Hi, I haven't found a definitive answer to this so wondering if someone can help me?
Looking to buy this wonderful phone unbranded out of the box if possible, so I get the official updates when they are released rather than waiting for UK carriers...is the only way to get this to buy from Sony direct, or do shops like the Carphone Warehouse give unbranded ones out with contracts (like they did with my HTC One-X?)
Any advice welcome. Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
Thanks for reading.
rowlarry said:
Hi, I haven't found a definitive answer to this so wondering if someone can help me?
Looking to buy this wonderful phone unbranded out of the box if possible, so I get the official updates when they are released rather than waiting for UK carriers...is the only way to get this to buy from Sony direct, or do shops like the Carphone Warehouse give unbranded ones out with contracts (like they did with my HTC One-X?)
Any advice welcome. Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
Thanks for reading.
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All phones from Carphone Warehouse are Unbranded out the box, although buying from Sony directly will get you an Unbranded handset, they're typically only ever branded if you buy direct from a Carrier E.G o2, Vodafone, 3 e.ct.
Hope this helps!
Read some of the threads on here and you will soon see that those of us going unbranded UK (I got mine from Amazon) have actually received the opposite treatment.
UK generic is now two updates behind and seemingly one of the last to receive updates, I can only assume Sony is bending over to the carriers and screwing over those who have actually paid the full amount up front
And to others reading no I don't want to flash a different regions Rom and don't see why we should.
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rowlarry said:
Also, if I unbrand a phone, is that a one-shot process and it will appear as an unbranded phone for future updates etc?
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Yes, you can just flash whatever firmware customization you like and it will stay like that. For example, if you flash 'Generic DE' firmware, you will get all future updates together with Germany.
You can change your customization at any time or return to your original customization by just flashing the appropriate FTF file, or by following this guide if you are rooted:
[GUIDE] Download ANY firmware customization with SUS and create an FTF with Flashtool
So in fact it doesn't matter where you buy your phone. Just buy it where it's the cheapest and then change your firmware customization to whatever you want
alexp999 said:
And to others reading no I don't want to flash a different regions Rom and don't see why we should.
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Why? To get faster updates. It's a world phone, so you can use it in all regions, no matter the firmware customization.
You could also flash the 'Vodafone UK' firmware, they already have 10.1.1.A.1.307.
If you don't mind waiting a long time to get new software, then you can keep your 'Generic UK' version
Apollo89 said:
Yes, you can just flash whatever firmware customization you like and it will stay like that. For example, if you flash 'Generic DE' firmware, you will get all future updates together with Germany.
You can change your customization at any time or return to your original customization by just flashing the appropriate FTF file, or by following this guide if you are rooted:
[GUIDE] Download ANY firmware customization with SUS and create an FTF with Flashtool
So in fact it doesn't matter where you buy your phone. Just buy it where it's the cheapest and then change your firmware customization to whatever you want
Why? To get faster updates. It's a world phone, so you can use it in all regions, no matter the firmware customization.
You could also flash the 'Vodafone UK' firmware, they already have 10.1.1.A.1.307.
If you don't mind waiting a long time to get new software, then you can keep your 'Generic UK' version
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Has anyone uploaded the voda .307 fw?
scorpi786 said:
Has anyone uploaded the voda .307 fw?
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I don't think so, but you can just root your phone temporary (which is very fast and easy) and then follow the guide to change your customization number. After flashing with Sony Update Service or Flashtool, the root will be gone. If you would do so, then please be so kind to create an FTF and share it on xda
Wow, many thanks for your helpful replies. Coming from the world of HTC where we were supplied with prompt updates to unbranded handsets first with the carriers having to wait, this is a surprise that the opposite seems to happen here.
Good to hear that you can seemingly unbrand and then forget about it- and it looks easy to flash firmware etc, seems a lot less restrictive then I am used to, have people found this?
