Specs list. Headed to sprint and Verizon.
5.9-inch Full HD Display
Quad-Core Snapdragon 600 at 1.7 Ghz
2GB of RAM
16 or 32GB of Storage with support for microSD cards up to 64GB
BoomSound Speakers, Fingerprint Scanner and an UltraPixel Camera
Android 4.3 with Sense 5.5
3,300 mAh – non-removable
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...h-snapdragon-600-and-fingerprint-scanner.html
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Deal breaker without the s800. Nexus 5 I think is next on my list.
Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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I'd feel like an iPhone user upgrading to the same phone for just a bigger screen.
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
The functionality is the same because it's literally the same phone but bigger. And it's a huge deal breaker for the people who own the one because what's the point for dishing out a lot of money for literally older tech and a phone you already have. I can't believe I'm saying this but the note 3 looks a lot more promising and the maxx is probably going to be the same price as that. HTC has probably just ruined themselves on this one .
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Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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Battery life is a pretty big factor, considering the improved idle times. They would likely satisfy a lot more geeks if they ditched the fingerprint scanner and used that cost for the upgrade to S800. Also lame is the camera downgrade. The 4MP Ultrapixels that has been proven to capture less detail than the competition in daylight, and the lack of OIS which made the One great in lowlight (taking blur free shots at 1/7sec shutter is pretty awesome)...so now it'll be below the competition in daylight and lowlight
5.9" 1080p Screen
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3300MAh battery
Gorgeous harware
Enough reasons to consider it over the Note 3. Atleast imo.
HTC is doing exactly what Samsung first did when they released the first GNote. 1st GNote had exaclty the same specs as the Galaxy s2 did.
So maybe HTC is only testing waters in the phablet territory. If it sees potential sales growth from the One Maxx sales, then One Maxx 2 should be so much sweeter.
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Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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JEEZUS CHRIST WHAT A FAIL
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tkoreaper said:
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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This is the same logic HTC has applied to its phones the last few years and look where it has gotten them. The "98% users don't care" argument needs to go. HTC's most influential customers are us here on xda. It's time they start listening to get more word of mouth sales
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"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage
Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage
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I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
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word homey
HTC needs to go back to putting in "wow" in their products. Remember when the OG EVO came out and everybody was WOW! The One camera has issues, known fact. Why they are repeating this again is absurd, given their market share. Kudos to HTC for the relatively fast 4.3 update but still, this move won't win back more customers, just staying afloat at best.
It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.
Only saving grace for this phone is if they price it wisely... The One Max by all mean will be considered a low end phablet so let's hope it's priced accordingly.
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It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.
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Well put. The max is part of the same generation as the One. The note generally features some small spec bumps from the s phone that comes before it, like a mid ground between two different generations. The s800 architecturally as far as I can understand is just redesigned to handle higher clock speeds, clock per clock performance with the s600 should be on par or identical. 2gb of ram and the screen is the same great screen on this phone with a less dense pixel density, no biggie. The only part im not impressed by is the ugly presentation of the finger print scanner, and the camera hasn't been upgraded. It is a bit disappointing on this phone
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Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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I really like the look of the G2. It does have the S800. I just like the HTC dev community.
XaoSilentrzk said:
I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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No offense taken. I was looking to get this phone but I'm now leaning towards the note 3. It is very frustrating to watch htc seemingly shoot themselves in the foot. I'm going to wait for a comparison between the two first. I have to ask myself, do I really want a huge metal phone. I mean really, at least give it a pen
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I was really set on the One, but started reading about all the issues people were having with the screens and gaps and speaker noise. I started reading up on the S4 and thought maybe a change would be nice, since I've been with HTC since the Hero days. I would like to hear some personal experiences and feedback. I got some hands on with the One and it was smooth as can be, but haven't had a chance to play with the s4 yet. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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I have the one and the build quality is second to none. The screen is exceptional and I have never had a phone where the speakers sound so good. I love my One and am happy with my purchase.
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I have the one and the build quality is second to none. The screen is exceptional and I have never had a phone where the speakers sound so good. I love my One and am happy with my purchase.
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Metal>Plastic
BoomSound>Traditional Speakers
469ppi>441ppi
Sense>TouchWiz
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I was really set on the One, but started reading about all the issues people were having with the screens and gaps and speaker noise. I started reading up on the S4 and thought maybe a change would be nice, since I've been with HTC since the Hero days. I would like to hear some personal experiences and feedback. I got some hands on with the One and it was smooth as can be, but haven't had a chance to play with the s4 yet. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Go buy a gs4
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I am a hardcore perfectionist and had VERY high expectations for the One.
I will tell you that i have an almost-noticeable-with-the-bare-eye cluster of about 4 stuck pixels (at 450+ dpi you really have to look hard to see it), a 1mm gap in the middle of my zero-gap-construction device, and a home button that isn't as sensitive as it should be (which I know will be getting fixed in the next OTA).
Even being a hardcore perfectionist and demanding a LOT from this phone, I LOVE IT AND WOULD NOT TRADE IT FOR ANY OTHER PHONE. It is without a doubt the most amazing piece of technology I've ever owned.
If you've been with HTC for awhile, now is not the time to bail out. This is the best phone they've made by a mile. Sense 5 is sick and the look and build quality is iPhone level. If you've held a GSIII, you know how the GSIV is going to feel. Not in same league imo.
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I'm also trying to decide between the s4 and one. I listen to music a lot so the one def wins on that respect.
