LTE Faster Than WiFi - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

In my somewhat limited testing of suburban Atlanta LTE with 2 bars of signal strength vs my 802.11n Mode Wireless Router (the Vivid is about 6 ft away from the router), it sure looks like LTE beats WiFi hands down for both down and upload speeds.

What's your internet provider? Just curious
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nielp96 said:
What's your internet provider? Just curious
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Comcast. The WiFi numbers for the Vivid are about the same as the hard wire numbers on my desktop PC.

some of the numbers i've seen for LTE posted here beat my FiOS internet 3:1... which 6 months ago I would have said is not possible.

I've observed the same results. WiFi was 10 down and 1.5 up, LTE was 21 down and 8.5 up with only 1 bar of service with the phone sitting in the same spot in the house, and I live out in the sticks. We just got ATT Uverse this summer, it just became available.... Before that all we could get was a wireless broadband that was only slightly better than dialup. Can't seem to post a pic from the phone....

Yup! This is no secret

Truth is I'm getting more enjoyment out of pointing out to the Sys Admin at work that my phone on HSPA+ is pulling speeds far and away faster than the DS3 we have LOL

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LTE RSRP (dBm) signal comparison

I think a lot of us would like to see is the RSRP (dBm) values of the HTC One sitting next to the EVO and possibly another device like the GS3 or Note 2.
Can someone who has the HTC One in a 4G LTE market find another LTE phone and compare them side by side?
Pretty Please!
Thanks in advance!
Tell me where to get the dBm values and I can do it for you.
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Felnarion said:
Tell me where to get the dBm values and I can do it for you.
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On HTC phones you can go to "About Phone" and then "Network" or the "Sensorly" app will show you under "Details" if you have that app downloaded
Do you have an EVO or other phone activated that you can show the screens side by side?
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Syph3r said:
On HTC phones you can go to "About Phone" and then "Network" or the "Sensorly" app will show you under "Details" if you have that app downloaded
Do you have an EVO or other phone activated that you can show the screens side by side?
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Here are some screenshots of where to find it.
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i use signalcheck found in the play store.
I use an app called Open Signal for testing signal strength, it's free and I think ad-free... as well as useful.
I would test the LTE, but there is no LTE where I live.
Somewhat related, I started a thread moments ago about signal issue I am having on my ONE unfortunately...
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I use an app called Open Signal for testing signal strength, it's free and I think ad-free... as well as useful.
I would test the LTE, but there is no LTE where I live.
Somewhat related, I started a thread moments ago about signal issue I am having on my ONE unfortunately...
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Issues with 3G or voice calls?
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Here are my stats, though I don't know how relevant they are. No matter what, I cannot get them to connect to the same tower. The comparison is between the One and an S3, The S3 runs CM 10.1. The screenshots were taken in the same place, not side by side, but in the exact same location one after the other.
Check the filenames to compare.
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Issues with 3G or voice calls?
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Voice for sure, haven't tested any 3G yet.... on WIFi at the house.
heres in my house where its spotty, my daughters ip5 is anywhere between -112-117 in the house and stays on lte. neither the one, lte or my wifes gs3 can hold the lte connection like the ip5 can in this house.
LTE no connection and this was after a airplane mode shuffle
and the One
Just went into a sprint store yesterday and compared the One with my EVO ....I am VERY VERY Disappointed!
The sprint store is right on the edge of a 4G tower...perfect for testing the RF signal. When I walked in the One was connected to 4G without issue, EVO as well. Tried going to the network screen on the one but for some reason it was greyed out and could not access. So I downloaded sensorly so I could see the RSRP values.
Just holding the 2 phones together for a picture and the HTC one drops LTE.
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Is this something that can be fixed or do we have to rely on Sprint and HTC to adjust something?.. I'm dropping from 4G to 3G all the time in places my other LTE phones hold.
Is this a software issue or Hardware?
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I just drove one way down a road(4 miles) that has 4G with my phone in the dock and sensory and Google music running. Held 4G the whole way..
Just had to drive down the same road back to the house with the phone on my center console and it was holding 4G again until I touched the phone. When I let it go it connects to 4G again after a minute or so.. Then when I touch it it loses 4G again.. WTF is going on here?
When I say "touch" it, I mean just picking it up in hand. Did this 4 times... This does not happen in areas where it's a strong LTE signal. Only in the outer areas of the LTE signal. But like mentioned before, my other devices hold it fine.
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I work in a basement office (IT), and i'm close enough to a tower that my GS3 would still be able to hold on to a weak LTE signal at times (mostly 3G, but sitting on my desk, I could usually cycle airplane mode and get it to hold LTE). It pulled about 2 meg down on LTE the couple times I tested it. I've seen my One grab LTE a couple times, but as soon as it tried to move any data, it would drop back to 3G.
Other than that, both seem to perform pretty much the same to me, but haven't had enough time to test them side by side. I always had to cycle airplane mode to get the GS3 to look for LTE again after dropping to 3G (without having to wait 10 minutes), but with the One, it seems like all you have to do is toggle Mobile Data off and back on and it'll grab LTE. Definite plus there.
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I just drove one way down a road(4 miles) that has 4G with my phone in the dock and sensory and Google music running. Held 4G the whole way..
Just had to drive down the same road back to the house with the phone on my center console and it was holding 4G again until I touched the phone. When I let it go it connects to 4G again after a minute or so.. Then when I touch it it loses 4G again.. WTF is going on here?
When I say "touch" it, I mean just picking it up in hand. Did this 4 times... This does not happen in areas where it's a strong LTE signal. Only in the outer areas of the LTE signal. But like mentioned before, my other devices hold it fine.
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Yep, same thing here...I pick up the phone, press the power button to wake, and within seconds data either switches to 3G and/or drops altogether, only to come back after short period. When it comes back it sometimes stays good and sometimes continues to give me issues. I'm thinking software too...but I'm definitely not in a fringe area, at least according to Sprint's coverage map. I'm not going to wait this out and be frustrated...tomorrow morning I'm going to an AT&T store and check out their demo. If it holds a data connection I'm returning the Sprint phone and switching to AT&T. Thankfully, I was at the end of my Verizon contract and within the 14 day remorse period with Sprint.
Oh, and I might add, it did this while I was in the Sprint store and I dismissed it as being indoors or something that would settle. I guess I was so smitten with this sexy ass phone that I too quickly dismissed the issue.

