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Nookcolor thoughts after CES

Now with CES behind us but with thoughts of all those new tablets still fresh in our heads, anyone still think a rooted Nookcolor will be able to hold it's own against the tide that's coming.
Anyone with a rooted Nookcolor-will you still buy a tablet this year and if so which one, or will the Nookcolor still do.
I think the price point of the Nookcolor is it's greatest strength now.

I agree for $250, the NC can't be beat. Honeycomb on NC
I do plan on getting a new tab, maybe one of 10.1" running Honeycomb but don't know which one yet.

My opinion is...
The Nook is a book reading device first. Its a make shift tablet second.
It is not really fair to compare it to tablets that are designed to be tablets.
With that said, the newest thing is always around the corner. What is NOT around the corner is the hundreds more dollars for me to spend that these new devices cost as compared to the Nook.
Once the Nook gets a stable and functional Froyo, it will put it a very good advantage for at least the next year with app support.
It will take some time for Tegra2 to build up steam and drop in price. Meanwhile you have all of these older devices/tablets/cellphones still running older systems.
Just because 3.0 is coming up does not mean that all support will stop for the older devices. Developers would be foolish to stop supporting the older builds.
So, the answer for me is YES, the Nook is a great buy at this moment in time.

I have to agree with the price point being the NC's largest draw and strength. For $250 you can't get a better piece of hardware. Once we can get honeycomb (and by we I mean you people smarter than myself) on the NC we'll be flying high.

From what I have read, which may be BS, honeycomb will require dual processors to function properly, so I doubt nook color can handle it.
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There's always something "better" available "real soon now". I'd have to check, but none of the CES announcements included either a price for the device or a release date. Heck, the Adam took almost a year from CES to release, and even then it had a very limited release and still hasn't shipped. But you can go over to B&N and pick up a NC right now.

There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785

Oh, and if you don't know who Dan Morrill is...
http://www.google.com/profiles/morrildl

I just picked up a Nook Color for $180 from CL...but even at full price I didn't see anything that blew me away from CES. Sure the newer tablets will have better CPUs etc. but I doubt they will have the Screen quality of the NC at this price-point. For me what sold me on the NC is the ability to Root it, make it a very functional tablet (even if so claim its a book reader first, I think it makes an amazing tablet). I am one of the few that do not need a webcam etc. And let's not forget the amazing Screen quality!

CES Shows some really awesome looking devices but the market at the moment is pricing everything retardedly high. For the moment the $250 NC is the best bang for the buck for a simple Tablet. And I do fully expect to see a Honeycomb port in due time.
Untill the market gets saturated with actually good devices around the $300 price point and not the $499 point, (Especially the 3G only devices?! Not everyone wants or needs 3G!).

From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet. I would expect with the fact that Android is open, costs for these devices would be driven down significantly. However, the new crop of Android tablets are up there with Win OS tablets (almost), yet don't have a full featured OS.
I agree with spikey911 that this is an ereader first, Android tablet second. To me, having it run android apps is a benefit, not the primary reason I got it.
I would love a dual core or a Tegra 2 tablet. Would I pay more than $300 for one? Absolutely not. By the time that comes down in price, the next crop of the "greatest" comes out.
The only way I would upgrade to different tablet is if/when the Lenovo LePad/U1 comes down in price. Then I could chuck the NC and my Core 2 duo netbook.

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From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet.
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging? I picked the nook color because the ability to root and the build quality was outstanding. Closest to that of the iPad. With the new crop of devices coming they are not bringing anything new, dual core yay but other than that what else. For those with nooks is 4-500 dollars worth a larger screen? What can you do on those that you cant do on the nook color? Also nook is still on 2.1 so with froyo there should be a slight speed increase.
Dont think anything from CES was mind blowing and would make me considering giving up my nook.

Outside of Android, Gigabyte just announced a reasonably nice Win7 Tablet with a N550 (duel core) and even a 320G HD supposidly aimed at the sub $300 market. If so with a reasonable capacitive screen it would be one of the first reasonable Win7 Tablets. For a device that has netbook specs it may be the first to finally get it that they need to be priced reasonable for the reasonable specs. Touchscreen replacement for a keyboard should not cost $200 more.

