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IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?

The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring

This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven

One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.

The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big

NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!

Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.

Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?

Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.

I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G

kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.

DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.

NardVa said:
Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?

kopkiwi said:
So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

[Q] Dilemma now. SGS2 or Vivid?

I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!

Jirv311 said:
I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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My opinion: Jump. While I've not tried the GS2, I had a GS1. Other than Voodoo sound, it was pretty rubbish, and I definitely don't trust Samsung to make a smartphone anymore.
Also, Touchwiz looks like poo and runs like it too. Sense is a bit fat, but you get a fully functioning and fully integrated experience.

That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
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ClippinWings said:
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
See my sig.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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I'd consider the display a HUGE advantage.... bigger than LTE even.
the SGSII display is so bad I would have returned mine whether the Vivid was released or not. And that's saying something considering i was using a Dell Streak with a shattered screen previous to my SGSII.
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.

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And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?

Absolutely. It's on HTC's official "Will get ICS" list, which makes AOSP/custom ICS even easier.

How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.

Jirv311 said:
I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
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Good chance.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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Well, have a free "thanks", I missed the quote button.
It feels pretty solid. It's definitely on the heavier side as compared with Samsung phones, but I honestly don't really notice. Far more durable than my Galaxy S Captivate, and less finicky than the Desire HD line.

Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.

You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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quarlow said:
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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I may end up trying the Vivid for a couple days to see how I like it. Otherwise, I'll wait on the upgrade.
And I agree, I'm probably asking for some biased responses here but thought I might find somebody who has had both phones that could help.

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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Jesus, it's hilarious when people pull the "LOL, all phones have better build quality then Samsung phones." No, they all have worse, what you have is better build feel.
Drop your vivid from a 4 foot drop, I dare you, and watch it shatter into a million pieces and dent the **** out of your phone.
Me, I've dropped my skyrocket on concrete countless times, no shattered screen (gorilla glass) and the "flimsy" plastic your talking about, I have one minor scratch.
But, at least it's not as bad as the iOS fanboys and their all glass phone, can't drop that from a 6 inch drop without shattering the back.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I'm going to assume you mean Skyrocket and SGS II.
The SGS II has the powerful Exynos, so obviously in terms of raw horsepower, it obliterates ALL phones.
The skyrocket has an LTE radio, but honestly, the battery drain is no different then my Infuse, which had AMAZING battery life.
Now that the LTE radio and HSPA+ radio are the same radio (not 2 seperate radios like on VZW's LTE phones and the Vivid), it saves power as it can actually turn off the data when not needed.

It comes down to personal preference. Trying them out is key. Ever tried Samsung touchwiz? Compare it to HTC Sense and there is a huge difference. I'm not alone when I say Sense is the most polished and seamless UI on the market. It integrates many things that other UIs do not. The sheer amount of widgets sense has is pretty amazing too. All of which have a 3d effect when scrolling between screens.
If you will be heavily modding, I say go HTC. Otherwise you will get bored with touchwiz and aosp ROMs, there's hardly even a difference between the two. With HTC you will have a wide variety of sense and aosp roms.
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I've used both- personally owning a vivid, and helping my friend with his gs2, rooting and romming it with cm7 for him.
The GS2 is extremely light, too light for me but I don't think it's truly a negative. His battery lasts longer than mine, however mine is faster. The camera boots faster and overall using the software feels solid. That is with the vivid locked and slowed down by sense to some extent.
One thing of note that no one states about the galaxy s 2. If you want to shoot 1080p video, it forces the sensor to zoom in almost all the way. If you don't believe me- http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1085142.html
The vivid does not zoom in at all, making for full sized 1080p footage. I prefer the screen IMMENSELY on the vivid, however I think the gorilla glass is a huge plus on the s2.
Really you need to weigh out what's important to you as both have positives and negatives. After using his galaxy s2 I was extremely happy that I decided to upgrade to the vivid.

Jirv311 said:
So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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Battery-wise the Samsung wins, hands down... That's the vivds only weak spot.
Speed, in benchmarks the vjvid gets slaughtered... BUT in reality, its the smoothest phone I've ever used.... So if there is a speed difference it may exist with some graphics intensive games, but is irrelevant in my normal use.
And to answer the question of dropping the vivid... That's what a case is for.... The difference is by the time you put a case on the super thin super dainty sgsII, you loose any advantage of its thin profile.... While the vivid still feels like it was built to handle the zombie apocalypse.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.

Jirv311 said:
Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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No S-Off yet, but we still have perm root and can flash ROMs. All in one package right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836

Nokia N8 or Galaxy Nexus?