I will find a phone at the right price and just buy then. As an aside, what kind of branding/bloatware is seen on the carrier versions of the software? Is it heavy or quite light?
Thanks again.
The Xperia SP my mum recently got from T-Mobile was pretty minimal in terms of branding/bloatware.
In fact I could not see any branding, just a couple of pre-loaded apps. I think because they use the same customisation for EE, Orange and T-Mobile now, so they can't actually brand it.
Might be different for other handsets, but it is running basically the same software as the Z.
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I want to order a SGS and I have two choices:
1. Buy a unlocked, unbranded one for 469 EUR or,
2. Buy one without subscription but blocked for 6 or 12 months to the actual operator for 429 EUR. The telecom is Bouygues Telecom from France.
If i choose to get the second one i will have to unlock it, since im not going to use it in France, can it be done (easily)?
Also if i choose to get the second offer would i be able to install official I9000 firmwares released from Samsung, XEU version (like JP6 Froyo released lately), or do i have to wait for the telecom to release their own?
Thanks.
Anyone? I really need some advice fast cause I need to order it soon.
Thanks.
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I don't really like to do this, but 3 days 0 answers :O.
It's not difficult to unlock. If you read a bit through the forum you can do it very easy . And about the update, u can do any update you want through kies simply by changing the registry and fooling it that you have a phone from england or US or whatever . Hope this helps. Good luck
ntomi said:
I want to order a SGS and I have two choices:
1. Buy a unlocked, unbranded one for 469 EUR or,
2. Buy one without subscription but blocked for 6 or 12 months to the actual operator for 429 EUR. The telecom is Bouygues Telecom from France.
If i choose to get the second one i will have to unlock it, since im not going to use it in France, can it be done (easily)?
Also if i choose to get the second offer would i be able to install official I9000 firmwares released from Samsung, XEU version (like JP6 Froyo released lately), or do i have to wait for the telecom to release their own?
Thanks.
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I would buy it unlocked. When you have already pay 400 EUR a difference in 40 EUR is not a big deal. There is less problems too when you buy it unlocked and you will not have to unlock it yourself, and you might damage it if you don't unlock it right.
almi88 said:
It's not difficult to unlock. If you read a bit through the forum you can do it very easy . And about the update, u can do any update you want through kies simply by changing the registry and fooling it that you have a phone from england or US or whatever . Hope this helps. Good luck
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People only read through when they do something wrong.
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People only read through when they do something wrong.
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I read the important threads even though I didn't do anything wrong to my device
Thanks for your replies.
Surely i read threads regarding unlocking, just wanted to be sure. I'm more worried about the branding and updates though.
I just ordered my unbranded/unlocked Galaxy S , a bit pricier around 500 EUR but that's the medium price for the device in market right now .
What's the current latest official firmware for UK unbranded z?
There doesn't seem to be any threads active on it anymore.
Is the UK still officially on. 434?
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We've been forgotten. Who knows when O2 will let us update.
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Ussy said:
We've been forgotten. Who knows when O2 will let us update.
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It is odd, isn't it? I know people like to moan about late updates and whatever, but unlocked owners are now two iterations behind everyone else and I do wonder whether 02 have just forgotten to press the switch? I've had a look at the 02 support pages and there's quite a few people not tied to a network asking them to push the update because they won't get theirs until after that point - trouble is, there's a lot of confusion because everyone assumes that unlocked phones get their update first, and I'm still not sure I quite understand why that isn't the case here? Can anyone illuminate me?
