The differences between branded and unbranded o2x? - LG Optimus 2x

Hello everyone I'm new to android and was wondering what are the (title) except the extra app and bookmarks. I heard GB has been released for 2 weeks now but I didn't get it yet. I bought a subsidized phone on Vodafone (Romania). I saw on a site that subsidized phones have different product codes or w/e they are called, so they can only receive updates from the operator . If so is there any way to change that so that i receive updates from LG and not the operator? I'm sorry if anything similar has been posted but I didn't find anything.

Just flash it?
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App

You can flash the Euro /Romania Open ROM or you can wait until 21 nov when LG claims they will release the VDF RO update.
If you decide to force the update, here are some hints

Thanks for the useful info, but I was wondering what exactly dosen't let me do the normal update?

Hello,
I spoke with someone from LG Romania and he said that Vodafone (for P990) and Orange (for Black) have to approve the update. There is no difference between Branded and Unbranded O2x.
You can see the discussion here: http://www.facebook.com/lgnews (see the wall post that announces Gingerbread)

Ah great, I got it thanks for info.
EDIT: I thought VF will modify the software somehow

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[INFO] 2.2 (Froyo) News and Speculation Thread for Milestone

SOURCE:
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read that theres gonna be a 2.2 for german o2 see here.................
lets hope its happening! not just a typo!
https://service.o2online.de/portal/...ustomerWebshopPostpaid&tariffId=N-HWO-H-NC-20
Webkit Browser - durch Android 2.2 Update Flash-fähig
...Englisch: Webkit browser- through Android 2.2 Update Flash-compatible
Nice!
Maybe we will see Froyo sometime soon.
Thanks for the heads up.
I just hope they ain't getting our hopes up for nothing.....
Too bad Motorola officially stated that it isn't yet even sure about a Milestone update. The O2 site is not Motorola. They may simply still believe what Moto said half a year ago - that the Milestone is Flash-ready, nothing more, nothing less.
i think i read Germany o2 was mistaken about the 2.2........
That's non-sense...they only say that flash WOULD work if 2.2 would be running...you shouldn't interpret to much in such sentences...
Twitter message from o2online_de:
Aktueller Froyo o2 Wetterbericht: Desire mitte/ende August, Galaxy S mitte September, Milestone [!] mitte/ende September, Flipout&X10 tbd.
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Therefore chances are quite good that we'll get an official froyo version for our milestone...
Commander9000 said:
Twitter message from o2online_de:
Therefore chances are quite good that we'll get an official froyo version for our milestone...
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C'mon... the official froyo will be delivered by the end of Sep.
Not sure about this, its kind of contradicting. Although I don't know any german it states this is some sort of update for the webkit browser? Froyo's browser doesn't use webkit any more, it uses the V8 engine used in google chrome.
Motorola Milestone To Receive “Froyo” In September
Here's the link, folks:
Motorola Milestone To Receive “Froyo” In September
lolz! Look who is talking.
Its hard to trust company like O2 which is already a non-trustworthy company. It sold millions of O2 XDA in India and other countries without service and support network. I bought one a year back and after few months I discovered they discontinued the support in India and suggesting to send fauty devices for service to Singapore, another third country.
Lolz! As obviously they are just resellers of Milestone, it seems they are going to send same fake MotoFrenzy2.2 to us with some branding changes....damn you O2. Keep your mouth shut.
Let Motorola speak themselves.
indiacam said:
lolz! Look who is talking.
Its hard to trust company like O2 which is already a non-trustworthy company. It sold millions of O2 XDA in India and other countries without service and support network. I bought one a year back and after few months I discovered they discontinued the support in India and suggesting to send fauty devices for service to Singapore, another third country.
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Are you sure?!
I think it's better for us to wait and dont trust any other 3rd party news or tweets..just wait for the official news...if any...
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drkdeath said:
Are you sure?!
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Why you are not sure? Now www.seeo2.com was closed which was working fine before with all products and details. Now that link goes to www.myxda.com and select support and select india. wait....why trust me. Check this screenshot with address of thier site.
O2 does not produce anything. They are simply resellers. They have different websites in different countries, but all of them are not properly organized and sell same devices with different names. If they are manufactures why they will sell models from sony, motorola, etc together on thier site? e.g. http://www.o2online.de/ sells blackberry samsung vivaz nokia netzabdeckung htc motorola surfstick milestone sony ericsson palm pre X6 X10 n97 mini iphone toshiba. its so funny to see all companies in one site. it looks like some kind of ebay shop.
Anyways check the screenshot about singapore service center notification. Now why someone will send his mobile to another country for repair? It is not logical and not even practical at the same time.
I dont trust it now at all. others may trust who dont know what o2 is...
indiacam said:
Why you are not sure? Now