Looking to upgrade my HTC G2, since I'm kinda bored of it and dealing with custom ROMs and whatnot - I want something simple/fluid out of the box with official updates in the future for a little bit. Basically limited my phone search to two in particular - the Nokia N8 and the Galaxy Nexus.
The N8 draws me primarily for the camera (great quality + xenon flash), but also the plethora of other features compared to my G2 (AMOLED screen, HDMI out, front-facing camera, Bluetooth 3.0, USB OTG, lighter/smaller, pentaband, battery life). That, and the price - ~$350 for one in good condition and then $30/month for my current T-Mobile plan (best plan for my needs and cheapest price I've seen).
As for the Galaxy Nexus, it's most of the above plus a bigger screen/resolution (both a positive and a negative for me) and NFC (though I probably won't use it for a while as I have neither Mastercard nor Citibank). But...$650+ is a lot when that's about how much I paid for my M11x R1 laptop, especially since it's be more prone to accidents/loss/theft.
Don't really care for app selection (like 90% of my use will be calls/texts/email/web) - the $300+ difference between the two would probably be used for a 7" Android tablet, mostly for watching videos on something more portable than my laptop, which I know I wouldn't buy if I bought the Nexus (had two Android devcies at the same time once and found it too redundant).
Basically not interested in any non-pentaband phone at this point, and no other Nokia phone really grabs me like the N8 (the N9 is nice, but IMO a step back compared to the N8 in features/ports). PLEASE don't just go and say something like "Nokia is old/out" or "Galaxy Nexus, I have it and it's great" - I'd like actual answers, particularly people who have used Symbian Anna (not necessarily the N8 though).
Only other phone I'd sorta consider is the Optimus from Republic Wireless for the cheaper plan price, but I'm waiting for the service to improve (and allow on-the-fly Wifi/CDMA switching) before I truly consider it.

Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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This is what I mean...I'm assuming it's just a joke post, and it doesn't really help my decision >.>

Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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trell959 said:
Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?

magus57 said:
*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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magus57 said:
*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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I_am_Error said:
They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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Well, the N8's camera is quite a bit better, if only for xenon flash, and from what I've read the recent Anne update has improved the speed/quality of it...not ever really having to carry a point-and-shoot is a big plus for me.
And yeah, better processor and OS - but for a phone, I could honestly live without it. There's maybe one app I even use out of the house that's dependent on a wireless connection, and if it comes to it I can just bring the 7" tablet with (exactly why I want a 7" one - still portable enough to stick in my pocket). As I said, 90% of my phone use is basically just that, with email and web browsing on the side when I have the time for it.
Honestly, the biggest thing is the price - I can't exactly afford to replace it quickly if it were to break or get lost/stolen, and considering how much Android phones - Nexus or not - depreciate...then there's the screen size. Too small to comfortably watch a movie on, and too big to warrant a 7" tablet for me (and I'm just not interested in anything beyond 7") - especially when it'd be an extra $200+ for basically the same thing I have, an android device, in a bigger size.
I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm set on the N8 or something, I just don't want to get a Galaxy Nexus simply because it's "better" when I don't even really need all that "better-ness"

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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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It's not about not taking advice, but I'm looking for advice that consists of more than picking one phone basically because it's the popular phone to recommend. I get this is a tech/phone forum, but that shouldn't mean that everybody only focuses on what's new or "the best" and disregard valid reasons to consider other stuff.
As I mentioned - take into account the fact that I'm going to be getting a 7" Android tablet (likely some Honeycomb/Tegra 2 device) along with said Nokia device, which I absolutely would not get with the Nexus (due to the combined cost, smaller screen size difference, and redundancy of two Android devices - meaning one or the other will be highly underutilized as an Android device).

When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?

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When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.

magus57 said:
I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.

