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Hi there,
as my iPhone 3G is getting old and the WLAN seems to be broken now, I was looking for a replacement. I saw that the price for the Galaxy S I9000 dropped massively here in Germany and therefore started to read through the posts here in the forum for the last 2 days. There is just too much information out there to get things sorted out in my mind that fast...
I really loved the iPhone for all those nice apps because I don't really like to use the browser on a small screen that often. There were 3 major things that I didn't like and hope my new phone can do better:
- Performance: It sometimes took quite long to start apps and also some of them were performing poorely.
- Multitasking: I like to have the 3-4 apps that I use most running simultaneously. That is Phone D), Mail (GMail), Skype and Facebook.
- Battery life: My iPhone had problem to make it through the day if I used it too much.
Is there somebody out there who can tell me if the Samsung can handle those things better? Performance-wise I guess there should be no problem, but I don't know about multitasking and battery life.
One more question: I am really interested in learning more about flashing custom ROM's and doing that with the new device, but there is one thing I don't want to do: I don't want to be forced to look for bugfixes all the time. The phone needs to run STABLE. Is that the case? Are there good ROM's out there that really improve the native firmware from point of view of performance AND stability?
I hope this is the right forum to ask those things. If not I apologize and ask the admin to move it to a better suited forum.
The Galaxy I9000 really looks very promising to me, so please don't be to harsh with your criticism, OK?
Mike
Comparing the SGS to the iphone 3, i would say, that the screen is much better, and if your primary apps, are Gmail, Facebook and skype, you are set. Multitasking is almost not existent in the iphone, and i belive battery life is better, and if that is not enough, you can get an additional battery, wich you can't with the iphone. for me, it's a much better device.
Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
Very recommended and match with you..believe me
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Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
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I'm running the stock ROM, rooted of course, and is very stable, i never had any problems. I haven't tried custom rooms, but as far as i understand, they are very stable too. I just prefer to keep my phone as stock as possible...
for the beginning i don't think you need any custom roms if you decide on the SGS, the stock ones are a very long way from any iOS you had in the past
just go to any store and play with it for a while, you'll be amazed about the difference from that old i3g, just as i was, the best choice i have ever made, moving on from iphone3 to this amazing Android device, can't wait to get the money for an sgs2
Seems like I will have to give it a shot.
I was just a bit confused, as one of my friends told me about problems with apps an their stablilty compared to the iPhone. He mentioned e.g. Mobile Navigator.
Well, I will try by myself.
Thanks anyway for your comments.
Mike
When I heard the Optimus Black was coming to Sprint USA in the form of the LG Marquee, I was very excited.
But it appears that the Sprint version was not met with the same positive reception. Users complained about poor battery (one person even said it seems to run out faster than it can charge), dropped signal randomly, and general screen lag during transitions.
I finally got a chance to use one in a store display recently (wrote about the experience here), and I must admit it seemed to have more screen lag than any of the other devices on display, even compared to an Optimus S (Optimus One variant). There are some folks who are tweaking it to work for them and like it well enough, but I recall hearing such great things about the Optimus Black, so I'm wondering where the discrepancy lies between these two devices.
Could it be Gingerbread?
The Marquee ships with Gingerbread, which LG did a horrible job implementing on the Optimus S. In fact, Sprint pulled the Gingerbread update on the Optimus S after numerous complaints about battery life and poor performance. Could it be that LG jumped the gun on this and should have stuck to Froyo?
What do you Optimus Black owners think of all this?
Well if this is true, then it does make sense why LG is still not releasing GB update for OB. Perhaps they may be trying to make it less bug than Marquee.
Can't say more untill GB is released officially for OB.
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Well if this is true, then it does make sense why LG is still not releasing GB update for OB. Perhaps they may be trying to make it less bug than Marquee.
Can't say more untill GB is released officially for OB.