The one thing holding me back from getting the HTC one is that the aluminum back I'm guessing will be much more susceptible to scratches. I like to run my phones caseless, so just wondering if any current one owners could comment on how their phone is holding up so far? I went to sprint and the display model already had a chip on the back so had me worried.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Honestly, its all about personal preference. The One and the GS4 really are two totally different devices, the one really is a more polished device in my opinion. As I sit here and type this I have an HTC One and a GS4 sitting right next to me and after using the One for over a week then switching to the GS4 there is a big difference in performance. Now the truth is that out of the box the GS4 basically has more features than any other phone on the market but at the expense of performance. To me the One simply does everything faster, whether opening and closing apps, switching between apps, accessing the camera....etc..... the one simply does it with virtually no lag where as the GS4 stutters ever so slightly. I have gone as far as turning off every feature I could and even though that did help, its still no where near as responsive as the one and because of that I will stick with the One. Sorry but touchwiz for whatever reason is a bloated mess of a UI filled with features that are impractical which also hinders the performance of the device. I really wanted a 5" device and even with the plastic build it still a pleasant device to look at and hold but the performance simply falls short. Also, I know I can root the device but in the age of quad core devices with at least 2 gigs of ram, rooting shouldn't be the only way to increase performance.
One>S4
That's all
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Honestly, its all about personal preference. The One and the GS4 really are two totally different devices, the one really is a more polished device in my opinion. As I sit here and type this I have an HTC One and a GS4 sitting right next to me and after using the One for over a week then switching to the GS4 there is a big difference in performance. Now the truth is that out of the box the GS4 basically has more features than any other phone on the market but at the expense of performance. To me the One simply does everything faster, whether opening and closing apps, switching between apps, accessing the camera....etc..... the one simply does it with virtually no lag where as the GS4 stutters ever so slightly. I have gone as far as turning off every feature I could and even though that did help, its still no where near as responsive as the one and because of that I will stick with the One. Sorry but touchwiz for whatever reason is a bloated mess of a UI filled with features that are impractical which also hinders the performance of the device. I really wanted a 5" device and even with the plastic build it still a pleasant device to look at and hold but the performance simply falls short. Also, I know I can root the device but in the age of quad core devices with at least 2 gigs of ram, rooting shouldn't be the only way to increase performance.
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Thank you, this is exactly the kind of responses I was looking for.
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Even the provided headphones sound top notch if your into high bass
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I tell you what, with the exception of maybe one person on these forums. The One forum is way more pleasant than the s4. That alone is almost enough to persuade me to go with my first choice.
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Atrix HD for sure.!
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Even the provided headphones sound top notch if your into high bass
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I wouldn't say "top notch", but saying they are better than any other pack-in headphone would still be a disservice to these.
I'm pleasantly surprised by how good they sound. You could buy better, but I doubt you'll ever get a free pair better than these again.
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I love my One. I was set on getting the S4 at first when the argument seemed to be aluminum vs plastic, because the S4 seemed more powerful, but the One really is more than just an amazing looking device. I love the camera, I don't understand why people feel they need to zoom in on pictures, because if they don't, 4 MP is actually perfectly fine since it's a higher resolution than 1080. Pictures with the One are amazing no matter what the situation, which is very rare with cell phone cameras, I found myself being excited about having a cell phone camera for the first time since my very first flip phone. I tell people comparing the One and the S4's cameras is comparing quality to size, and I always prefer quality. Besides that the screen is amazing, but you probly won't be able to tell too much difference with the pixel density since they're both so dense. The speakers are also amazing, I've thought sound was coming from my computer speakers a few times that was actually coming from the phone. The call quality is great too, I can hear people much clearer that I used to have problems talking with on my evo 3d. It doesn't come with much bloatware and I haven't had any bit of lag yet, even with lots of apps running at once and playing graphics intensive games. I have also been very impressed with the battery life, I've used it constantly since I bought it and have not had it go under 10% before the end of the day, so I can actually play games on my phone now without worrying about the next time I need to plug it in.
My only gripe with the phone is the capacitive buttons, they only work when you press on the white part, so it's much less surface area than I'm used to, but it's not such a big deal, just a small annoyance to get used to. Sense isn't an annoyance on this phone, and any annoyances like blinkfeed or no quick settings in the notification pulldown can be easily solved.
They're both great phones, but when I did my own comparison of the two, I thought the S4s new features were more software gimmicks than improvements to me. The One has software gimmicks like Zoes and blinkfeed, but it has quite a few hardware improvements that were powerful enough to impress me.
Reading Anandtech's review of topped me over! They also have part 1 of the S4 review.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review
Convince you the one is superior? What do we work for htc? Read the reviews ffs. Brian Klug from Anandtech wrote 17 pages about this phone. You may want to start there.
Edit: can this thread be locked? He has this in both forums. Stop cluttering up the forums.
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I'm not gonna convince you to do sh!t you do the research, not my job to babysit you or do your homework
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I have been doing my own research I just want others people's opinions to help me make my final decision. Just when I thought the s4 forum was the one full of deuches. Thanks to all of those with actual feedback though, it's really appreciated.
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http://androidandme.com/2013/07/dev...ves-android-4-1-broken-promises-at-the-scene/
Now I know the One S is a mid range, but this will further hurt HTC. There aren't to many people who have faith in HTC regarding this news. What are you guys thoughts?
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http://androidandme.com/2013/07/dev...ves-android-4-1-broken-promises-at-the-scene/
Now I know the One S is a mid range, but this will further hurt HTC. There aren't to many people who have faith in HTC regarding this news. What are you guys thoughts?
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XaoSilentrzk said:
http://androidandme.com/2013/07/dev...ves-android-4-1-broken-promises-at-the-scene/
Now I know the One S is a mid range, but this will further hurt HTC. There aren't to many people who have faith in HTC regarding this news. What are you guys thoughts?
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I don't think too many people mind, to be honest. You're going to get a huge responder bias in terms of people responding to this issue (namely, it's going to be people who actually care about the updates and know of the One S' existence). It's a sweet looking phone and this is too bad, but I don't think HTC's going to bleed much from this issue.
Don't quite agree with above poster: I'd be surprised though if it went two years, but I do think it'll last more than one.
The only major complain I have from HTC is with their device support for updates. Any news about one X ? I hope it is getting 4.2.2 with sense 5. Otherwise I will lose faith in HTC.