Delay in connecting to data

Is it normal to take a while to connect to data? How does I compare to other sprint LTE phones?
I've noticed that if I disconnect from wifi, it may take a while before I get any data at all. I drove nearly 5 blocks yesterday before it connected to anything at all, searching for signal since walking out the door and turning wifi off completely.
I'm guessing I'm just in spotty area for 4G and it doesn't know whether to connect to 3g or 4G.
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I live in Orlando Fl. and it doesn't usually take long to connect to data for me. But we only have 3G here for now. I don't think 4G is releasing until later this year. I do know that Sprints 3G speeds suck big time here. I'm lucky if I can get the Google page to load up in less than 3 minutes. It's pretty pathetic sometimes.
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I live in Orlando Fl. and it doesn't usually take long to connect to data for me. But we only have 3G here for now. I don't think 4G is releasing until later this year. I do know that Sprints 3G speeds suck big time here. I'm lucky if I can get the Google page to load up in less than 3 minutes. It's pretty pathetic sometimes.
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Have not really notice it but on vipers rom I can see it cycling between 1x and 3g in my house. Btw I es in a spot that has LTE yesterday and my wife's GSIII had 4g on but my ONE was not picking it up.
sonofshade: I was un Avalon park on Saturday and there is 4g there also parts of Altamonte mainly heading W from I4 and also when I was art Disney last week. It's spotty but they seem to be testing.
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All DC-HSDPA DiscussionĀ«