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N8 is a good device, very durable and has an awesome camera, but will you ever use the camera? Just asking. My friend has it, and he likes it a lot. But he said to me the other day "I want Android." It's worth mentioning that he is a long time Nokia fan and not a geek kinda user like me. But why suddenly said he wants Android? Well because Symbian sucks. Period. Yes, Anne update is not bad, but it just ripped off Android. It looks like a complete Android rip-off.
If the camera is very important to you, you can go for SGSII. Lower price, better camera, smaller screen therefor easier to handle, and one of the best devices ever built.
All in all the choice is yours. But don't make a decision that will make you regret it.
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Oh, and having 2 Android devices is not redundant. It's just more awesome. I've a Nexus S and an Acer A500, but I still would buy a Galaxy Nexus if I had the money.
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Yeah, I'd definitely use the camera - I don't really use my current camera just because of the mediocre quality, but I know that would change with a better quality one.
I guess the GSII is an option, although the T-Mobile version doesn't have Exynos and that's the best version I can afford in terms of monthly plan price...plus, if T-Mobile goes under and the 1700/2100 band isn't taken by anybody (like AT&T) then the phone will be kinda useless, only being able to get 2G/EDGE. And if I was going to consider a phone like that, I'd probably just get the G2x then, which still has basically all features I'd want and a decent amount cheaper than the GSII.
And I had a Streak 7 (both with Gingerbread and Honeycomb)...and found myself using my G2 most of the time, forcing myself to use the Streak 7 instead when possible. Maybe I didn't give it a chance, or I might just not use enough decent Android apps, I dunno.
Anyway, Polaroid recently announced an interesting camera/Android phone combo that includes optical zoom...but phone specs don't seem too spectacular, and it seems to be only available to AT&T. Not sure if it even has HDMI-out, which would be kinda pointless to have such a nice camera and no video-out capabilities...
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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True, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the G2's, especially for being really quick.

It seems like you made your decision long before you made this thread. Get the N8. Voila. Done. Enjoy.

There´s no way I could separate my life from Android, so you know my answer.

Wow, I feel dumb now. I just remembered I'll be getting a Fuji W3 soon, which I'm pretty sure will take decent 2D pictures in addition to 3D. Might as well not bother with the N8 then, might actually consider the Galaxy Nexus then.

In my humble opinion, once you use android as the OS, you'll start to like your phone more than phone/sms, thats why its called smartphone

noooo... dont buy a n8.. u will surely regret...
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You don't want more betterness? Get the N8 then, simple. Seems like you are criticizing the nexus more anyway.
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Galaxy nexus
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HTC one maxx officially announced

Specs list. Headed to sprint and Verizon.
5.9-inch Full HD Display
Quad-Core Snapdragon 600 at 1.7 Ghz
2GB of RAM
16 or 32GB of Storage with support for microSD cards up to 64GB
BoomSound Speakers, Fingerprint Scanner and an UltraPixel Camera
Android 4.3 with Sense 5.5
3,300 mAh – non-removable
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...h-snapdragon-600-and-fingerprint-scanner.html
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Deal breaker without the s800. Nexus 5 I think is next on my list.

Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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I'd feel like an iPhone user upgrading to the same phone for just a bigger screen.

Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.

The functionality is the same because it's literally the same phone but bigger. And it's a huge deal breaker for the people who own the one because what's the point for dishing out a lot of money for literally older tech and a phone you already have. I can't believe I'm saying this but the note 3 looks a lot more promising and the maxx is probably going to be the same price as that. HTC has probably just ruined themselves on this one .
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tkoreaper said:
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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Battery life is a pretty big factor, considering the improved idle times. They would likely satisfy a lot more geeks if they ditched the fingerprint scanner and used that cost for the upgrade to S800. Also lame is the camera downgrade. The 4MP Ultrapixels that has been proven to capture less detail than the competition in daylight, and the lack of OIS which made the One great in lowlight (taking blur free shots at 1/7sec shutter is pretty awesome)...so now it'll be below the competition in daylight and lowlight

5.9" 1080p Screen
Sense 5.5
Sd Card support
Boomsound Speakers
3300MAh battery
Gorgeous harware
Enough reasons to consider it over the Note 3. Atleast imo.
HTC is doing exactly what Samsung first did when they released the first GNote. 1st GNote had exaclty the same specs as the Galaxy s2 did.
So maybe HTC is only testing waters in the phablet territory. If it sees potential sales growth from the One Maxx sales, then One Maxx 2 should be so much sweeter.

FrozenRiff said:
Bummer about not having the s800. I'll wait for next year's one instead
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+1

JEEZUS CHRIST WHAT A FAIL
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tkoreaper said:
Can someone enlighten me why not having an S800 is a big deal? Are we really so hard pressed to need something more powerful? What real-world benefit does the 800 have over the 600 and what would it allow you to do than the 600 can't? As far as I can tell people are complaining just for the sake of complaining because a device doesn't contain bleeding edge technology and they want higher numbers in their benchmarks which translate into jack squat in real-world use. The only thing I can see that's beneficial is the "possibility" of better battery life, that is to say it is more energy efficient than the 600.
I'm happy with the One's performance... It has been able to handle everything I've thrown at it so something more powerful would be pointless to be. Screen real estate, possibly bigger/better speakers, and an SD card slot on the other hand would be awesome and much more benificial to me. You simply cannot compare it to people upgrading their iPhones because, while you may be getting the same hardware, the functionality and physical features of the phone are different.
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This is the same logic HTC has applied to its phones the last few years and look where it has gotten them. The "98% users don't care" argument needs to go. HTC's most influential customers are us here on xda. It's time they start listening to get more word of mouth sales
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"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage

Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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flex360 said:
"Ultra Pixel Camera" = the same sh!tty camera on such a huge phone
that phone is garbage
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I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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XaoSilentrzk said:
I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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word homey
HTC needs to go back to putting in "wow" in their products. Remember when the OG EVO came out and everybody was WOW! The One camera has issues, known fact. Why they are repeating this again is absurd, given their market share. Kudos to HTC for the relatively fast 4.3 update but still, this move won't win back more customers, just staying afloat at best.