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I don't think too many people mind, to be honest. You're going to get a huge responder bias in terms of people responding to this issue (namely, it's going to be people who actually care about the updates and know of the One S' existence). It's a sweet looking phone and this is too bad, but I don't think HTC's going to bleed much from this issue.
Don't quite agree with above poster: I'd be surprised though if it went two years, but I do think it'll last more than one.
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Dude you're missing the point. The One S isn't supported but the far significantly weaker Galaxy S2 is? That makes no sense and shows HTC could care less about supporting the already released devices. First it was the desire HD fiasco, then the One X bad unit fiasco, the EVO3D extra slow update fiasco, now this. It's bad PR and world of mouth for them.
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Dude you're missing the point. The One S isn't supported but the far significantly weaker Galaxy S2 is? That makes no sense and shows HTC could care less about supporting the already released devices. First it was the desire HD fiasco, then the One X bad unit fiasco, the EVO3D extra slow update fiasco, now this. It's bad PR and world of mouth for them.
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Not really, no. You've missed the far bigger issue-- two, actually.
Comparing the Galaxy SII to the One S is apples to oranges. The One S is a mid-tier handset launched in a handful of markets without a strong brand name or marketing campaign to its name. While an excellent phone, its adoption numbers were never great. The Galaxy SII might be older, but it has been launched in many more markets, on many more carriers, and perhaps most importantly it was a Samsung flagship device. And as a flagship, it's going to see a lot more attention than a midrange phone-- even if it now is today's midrange device.
That's practically a side note though compared to the real issue. The majority of Android customers do not care about updates. No poll you will ever conduct on XDA or any Android or mobile enthusiast site is going to matter in this regard, because the representative responder bias is ridiculously, ludicrously high. So long as a device is current "enough" (that is, it supports most apps in the Play Store), consumers are none the wiser for each Android update, and chalk new features to a new phone.
Oh, and considering the contract upgrade cycle, people care even less. Even on the iOS side where you can expect an update rather regularly, most individual users will shrug their shoulders unless the update breaks something.
Simply put: yes, this will raise a stink in the developer community, and anyone maybe one step removed from a developer/enthusiast. But is it going to change the market? No, and even if it did it wouldn't hold a candle to the impact HTC and Samsung/s gross disparity in marketing reserves will have.
Nonetheless, any way you slice it... Bad move for HTC. I lurked over to their forums (One S) and many users are pissed
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Not really, no. You've missed the far bigger issue-- two, actually.
Comparing the Galaxy SII to the One S is apples to oranges. The One S is a mid-tier handset launched in a handful of markets without a strong brand name or marketing campaign to its name. While an excellent phone, its adoption numbers were never great. The Galaxy SII might be older, but it has been launched in many more markets, on many more carriers, and perhaps most importantly it was a Samsung flagship device. And as a flagship, it's going to see a lot more attention than a midrange phone-- even if it now is today's midrange device.
That's practically a side note though compared to the real issue. The majority of Android customers do not care about updates. No poll you will ever conduct on XDA or any Android or mobile enthusiast site is going to matter in this regard, because the representative responder bias is ridiculously, ludicrously high. So long as a device is current "enough" (that is, it supports most apps in the Play Store), consumers are none the wiser for each Android update, and chalk new features to a new phone.
Oh, and considering the contract upgrade cycle, people care even less. Even on the iOS side where you can expect an update rather regularly, most individual users will shrug their shoulders unless the update breaks something.
Simply put: yes, this will raise a stink in the developer community, and anyone maybe one step removed from a developer/enthusiast. But is it going to change the market? No, and even if it did it wouldn't hold a candle to the impact HTC and Samsung/s gross disparity in marketing reserves will have.
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This says it. I just wonder though why the people who are stating such bad history by their own opinions still posting from yet another HTC? But hey. I like HTC. I font keep one handset over 6-12 months anyway. So...no worries. But hope you all settle to the reality that once a device is sent its share of updates and fixes and complaints stop in huge forms they will move on. Your buying the handset with firmware as is. They are only entitled to fix what's broken not add stuff the new devices have. That's bad business 101. They are just that. Big business.
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Nonetheless, any way you slice it... Bad move for HTC. I lurked over to their forums (One S) and many users are pissed
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Well, let me think...a forum of people who use the One S, care enough to sign up on a forum, and not just any forum, on the XDA One S forum (and others), and...what do you have there? Respondent bias! I don't think you get it: for the vast, vast majority of users out there, they do not know enough to care.
And no, it's not an "any way you slice it" situation. Basic economics dictate that you take the best option over a given time horizon. Believe it or not, that does in fact factor in things like customer loyalty and brand name. I have precious little doubt that there were serious discussions about updating the One S, particularly given how much contrary information there was in the beginning of this process. At the end of the day, several things are readily apparent.
1) For good or bad reasons, Sense 5.x was designed for newer processors than the one in the HTC One S.
2) Consequently, HTC needed to both the underlying Android firmware to 4.2 (and if you're going to say "4.1 to 4.2 was such a minor update", think about what "minor" can mean distributed over x number of handsets running different software, in different locations, and in the hands of users of wildly varying degrees of proficiency-- and think of what happened during the 4.2 upgrade for many devices ["my tablet is so slowwwww" "my battery sucks!"]) and backport Sense 5.0 to an older processor design. When you're doing optimization, that's not easy.
3) The HTC One S is a phone that's a generation behind. It never enjoyed the same success as equivalent Samsung models, either.
4) No One S units are still being sold as new stock: HTC gains no further revenue from selling these handsets.
5) HTC's One has been released inside the envelope for contract upgrades for a large number of people who used HTC's last "great" product line.
HTC is going to put its resources where it can earn money. Right now, it doesn't really have time or stamina to try and maintain phones that it essentially jettisoned by going all-in on the HTC One.