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That is the case i imagine as the android 2.3 Gingerbread on the US Sprint version is not the full Gingerbread as i have read in several sites but its a very close Gingerbread release thats why it is so buggy
So they will be making it more stable and final release for the P970 whenever they decide its finished
Dishe,
When I am interested in a product, I normally do some research on it 1st. I go to forums expecting to read the pros & cons. Obviously, forums are filled with posts & threads (from people like yourself) that express their opinions of a specific product. I have no problem with that at all. I know how to filter through posts that are BS. I don't have any problem with differences of opinions, nor a problem with someone out there doesn't like this phone or has had a negative personal experience with it....but I do have a problem w/ false or incorrect information.
Which is why I have a problem w/ your posts. You have gone on multiple different forums/websites& repeatedly posted negative, some false & unconfirmed information about a phone a) you don't personally own & b) have not really given a fair amount of time with (messing with a store Demo imo doesn't count). Either way, there have been more people (like myself) that have posted numerous POSITIVE reviews/fixes/advice about this phone you seem to ignore. More importantly, even with these suggestions out there, you repeatedly continue to post information that is confusing & contradicting to someone that might be interested in purchasing this specific phone.
BTW, before continuing to post incorrect information about Sprint new return policy. As I have not seen ANYWHERE (except for your posts) that Sprint only will give you 14 days to return from the date the order is placed or when the phone ships. I am actually pretty sure it's from the day the phone is received in hand & gets activated on the account. Anyways, it might be worth it for you to check on that & be sure to 100% confirm your information WITH SPRINT before posting that again.
You have implied LG might have a problem w/ Gingerbread. If your opinion is based on the pulled Gingerbread release for the Optimus S & if so what does it have to do with this phone?? Gingerbread seems to be working just fine on my LG Marquee. In addition, I do not think it was released for this phone pre-maturely.
This phone has never been promoted as a "replacement for the Optimus S" (once again, except with your posts). Although with SOME carriers it shares the Optimus name....but it doesn't with Sprint. In fact, you can still purchase a brand new Optimus S today from Sprint if you wanted to. Which tells me, this is just another phone in the Sprints product line....is it an improvement from the Optimus S?? Yes, absolutely....but not a direct replacement.
As to why Sprint isn't promoting this phone?? Who knows & more importantly who cares. Stop looking for some conspiracy theory or personal vendetta....My conclusion?? I am sure over the last month the iPhone release has squashed most of the promotion for newer phones (the LG Marquee isn't the only phone suffering right now from a lack of promotion).
This phone will not perform at the same levels as 4G phones (iPhone, Evo, Epic, Nexus). If you think it will or are expecting it to, prepare to be disappointed. This phone should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as those phones. Although physically similar to the Optimus Black, this IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONE internally...it shouldn't be compared to the LG Esteem (Metro PCS) either. It's apples & oranges here & once again should not be compared.
This phone was never promised to be anything more than a mid level 3G Android phone. Everything I have read from either LG or Sprint has never implied otherwise. With the exception of the LED notification that is in the manual (most likely a misprint), there has not been any info printed, released or promised about this specific phone (LG MARQUEE) from either manufacturer that hasn't been delivered. If you want gorilla glass, it doesn't have it....it also doesn't have a the same dedicated camera button as the Optimus S but DOES have a dedicated hard button (set as the Camera button by default) although it does not seem to support a half-way press to lock focus. It also does not have a slide out keyboard so if you want one/or must have it, THIS PHONE IS NOT FOR YOU.
LAG/STUTTER
The only negative thing I have found is there is an initial lag, stutter, lack of "smoothness" with the STOCK launcher program of this phone. In addition, I couldn't find a way to customize it to my liking. So I downloaded Launcher Pro which for those who don't know is a different Launcher App found in the Market. There is a free & paid version. I also tried ADW Launcer as well (pretty sure there is only a paid version). I liked them both as they both have alot of customization options, but personally I like Launcher Pro a little better. I can't even tell you why. It's just the one I decided on & it works for me.