In an attempt to help tidy up this forum a bit, this thread has been created to centralize all discussion related to DC-HSDPA on the Nexus 4.
*NOTE* DON'T CREATE ANY OTHER THREADS REGARDING LTE. USE THIS THREAD TO ANNOUNCE OR DISCUSS ANYTHING INSTEAD!
Hi guys do we really need 4G or Lte these days ?
Those mobiles supports JUST one Radio frequency .. which is NOT good ..
So you will travel somewhere else 4g /lte will stop working cos of diff. frequency ..
It is about of time when mobiles will support all 4g /lte frequencies same as 3G network ..
I think DC-HSDPA is LEADER now days with brilliant speed ..
4G in UK has EE company which is completely UNACCEPTABLE ! Ridiculous prices overcharging .. NO not ready yet ..
Please leave comments below
Thnx
My phone is about 4-6 times faster than my home internet connection.
4/0.35 Mbit at home, ~20/3 on my phone.
Nuu~ said:
My phone is about 4-6 times faster than my home internet connection.
4/0.35 Mbit at home, ~20/3 on my phone.
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Exactly
And what I do is I connect phone to laptop and have internet at home with great speed
Still better than my home WiFi.
-Sent from Marino's Maxx-
I feel like I'm not getting DC-HSDPA speeds with t-mobile in NYC. No LTE yet either
Still love this phone though!
3UK, DC-HSDPA speeds are fluctuating badly, in the same spot, speeds range from 0.5/0.3 to 14/4, throughout the day, it's terrible! Pings always seem to be around 60-90 though so that's alright.
How do to check the connection status of the N4? All I see is an H in the signal bar...
Anyone found any coverage on o2
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The N4 radio is not capable of showing when it is using DC-HSDPA, if you go into about phone > status, it'll tell you when using HSPA+ (HSPA+:15) but that's as high as it goes.
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The N4 radio is not capable of showing when it is using DC-HSDPA, if you go into about phone > status, it'll tell you when using HSPA+ (HSPA+:15) but that's as high as it goes.
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The radio knows perfectly well what network type it is on/band/frequency. The problem is that Android has no standard way of displaying anything other than network type. Manufacturers implement their own field test apps, which can communicate directly to the radio and get this information.
Back to the point, no phone with proper Android does. Android does not have a definition for DC-HSPA+ as a network type. This was hacked into CM, which will bite them later on like it did Samsung for LTE (certain phones will say eHRPD instead of LTE since they have conflicting constant 14 in TelephonyManager). It's fragmentation at it's finest.
That's not the point, it can utilise DC-HSDPA, but it doesn't show it in TelephonyManager, even with CM's commit, they said it only works on certain phones because the radio would not show it to the software on most phones.
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The N4 radio is not capable of showing when it is using DC-HSDPA, if you go into about phone > status, it'll tell you when using HSPA+ (HSPA+:15) but that's as high as it goes.
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high as i got is HSPA:8 in canada on wind mobile
Mine shows HSPA:10
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If you run speedtest or another app that uses data for a few seconds, after starting a test, quickly switch to the phone status (multitasking window) and it should show HSPA+:15 whilst data is flowing.
Yes! I can confirm... I see 15.
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If you run speedtest or another app that uses data for a few seconds, after starting a test, quickly switch to the phone status (multitasking window) and it should show HSPA+:15 whilst data is flowing.
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tried it but only HSPA:8 still. probably my carrier sucks 2mb up on full bars
How strange, not exactly sure how things work in America but I think you have to sign up to a high speed, or 4G plan for HSPA+, but like I said, I'm not entirely sure. There could also be an alternate APN for high speed.
i dont see the point of having lte when you can have hspa+. i get 25/3 speeds in hungary, which is more than enough.
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How do to check the connection status of the N4? All I see is an H in the signal bar...
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It is all in your settings about phone .. there is network which say HSPA 10 .. that means it is enhanced HSDPA
and in older mobiles shows HSPA 8 which is lower ..
note : u can see this only in nexus 4 ROM or this style of android..
on mine lg it doesnt say number just HSPA ..
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3UK, DC-HSDPA speeds are fluctuating badly, in the same spot, speeds range from 0.5/0.3 to 14/4, throughout the day, it's terrible! Pings always seem to be around 60-90 though so that's alright.
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mine speeds vary .. sometimes 12mbps sometimes 8,9 but defo faster than lg optimus..

Sprint network is horrendous.