My hope is that we skip 434 and go straight to 307?
if anything it will go straight to .407 which is 4.2.2
Richy99 said:
if anything it will go straight to .407 which is 4.2.2
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I hope you're right, but I'm preparing myself to get .434 when everyone else gets the big update. Any idea, incidentally, why unbranded are last to get updates, which seems counter-intuitive?
mine came with .434
its more a case the uk is last as Belgium unbranded devices have .307, it probably gets rolled out region by region unless bugs/issues are found, same with Samsung, it was nearly always a case of new roms were rolled out in germany first then it got rolled out elsewhere in the world
Richy99 said:
mine came with .434
its more a case the uk is last as Belgium unbranded devices have .307, it probably gets rolled out region by region unless bugs/issues are found, same with Samsung, it was nearly always a case of new roms were rolled out in germany first then it got rolled out elsewhere in the world
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But UK networks (other than 02) are already on .307 and they've had to do testing, so surely unbranded should be released earlier, not later (as testing for bloatware compliance isn't required?)
Really don't get the UK update policy makes no sense really just annoying now
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Sniper Spr3e said:
Really don't get the UK update policy makes no sense really just annoying now
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Well, your original point may be valid. Could we have been forgotten?
Sniper Spr3e said:
Really don't get the UK update policy makes no sense really just annoying now
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I'm on UK Vodafone and have .307
plonkersaurus said:
I'm on UK Vodafone and have .307
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Yes, it's just 02 who haven't released it over here and apparently that is somehow delaying the release to unbranded phones, although I'm not entirely sure why...
bigbamboo5 said:
Yes, it's just 02 who haven't released it over here and apparently that is somehow delaying the release to unbranded phones, although I'm not entirely sure why...
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Other countries have released unbranded before some of the carriers
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Sniper Spr3e said:
Other countries have released unbranded before some of the carriers
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Yes, I know. I guess I'm wondering whether this is accident (they've forgotten, somehow) or design (there's a reason for it?)
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Yes, I know. I guess I'm wondering whether this is accident (they've forgotten, somehow) or design (there's a reason for it?)
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Well I've checked with there online support twice both times with the standard rollout reply but surely someone would have raised the issue with uk updates being behind with a higher management. So more likely design.
It's not the lack of updates that bothers me but the lack of an explanation or reason why the uk unbranded are left out
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Well I've checked with there online support twice both times with the standard rollout reply but surely someone would have raised the issue with uk updates being behind with a higher management. So more likely design.
It's not the lack of updates that bothers me but the lack of an explanation or reason why the uk unbranded are left out
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If I'm honest, I don't even know what we're missing out on. Better battery and wifi connectivity, I think - any idea what else?
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If I'm honest, I don't even know what we're missing out on. Better battery and wifi connectivity, I think - any idea what else?
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Better camera, Wi-Fi, battery ( varies though), black on screen buttons
Faster and smoother animations apparently as well
Must importantly a better screen calibration, I've played with a z on .253 and the screen is so much better
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I have a SIM free unlocked Z from Sony, using it on three UK. I'm also still on . 434 with no updates showing. Oh well.
Bought a EK-GC110 off Amazon. Stated as "New, not refurbished" but price was more along the lines of a used / refurbished, so I was OK if it arrived refurbished (it did). However, it's a UAE "model".
Any caveats before I get too attached to it? Obviously there's no warranty regardless, but I don't want a month later to find out some feature won't work because it's a UAE model and I'm in the USA (not even sure what would be a problem, but...)
Thanks
wifi version has identical hardware worldwide.
even if someday you find a feature that doesn't work you could just flash the official rom for the US version, but I think the software is the same everywhere too.
thedicemaster said:
wifi version has identical hardware worldwide.
even if someday you find a feature that doesn't work you could just flash the official rom for the US version, but I think the software is the same everywhere too.
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Hey thanks for the reply. So nothing you can think of that may be 'different' - If I recall there's a few extra wifi channels that the rest of the world has that the USA doesn't - that's fine obviously, I just want to make sure there's not say frequencies this UAE version wouldn't have that the US would. Or some encryption or - I don't even know what else but if it's the same, no problem.
Thanks
I have the same camera.
Im looking to restore it back to factory after root but am not sure what firmware to use. Also, it seems i would benefit from using another regions firmware based on what you said. Is that correct?