Well... Sucks for those guys
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Well, let me think...a forum of people who use the One S, care enough to sign up on a forum, and not just any forum, on the XDA One S forum (and others), and...what do you have there? Respondent bias! I don't think you get it: for the vast, vast majority of users out there, they do not know enough to care.
And no, it's not an "any way you slice it" situation. Basic economics dictate that you take the best option over a given time horizon. Believe it or not, that does in fact factor in things like customer loyalty and brand name. I have precious little doubt that there were serious discussions about updating the One S, particularly given how much contrary information there was in the beginning of this process. At the end of the day, several things are readily apparent.
1) For good or bad reasons, Sense 5.x was designed for newer processors than the one in the HTC One S.
2) Consequently, HTC needed to both the underlying Android firmware to 4.2 (and if you're going to say "4.1 to 4.2 was such a minor update", think about what "minor" can mean distributed over x number of handsets running different software, in different locations, and in the hands of users of wildly varying degrees of proficiency-- and think of what happened during the 4.2 upgrade for many devices ["my tablet is so slowwwww" "my battery sucks!"]) and backport Sense 5.0 to an older processor design. When you're doing optimization, that's not easy.
3) The HTC One S is a phone that's a generation behind. It never enjoyed the same success as equivalent Samsung models, either.
4) No One S units are still being sold as new stock: HTC gains no further revenue from selling these handsets.
5) HTC's One has been released inside the envelope for contract upgrades for a large number of people who used HTC's last "great" product line.
HTC is going to put its resources where it can earn money. Right now, it doesn't really have time or stamina to try and maintain phones that it essentially jettisoned by going all-in on the HTC One.
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Well the HTC one s came out the same time as the one x. So I don't get what you're trying to say. The one s can easily run sense 5. It has a dual core snapdragon processor with 1gb of ram
Sense 5 has a very low memory footprint, even less than sense 4.
Not trying to make Samsung look good, but they do a better job in updating their old phones to the best of their ability.
Lets see how you'll feel next year when HTC does the same thing to you. Don't believe me? The track record speaks for itself.
Saying that HTC will only put resources where they can earn money is very short sighted and not a way a smartphone company should do business, plus killing a phone in one year is unheard of. If you accept these practises then don't say anything when your investment gets killed off and forgotten next spring
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Well the HTC one s came out the same time as the one x. So I don't get what you're trying to say. The one s can easily run sense 5. It has a dual core snapdragon processor with 1gb of ram
Sense 5 has a very low memory footprint, even less than sense 4.
Not trying to make Samsung look good, but they do a better job in updating their old phones to the best of their ability.
Lets see how you'll feel next year when HTC does the same thing to you. Don't believe me? The track record speaks for itself.
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I don't think you're really following the points.
1. Not relevant. The One S was aimed at a different market sector, almost specifically so (small carriers, mid-range specs). That it came out at the same time as the One X is about as useful as saying any one of Samsung's SII variants were released at the same time as the SIII (or more appropriately, the lower-spec'd SIII variants with the SIII proper). Temporal proximity is by far and away not a useful way of measuring Android updates if the past is anything to go by.
2. Sure, the One S could run Sense 5.0. Not the problem here. It's not even an issue of whether or not the One S would run it well. For a business, the question isn't really "can x do y," it's "can x do y and generate enough utility to be worthwhile?" So many people on this forum seem to think that these companies push updates out of goodwill. When they do push updates, it's a very calculated decision.
3. Sure. Samsung's also got the luxury of an enormous war chest right now. When it comes down to resources, HTC's flat out not going to be able to match Samsung. That's with little judgment on either company as a phonemaker, but simply a point of fact. HTC is trying to focus in on a few handsets to preserve itself as best as it can, and updating older phones that sold in small quantities isn't part of that mission statement.
4. To be quite honest, I'm absolutely uncertain what you're trying to prove with this one. For one (har), I'd be more interested in seeing how HTC acts with regards to the One X, which is comparable to the One (both have flagship status, after all) than the One S. For another, given HTC's major push on this single phone (there's no comparison between the One and the One X/S/V/SV in terms of marketing), I would be surprised if they didn't try to support this to the same extent as any Samsung flagship.
But the bigger thing that I find funny here is that you act like it's relevant to me. Newsflash: it's not. It's not as though Sprint users are strangers to slow updates, and once my contract is up I'll probably go prepaid GSM or unlock my One and use it for cell/text only with no data, again on GSM. The One was the most interesting phone available to me after my Galaxy Nexus, and I'll enjoy the phone for what it's worth. As an electronics collector though, I'm fairly accustomed to buying new kit from year to year, so hey, small matter.
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I don't think you're really following the points.
1. Not relevant. The One S was aimed at a different market sector, almost specifically so (small carriers, mid-range specs). That it came out at the same time as the One X is about as useful as saying any one of Samsung's SII variants were released at the same time as the SIII (or more appropriately, the lower-spec'd SIII variants with the SIII proper). Temporal proximity is by far and away not a useful way of measuring Android updates if the past is anything to go by.
2. Sure, the One S could run Sense 5.0. Not the problem here. It's not even an issue of whether or not the One S would run it well. For a business, the question isn't really "can x do y," it's "can x do y and generate enough utility to be worthwhile?" So many people on this forum seem to think that these companies push updates out of goodwill. When they do push updates, it's a very calculated decision.
3. Sure. Samsung's also got the luxury of an enormous war chest right now. When it comes down to resources, HTC's flat out not going to be able to match Samsung. That's with little judgment on either company as a phonemaker, but simply a point of fact. HTC is trying to focus in on a few handsets to preserve itself as best as it can, and updating older phones that sold in small quantities isn't part of that mission statement.
4. To be quite honest, I'm absolutely uncertain what you're trying to prove with this one. For one (har), I'd be more interested in seeing how HTC acts with regards to the One X, which is comparable to the One (both have flagship status, after all) than the One S. For another, given HTC's major push on this single phone (there's no comparison between the One and the One X/S/V/SV in terms of marketing), I would be surprised if they didn't try to support this to the same extent as any Samsung flagship.