O2 does not produce anything. They are simply resellers. They have different websites in different countries, but all of them are not properly organized and sell same devices with different names. If they are manufactures why they will sell models from sony, motorola, etc together on thier site? e.g. O2 sells blackberry samsung vivaz nokia netzabdeckung htc motorola surfstick milestone sony ericsson palm pre X6 X10 n97 mini iphone toshiba. its so funny to see all companies in one site. it looks like some kind of ebay shop.
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O2 is a cell phone provider, i.e. they have a network, like Sprint or Verizon in the US, and they will sell you a phone to use on it, along with a contract. What's so unusual about that?
I don't know how coordinated they are internationally, so it's entirely possible the service is bad in one country but great in another, but no reason to bash them like this.
In Germany, Vodafone (another provider) and O2 ship customized firmware on their Milestones, which they test in-house. Same for other providers in other countries. That's why the 2.1 rollout was so fragmented, and that's also why O2 would know if 2.2 is coming, so there.
Also:
robertosandros said:
Not sure about this, its kind of contradicting. Although I don't know any german it states this is some sort of update for the webkit browser? Froyo's browser doesn't use webkit any more, it uses the V8 engine used in google chrome.
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I'd suggest you do some research
V8 is a JavaScript engine, while WebKit is a complete browser engine. The two will happily run side by side in the same browser as long as you deactivate WebKit's built-in JavaScript engine.
Google has been doing just that in Chrome for a while now, and tweaked V8 for mobile use in Froyo. That doesn't mean they dropped WebKit though
T045T said:
O2 is a cell phone provider, i.e. they have a network, like Sprint or Verizon in the US, and they will sell you a phone to use on it, along with a contract. What's so unusual about that?
I don't know how coordinated they are internationally, so it's entirely possible the service is bad in one country but great in another, but no reason to bash them like this.
In Germany, Vodafone (another provider) and O2 ship customized firmware on their Milestones, which they test in-house. Same for other providers in other countries. That's why the 2.1 rollout was so fragmented, and that's also why O2 would know if 2.2 is coming, so there.
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I exactly meant what you said "they are not manufacturers." obviously I will express my own experience in my own country. O2 does not exist in India, they sold handsets with different branded outlets, gave support contract to some Indian local companies who never gave proper service and now they are telling us to send device to "Expansys, Singapore" This is so frustrating. I had to get it repaired by paying heavy amount from private service cente while in warranty and I could not even complain and the seller told me to send it to singapore. Bad O2, at least in India.
edit: O2 actually should not declare things like this on its own and wait for original manufacturers. Motorola is doubtfully quiet and others are declaring on thier own. I still hope Motorola will roll 2.2 froyo in next few months after all previous devices are rolled with 2.1 update. 2.1-update1 is still rolling down all over the world to many devices as per reports from android users from different countries with different brands. I got mine around 15 July.
indiacam said:
I exactly meant what you said "they are not manufacturers." obviously I will express my own experience in my own country. O2 does not exist in India, they sold handsets with different branded outlets, gave support contract to some Indian local companies who never gave proper service and now they are telling us to send device to "Expansys, Singapore" This is so frustrating. I had to get it repaired by paying heavy amount from private service cente while in warranty and I could not even complain and the seller told me to send it to singapore. Bad O2, at least in India.
edit: O2 actually should not declare things like this on its own and wait for original manufacturers. Motorola is doubtfully quiet and others are declaring on thier own. I still hope Motorola will roll 2.2 froyo in next few months after all previous devices are rolled with 2.1 update. 2.1-update1 is still rolling down all over the world to many devices as per reports from android users from different countries with different brands. I got mine around 15 July.
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None of the providers are manufacturers. None. They all provide/resell phones for several manufacturers. Unless what you are saying is that the subsidiaries or O2 partners in your country are selling phones but not servicing them?
O2 can declare what they want. Why do they have to 'wait on Motorola'? They are a major provider and would surely know better than you or me if an update is in the works. Maybe they heard something from Motorola that was not declared publicly.
TheSSJ said:
That's non-sense...they only say that flash WOULD work if 2.2 would be running...you shouldn't interpret to much in such sentences...
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Besides what they are saying on the site is as above:
Flash would work only IF Android 2.2 is on your phone.
More 2.2 news, this time from Optus in Australia:
http://ausdroid.net/2010/08/05/android-2-2-for-motorola-milestone-before-the-years-end/
o2 is a provider which, like almost every other provider, HAS software developers who does branding, updates and app-development, so I am SURE that o2 will provide a 2.2 update, no matter what Motorola will or won't do.

