAVE over a 720p. snapdragon 800 is a great bonus if you're in the market for a smartphone when it comes out, but getting the s4 pro or the 600 will probably not give you any lag or speed problems. i mostly root and install stock android on most of my phones so the 2 things i always look for are:
1. battery life
2. design
that's it. though i wonder if i'd rather stay on htc sense if i ever get an htc phone. everyone always bashes it but i find sense to be extremely good looking (even better than stock).
S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
after the S800 the S900 then the S1000 etc... every few months there will be something newer and faster just like dual core, quad core and now the supposed 8core chips that are being developed or already developed ... as well as the SGS3 then SGS4 then SGS5 , note 3, then note 4 etc.. you get the idea if you wait for the newer thing thats "about to come out" then your gonna always end up waiting and never have anything ...
Since I get a new phone every 2 years I could wait a couple of months for better, newer hardware though. SD800 devices are said to use Quick Charge 2.0 and Voice activation, which are ONLY available only for the SD800 devices. I read somewhere that there are already 55 SD800 devices in the works (source), so waiting a couple more months for a significant performance boost, even lower battery drain, and charging the battery up to 75% faster seems logical to me. (Not to mention encode/decode of 4K HD content, 50% boost in graphics and 100% boost in performance due to Adreno 330, 50% faster LTE bandwidth and clocked to 2,3GHz) Those are a lot of high percentages! Voice activation could be interesting, but I rarely use voice so that's not a big deal for me. Maybe in the future when Google Now becomes available in the Netherlands though.
The comments are understandable that you should not wait for the next best thing as you will end up having nothing. But a few more months for such a performance and feature boost, to me, is a better insurance my phone will keep up the next 2 years (hardware wise).
But thanks again for the replies!
Well, I've had early access to one running a final build in Canada. If it's performance you're worried about; I've ran Nenamark 2 on it, and it never went below 60 FPS. The result was 60.2 average.
The only major thing that could have made me wait though is the quicker charging feature, however I mostly charge my devices at night so charging times makes little difference to me.
Don't take my word for it though, I'm biased towards the One. I've been following it since it was just a rumor and had already pre-ordered it.
Its the most poerful device rite now..what else do u want? Evn s4 wont be that big a difference..and plasticky
Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
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Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
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LC, will we see your work on hTC One??
I'm definitely getting 600 snapdragon and past 800,1200. And getting 1600. LOL. There's always gonna be a better phone, I'm not gonna wait forever.
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i take now, is away more powerfull than my gs3 and better construction
HTC One + will be out in a couple of months after the S4 release, as HTC always does.
And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Until a couple of months down the line when something else that makes us drool is released.
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S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
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According to some rumours there may be S800 phones out as early as July. I don't think anyone really knows.
I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
And the Results are? :::drum roll:::
Greetings, Bramgg. After Googling the SAME question... it brought me to your post and this forum. I was fascinated by some of the insightful comments you got on this post, Bramgg. i'm a AT&T customer in the US and unless i plan on losing my fishing partner (and more importantly his boat!! lol) i'm pretty locked in with my service provider! Lol.
I currently am using an HTC Vivid (pausing for those reading this to groan) and i'm primarily still using that phone because i have been dragging my feet waiting for the Snapdragon 800. i happen to REALLY like HTC even though i can't deny the sluggish performance and lag times on the Vivid have been verrrry frustrating. I guess my frustration is part of the reason i have dragged my feet in selecting a new phone but honestly, i can't take it any more!! i need a new phone.... hopefully in the next few days.
I have a real fascination with the Snapdragon 800... and am curious if you waited for it or went with the 600 as you were contemplating? Are you pleased with the speed? This is kind of embarrassing to admit on an advanced user forum but i'm not even aware if the 800 is out yet and available on HTC devices. I'm not completely locked into HTC i guess, but i do like the 'Shortcut to Four Apps' feature on the lock screen and i do think they build a high quality phone compared to many of the other companies who flood the market with phones and discontinue them three months later.
Thanks in advance for any help you or others reading this can provide... i'm very anxious to have a phone that responds more quickly.