SIGNAL ISSUE
There were 1-2 people that initially posted they had a signal issue. it was also made it VERY clear in follow up posts that the signal problem MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE PHONE but most likely because they were in a low signal area. For the record, I have not experienced ANY drop outs, missed calls, or signal problems with the TWO LG Marquee phones that I personally own (since October 13th).
SCREEN RESPONSE
There was 1 person that reported a screen response issue....no one else, that I can find has been able to recreate or had the screen response problem. Again, I have not experienced ANY screen response issues or problems with the TWO LG Marquee phones that I personally own (since October 13th).
BATTERY LIFE
Yes, there are phones out there w/ better Battery life. With that said, there is a very helpful post (the one you hijacked) with really good tips on how to improve the Battery life of this phone. For the record, I applied most (not all) of the tips to my TWO LG Marquee phones that I personally own & am able to get 18-24 hours of pretty steady use without having to recharge. Your comment of "put the phone in airplane mode" doesn't really make sense & no one ever said to that btw (just you). Every tip mentioned still allows you to receive calls & texts. Here's the deal, with any phone shutting off a function that is not being used will increase your Battery life in the long run.
Brightness - If you keep the phone at 100% brightness, your battery will drop quickly. If you can adjust it & keep it lower it may help improve your Battery life.
Keeping the Data Sync, GPS, Bluetooth and Wifi are on (even they aren't being used) will drain the battery. Shutting them off when not in use will help improve Battery life. There is a free power control widget that comes with the phone but for more customization options, the EXTENDED CONTROLS App is recommended.
btw...there are more tips...search & you will find.
ROOT
This phone can be rooted....very easily. Again search & you will find.
ACCESSORIES:
Since the Marquee is a PHYSICAL clone of the Optimus Black accessories are VERY EASY TO FIND. Search Google, Amazon, eBay, etc.
In closing, if you are reading this, my goal wasn't to bash Dishe as much as it was to provide a different perspective & info to help anyone interested or looking at Sprint's LG Marquee. I personally own two of these phones & coming from a Touch Pro 2, I couldn't be happier. I am looking forward to more people getting this phone so together we can make it even better.
Aha...
Only one question for you, how much does Sprint or LG pay for your services?
- If they pay you a lot, congratulations, you are doing a good job.
- If they pay you a little or just nothing... I don't understand your way to appear into a forum and post this great manifest in your very first post... incredible.
To say that I'm in absolute agree with you regarding to the spammer-actitude of some people in this and other forums... I usually try to be a little bit more constructive...
Regards.
Huexxx , perhaps he is one of Sprint/LG employee... LOL
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Aha...
Only one question for you, how much does Sprint or LG pay for your services?
- If they pay you a lot, congratulations, you are doing a good job.
- If they pay you a little or just nothing... I don't understand your way to appear into a forum and post this great manifest in your very first post... incredible.
To say that I'm in absolute agree with you regarding to the spammer-actitude of some people in this and other forums... I usually try to be a little bit more constructive...
Regards.
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I'm not getting paid at all...nor am I an employee. I own the phone & don't want people to steer away from it because of inaccurate posts. I am hoping more & more people embrace the phone, so in turn there can be more support out there in making this phone better.
Although, this is my 1st post hereI am active in other forums under the same username NOSAJSAM
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I'm not getting paid at all...nor am I an employee. I own the phone & don't want people to steer away from it because of inaccurate posts. I am hoping more & more people embrace the phone, so in turn there can be more support out there in making this phone better.
Although, this is my 1st post hereI am active in other forums under the same username NOSAJSAM
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Yeah, it's a point of view... you have convinced me.
Regards.
Nosajsam is very active in the Android Central forum for the Marquee.
What he says in his post is true and is gleaned from the experience of users that have posted in that forum.
The problem that he, I and others at Android Central have with "dishe" is that he has been ripping the Marquee for a couple of weeks in any forum he can post in and he doesn't even have the phone and hasn't even held one until a couple of days ago.
Please refer to http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-lg-marquee/118994-marquee-improvements-over-optimus-s-2.html post #13.