But the bigger thing that I find funny here is that you act like it's relevant to me. Newsflash: it's not. It's not as though Sprint users are strangers to slow updates, and once my contract is up I'll probably go prepaid GSM or unlock my One and use it for cell/text only with no data, again on GSM. The One was the most interesting phone available to me after my Galaxy Nexus, and I'll enjoy the phone for what it's worth. As an electronics collector though, I'm fairly accustomed to buying new kit from year to year, so hey, small matter.
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You could write 10 more paragraphs but you still will be writing a wall of nonsense
A phone should not be killed off in a year, and that's my point.
More power to you if you want to buy a new phone every year.
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You could write 10 more paragraphs but you still will be writing a wall of nonsense
A phone should not be killed off in a year, and that's my point.
More power to you if you want to buy a new phone every year.
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And you can be as dismissive and naive as you want, but you're still lacking for answers.
Sure, I agree: a phone shouldn't be killed off in a year. I have a similar belief for computers. Doesn't change the fact that any device will be outdated in six months, and that a company has very little interest in doing anything that would keep you from buying a new device.
But hey, more power to you if you naively believe that equipment manufacturers are going to work against a profit motive.
I'm going to say I'm riding with Flex here
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Yea s2 went from
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So i just hope we get more than one goddamn major update or ill be leaving htc for good
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I'm going to say I'm riding with Flex here
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I'm not. Rirere is right. The One S was a mid range phone and with that you will always get LESS which is why it costs less. One of those "lesses" is you aren't going to get cutting edge support that you should get with a flagship device. (I say should because the E3D was supposedly a flagship device and we got seriously boned on that one.)
Raising a stink over a midrange phone that never sold all that well to begin with is silly and if I had bought one I'd accept that fact. I'd go "well, it really wasn't the top model anyway, oh well."
I don't think this will hurt HTC AT ALL and it shouldn't. Sucks for the 9 people who bought a HOS and not a HOX. Lol
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I'm going to say I'm riding with Flex here
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Brown noser
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I'm not. Rirere is right. The One S was a mid range phone and with that you will always get LESS which is why it costs less. One of those "lesses" is you aren't going to get cutting edge support that you should get with a flagship device. (I say should because the E3D was supposedly a flagship device and we got seriously boned on that one.)
Raising a stink over a midrange phone that never sold all that well to begin with is silly and if I had bought one I'd accept that fact. I'd go "well, it really wasn't the top model anyway, oh well."
I don't think this will hurt HTC AT ALL and it shouldn't. Sucks for the 9 people who bought a HOS and not a HOX. Lol
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Pretty much, which in my opinion is a real damn shame because the One S was my first prolonged encounter with HTC phones. I was interning with a security firm last summer and doing some device testing, and out of all the phones I got to play with (including the Galaxy S III and the HTC One X), the One S was by far and away my favorite of the bunch. I'm actually not at all sure why they didn't use its design as the "premium" handset-- the lighter, slick polycarbonate on the One X felt decidedly less comfortable in the hand and I never actually got used to how I had to hold the One X to use it.
Still, such is life. I'd love it if Key Lime Pie had manufacturers segment off their skins as true "overlays" on stock Android, and thus allowed updates to roll out from Google. Given the company's aggressive severance of services from the underlying Android base though, this issue could well be moot in a few more product cycles, which is equally interesting.
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I'm not. Rirere is right. The One S was a mid range phone and with that you will always get LESS which is why it costs less. One of those "lesses" is you aren't going to get cutting edge support that you should get with a flagship device. (I say should because the E3D was supposedly a flagship device and we got seriously boned on that one.)
Raising a stink over a midrange phone that never sold all that well to begin with is silly and if I had bought one I'd accept that fact. I'd go "well, it really wasn't the top model anyway, oh well."
I don't think this will hurt HTC AT ALL and it shouldn't. Sucks for the 9 people who bought a HOS and not a HOX. Lol
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Explain the desire HD fiasco then, explain the HTC thunderbolt fiasco... Dude accept it... HTC is slacking.
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I currently have a iPhone 5 64gb, and thinking of upgrading to a htc one!.
Just wondering if its worth a upgrade?
I'm a music fan, so the boom sound speakers and beats audio appeal to me.
Thanks
Personally I prefer to have control over my phone and do whatever I want with it. Choice is simple
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If I were you I would definitely stick with the i5. Both devices are extremely nice and fast, and you even have the latest iPhone too. Maybe if you had the 4 I might consider switching. I would wait until the next generation One comes out (Two?) if you would like to switch to Android.
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I currently have a iPhone 5 64gb, and thinking of upgrading to a htc one!.
Just wondering if its worth a upgrade?
I'm a music fan, so the boom sound speakers and beats audio appeal to me.
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No, it is not.
I mean, all you can do with it is Rom, install epic themes, mod the **** out of it...
Besides. It looks better than the iPhone. you don't need that, it would ruin your iPhone's ego.
Camera is 4mp... and takes pictres about 5x better than the iPhone 5.
Don't upgrade. Your iPhone will never forgive you.
yeah the iphone 5 is far better..in every aspect..if i were you id stick with it
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No, it is not.
I mean, all you can do with it is Rom, install epic themes, mod the **** out of it...
Besides. It looks better than the iPhone. you don't need that, it would ruin your iPhone's ego.
Camera is 4mp... and takes pictres about 5x better than the iPhone 5.
Don't upgrade. Your iPhone will never forgive you.
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I don't no wether you are serious or joking!?. Lol.
Does the htc one really take better photo's than the iPhone 5??
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yeah the iphone 5 is far better..in every aspect..if i were you id stick with it
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Really?
gibbo82 said:
I currently have a iPhone 5 64gb.
Just wondering if its worth an upgrade?