Been waiting for the 4g since 2010 and I've had enough. Time to go to T-Mobile.
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thinking about doing the same thing, I'm in Queens and it sucks haha
just worried about building penetration with them, especially in NYC
Yeah I hear you. I got sold on it today at work. One of my guys has been with T-Mobile for years I did a speed test and you see the results. He did it with his Samsung note 3 and got 29 mbps download and close to the same on upload. Frigging amazing. It's faster then my Wi-Fi on comcast at home. Time to make a move. Sad thing is I've been with sprint since 2000. Gonna be weird.
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I have been with Sprint over 10 years now. I don't know how much more I can take either. The network is so unstable in my area. Constant dropped calls, 3G is to the point where even at full signal I have to do toggle airplane mode for it to kinda work sometimes. 4G signal strength is a joke. Tri band is coming very soon but I'm just so so so tired of waiting.
You think your speeds are bad?
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Here are results from my newly upgraded Network Vision Tower not even a mile away from me just down the road.
Sprint 3G with "great signal".
Verizon 3G will usually run faster than 4G Sprint LTE. Even though I'm very close to the tower, it constantly cuts in and out. The speed sucks.
Thank god for Comcast. I know a lot of people hate them but I am very happy with my connection except for netflix congestion which should be fixed soon. I usually am above my rated speed even at peek times.
My tower is absolutely pathetic. They aren't all done but my tower has been borked since July of 2013. Now 3G pretty much doesn't work at all.
The only thing that is nice is I now have an HD Voice tower which does sound awesome when it works when talking to someone else with Sprint on an upgraded tower. That's if it can actually hold a call.
Dan Hesse is still promising a Super 4G network to rival the competition when he did a recent interview on Mad Money seen here.
The build out is taking way too long. I know a new network is not built overnight but it's absolutely awful. It's so bad my local news did a story on it cause so many viewers were calling in wanting them to do a story.
I'm still holding out for Tri-Band is the only hope left, but I just don't know how much more I can take.
At least your guys 3G "works" if you want to call those speeds "working"
I have the same results in maplewod, voice in my house is terrible always getting dropped. I manage to get pretty good 4g in bloomington, but I am not in bloomington that often. perhaps if sprint actually buys t-mobile that will help things along.
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I have the same results in maplewod, voice in my house is terrible always getting dropped. I manage to get pretty good 4g in bloomington, but I am not in bloomington that often. perhaps if sprint actually buys t-mobile that will help things along.
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A lot of the towers around here are just borked. What I have been reading it's the hand off between new equipment to older legacy equipment. So eventually it should all be replaced but yea pretty much anywhere in the metro it sucks big time. Most of our towers should be getting 800 MHz & 2.5 GHz LTE in the coming months. I will be upgrading to the next HTC in tri-band flavor. We *should* see awesome speeds on the 2.5 GHz band since we were in a wimax market. We will see how the handoffs go between the 3 frequencies. I'm expecting dumped signals & dropped connection but it's suppose to be seamless.
The fastest I got out of Sprint
Here's what I'm looking at
And that's after most of the university students went home for spring break. Usually at 4 AM the speeds skyrocket though I've hit the max that our 3G supports (I probably have insomnia)
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Here's what I'm looking at (IMG quote removed)
And that's after most of the university students went home for spring break. Usually at 4 AM the speeds skyrocket though I've hit the max that our 3G supports (I probably have insomnia)
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I don't have any problems for the most part in the north east. Almost always 4g (LTE) and only occasionally does it drop to 3g while driving on highways.
I can stream netflix while driving and it only occasionally has to buffer.

M8 vs S4 radio

So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
I belive the signal bars when in Cdma/lte mode shows the lte signal instead of the cdma signal which could explain the x on your signal bars. But yes mine sucks on that mode. I don't get any calls or texts coming thru unless I'm on cdma only.
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Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
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My proxies were already set to 0. I have signal check on both phones they are both reporting almost the exact same numbers. But, what I don't get is why the WiFi is significantly worse. All Speed tests on WiFi show at least 50% slower on the M8 and I am manually setting the server to make sure its testing on the same servers. All servers show the same trend with 3G and WiFi.
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It seems if I have both phones right next to my router theywill both pull about the same 45/35. If I am down stairs the M8 significantly drops off while the S4 is still pretty strong although they are within about showing around 4dBm of each other.
Surprisingly I just got 1.65mbps down on the M8 on 3G and .92mbps on the S4. Then they both went below .10 on the next test. I guess it is just to hard to tell right now but it does seem the S4 is doing better 90% of the time. I will have to do some more tests in other locations and on LTE. I can get LTE less than a half mile from my house but not at my house both phones do always show connected to LTE first thing in the morning but it drops immediately as did my S3.
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I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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I don't think what band I'm using on WiFi should really play a factor in this. Either way you look at it the S4 is doing significantly better.
I have also tested it on LTE now, the S4 does 30%-60% better. For example on Speed test app both connected on the same server at the same time S4 will get 12mbps down and M8 only 6mbps and this is in an area with working Spark. According to Signal Check where I did this test the S4 ranges from around 4-10dBm better
I don't know anyone with a M8 so I might just goto a Sprint store and test mine against one on display.
I am almost half tempted to trade it in for a S5 even though I really like this phone.
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Well I was finally able to find a store with an M8 to exchange mine for today (last M8 at a Best Buy within 50 miles). I haven't been able to do too much tests but my WiFi is 100% better so I am happy now. I guess I did have a defective phone.
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mikeregister said:
So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
mikeregister said:
I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
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Oh then nvm. The weather and LTE are not doing well in Riverside I guess.

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