We (from Android Central) don't mind someone pointing out flaws and giving opinions as long as they have at least used the phone for more that a demo in a phone store.
Good job, guys. Go ahead and deny the issues so that no one is interested in fixing them. At least I'm trying to figure out what happened here. For the record, nosa is coming from a windows mobile 6.5 device. As his first Android experience, I'm sure he is plenty impressed. But it would appear that those upgrading from another android device do not have good things to say. And I'd like to find out where lg deviated.
But it doesn't matter. I'm not here to troll or give negative opinions. These guys just get really defensive about this product. I would like to help bring the marquee up to the performance it SHOULD be capable of. All you two seem to do are get defensive and say everything is fine and I don't know what I'm talking about. Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, as far as wanting consumers to get the right idea- I agree, but not sure if the opinion of someone who has been using a touch pro 2 all this time is as helpful as you think. Sprint's policies have changed recently, ask them yourself. Folks have been reported this for a while, my own brother got screwed with a different phone, and at least one person who tried to get the marquee almost did as well. If I were researching a phone, followed your advice and then got stuck with this, I'd likely be pretty angry at you. What you have to remember is that this is your opinion. I am entitled to mine and we are both allowed to share and disagree. You think mine is invalid because it is based on other users posts and a very limited actual time with the device, and I think yours is invalid because you are new to the scene and don't have enough background to compare it to. Both may have merit. But your tone here is uncalled for.
I apologize to xda for bringing their hostility here. Thankfully they do not represent all of this or that other forum.
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Good job, guys. Go ahead and deny the issues so that no one is interested in fixing them. At least I'm trying to figure out what happened here. For the record, nosa is coming from a windows mobile 6.5 device. As his first Android experience, I'm sure he is plenty impressed. But it would appear that those upgrading from another android device do not have good things to say. And I'd like to find out where lg deviated.
But it doesn't matter. I'm not here to troll or give negative opinions. These guys just get really defensive about this product. I would like to help bring the marquee up to the performance it SHOULD be capable of. All you two seem to do are get defensive and say everything is fine and I don't know what I'm talking about. Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, as far as wanting consumers to get the right idea- I agree, but not sure if the opinion of someone who has been using a touch pro 2 all this time is as helpful as you think. Sprint's policies have changed recently, ask them yourself. Folks have been reported this for a while, my own brother got screwed with a different phone, and at least one person who tried to get the marquee almost did as well. If I were researching a phone, followed your advice and then got stuck with this, I'd likely be pretty angry at you. What you have to remember is that this is your opinion. I am entitled to mine and we are both allowed to share and disagree. You think mine is invalid because it is based on other users posts and a very limited actual time with the device, and I think yours is invalid because you are new to the scene and don't have enough background to compare it to. Both may have merit. But your tone here is uncalled for.
I apologize to xda for bringing their hostility here. Thankfully they do not represent all of this or that other forum.
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Again, there are more & more people posting positive reviews & experiences EVERYDAY (that you ignore) & in the meantime you still seem to think this phone has a problem. Its not a matter of denial here...there have not been any consistent reported issues yet with the Sprint LG MARQUEE that need to be fixed. (by consistent I mean acknowledged with ALL owners of) Please don't misunderstand, the Marquee isn't perfect but with very simple tweaks (apps &/or settings) it can perform better....btw isn't this the case w/ EVERY phone??
Your Optimus S which I am VERY familiar with (my Brother, Mom, Dad & Sister in Law own them) was not initially without its share of problems. I can almost guarantee you were not 1st in line when the Optimus S came out because if you were, you would know exactly what I am talking about. We are also discussing a phone (Optimus S) that has been out for over a year with tons of support from people & developers continuously coming up with ways to make that phone better. The tweaks & improvements that can be applied to that Optimus S as of today, are not at all close to what it was upon it's initial release. The Marquee has been out less than 1 month & as you even mention, has not been widely available in Sprint stores (although, my local Radio Shack & Best Buy has had it in stock from Day 1). My point is the Marquee is still a baby. I am sure in time the more people mess with it, more & more improvements will be found...