Steven
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Shadow, I'm fascinated (and slightly jealous! lol) of your knowledge on processors. i told Bramgg (in a post below on this thread) a few details about what i'm contemplating and why. May i get your thoughts please... when time permits, of course. i suppose i could wait a week or so if something specific had already been announced but i'm not sure i can wait much longer for a new device as i'm verrrrrry frustrated with the lagging on the HTC Vivid. The Vivid has a 1.2 GHz dualcore processor with 1GB of memory... but it's not cutting it. Texts, Apps opening... all verry slow.
Thanks in advance.
Steven
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I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
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HTC one maxx officially announced

Specs list. Headed to sprint and Verizon.
5.9-inch Full HD Display
Quad-Core Snapdragon 600 at 1.7 Ghz
2GB of RAM
16 or 32GB of Storage with support for microSD cards up to 64GB
BoomSound Speakers, Fingerprint Scanner and an UltraPixel Camera
Android 4.3 with Sense 5.5
3,300 mAh – non-removable
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...h-snapdragon-600-and-fingerprint-scanner.html
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Deal breaker without the s800. Nexus 5 I think is next on my list.
Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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I'd feel like an iPhone user upgrading to the same phone for just a bigger screen.
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
The functionality is the same because it's literally the same phone but bigger. And it's a huge deal breaker for the people who own the one because what's the point for dishing out a lot of money for literally older tech and a phone you already have. I can't believe I'm saying this but the note 3 looks a lot more promising and the maxx is probably going to be the same price as that. HTC has probably just ruined themselves on this one .
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Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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Battery life is a pretty big factor, considering the improved idle times. They would likely satisfy a lot more geeks if they ditched the fingerprint scanner and used that cost for the upgrade to S800. Also lame is the camera downgrade. The 4MP Ultrapixels that has been proven to capture less detail than the competition in daylight, and the lack of OIS which made the One great in lowlight (taking blur free shots at 1/7sec shutter is pretty awesome)...so now it'll be below the competition in daylight and lowlight
5.9" 1080p Screen
Sense 5.5
Sd Card support
Boomsound Speakers
3300MAh battery
Gorgeous harware
Enough reasons to consider it over the Note 3. Atleast imo.
HTC is doing exactly what Samsung first did when they released the first GNote. 1st GNote had exaclty the same specs as the Galaxy s2 did.
So maybe HTC is only testing waters in the phablet territory. If it sees potential sales growth from the One Maxx sales, then One Maxx 2 should be so much sweeter.
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Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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+1
JEEZUS CHRIST WHAT A FAIL
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tkoreaper said:
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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This is the same logic HTC has applied to its phones the last few years and look where it has gotten them. The "98% users don't care" argument needs to go. HTC's most influential customers are us here on xda. It's time they start listening to get more word of mouth sales
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"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage
Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage
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I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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word homey
HTC needs to go back to putting in "wow" in their products. Remember when the OG EVO came out and everybody was WOW! The One camera has issues, known fact. Why they are repeating this again is absurd, given their market share. Kudos to HTC for the relatively fast 4.3 update but still, this move won't win back more customers, just staying afloat at best.
It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.
Only saving grace for this phone is if they price it wisely... The One Max by all mean will be considered a low end phablet so let's hope it's priced accordingly.
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It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.
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Well put. The max is part of the same generation as the One. The note generally features some small spec bumps from the s phone that comes before it, like a mid ground between two different generations. The s800 architecturally as far as I can understand is just redesigned to handle higher clock speeds, clock per clock performance with the s600 should be on par or identical. 2gb of ram and the screen is the same great screen on this phone with a less dense pixel density, no biggie. The only part im not impressed by is the ugly presentation of the finger print scanner, and the camera hasn't been upgraded. It is a bit disappointing on this phone
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shook187 said:
Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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I really like the look of the G2. It does have the S800. I just like the HTC dev community.
XaoSilentrzk said:
I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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No offense taken. I was looking to get this phone but I'm now leaning towards the note 3. It is very frustrating to watch htc seemingly shoot themselves in the foot. I'm going to wait for a comparison between the two first. I have to ask myself, do I really want a huge metal phone. I mean really, at least give it a pen
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