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So I am Unlimited AT&T legacy customer that just went out and baught the HTC Vivid. I baught the Vivid for a couple reasons.
-Upgrade was advailabl a couple months ago. I wanted to lock in my Unlimited Plan before they start deploying LTE in my area. I wanted one the Dual Core, 4.5" screen, LTE phones.
-The display look much sharper sitting next to Skyrocket in the store. Looking at the AT&T Widgets that were the same on both phones. You can really tell the sharpness of the Vivid's screen in comparisance.
-Build quality was more "Solid." Weight was not a defining issue for me.
-I baught a first generation Captivate. So I got burned by the GPS issue. So the Samsung Skyrocket was going to have to be perfect.
-The Nexus is not going to come out for AT&T anytime soon, I think.
-I did not relize that the LG Optimas existed and is coming to AT&T as the Nitro
I am looking for some feed back on why other folks baught the HTC Vivid? Is HTC a solid company when it comes to updating? Do folks have high hopes, looking forward to, Sense 4.0 and ICS? Do any folks have any experince with LG? Did I make the wrong choice now that the LG Optimas is coming to AT&T as the Nitro? The last, and most important, do folks see a solid group of XDA Developers doing their magic on the HTC Vivid?
Now when I got burned with the purchase of the early build Samsung Captivate, and it's horrible GPS. The only thing that made the purchase worth it was the XDA Developers Community and all the effort they put in to it. So in the end I am looking to see which of the LTE, 4.5", Dual Core phones is going to get the most XDA Development, and be a good phone.
Thanks for any responses/opinion
As far as dev support, the Skyrocket has real root, and can run TMo S II ROMs already.
LG has a worse record if possible than Samsung for Android updates. Plus, they don't have much of a following. The build quality is great, but check out the Ghost Town of the Thrill forum. That phone came out in September, its already been passed over by all the dev support.
If you want high end android phone with dev support and don't mind losing LTE the original Galaxy S II is the best phone on ATT. Its almost identicle to the international version. There were ROMs for this phone within 24 hours because all the work on the i9100 was not lost. The first phone on att with ICS will probably be that phone. I would not be surprised if we have ICS before (if at all) att has a subsidized Galaxy Nexus.
I too came from the captivate. I never had the GPS woes everyone else complained about. It was slow to get a lock, but worked solid for me from that point. The i777 original Galaxy S II is much faster to get a lock, but not as fast as my wife's iPhone. I am extrely pleased with my i777, but I don't gave LTE, and would be surprised if I have it next time I upgrade.
I bet the Vivid will pick up a lot of the Inspire crowd, but I don't think it will rival any of the Samsung phones of late.
If I had LTE coverage to play with I might have been tempted, but its still first Gen LTE phone for att, so that scares me from both the vivid and skyrocket.
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I actually wound up with one of my Lines being the LG Thrill and that phone is still stuck with Froyo so yea LG has a VERY Bad record of keeping up with updates considering the Thrill isn't even that old. As for the Skyrocket it seems to have a bit of a banding issue like white lines when you are watching movies or what not that is quite aggravating. Oh yea also forgot the Skyrocket Does not seem to have FM Radio built in. It does have an NFC chip though which is kind of a bonus but with the horrid screen it really depends on what your looking for in a device. If you want a fast phone out of the Box and something with NFC than the Skyrocket is what you will want. If you want a phone that has Wonderful resolution and will Be most likely Just as fast as the Skyrocket once it gets root than I would go with the Vivid.
After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
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After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
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I understand liking super amoled more but actually preferring lower resolution? You must be one of few. Just resize the fonts if they're too small.
Doors anyone know anything about the LG Nitro? It seems to be a solid device specifications wise. How much damage does LG do with their launcher/modifications.
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loriolus said:
I understand liking super amoled more but actually preferring lower resolution? You must be one of few. Just resize the fonts if they're too small.
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Many system fonts are not resizeable. Go android. One of the few? Anyone who's vision is less than perfect and doesn't want to put on their reading glasses to use the phone. Now, I believe once the phone is rooted there are apps that can change pixel density? So there probably is a way down the road to fix this. But I'm just talking out of the box experience here. Anyone with the skill/desire to get into that will disregard what I'm saying anyway. I'm just trying to help the unskilled masses make their decision.