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Don't listen to these guys. You have an i5. It's more than good enough for the avg person. (If you haven't understood that these guys are being sarcastic, they're being sarcastic.)
I would wait until the One+ (that's what I'm calling it) comes out, though. Snapdragon 800, Gorilla glass 3, and other spec improvements should arrive on the One+ . It's due sometime this year. Seriously, if you buy the M7 now, it will be unflagshipped by Fall-winter.
Don't buy another iPhone. It may have good battery life, but that's really the only field where iPhone beats M7. I have an i5 (work phone) and it feels bland, but it's functional.
Don't buy the One, wait for the One+. Or, if you're really patient, you might wanna wait for the M8, which is supposed to come out in 2014.
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Don't listen to these guys. You have an i5. It's more than good enough for the avg person. (If you haven't understood that these guys are being sarcastic, they're being sarcastic.)
I would wait until the One+ (that's what I'm calling it) comes out, though. Snapdragon 800, Gorilla glass 3, and other spec improvements should arrive on the One+ . It's due sometime this year. Seriously, if you buy the M7 now, it will be unflagshipped by Fall-winter.
Don't buy another iPhone. It may have good battery life, but that's really the only field where iPhone beats M7. I have an i5 (work phone) and it feels bland, but it's functional.
Don't buy the One, wait for the One+. Or, if you're really patient, you might wanna wait for the M8, which is supposed to come out in 2014.
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One and one+(snapdragon 3) wont make a difference unless you are a heavy gaming guy...
In terms of speed i was satisfied with one x too... I used i phone4s before, for 1 month.... And the i4s and i5 aren't much different in functionality.... I didn't like the one button operation and limited features of that phone.... Even to dial a contact, i had no options to keep a widget for quick dialing.... I couldn't keep a widget to control my wifi, mobile data, sound profile, wi fi hotspot, bluetooth with a single touch..... Then i realized that iphone was kinda jail for me, and the jailbreak wont make a much difference....
Well, i would say... Long live HTC One... Its worth the upgrade.... See it to believe it...
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One and one+(snapdragon 3) wont make a difference unless you are a heavy gaming guy...
In terms of speed i was satisfied with one x too...
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The Snapdragon 800 should allow for better image processing. Some reviews of the One pointed out that there were processing artifacts in pictures. The processor will help make the most of of the Ultrapixel camera.
I'm just saying, the i5 is not even a year old, why would you wanna upgrade, when you can wait for a few more months and get a better phone for the same price?
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The Snapdragon 800 should allow for better image processing. Some reviews of the One pointed out that there were processing artifacts in pictures. The processor will help make the most of of the Ultrapixel camera.
I'm just saying, the i5 is not even a year old, why would you wanna upgrade, when you can wait for a few more months and get a better phone for the same price?
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Well if you are looking at the prices, well definitely iphones have a better resale value than all of the htc's..... But i was just comparing the usability and features of both...
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Well if you are looking at the prices, well definitely iphones have a better resale value than all of the htc's..... But i was just comparing the usability and features of both...
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Well, I was comparing the price of the One to the One+'s.
The iPhone 5S or 6 or w/e is out of the question. I thought I had made that clear.
OP - Don't get the iPhone, don't get the One, get the One+.
Off course, what about the extra possibilities you`ll gain and options to choose from compared to a locked down OS. I wouldn`t want a iPhone if they gave it for free tbh
Most people here are iPhone haters without any reason. HTC one won't be much upgrade from a iPhone 5 (speakers and low light canes performance on HTC one is better), both phones perform well. And if you don't care about modifying and themes, there is no reason to upgrade. Beats audio is just a software preset. So if your buying HTC one for beats audio, your already buying it for wrong reasons.
Everyone listens to music on phone. Both phones should have almost similar experience.
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In your case it's not iPhone vs HTC One.
It's iOS vs Android.
Do you like iOS? Are you satisfied?
If so don't go to Android.
If you want something more free to play with, without having Apple decide what is best for you then go to Android.
As devices they are both top notch.
You may get better pics in specific conditions with the iPhone and better with One under other conditions.
Battery is pretty good in One and it is super fast without any lag.
So for me it's not so much a matter of device vs device (that would be the case if you were thinking about a Galaxy for example), but operating system vs operating system.
If you are sure you want to leave iOS, iTunes and all that i-things then yes the One will feel nice.
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I don't no wether you are serious or joking!?. Lol.
Does the htc one really take better photo's than the iphone 5??
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For sure. The low light pics especially. Besides that, the sense camera has far nicer colour representation. oh, and you can use swype, swiftkey, or the beastly sense keyboard
Personally I wouldn't call it an upgrade, and I wouldn't upgrade if I was you. I actually think that unless you are wanting a move away from iOS then the i5 is more than good enough. I think it would be a "sidegrade"
Put it this way. If you get the One, you will have to root the hell out of it and install custom ROM's to fix both the non responsive back and home buttons and the proximity sensor issues.
Then there is the Camera. Personally I think the One takes better daylight pictures than other phones, but the low light capabilities let it down. The pictures without flash in half decent light at night, are great, but if you need to use the flash, you are out of luck. It won't focus properly and you'll be left with awful blurry out of focus pictures.
I don't know what it would take in a night club, but I wouldn't bet a great deal lol.
The Beats and the Speakers are awesome.
P.S. The snapdragon 800 would do nothing at all for this phone. The camera isn't good enough to need better processing, and the phone is already faster than it needs to be by a long long way.
I think I might just wait until the end of the year, and see what the new phones have to offer then. I'm not desperate for the upgrade just yet, but I'm for ever wanting the latest phones! Lol.
The only thing that puts me off the htc one is the 4mp camera, what on earth were they thinking? You would hav thought 8mp at least.
Thanks for the info & feedback guys.
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I think I might just wait until the end of the year, and see what the new phones have to offer then. I'm not desperate for the upgrade just yet, but I'm for ever wanting the latest phones! Lol.