Listen, I may not be thrilled w/ Sprints new 14 day return window either, but complaining about it has nothing to do w/ this phone or its performance. So mentioning it in each of your posts seems irrelevant to me.
Although its true, I have not posted here frequently but as it was mentioned, I am very active in other forums. Regardless of my post count, I would hope my opinion has WAY more merit to someone considering buying this phone, since I actually OWN THE DEVICE (2 of them).
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hey look, an ice cream truck !!!
I'm not going to bother replying to everything in each forum you have followed me to, but I will at least respond to some of your concerns here.
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Again, there are more & more people posting positive reviews & experiences EVERYDAY (that you ignore) & in the meantime you still seem to think this phone has a problem.
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Ok, wanna shut me up on this issue? Post links to some of them, and I'll post links to the complaints. We'll see who has more. But it shouldn't matter, because the very fact that there ARE some to link to means that at least some folks have returned the phone due to legitimate problems. I'm not here to play "he said/she said".
Its not a matter of denial here...there have not been any consistent reported issues yet with the Sprint LG MARQUEE that need to be fixed. (by consistent I mean acknowledged with ALL owners of)
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Dear l-rd, is that your criteria? If Bob's mom likes the phone despite everyone else having severe problems it is, it must not be a real problem?
I really think you might be alone in this definition.
Please don't misunderstand, the Marquee isn't perfect but with very simple tweaks (apps &/or settings) it can perform better....btw isn't this the case w/ EVERY phone??
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Yes, but some devices more than others. Some devices, like the Sanyo Zio, were doomed from the start because of an underpowered GPU. And others, like the original Samsung Transform (not the new Ultra, which admittedly seems kind of nice), had performance problems that may have been driver related, however were never properly fixed. I followed that one for a while too.
While I can't vouch for the battery and other issues since I'm only basing that on complaints heard from people who returned (or tried to return) the device, I can tell you first hand that the Marquee was laggier than any of the other devices on display (which included other 3G devices in the same class, such as the Moto Admiral and XPRT). All running a stock launcher. And comparing to demonstrations of the Optimus Black, there is definitely a discrepancy here somewhere. Something went wrong because we know it COULD be better, even strictly speaking of stock experiences.
Your Optimus S which I am VERY familiar with (my Brother, Mom, Dad & Sister in Law own them) was not initially without its share of problems. I can almost guarantee you were not 1st in line when the Optimus S came out because if you were, you would know exactly what I am talking about. We are also discussing a phone (Optimus S) that has been out for over a year with tons of support from people & developers continuously coming up with ways to make that phone better.
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Again, be careful about what you assume.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg...de-rooting-custom-roms-optimus-s-edition.html
I was, actually one of the early adopters of the Optimus S. We didn't have Clockwork mod or custom roms, or even JIT back then. I was a part of the scene for all of that, even contributed when I could to the collective. Do you know why I bought the Optimus back then versus the Transform?
Because it was smooth out of the box. Because without any tweaking, it had more FPS than the HTC EVO when conducting OpenGL 3D tests. Because LG did something right, and actually stood out as a smooth user experience.
Again, out of the box. No tweaking required. A stock Optimus S has much better performance than a stock Marquee, side by side. As well as just about any other device on display in the store that is a current generation handset.
Meanwhile, a better question to you in all this, is why do you feel the need to follow me around and post your personal vendetta against me in random threads across the internet?
Squirrel!
I have the Marquee and I am quite happy with it. My only complaint is the short battery life but a bit of tweaking should fix that. I received mine a few days after it was released.
I have a BS in computer science and quite a bit of experience with Android. Take it for what its worth
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Squirrel!
I have the Marquee and I am quite happy with it. My only complaint is the short battery life but a bit of tweaking should fix that. I received mine a few days after it was released.