I'm still waiting patiently for the NC with 2G/3G... Anyone know when it will be out?

myv6mustang said:
That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging?
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I think that we are seeing the NC at razor thin markup (almost cost) due to the "razor/razor blades" marketing model that ebooks use. B&N expect to make all their money on book sales, not the hardware. Until we have a Tegra2 KindleIV to compare to, I doubt we'll know for sure

I'm not looking for my Nook to replace my laptop. The thing that got me is the performance/price and the big thing: not having a data plan. I don't understand who has the money to buy a $500 device and then pay $25-50/month for 24 months. I can buy a really nice laptop for $1100-1700.
Homer

For me the NC is a tablet first & an ereader second! At least that's the way I use it. IMO it has enough going on hardware wise that the only time that it is an ereader first, is that period of time between opening the box & rooting it! Just because it doesn't have a few hard keys, camera or GPS & USB host doesn't mean it is not a viable tablet. Actually, a rooted NC has more tablet functions than it does ereader functions. I am very happy with the NC without these features, as that kept the price where I could afford it. With it competing in the ereader market, B&N had to price it accordingly. If it had been competing as a tablet, it could have demanded a much higher price. I was not looking for a laptop replacement, just a more portable connected device that doesn't require a data contract.
Cheers,
kev

Best tablet for under $300. Once Froyo is successfully ported and BT able kernel it will be even better. There is no way you will find another 7" tablet with capacitance screen, 1024x600 res, 512MB RAM, 8GB Internal Storage for anywhere near this price. B&N is selling them at a low price to get people to buy their ebooks.
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911jason said:
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
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Glad it was BS.
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duloz said:
Glad it was BS.
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I am not convinced that not having some pretty strong minimum hardware specs is a good thing. Microsoft was pretty smart by setting the bar high on their Win Phone 7 units. I think the Android community would benefit from having some specs that ensure that a tablet or phone will perform fast and smooth. You know that Apple will increase their specs for the next iPad and it will suck if honeycomb runs poorly on previous gen tablets.

[Q] I WANT to want the Streak 7, but ...

Tegra 2, 512MB RAM, 4G speeds on an unlimited data plan; what's not to like?
All right, I know there are some quibbles out there. It only runs FroYo (presumably with no dual processor support), the screen is "low res," and the battery life sucks. As for the screen, I saw it and it looks great to me. It's the same ppi as the iPad, and I don't see anyone crying about the "crappy" screen on the iPad.
As for the other two issues, the battery and FroYo, I would like to say they don't really matter; but they do. Or, maybe they don't. That's what I'm not sure of, so I'm here to ask you people for some educated opinions before I take the plunge.
What's the future of Dell Streak 7 development? Everything hinges on this question, for me (my only Android device is an OG Droid, so I'm a bit spoiled with ROMs).
Battery life will be improved greatly with some tweaking (such as adding Honeycomb, underclocking settings, new kernels, removing T-Mo bloatware and such), and FroYo can be replaced. As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), the S7 has an unlocked bootloader and is fully rootable/ROMable.
My issue is, I don't see a lot going on for this tablet. It's near perfect hardware (though I suppose the screen and battery could be better, but they're good enough for the price). Right size, right processor, enough RAM, 4G, GPS, all that. Why isn't there more development for it? Even the Nook Color has HC running on it, and the XOOM is already overclocked.
Is this tablet a dead end if I'm looking for one with custom ROMs? I wish I knew how to code for Android, but I don't. I really appreciate all the devs do, and I couldn't live with an Android with no dev support. I had an Archos A70 for about a month, but returned it because it was so limited in this regard. Is the S7 another player with great potential that will probably, ultimately, be left behind?
Even if all it gets is Honeycomb stable and not much else, I'd still probably pick up this tab.
What are your thoughts and opinions?

As it is right now the s7 has no dev support. But who knows if that will change. It is rootable and the bootloader is unlocked. I enjoy mine.
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I know I picked mine up for hacking but I don't think devs will really be looking at it till honeycomb. And probably for dell to drop the source code.
Personally though I think it's a great tablet even with stock froyo.
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I have a streak 7 and I love it. Its very fast and I have no qualms with its screen. Only thing id rather have than the streak is an Atrix. Haha, anyone wanna trade lol.
Anyway, its a great tablet but no dev work is a minus.

Any info is highly appreciated

So I have a brother that is looking into purchasing a nook, but would also want an android tablet but I've seen this nook rooted and have honeycomb ported. And well for half the price I think it worth it. But what would you guys say since you guys are using it hands on
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Well, there's lots of reading in the forum for more info. In a nutshell, I'd say the NC is a nice piece of hardware with a great screen for a great price. It does a lot well, but it is no Xoom. Of course, you can buy like 3 NCs for the price of one Xoom, and considering the relatively underdeveloped market that is tablets (android apps especially), I don't think the Xoom or ipad are worth the money. The NC on the other hand is a nice eReader with benefits right out of the nifty packaging. It also is fun for the tinkerer and the modder at heart, yet the mods (CM7) are totally useable to anyone that can use a smartphone. Oh, and you can run all your mods on an SD card and not burn your warranty.
If you are looking to use honeycomb, then you probably wont be happy. It just hasn't been out long enough to get the best experience.

Why would they not be happy with Honeycomb? I've read mostly positive reviews. Also it mostly Android except for a bunch of GUI tweaks so saying it's not fully cooked is a bit of a stretch!