The only thing that puts me off the htc one is the 4mp camera, what on earth were they thinking? You would hav thought 8mp at least.
Thanks for the info & feedback guys.
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MP do NOT describe picture quality. I am not lying.
MP only describe how large an image can be printed (8mp is larger than most TVs, so it is virtually useless unless you plan on making posters) What really matters is the focal distance, clarity of the lens, and the light sensitivity of the camera. The One has a 4mp camera, yes, but those megapixels are massive (in comparison to the mp of an iPhone camera. that means a larger amount of light/mp. this means that the pictures you take are much brighter, and have better color reproduction.
I really hate to see people turned away by the "only 4mp" camera.
Dude blow up your money and upgrade .. .. well it's not a upgrade. But still blow up your money.
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So, I was watching Pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (PolyStation, copy of PlayStation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2012 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Nexus 4 is still one of the best phones out now because of all the developers. Reviewers who say N4 is average are retarded imo.
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The problem with lot's of reviews that are about products only focus on what you get, not on how much you have to pay to get it. This especially happens in the world of smartphones. This is why they give such a low score to the Nexus 4, like, how much do you care about a camera in a phone? IMO that's a good point to shave of some money from the price. It's nice to have one, but I personally do not care if it is amazing or just mediocore.
if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Many of them think phone's quality = camera quality. Ignore them. Nexus 4 has quite a few compromises in favour of price and in favour of not beating LG Optimus G (LG aren't retarded, it's obvious they wouldn't make an equal or better phone for a cheaper price), BUT it sets aside all the unnecessary gimmicks and focuses on raw power. It's not a false policy, it's just a different ideology. In fact the biggest change Nexus 4 brought to the market is that you could get a top class smartphone for a decent price. And they're continuing this policy with the Nexus 5. This cannot be underestimated. By this logic of completely neglecting the price they could review a low cost budget phone and call it ****. Not a wrong statement to make, but not a fair one either. In a consumer economy price is and always will be relevant and needs to be taken into account.
Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.
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Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.
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Yeah, I remember when MKBHD reviewed N4, he said camera is on pair with GS3
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Lol.. just wait & watch.. This reviewer would say the same thing for N5 when N6 comes out..If N4 had the Avg specs, then i wonder what would be the good specs
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So, I was watching pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (polystation, copy of playstation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2013 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Totally agree with you!
Nexus 4 average? What a ridiculous shade from someone, I'm pretty sure, doesn't know a thing about android world, S3 was the ~TOP smartphone~ last year and Nexus 4 is better than that, what a... I can't even... I just... I can't right now, bye
Only one word - marketing...
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My opinion is that the Nexus 4 has always been slightly under the top of the line, especially in battery and camera. Battery and LTE are as good if not better then many other flagships due to the great developer support. I'm pretty sure a N4 with cm10.2 and Franco performs better than many phones with lesser specs
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sooo!
I don't care what the reviewers say...I love my N4 and I will keep it for a long time...
The Nexus 4 is no where near average. Matter of fact its STILL high end. Comparing spec wise there is only a few phones with higher ends specs and those happen to be 2013 phones, this is a 2012 phone and STILL competes with those flagships.
About the camera: If someone is really THAT much into photography and cameras, why rely on a phone? I enjoy my N4 camera. I don't expect a phone to take 'stunning' images. The only phone that will probably beat any camera phone is the Galaxy Zoom, and that's hideous to look at.
Compare the N4 to other phones that are still being releases with only 1 or half a gig or RAM, lower resolutions, and older android versions, in 2013........
The android OS still beats any phone. The fact that it runs bare stock android and gets updates before any other phones, alone beats all phones out there.
Who ever did that review is on crack.
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Because it's lacking bunch of **** shipping with other brands.
Perhaps a laggy launcher, overwhelming animations, tons of unremovable bloatwares
and batch of uncompleted feature just made there for marketing purpose, making the device incredibly slow with top hardware?
Oh, and one-third of money you pay are for advertisements.
I won't purchase any non-Nexus Android devices since I bought a Nexus 7.
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if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Think big picture -- reviewers influence their audience more than you think. The readers form opinions and judge products without trying it out for themselves or doing any further research. They then spread this to their less-knowledgeable mainstream friends and family.
It's a problem and I wish reviewers would spend more time with devices before rushing to publish reviews for page views.
i saw that review too and think they just do it to get many clicks they always have to say new phones are good and old phones suck so they keep getting free review units...
ppl always criticized me for getting the n4 and saying its the best phone and yes camera was the argument and then i would say i have a canon eos 600d if i want to make pictures i use a proper camera and not a samsung galaxy iphone but those ppl dont understand because they need the best phone camera to instagram their food
and in my country lte is useless since the plan costs 3 times as much so h+ is the better choice imo
Trolololed from my iPhone 5S
dat signature
makes your comment a bit confusing
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To answer the OP just watch a better reviewer like MKBHD, Amondo Ferreira and Erica Griffin.
I watch Pocket Now, but I don't take their opinions as seriously.
Anyway, I've been really enjoying the Nexus 4 with ART so no need to upgrade yet.
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Interesting to compare these same reviewers opinions on the N4 to last year's when they praised it. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Hi there after watching the unpacking event, and reading the full specs I dont really see much of an upgrade.
Yes they have added some good additions like the fingerprint scanner which is awesome, but alot of the other additions wont be used on a massive scale by all users.
Hardware wise, wasnt too inpressed on these either really, would of liked to see an octa-core version, plus the battery isnt too much of an upgrade.
But Ive found a clone version which in my eyes is better, comes with octa-core, looks exactly the same
http://www.goophone.cc/phones/goophone-s5.html
Again this is only my opinion, and of course others will feel different which is there right to do so.
I may even change my mind once ive got my hands on one and have a play, but as for right now, im quite disappointed with the S5.