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-The Nexus is not going to come out for AT&T anytime soon, I think.
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So I start this off with a disclaimer that this is complete hearsay and in no way from an authoritative source. But! I was talking to a friend of mine who works for Samsung America in the PR department about phones, and I asked her about the Galaxy Nexus. While she wouldn't really say much, she did say that if I wanted it on AT&T, I'd have to wait till the end of the 1st quarter or beginning of the 2nd quarter in 2012. So, at some point in the future, the Galaxy Nexus will likely be available for AT&T, but it'll probably be a ways off.
I have heard both good AND bad about LG phones, but this thing looks too tempting to pass up. My week old SGS II will be heading back to AT&T as soon as the Nitro drops.
I was debating the nitro once i heard about it but after having the skyrocket and relazing the only benefit is the screen thats where it stopped. I feel that the dev community and just overall software upgrades (skyrocket is confirmed for sandwich 100%) and other lack of issues on the bulletproof skyrocket makes me believe that i made the right choice. Every time i play with the vivid and skyrocket, yes the crispy screen is nice but once you take them away from side to side the skyrocket isn't too bad.
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Doors anyone know anything about the LG Nitro? It seems to be a solid device specifications wise. How much damage does LG do with their launcher/modifications.
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Media guy here - i have a new in box Nitro HD, LTE, for AT&T, if anyone wants to buy it. PM me if interested. I got to play with it/review it extensively, and it's LG's best efforts to date. The G2x is crap against it, and LG has really stepped it up.
They gave us Nitro HD's to keep, but I'm on T-Mobile, and as much as I'd like to use the Nitro HD, I don't want to use it on Edge, T-Mobile connection, hence my reason for selling. If you want to buy it from me, let me know - thanks!
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I was debating the nitro once i heard about it but after having the skyrocket and relazing the only benefit is the screen thats where it stopped. I feel that the dev community and just overall software upgrades (skyrocket is confirmed for sandwich 100%) and other lack of issues on the bulletproof skyrocket makes me believe that i made the right choice. Every time i play with the vivid and skyrocket, yes the crispy screen is nice but once you take them away from side to side the skyrocket isn't too bad.
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If I'm not mistaken LG has said that the nitro along with the 3d optimus (the thrill here in the us) will.br getting ics upgrades. Im considering returning my vivid for the nitro cause of the screen n all I ever do is root to allow for tethering with out paying since I have unlimited data.
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If I'm not mistaken LG has said that the nitro along with the 3d optimus (the thrill here in the us) will.br getting ics upgrades. Im considering returning my vivid for the nitro cause of the screen n all I ever do is root to allow for tethering with out paying since I have unlimited data.
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I have the Nitro, new in box for sale. As I sad above, I am on T-MObile and can't use it. PM me if interested
I chose the Vivid over the Skyrocket because of the qHD screen and because it had an FM radio. I previously had a Captivate and loved the AMOLED screen, but after lengthy in-store comparison I felt the Vivid's was as good or better than the Skyrocket (at least at full brightness). Both seemed equally snappy. The Skyrocket was much lighter, but I decided I could live with the Vivid's weight.
Bought my Vivid the day it came out, and my only trepidation was, 'Please ATT, don't come out with any 720p phones in the next 30 days.' And sure enough, here comes the Nitro! But even if I could change, I don't think I would. Judging on the specs in Phonescoop (subject to change), the Nitro has the 720p screen, faster processor and lighter weight, but seems to be missing the following features:
- less RAM (720MB vs. 1GB for Vivid/Skyrocket) ** see Edit **
- less internal storage (4GB internal vs. 16GB)
- no FM radio
- no video out ** see Edit **
- possibly less battery life ** see Edit **
Will check out the phone on Monday. Like I said, I really wanted 720p, but I've seen the HTC Rezound in person, and while the text is sharper, it's really only noticeable at very close range - the icon sizes were the same despite having 78% more pixels. So for now, I'm still very happy with my Vivid.