I have a BS in computer science and quite a bit of experience with Android. Take it for what its worth
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How did you fix the battery life? Mine drains like a mofo
Try the suggestions from here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...improve-your-battery-life-responsiveness.html
Using these suggestions, most of us see around 3% per hour drop in battery and see 18-24 hours of life with moderate use.
I would also recommend Juice Defender Ultimate from the market. A very worthwhile investment.
Also, one thing to keep in mind is that cell signal really impacts your life. If you spend most of your day in an area that has only one bar or intermittent signal, you are going to have a struggle to keep your Marquee alive.
Hi,
I found myself getting annoyed at these rather low battery rates that come with the stock 1500mAh, so I figured I wanted a new one. Now my question to you is: what are your recommendations? Should I buy a similar replacement like the one from stock or should I buy a better one or even a third one as well?
I found some other threads here too, but they were all about choosing between one or two batteries, so nothing there.
I don't want anything bulking in my pocket or not fitting my cover so, preferably, it should be stock sized
Any help would be appreciated, and please if you have any specific suggestions please incl. links
//Fenkosmo
Did you try to flash some ROM's and kernels? Updated BB and RIL?
That can make a huge difference, but it depends what you expect to get. One day of use is not a problem, full two days in most cases require giving up on some functions that make a smartphone what it is. But that is considered normal for almost any phone in our class.
I could recommend you Django Manouche 1.1 (1.2 is in the works) with Spica kernel, simplest one without OC and CC. Great combo, very similar to stock ROM, quick and battery friendly
If that won't be good enough, well... you already have some extensive battery related threads here. I see 6 of them on the first page.
At the moment im running owain's kang build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517301
this is however slightly battery draining and I can merely make my phone last a day, but I don't really want to compromise these awesome ics features,
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If that won't be good enough, well... you already have some extensive battery related threads here. I see 6 of them on the first page.
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as for this, I mentioned earlier that these were not very useful, as they did only regard one or two battery models
Hi guys, I'm definitely thinking about buying an LG Optimus 2X, because over here in NZ it is by far the cheapest dual core phone, yet is similar/on par with many of the latest phones.
Before I decide to buy it however, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clear things up.
- Based on many reviews, the UI seems occasionally choppy, and I've also heard that many users aren't happy with a large number of bugs and crashes. Is this fixed when the phone is updated from froyo to gingerbread? Ice cream sandwich is also officially coming for the 2X which sounds promising.
- Is the battery life acceptable? Spec sheets say it runs on a 1500 mAh battery which sounds, theoretically, quite awful :/ I'd like to know if you get used to it or not. I'm not a huge traveler, so I'd use it at home most of the time, occasionally when going out.
- Design-wise, the camera protrudes slightly on the back. I'm worried that this might make the lens more susceptible to damage and cracks. Has this affected anyone?
I'd really appreciate answers for these questions. Thanks a lot.
Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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What protection is that..?
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What protection is that..?
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Even when you remove the back cover the camera still has the lens (just like any normal compact camera), The back cover is actually only there to prevent the lens from getting dirty, I believe, and it's easy to clean (every time I take a picture I clean the back cover with my shirt and the results are pretty good )
Now, regarding the OP, I bought it and I don't regret my purchase not one bit. It's true a lot of people complain about bugs and crashes but my experience even with the stock Froyo ROM was actually good. And when I flashed a custom ROM what was already good just got great.
So yeah, I would say there's nothing out there that beats the price/quality on the O2X.
@LarsPT
Uhuh, that's true. The lens has its own piece of glass in front of it which protects it. The extra piece of glass from the backcover is just to make sure that the lens doesn't get dirty. In my case, this extra glass remains dirty even if I try to clean it. Therefore I decided to cut it out...
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Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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NOT AT ALL
In CM, there has been ported a camera app(stock LG) due to which it is just good
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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I think you'll be more than happy with the O2X to do all of the above.
If you want to check picture quality you can check it here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150296662400657.555672.662115656&type=3&l=8675ea8903
The first four photos (take a look at the arc de la défense) were taken with it, I like it.