It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.

Only saving grace for this phone is if they price it wisely... The One Max by all mean will be considered a low end phablet so let's hope it's priced accordingly.
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TriBeard said:
It was put well by someone in a podcast. This just isn't the start of the next generation of phones, it's the tail end of this one. Samsung always has the note devices as one step ahead of the S series devices. Right or wrong, that created an expectation that HTC would do the same, when in reality there hasn't been any indication for a while now that it would be anything other than what it turned out to be. It's disappointing that they kept the phone essentially the same as the One, but it shouldn't have been as surprising as people are finding it.
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Well put. The max is part of the same generation as the One. The note generally features some small spec bumps from the s phone that comes before it, like a mid ground between two different generations. The s800 architecturally as far as I can understand is just redesigned to handle higher clock speeds, clock per clock performance with the s600 should be on par or identical. 2gb of ram and the screen is the same great screen on this phone with a less dense pixel density, no biggie. The only part im not impressed by is the ugly presentation of the finger print scanner, and the camera hasn't been upgraded. It is a bit disappointing on this phone
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shook187 said:
Coming from the HTC One, I wanted a bigger battery a bigger screen and a better camera, so I went ahead and got me the LG G2 while knowing the HTC max was around the corner with its subpar specs.
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I really like the look of the G2. It does have the S800. I just like the HTC dev community.

XaoSilentrzk said:
I can't ****ing believe HTC went through with this bull**** phone. Excuse my language please, but this is absurd. LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION FOR GODS SAKE. LG AND SONY HAVE CAUGHT UP AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING.
You sit here and ruin the HTC one name by releasing a stupid ass larger version? No extra features? No stylus included to match those features? LG deserves more popularity than this garbage ass decision.
NOTE: I know most people may be offended by my confrontational and blunt tone. Just ignore me as I'm highly upset that HTC keep shooting themselves
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No offense taken. I was looking to get this phone but I'm now leaning towards the note 3. It is very frustrating to watch htc seemingly shoot themselves in the foot. I'm going to wait for a comparison between the two first. I have to ask myself, do I really want a huge metal phone. I mean really, at least give it a pen
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Nexus 5 camera concern....

If the Nexus 5 has the same camera that's in the G2, It's a bad purchase. The camera in low light, indoors is piss poor to be blunt. I am looking to get out of my G2 for the N5 only if the camera is better.

only worse period
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Likely poor camera, but also likely poor sound and certainly no radio, no SD and no battery replacement.
What's the point with these Nexus when you can buy a Samsung with all of that for that money now a days?
Speed? Unnoticeable. Always the last Android version? Well, the GalaxyNexus won't get KitKat. That's how far the updates go with the Nexus. 2 years.
I'm not buying it. At least until I find a reason.

I don't know about you guys but I'm buying a phone, not a camera.
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pxp3 said:
Likely poor camera, but also likely poor sound and certainly no radio, no SD and no battery replacement.
What's the point with these Nexus when you can buy a Samsung with all of that for that money now a days?
Speed? Unnoticeable. Always the last Android version? Well, the GalaxyNexus won't get KitKat. That's how far the updates go with the Nexus. 2 years.
I'm not buying it. At least until I find a reason.
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You either buy a Nexus because you're a developer or because you want dev support. Sure, other devices get some decent ROMs, but Nexus devices always get the latest/greatest ROMs that leverage the newest iteration of the OS.

pxp3 said:
Likely poor camera, but also likely poor sound and certainly no radio, no SD and no battery replacement.
What's the point with these Nexus when you can buy a Samsung with all of that for that money now a days?
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Price. Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One etc etc are more expensive.

pxp3 said:
What's the point with these Nexus when you can buy a Samsung with all of that for that money now a days?
I'm not buying it. At least until I find a reason.
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Where can you buy a brand new Samsung with all of that for $399.99 off contract??
Also the reasons are pretty damn simple, Price to Value its unbeatable, and you get the latest software first.
If price is of no conern there will ALWAYS be better phones.Hell the G2 is debatably a better phone in some aspects. It is only 1mm by 1mm smaller and the G2 has a .2" bigger screen with 800mah more battery.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-5-camera-samples-appear_id48944#3-
yeash