[Q] Buying a SGS

I want to order a SGS and I have two choices:
1. Buy a unlocked, unbranded one for 469 EUR or,
2. Buy one without subscription but blocked for 6 or 12 months to the actual operator for 429 EUR. The telecom is Bouygues Telecom from France.
If i choose to get the second one i will have to unlock it, since im not going to use it in France, can it be done (easily)?
Also if i choose to get the second offer would i be able to install official I9000 firmwares released from Samsung, XEU version (like JP6 Froyo released lately), or do i have to wait for the telecom to release their own?
Thanks.
Anyone? I really need some advice fast cause I need to order it soon.
Thanks.
Bump!
I don't really like to do this, but 3 days 0 answers :O.
It's not difficult to unlock. If you read a bit through the forum you can do it very easy . And about the update, u can do any update you want through kies simply by changing the registry and fooling it that you have a phone from england or US or whatever . Hope this helps. Good luck
ntomi said:
I want to order a SGS and I have two choices:
1. Buy a unlocked, unbranded one for 469 EUR or,
2. Buy one without subscription but blocked for 6 or 12 months to the actual operator for 429 EUR. The telecom is Bouygues Telecom from France.
If i choose to get the second one i will have to unlock it, since im not going to use it in France, can it be done (easily)?
Also if i choose to get the second offer would i be able to install official I9000 firmwares released from Samsung, XEU version (like JP6 Froyo released lately), or do i have to wait for the telecom to release their own?
Thanks.
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I would buy it unlocked. When you have already pay 400 EUR a difference in 40 EUR is not a big deal. There is less problems too when you buy it unlocked and you will not have to unlock it yourself, and you might damage it if you don't unlock it right.
almi88 said:
It's not difficult to unlock. If you read a bit through the forum you can do it very easy . And about the update, u can do any update you want through kies simply by changing the registry and fooling it that you have a phone from england or US or whatever . Hope this helps. Good luck
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People only read through when they do something wrong.
[Ramad] said:
People only read through when they do something wrong.
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I read the important threads even though I didn't do anything wrong to my device
Thanks for your replies.
Surely i read threads regarding unlocking, just wanted to be sure. I'm more worried about the branding and updates though.
I just ordered my unbranded/unlocked Galaxy S , a bit pricier around 500 EUR but that's the medium price for the device in market right now .

when will canada receive 2.3 update?

does anybody know if Canada will receive 2.3 update? if not how can we get?
lg canada says the phone is still fairly new why should they update it and lg usa says it should be soon cause the g2x got theirs and wind mobile said sometime in august so we can only hope its in the next few months but thats wishful thinking
btw for information and what other options there are look through the forums please there are tons of answers out there for what you are looking and use gingerbread from paul its pretty awesome