Thanks to everyone who's posted. I've just got one more question for people who have rooted their 2X. The web browsing seems quite laggy when using stock froyo (perhaps gingerbread?). When you root the phone, is this problem solved? Thanks.
Hi Beplexor!
When I'm surfing the web the only time I get a "laggy" experience is when the reception is not so great, like when I'm on the train or bus. If I'm at a fix position with HDSPA it surfs great. I haven't even felt the need to user another browser other than the stock one.
Really, there's nothing I can throw at this phone that it can't handle! I'm not the most demanding of users, but still, I find it great!
I'm glad everyone is so positive about this phone, but I am not.
It has lots of issues and glitches, and although tweaking, rooting and installing custrom roms is certainly nice, there is always this or that 'wrong' with it. It all depends on what you want.
If you like tweaking and messing around and don't mind some rough edges, then yes, it is a nice phone which works well.
If you want a phone that just works, then no, this phone is not a good idea.
Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all. And there are more people with this problem. The cell-radio keeps crashing. CM 7.1/7.2 does not have this problem, so I'm using this.
However, voice quality is poor, I have issues with Wifi not wanting to activate after 2-3 days and I need to reboot every 1-2 days anyway because of performance drops. After 48 hours it is impossible, for example, to watch a Youtube video, use Skype or play any game. After a reboot performance is great again.
So, it all depends on what you want with and expect from a phone. And of course how much money you're willing to spend and a whole lot of other factors
And as for the CM9 builds (ICS): the camera doesn't work properly and things like FM radio don't work (properly). Also, no HW acceleration so some newer ICS apps don't work either. So, I'm eagerly awaing the official LG ICS to see how that fares.
Bottom-line: I'm not saying the phone is bad for everyone or it's a piece of crap, I'm just saying that if it is important to you that the phone 'just works' and 'always works', then this phone is not a good idea.
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Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all.
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If your phone was crap with stock firmware I think you have a faulty equipment and should have asked for a replacement.
My phone worked great with stock and works excellent with custom.
No matter what brand you choose there will always be faulty equipment. Of course, some brands have tighter quality control then others, and that reflects on the price.
For the price of this phone it is normal to expect worse quality control, this just means the probability of getting a faulty equipment are higher, you just have to test it properly and send it back if it doesn't work.
Of course, if this is something you would rather pay more and not have to worry about this, I would advise against LG, but so far this is my second LG phone and I'm a happy customer!
Thanks for your reply. Based on my experiences with the device, I am pretty sure it's not faulty equipment.
The price of the phone was close to 500 euros when I got it, so the argument about the price doens'nt really hold, imho.
Let's just say there are people that are happy with it, and there are also a lot of people that are unhappy. Therefore, I personally cannot recommend this phone if you want one that always/just works.
We might have some semantics problems here.
In your original post you say "Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. "
When you say the hardware revision is a factor, for me hardware revisions are there because the older hardware had flaws. For me this qualifies as faulty equipment.
The "current" hardware revision, or at least the one I've got, worked fine out of the box. Maybe that's why you're not as happy a customer as I am, because you got a "hardware revision" from back when the price was still 500 eur. Now I can say it's much better, I've had no issues so far at all.
Hi guys, I'm only 15 years old and any phone I buy will be bought using my own money earned from a part time job. I want a medium-high end phone, but it's my own money and I'm not willing to cash out heaps, therefore I think the O2X will be a great choice. I understand it's not the most stable phone out there, but the fact remains that it IS a very affordable dual core phone.
I know that you guys say root and flash the moment you get it, but like some people say in this thread, the phone doesn't seem to work to its full potential e.g absence of certain applications, shady camera etc. If I get the phone, it's highly likely that I'll just wait until stock ICS comes out, which isn't far away; LG promised it within Q2 of this year.
Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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I'll definitely give that advice a chance...just wondering, if I were to root it, I'd just go into the Android Development section right? Could you please link me to clear tutorials on how to flash CM (such as the one you have right now) onto the O2X? Thanks.