Audio should be pretty much same across the board as it utilises Qualcomms DAC. Usually volume levels vary. However with Franco or Faux they implement sound boost on their respective kernels. Camera who knows too early to state as well as battery life. Storage is user preference. I've ordered one to test it out if I don't like it I will simply return it under DSR.
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crawlgsx said:
Where can you buy a brand new Samsung with all of that for off contract??
Also the reasons are pretty damn simple, Price to Value its unbeatable, and you get the latest software first.
If price is of no conern there will ALWAYS be better phones.Hell the G2 is debatably a better phone in some aspects. It is only 1mm by 1mm smaller and the G2 has a .2" bigger screen with 800mah more battery.
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In Amazon. Galaxy S3 has more and better features that N5 for 300€ new and free.
Hardware? Speed difference is unnoticeable. Android last version? Good for geeks, never a big deal.

If you have to whine about a phone that you don't own then it's likely not the phone for you.

pxp3 said:
In Amazon. Galaxy S3 has more and better features that N5 for 300€ new and free.
Hardware? Speed difference is unnoticeable. Android last version? Good for geeks, never a big deal.
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Does Galaxy S3 have 1080p screen? Does Galaxy S3 have OIS in camera? That's two things the Nexus 5 does better - apart from just performance.

pxp3 said:
In Amazon. Galaxy S3 has more and better features that N5 for 300€ new and free.
Hardware? Speed difference is unnoticeable. Android last version? Good for geeks, never a big deal.
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Seriously? Have you used a Snapdragon 800? I'm guessing not. The S3 is a slug, and TW was awful on the S3. (Yes I had one).
The speed difference is baffling from an S600 to the s800, just using the phone, let alone if you play mobile games. Battery life is also crazy. Comparing it to the Exynos 4 is just... well it is night and day.
And yes, this is a geek phone as well, with latest software and ROM options being far superior.
Anyway comparing an old MUCH lower specced phone like the S3 to anything modern is silly. You aren't JUST gaining a faster phone, there is a lot of other improved tech. Bigger screen, brighter screen, much higher DPI, BT4, Wireless charging, 802.11ac wifi, better camera features/stabilization, etc...

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Does Galaxy S3 have 1080p screen? Does Galaxy S3 have OIS in camera? That's two things the Nexus 5 does better - apart from just performance.
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I really don't notice the difference in the screen between the S3 (720p) and the S4 or any other with 1080p. Some people do, I don't. The camera in the S3 and S4 (which I can find new for 380€) is superb, while the N5 is predictably a bit worse, even with the OIS.
Anyway, no phone is perfect. The sound in S3 and S4 is not so good either, the S4 doesn't have a FM Radio, the screens outdoors are very hard to see... hmm.

So about the camera...I took my kid trick or treating last night...With flash on, i'd hit the shutter button, the flash would come on and it was seriously focus for upwards of 8 secs before it took the pic. It was a crap shoot on whether you could make out the pic or not. Some guy said he's buying a phone, not a camera, but these companies are making phones so nice that a third party camera isn't needed unless you need a DSLR. Therefore, i rely on my phone cam.
Coming from the S4, the G2 camera is horrible at best at night. During the day it's great.

I have a g2 and it's the best smartphone camera I've used yet? Have owed most smartphones...including lumias. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about...piss poor?
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EVOme said:
Coming from the S4, the G2 camera is horrible at best at night. During the day it's great.
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Pretty much, as well as sucking at taking pictures of anything that moves.
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trh1341 said:
I have a g2 and it's the best smartphone camera I've used yet? Have owed most smartphones...including lumias. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about...piss poor?
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the G2 is a great camera in daylight / still photos. I agree with him though personally I find it very poor in dark lighting or moving objects. HTC One was better in those 2 regards, but still day pictures the G2 slaughtered it.

_MetalHead_ said:
I don't know about you guys but I'm buying a phone, not a camera.
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Exactly. For photos I have a nice DSLR.

geoldr said:
Exactly. For photos I have a nice DSLR.
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Thats wonderful when you KNOW your going to need to take good pictures. Carrying a DSLR around on my bike or with me 24/7 isn't exactly an enticing option
That said the camera is one of the lower priorities to me as well, but still, it is important to most.

pxp3 said:
In Amazon. Galaxy S3 has more and better features that N5 for 300€ new and free.
Hardware? Speed difference is unnoticeable. Android last version? Good for geeks, never a big deal.
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S3 is a lagfest
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