Hi All
Apologies as this have probably come up loads but i can't get the "reassurance" i need to do it.
Basically i am the proud owner of the p10 via vodfone uk ... i am looking at maybe unlocking the phone (I know this can be done) but the outcome i want is for it to essentially be stock or in other words as if i purchased an unlocked P10 on amazon for example.
The reason for this is i would like quicker access to updates in Europe rather than wait for the carrier to arrange them. The software from vodafone UK doesn't seem to be as smooth as when i see reviews based on unlocked phones ? some micro stuttering in the app draw and chrome seems to run badly. I know some phones shipped with slower onboard storage but mine was a shade under 800 mbs when i checked so all OK on that front.
So once i have unlocked the phone how do i then make the phone as if its a standard unlocked model ... suspect it would involve flashing a new ROM ? I am sticking with Vodafone for now so is an unlock code even needed? could i flash a stock rom other the vodafone software ?
Many thanks in advance
jimmipp said:
Hi All
Apologies as this have probably come up loads but i can't get the "reassurance" i need to do it.
Basically i am the proud owner of the p10 via vodfone uk ... i am looking at maybe unlocking the phone (I know this can be done) but the outcome i want is for it to essentially be stock or in other words as if i purchased an unlocked P10 on amazon for example.
The reason for this is i would like quicker access to updates in Europe rather than wait for the carrier to arrange them. The software from vodafone UK doesn't seem to be as smooth as when i see reviews based on unlocked phones ? some micro stuttering in the app draw and chrome seems to run badly. I know some phones shipped with slower onboard storage but mine was a shade under 800 mbs when i checked so all OK on that front.
So once i have unlocked the phone how do i then make the phone as if its a standard unlocked model ... suspect it would involve flashing a new ROM ? I am sticking with Vodafone for now so is an unlock code even needed? could i flash a stock rom other the vodafone software ?
Many thanks in advance
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the solution Rebrand.
Please search xda unlock/rebrand thread.
glehel said:
the solution Rebrand.
Please search xda unlock/rebrand thread.
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You can find it in the Mate 9 forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108/page90
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You can find it in the Mate 9 forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108/page90
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Ok thanks all will take a look
Hello everyone ?
Does anyone know of a way to get Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE loaded onto an unlocked, stock, non-rooted, H9436 ?.
PS: I know as a fact that my carrier supports both of them ?
Thank You
Only way is to use Xperifirm to download your regions firmware and flash it.
I know on my previous XZP I had a G8142 dual sim (Hong Kong) and flashed it a G8141 Single Sim (Australia) Firmware without any issues.
Unfortunately Sony Mobile has pulled out of Australia and there no Australian firmware for the XZ3. So I'll never get VoLTE on this phone now.
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Only way is to use Xperifirm to download your regions firmware and flash it.
I know on my previous XZP I had a G8142 dual sim (Hong Kong) and flashed it a G8141 Single Sim (Australia) Firmware without any issues.
Unfortunately Sony Mobile has pulled out of Australia and there no Australian firmware for the XZ3. So I'll never get VoLTE on this phone now.
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Did you see any battery life improvement since the second modem is not being used? ?
Is there no risk of bricking it?
It's gonna be horrible having all of my carriers crap on my phone
Maybe you could try using the firmware of another region that has it
ramy_nassif said:
Did you see any battery life improvement since the second modem is not being used? ?
Is there no risk of bricking it?
It's gonna be horrible having all of my carriers crap on my phone
Maybe you could try using the firmware of another region that has it
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XZP battery life became one of the best phones I've had after the last Oreo update. Since Pie it hasn't improved much. I would have the phone synced to my android watch all day. By the time i hit bed, i'd have 35% battery life left.
My current XZ3, would be dead by the time i get home from work, yet its supposed to have a bigger batter 3330mah vs 3230mah.