I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Uhmm... I use the Unofficial Build (KANG) from Temasek. Don't worry, it's still CM but then with some extra little goodies baked in (cherry-pickings). With other words, I use a CM7 version compiled by an user, Temasek, instead of a CM7 version compiled by the official CM bot. But if you want an official CM7, then you should use the latest Nightly Build, because they're far more stable than the 'Stable Mod', not to mention that nightlies are even better too. Actually, you can compare Temaseks Unofficial build with the latest nightly, I believe there's not much difference between them. Nevertheless, a lot of people like his Unofficial builds.
There are no issues for CM7 I believe. I'm using it for about four months now (actually three, I also played a month around with CM9 which is a little too buggy for me, but it was awesome anyway ) However you should keep in mind that the camera quality of CM7 is not so good, compared to the stock camera quality. This is because the camera needs special libs from the stock LG rom to work good and those libs don't work on CM7 for some reason. But, there's a solution to that! Go to Temaseks KANG thread (link in signature) and go the third post. There you'll find a whole lot of mods compiled by other users. Download and flash the camera mod by Kostja_V in CWM recovery. This improves the camera a lot.
Hope this helped!
I didn't want to post this in the development thread because this was more of a question than anything else and I'm a firm believer of keeping things where they belong in the forums. I was looking at Hashcode's CM10.1 ROM for the Bionic and from what I can tell it is fairly stable. My Dad asked me to look into finding something that would give him a more stable experience with better battery life on his bionic. I think that stressing more battery life is the key here. Currently, he is running stock 4.0.4 and says it drives him crazy how frequently he has to recharge his phone. Having had the VZW Galaxy Nexus before, I understand his woes but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going down a bad path by rooting his device at all.
Basically, with the parts from above taken into consideration, what would be the best option in terms of a ROM or kernel for this device?
I highly appreciate everyone's feedback.
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I didn't want to post this in the development thread because this was more of a question than anything else and I'm a firm believer of keeping things where they belong in the forums. I was looking at Hashcode's CM10.1 ROM for the Bionic and from what I can tell it is fairly stable. My Dad asked me to look into finding something that would give him a more stable experience with better battery life on his bionic. I think that stressing more battery life is the key here. Currently, he is running stock 4.0.4 and says it drives him crazy how frequently he has to recharge his phone. Having had the VZW Galaxy Nexus before, I understand his woes but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going down a bad path by rooting his device at all.
Basically, with the parts from above taken into consideration, what would be the best option in terms of a ROM or kernel for this device?
I highly appreciate everyone's feedback.
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In previous versions, Eclipse was extremely good. However, I am not too sure about it now, as I use Blurrymaxx.
I've flashed everything I could DL and Eclipse 1.3 is, hands down, the best daily driver with all things considered. The CM10.1 nightlies are getting better pretty quickly but BT audio still has problems and the graphics are twitchy.
If your pops really wants to enjoy his phone I would highly recommend dropping the ~$40 to get a OEM extended battery/cover. It was a bit bulky/awkward for me at first but it keeps me from having to pack around a charger.
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I've flashed everything I could DL and Eclipse 1.3 is, hands down, the best daily driver with all things considered. The CM10.1 nightlies are getting better pretty quickly but BT audio still has problems and the graphics are twitchy.
If your pops really wants to enjoy his phone I would highly recommend dropping the ~$40 to get a OEM extended battery/cover. It was a bit bulky/awkward for me at first but it keeps me from having to pack around a charger.
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Thanks for the replies, all. I will look into the ROMs you mentioned. I would tell him to get the OEM extended battery/cover but he is one of those people that likes to have it clipped to his hip all of the time and he has it in an otterbox case which works with the clip. Does Eclipse or BlurryMaxxx get particularly good battery life because that seems to be his number one concern. I wrote a review/coverage of the UNPACKED conference and the Galaxy S4 on my website the other day and he read it so now all he can think about is upgrading to the S4 so maybe that's the route we'll be taking haha