And I am a Galaxy User myself currently having the Galaxy S3 and soon will have the Note 3 also.
Thanks for reading.
I'm sure this cheap knockoff will be worth every penny.
I wouldnt give you $100 for that phone ROFL. No 4G data (3G only), knockoff CPU, bigger battery 2800mah then the S4 2600mah with less talk time then the S4.
would be great but no lte? i'd like to try before I bought one haha.
It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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would be great but no lte? i'd like to try before I bought one haha.
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Hmmm... No LTE is a deal breaker. 3G is barely good enough to stream YouTube vids, and sometimes it won't even stream at all on 3G.
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initial_k said:
It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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No, it's not at all. The Note 3 is AMAZING! You should check it out.
The Note 3 in a 5 inch form factor would be perfect (spec, looks and feel). Why couldn't they make a Note 3 Mini?
I already own the Note 2 and it's a big too big now and it weight a lot. I currently have the HTC one and while the metal body is great, it feels like you're holding a brick.
Yes I do understand that it doesnt have all the features of the original and of course the price represents that. But I just wasnt really impressed with the S5 so far. As I said my opinion may change once ive had an hands on experience with the device. Its thoughts at the moment.
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Hi there after watching the unpacking event, and reading the full specs I dont really see much of an upgrade.
Yes they have added some good additions like the fingerprint scanner which is awesome, but alot of the other additions wont be used on a massive scale by all users.
Hardware wise, wasnt too inpressed on these either really, would of liked to see an octa-core version, plus the battery isnt too much of an upgrade.
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Don't you think users will use the improved camera (a major update - not just in megapixels) and the water proofing? The improved screen with higher and lower brightness? Yes the puls-rate monitor is a bit gimmicky but unlike ALL the "air" features of S4 these functions will improve every users daily use with the phone.
Kudos for Samsung for not focusing on the one-time-wow-factor and instead improving the users daily rutine.
Yes of course i did like that they did add what users wanted. And of course everyone is going to have there own opinion of the device,
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It's so hard to find a flagship phone that looks good, has a replaceable battery and microsd slot.
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And an unlockable bootloader on a carrier that actually has service where I need it.
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Well, cell phones have reached that plateau where you can't really add anything anymore. Add too much, people cry about bloat and gimmick. Add too little, and you get this... The heck are you guys doing that you need an octocore?
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Trentors said:
Don't you think users will use the improved camera (a major update - not just in megapixels) and the water proofing? The improved screen with higher and lower brightness? Yes the puls-rate monitor is a bit gimmicky but unlike ALL the "air" features of S4 these functions will improve every users daily use with the phone.
Kudos for Samsung for not focusing on the one-time-wow-factor and instead improving the users daily rutine.
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Speaking of everyday average users..90% won't even notice the camera is improved over the s4, so that argument doesn't work IMO.
I won't even comment on the "higher and lower brightness" because that is just lolol. Sounds like iPhone users trying to sell things android has had for years.
I'm sorry, but people are grasping when defending this phone. What I can't figure is how websites like android central praise samsung for making Touchwiz closer to vanilla android and less gaudy....but How?? They put a freaking camera shortcut on the lock screen and gave us a white battery icon, otherwise the rom grew by about a GB over the s4 and is more bloated than ever. They are following the apple footprint by locking the phone down and offering extremely minor upgrades, but I don't blame them because they still make millions by working less because people still buy this stuff like it's the best thing ever.
Note 3. That's innovation. This phone does everything. Maybe the Note 4 will arrive with features worthy of an upgrade. The normal people can have the s5 because commercials told them it was cool.
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Plus not to mention that the galaxy s5 rom will take 8gb of internal space. Bloatware much. So in essence buy the 16gb version to save money. Only have 8 gb of free storage space.
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Rippley05 said:
Speaking of everyday average users..90% won't even notice the camera is improved over the s4, so that argument doesn't work IMO.
I won't even comment on the "higher and lower brightness" because that is just lolol. Sounds like iPhone users trying to sell things android has had for years.
I'm sorry, but people are grasping when defending this phone. What I can't figure is how websites like android central praise samsung for making Touchwiz closer to vanilla android and less gaudy....but How?? They put a freaking camera shortcut on the lock screen and gave us a white battery icon, otherwise the rom grew by about a GB over the s4 and is more bloated than ever. They are following the apple footprint by locking the phone down and offering extremely minor upgrades, but I don't blame them because they still make millions by working less because people still buy this stuff like it's the best thing ever.
Note 3. That's innovation. This phone does everything. Maybe the Note 4 will arrive with features worthy of an upgrade. The normal people can have the s5 because commercials told them it was cool.
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Are you really suggesting that users won't notice they take less crappy photos? That their phone is better in direct sunlight?
How exactly is Note 3 innovation? What new features did it bring that it's predecessor did not have besides the usual performance bump?
what intrigues me is the fact the s5 uses wifi and data at the same time when using the web be great to see how that works and if it really makes a difference should imagine its pretty fast?
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Plus not to mention that the galaxy s5 rom will take 8gb of internal space. Bloatware much. So in essence buy the 16gb version to save money. Only have 8 gb of free storage space.
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Actually you get 10,6 GB of free storage. The "2 GB" was MWC stuff on it.
Oh and I think the 128GB microSD card support does kind of help, no?
Wait for Galaxy note 4. I am sure sammy will give us good surprises
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sohebq said:
Wait for Galaxy note 4. I am sure sammy will give us good surprises
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ahh yes that is true
but a friend of mine told me
"if you keep waiting for something better, you will end up waiting forever"
at the end of the day people will keep praising samsung and choose to buy it after finding out that the new HTC One will have only 2600mah battery and non removable and oppo find 7's 2k screen is washed out and you can't tell difference with 1080p screen anyway. not to mention lg g3 will have a very powerful processor like the snapdragon 805 but still laggy. i predict in the end samsung still wins although i hope i'm wrong. cheers