You dont have to use your specific carriers, just your country. Using the Generic Australian ROM I got VoLTE and VoWiFi working on Vodafone AU network.
At this current time no firmware is able to make VoLTE work on XZ3. Simply cause Sony Sucks now.
Might even sell this phone off or return it, as I've only had it a week.
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XZP battery life became one of the best phones I've had after the last Oreo update. Since Pie it hasn't improved much. I would have the phone synced to my android watch all day. By the time i hit bed, i'd have 35% battery life left.
My current XZ3, would be dead by the time i get home from work, yet its supposed to have a bigger batter 3330mah vs 3230mah.
You dont have to use your specific carriers, just your country. Using the Generic Australian ROM I got VoLTE and VoWiFi working on Vodafone AU network.
At this current time no firmware is able to make VoLTE work on XZ3. Simply cause Sony Sucks now.
Might even sell this phone off or return it, as I've only had it a week.
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Yeah battery life on this phone is just horrible
My mom has the XZP but she's stuck on Oreo cause Sony mobile abandoned the region, I'm planning on flashing a different region's firmware on my next trip home.
I thought of my carrier's firmware cause in France (my profile still says Lebanon cause I didn't bother changing, I moved to France a couple of months ago) the only unlocked version they sell is the dual sim one, the one sold by operators is the single sim one but they install their own firmware, and also because on their support website that mentioned that the xz3 that they sell is compatible with VoWiFi and VoLTE.
If you return it what would you get?
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Yeah battery life on this phone is just horrible
My mom has the XZP but she's stuck on Oreo cause Sony mobile abandoned the region, I'm planning on flashing a different region's firmware on my next trip home.
I thought of my carrier's firmware cause in France (my profile still says Lebanon cause I didn't bother changing, I moved to France a couple of months ago) the only unlocked version they sell is the dual sim one, the one sold by operators is the single sim one but they install their own firmware, and also because on their support website that mentioned that the xz3 that they sell is compatible with VoWiFi and VoLTE.
If you return it what would you get?
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Well I haven't returned it, cause I still don't have my XZP back from warranty repairs. Appears Sony is abandoning alot of regions. Though they are still releasing updates for those phones which is a good thing.
I love Sony Xperia phones, by far the best quality handsets in terms of workmanship, etc. But how they go about their software implementations has a lot to desire.
Hoping one day Sony deploys Carrier integrations like alot of the smaller manufacturers i.e Asus, Huawei, Oppo and Nokia, who are able to enable VoLTE without any specific region firmware.
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Well I haven't returned it, cause I still don't have my XZP back from warranty repairs. Appears Sony is abandoning alot of regions. Though they are still releasing updates for those phones which is a good thing.
I love Sony Xperia phones, by far the best quality handsets in terms of workmanship, etc. But how they go about their software implementations has a lot to desire.
Hoping one day Sony deploys Carrier integrations like alot of the smaller manufacturers i.e Asus, Huawei, Oppo and Nokia, who are able to enable VoLTE without any specific region firmware.
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Yeah Xperia phone are really great, they have a mix of build quality and balance between software features and performance that just isn't available with other phones in the Android world (not talking about iPhones cause iOS is just BAD). I remember when I switched from my Z1 to a note 5, I was so disappointed. Wasn't sure if I wanted to get the Z5 or the note 5, so I decided to see why people praise Sammy, what a mistake ??*.
Going back to the main subject of this thread ?
I hadn't flashed my phone yet cause I had been pretty busy with school and wasn't sure if I should flash my carrier's firmware or not. So last week I got an update. A couple of hours later I went into the settings to tinker with stamina mode. And there I see it. A big banner on the top telling me to activate Wi-Fi Calling. So of course I did but couldn't test it directly cause I was out and about. When I got home (I have really bad reception in my dorm room, when people call me they go directly to voicemail cause I don't have any reception), I tried to see figure it out, but apparently it's just a placebo, it doesn't actually do anything ?