[Q] Unbranded UK Xperia Z

Hi, I haven't found a definitive answer to this so wondering if someone can help me?
Looking to buy this wonderful phone unbranded out of the box if possible, so I get the official updates when they are released rather than waiting for UK carriers...is the only way to get this to buy from Sony direct, or do shops like the Carphone Warehouse give unbranded ones out with contracts (like they did with my HTC One-X?)
Any advice welcome. Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
Thanks for reading.
rowlarry said:
Hi, I haven't found a definitive answer to this so wondering if someone can help me?
Looking to buy this wonderful phone unbranded out of the box if possible, so I get the official updates when they are released rather than waiting for UK carriers...is the only way to get this to buy from Sony direct, or do shops like the Carphone Warehouse give unbranded ones out with contracts (like they did with my HTC One-X?)
Any advice welcome. Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
Thanks for reading.
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All phones from Carphone Warehouse are Unbranded out the box, although buying from Sony directly will get you an Unbranded handset, they're typically only ever branded if you buy direct from a Carrier E.G o2, Vodafone, 3 e.ct.
Hope this helps!
Read some of the threads on here and you will soon see that those of us going unbranded UK (I got mine from Amazon) have actually received the opposite treatment.
UK generic is now two updates behind and seemingly one of the last to receive updates, I can only assume Sony is bending over to the carriers and screwing over those who have actually paid the full amount up front
And to others reading no I don't want to flash a different regions Rom and don't see why we should.
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rowlarry said:
Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
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Yes, you can just flash whatever firmware customization you like and it will stay like that. For example, if you flash 'Generic DE' firmware, you will get all future updates together with Germany.
You can change your customization at any time or return to your original customization by just flashing the appropriate FTF file, or by following this guide if you are rooted:
[GUIDE] Download ANY firmware customization with SUS and create an FTF with Flashtool
So in fact it doesn't matter where you buy your phone. Just buy it where it's the cheapest and then change your firmware customization to whatever you want
alexp999 said:
And to others reading no I don't want to flash a different regions Rom and don't see why we should.
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Why? To get faster updates. It's a world phone, so you can use it in all regions, no matter the firmware customization.
You could also flash the 'Vodafone UK' firmware, they already have 10.1.1.A.1.307.
If you don't mind waiting a long time to get new software, then you can keep your 'Generic UK' version
Apollo89 said:
Yes, you can just flash whatever firmware customization you like and it will stay like that. For example, if you flash 'Generic DE' firmware, you will get all future updates together with Germany.
You can change your customization at any time or return to your original customization by just flashing the appropriate FTF file, or by following this guide if you are rooted:
[GUIDE] Download ANY firmware customization with SUS and create an FTF with Flashtool
So in fact it doesn't matter where you buy your phone. Just buy it where it's the cheapest and then change your firmware customization to whatever you want
Why? To get faster updates. It's a world phone, so you can use it in all regions, no matter the firmware customization.
You could also flash the 'Vodafone UK' firmware, they already have 10.1.1.A.1.307.
If you don't mind waiting a long time to get new software, then you can keep your 'Generic UK' version
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Has anyone uploaded the voda .307 fw?
scorpi786 said:
Has anyone uploaded the voda .307 fw?
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I don't think so, but you can just root your phone temporary (which is very fast and easy) and then follow the guide to change your customization number. After flashing with Sony Update Service or Flashtool, the root will be gone. If you would do so, then please be so kind to create an FTF and share it on xda
Wow, many thanks for your helpful replies. Coming from the world of HTC where we were supplied with prompt updates to unbranded handsets first with the carriers having to wait, this is a surprise that the opposite seems to happen here.
Good to hear that you can seemingly unbrand and then forget about it- and it looks easy to flash firmware etc, seems a lot less restrictive then I am used to, have people found this?
I will find a phone at the right price and just buy then. As an aside, what kind of branding/bloatware is seen on the carrier versions of the software? Is it heavy or quite light?
Thanks again.
The Xperia SP my mum recently got from T-Mobile was pretty minimal in terms of branding/bloatware.
In fact I could not see any branding, just a couple of pre-loaded apps. I think because they use the same customisation for EE, Orange and T-Mobile now, so they can't actually brand it.
Might be different for other handsets, but it is running basically the same software as the Z.

[Q] Unlock Vodafone p10

Hi All
Apologies as this have probably come up loads but i can't get the "reassurance" i need to do it.
Basically i am the proud owner of the p10 via vodfone uk ... i am looking at maybe unlocking the phone (I know this can be done) but the outcome i want is for it to essentially be stock or in other words as if i purchased an unlocked P10 on amazon for example.
The reason for this is i would like quicker access to updates in Europe rather than wait for the carrier to arrange them. The software from vodafone UK doesn't seem to be as smooth as when i see reviews based on unlocked phones ? some micro stuttering in the app draw and chrome seems to run badly. I know some phones shipped with slower onboard storage but mine was a shade under 800 mbs when i checked so all OK on that front.
So once i have unlocked the phone how do i then make the phone as if its a standard unlocked model ... suspect it would involve flashing a new ROM ? I am sticking with Vodafone for now so is an unlock code even needed? could i flash a stock rom other the vodafone software ?
Many thanks in advance
jimmipp said:
Hi All
Apologies as this have probably come up loads but i can't get the "reassurance" i need to do it.
Basically i am the proud owner of the p10 via vodfone uk ... i am looking at maybe unlocking the phone (I know this can be done) but the outcome i want is for it to essentially be stock or in other words as if i purchased an unlocked P10 on amazon for example.
The reason for this is i would like quicker access to updates in Europe rather than wait for the carrier to arrange them. The software from vodafone UK doesn't seem to be as smooth as when i see reviews based on unlocked phones ? some micro stuttering in the app draw and chrome seems to run badly. I know some phones shipped with slower onboard storage but mine was a shade under 800 mbs when i checked so all OK on that front.
So once i have unlocked the phone how do i then make the phone as if its a standard unlocked model ... suspect it would involve flashing a new ROM ? I am sticking with Vodafone for now so is an unlock code even needed? could i flash a stock rom other the vodafone software ?
Many thanks in advance
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the solution Rebrand.
Please search xda unlock/rebrand thread.
glehel said:
the solution Rebrand.
Please search xda unlock/rebrand thread.
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You can find it in the Mate 9 forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108/page90
M1chiel said:
You can find it in the Mate 9 forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108/page90
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Ok thanks all will take a look

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