I guess I just found it less smooth than CM7. Has Google released the source code to the release version yet? I thought that was stalling development.

HC on the nook is not working well still due to not having source out. With that said, CM7 now has tablet tweaks which makes Android 2.3 into, basically, a tablet OS and works great on the Nook. If your brother wants a good android tab for under 300 bucks, the NC is the way to go. If he wants to spend the 600-800 on the Xoom, then he'll be happier. For me, it was the price difference that made me go with the Nook. You should be seeing more official tabs pop up over the next year, so if he just wants to break into the android tablet market, a NC might be the way to go, then save up for a better one and buy it next year.

Thanks everyone that was ALL great information he getting nook
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I love my NC, with CM7 it rocks even more!
Yesterday I saw the EEE Pad for $399 and it has me drooling
Good choice if you need a 10" tablet with all the bells and whistles (gps, cameras, dual core, honeycomb).

britoso said:
I love my NC, with CM7 it rocks even more!
Yesterday I saw the EEE Pad for $399 and it has me drooling
Good choice if you need a 10" tablet with all the bells and whistles (gps, cameras, dual core, honeycomb).
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I love my NC too! But I just got a line on a new Viewsonic Gtab for $250 bucks!
Can we all say "Next Project"--LOL!

britoso said:
I love my NC, with CM7 it rocks even more!
Yesterday I saw the EEE Pad for $399 and it has me drooling
Good choice if you need a 10" tablet with all the bells and whistles (gps, cameras, dual core, honeycomb).
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Yeah, and Anand had a pretty good review of it. Thankfully, Asus doesn't cut corners on the screen quality. The nice thing about the Eee is that there will probably be many more models to come. Good for when tablets finally find their niche and I can get something good for $300 or so.

Acer Iconia Tab will be 7 inches, Honeycomb

I've come across the news that the Acer Iconia Tab A100 will be a 7-inch Honeycomb device, same resolution as the Nook Color. This gives me hope for the prospects of a "better Honeycomb" for our own tablets. Perhaps even if it's not open sourced by then, we might see a higher quality port from the Iconia, more functional than from the SDK?
Sent from my Nook Color!

if it sells for $300 or less and has GPS I will have one. I need it for an all in one car system.

iolinux333 said:
if it sells for $300 or less and has GPS I will have one. I need it for an all in one car system.
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Probably won't be $300 considering that so far the best priced Android tab that is not marketed as an eReader available (sorta) is the Transformer at $399, but if they can get it to $350 and have a GPS and microphone I would get it as my new all around system. I would want the microphone for voice input while driving, not to mention I like to record seminars and stuff.

Reviews on the ten inch model are excellent so far, so I look forward to testing this when it comes out. Ideally if a North American cellular version comes out, at a reasonable price, I could replace my Nook.
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everytime a device similar to a nook comes out with honeycomb on it people ask if it will help us... unless it has exactly all the same options as the nook or they release honeycomb for the nook.. it wont help so we'll just have to wait for the source release

cmstlist said:
Reviews on the ten inch model are excellent so far, so I look forward to testing this when it comes out. Ideally if a North American cellular version comes out, at a reasonable price, I could replace my Nook.
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I was just at BB playing with this display model and it was awesome. The price tag on it was $459 or $449...... definitely worth every penny. It was smooth as silk. I don't think I would get one though. I love using my NC fot its primary function; reading books. The 1.2 update just added gravy to it. I hardly use my GB sd card anymore. But, if you are in the market for a new tablet, I find the acer more responsive and i feel you get the best bang for your buck. More so than the Xoom.

I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.

poofyhairguy said:
I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.
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I don't like how it looks on a Nook Color when adapted from the SDK. But I would imagine that if Acer is releasing this on a finished product, they're going to have figured out how to adapt it to be as good as possible. Certainly with Google working on "Ice Cream Sandwich" 3.1 to unite the phone and tablet streams, it makes sense that there should be some middle-ground way of perfecting it for the 7" form factor.

poofyhairguy said:
I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.
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I've had no problems running Honeycomb on the NC, in fact, I love it. I think the improvements made to the UI make sense on anything bigger than a phone screen (3 to 4 inches), it doesn't necessarily need to be 10 inches.
Whenever the 3.0 source is released through AOSP and we have a fully realized build of Honeycomb for the NC, I think it is going to really impress a lot of people. Especially looking at the prices for other Honeycomb devices.

To nook or not to nook?

So I'm in the market for a new toy to tinker with and I'm wondering if I should continue to look at the nook color as an option. I just bought a HP touchpad that I'm planning on returning simply cause I'm used to working with android and CM and don't want to fragment myself further.
Is the nook a worthy investment; do I have to worry about the community walking away from it like I see they are beginning to do with the evolution I own, or should I wait for some of the other 7-9" android offerings in the roster? Any input is appreciated.
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OGPI said:
So I'm in the market for a new toy to tinker with and I'm wondering if I should continue to look at the nook color as an option. I just bought a HP touchpad that I'm planning on returning simply cause I'm used to working with android and CM and don't want to fragment myself further.
Is the nook a worthy investment; do I have to worry about the community walking away from it like I see they are beginning to do with the evolution I own, or should I wait for some of the other 7-9" android offerings in the roster? Any input is appreciated.
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I love my nook, but I think you may like the HTC Express better, (the flyer\evo view)
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I like my NookColor a lot.
I have not used a Android tablet like Xoom or Acer or Asus to compare.
But it seems to work well.
ManualNooter = Works Very nicely, and also lets you have the NookColor stock OS look.
CM7 Works a good bit snappier imho than ManualNootered NC.
Mine is ManualNooter'ed as my wife reads now and then and does not like the CM7 interface.
I do a lot of reading and posting on ClubNook.com forums on mine, for the most part it does well. (I have it O/C also)

The Nook has a great screen, low price and it's the perfect size and weight. You can hold the Nook for long times without your hand becoming fatigued. I've used a few other tablets and I can honestly say I prefer the Nook. The Nook also has an active community with some great talent, I personally believe we'll see an ICS port and continued support for some time.

One of the best features of the Nook is that it boots from the sd card first. This device is, to my knowledge, the only android device to have this feature. Almost makes it unbrickable. But as has already been said, the dev community for the nook is great and cyanogen, with all the recent improvements, puts the nook on par with many of the higher end devices on the market. While there are a number of very good android tablets on the market, the nook, for the money, is one of the best values out there.
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It cannot be beat for $200 (re-certified). Everyone who I have shown this thing to wants one, including a coworker who has a Xoom tablet already (not to replace it, but to have in addition to because of size).
My Mom uses hers for:
Angry Birds and Solitaire
Epub format books (Moon Reader +)
Grocery list (Grocery King)
Viewing pictures in Gallery
Email
Web browsing
Pandora Radio
Netflix
Alternately, my Wife has a 1G iPad and would not trade it for any Android tablet.

If you genuinely want to tinker with it, then you want a nook. It's virtually impossible to brick, and if you did somehow manage to brick it you'd only be out $200/$250.
If you just want a cool toy -- you probably still want a nook. It has a great screen, and is speedy enough for just about anything you throw at it. Unless you get a really great deal on something with a much better processor, the nook is the best bang for the buck.
If you want it to show off -- it depends on who you're showing it off to. Execs probably won't be impressed by anything unless it looks like an iPad, techy people will think it's awesome, and average people will be intimidated by the idea of hacking an ebook to be a tablet.

Hi,
I have both a NC and a Asus Transformer (and an iPad), and am an App developer.
My 2 cents is that the Nook Color is a great ebook reader, but a bit limited as a tablet. Honeycomb is a reasonable first cut at a tablet interface where has the NC's 2.2 or CM7 both feel like they were meant for a phone. So if I wanted the tablet experience I would spend the extra money and get a true Android table running Honeycomb.
Jerry

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barnes-Noble-NO...US_Tablets&hash=item2eb6f2e551#ht_2550wt_1396
$180 + free shipping. Although I ordered mine from there and a pixel was broken but they are replacing it.

My $0.02:
For a guy who love to tinker but doesn't want to spend a lot of cash-o-la, the NC is awesome. Even if I had unlimited funds, I would still get a 7" tablet. 10" (like the girlfriend's Viewsonic Gtablet) is too big, and the speed difference between our processor and a tegra for what I do (PDFs, surfing, etc) doesn't really come into play (I am overclocked at 1.2 GHz, however). If you want to play HD vid (on a non HD screen?), or want HDMI out or a full sized usb port, get something else).
This is the best community I've found on XDA, and the developers here are nothing short of amazing.
As mentioned earlier, you can get a NC for $180 on ebay. It's tough to beat. Then again, I have a desktop for CFD, a laptop for portable power, and a NookColor for accessing stuff on the fly. I couldn't justify spending $500+ (give or take) on a Android tablet when I could buy a laptop that could do a lot more and still get a NC for the same price.

Well the issue isn't money although I am a very frugal/ value conscious individual. Like I said I have a HP touchpad but I plan on returning it cause of the size; which I feel instead very portaboe, and due to me being so deep into android that I'm not extremely interested in webos. I got a great deal on the touchpad but I like to get the most enjoyment out of my time and from the capabilities of the NC I've seen on YouTube it is a tempting device regardless of price. My only fear is that it will soon be a forgotten device like I see happening to my HTC evo. Thanks for all your input.
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