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EDIT: The Nitro has DLNA, so outputting media on a TV is possible, just not with a cable. Also, Phonearena says the RAM is 1GB, so that 720MB might be the usable figure; comparable to ~800MB for Vivid. Confirmed the 4GB internal storage and no FM radio, which is a minor thing, but I wanted it after AT&T deleted it from the E71x.
The Nitro has an 1820 mAh battery, comparable to the 1850 mAh for the Skyrocket and better than the 1620 mAh for the Vivid, but worse claimed battery life, perhaps a function of the screen. 1800 mAh after-market batteries are available for the Vivid.
After review, the specs are much closer/favorable for Nitro, so it's more of a judgment call.
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Nokia 6200 -> Treo 650 -> HTC 8525 -> Nokia E71/71x -> Samsung Captivate -> HTC Vivid!
RAM
Does 768 to 1GB of ram make a difference? This is some what of a deal breaker for me.
Quick update - the specs are up on AT&T's website. I went to LG's website and downloaded the manual for the Nitro HD (LG P930), and it says that video out by HDMI cable is possible, and over WiFi/Bluetooth/USB in more limited ways. Perhaps these differences are due to differences between international and Americanized models. If correct, Nitro's specs seem even more favorable.
$150 in my area, may have to swap for vivid. ARG
I'm going fir the og gs2 right after church. Vivid is nice but no root, battery life, and some what leggy ui... I came from ios and so fat I am disappoint with android but I think its the phone. Ever since I first got this phone I kinda wish I hadn't.
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Just yesterday my phone didn't make it a whole day. I unplugged it at 7am and then watched some YouTube vids and by 7pm the battery was dead. Heck, at 6pm my battery said it had 40% battery and I used the navigation system for 5mins and it went down to 20%. Its kinda embarrassing when your friend ask for a flashlight so I had him my phone but the battery is to low for the flashlight to turn on. My other friend asked "I thought you had 45% battery an hour ago" and then hands his iPhone 4s to that guy. So no, this phone has been a disapointment. Sorry for the rant
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I'm going fir the og gs2 right after church. Vivid is nice but no root, battery life, and some what leggy ui... I came from ios and so fat I am disappoint with android but I think its the phone. [\b] Ever since I first got this phone I kinda wish I hadn't.
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If you think the UI is laggy then, trust me:
You have issues with Android. And may just want to go back to the iPhone.
Because as Android devices go, this phone is the smoothest I've ever seen.
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I just placed an order yesterday for this new phone.
This will be my first android, giving the iPhone 4 that I currently use to my little sister.
Specs seem decent:
1.2GHz Dual Core
4.5" qHD screen
1GB Ram
8MP 1080p camera
1.3mp front facing camera
LTE Support also with HSPA+
I am really excited to get it, I played around with one at the cell shop here in canada.
I liked it's design over the Samsung Galaxy S II, not sure if I made a mistake ordering this phone though.
Anyone have this or are getting it?
I have no idea how to overclock and/or root (or even what I could do with a rooted phone for that matter lol)
shawnj0
most of the stuff posted under this vivid fourm has worked without any issues.
You high on something? Your post has nothing to do with my OP
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You high on something? Your post has nothing to do with my OP
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He just answered your concern "not being sure if you made the right decision" between this and SGS2. Most of the stuff posted under Vivid forums about HTC Vivid is ok, that means no problems with the device, therefore you made a good choise. There are many threads opened on this regard, so there's enough opinion for you to read. I've played with both SGS2 and Vivid, and the Vivid was the winner for me even over the Skyrocket.
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You haven't made a mistake in ordering it. I had a Captivate and, for a day, the Skyrocket before moving on to the Vivid. A piece of paper is built better than the Skyrocket, or just about any plastic-laden Samsung for that matter. You will not be disappointed. Coming from an iPhone 4, you won't see that much of an improvement going from a Retina screen to the 4.5" qHD one on the Holiday (Vivid/Raider), but the resolution is there and it's very pleasing.
Eventually, true root will be coming to this device. Just for reference, the processor is actually 1.5 GHz but is underclocked to 1.2 for better battery life.
Amazing. Now all I can do is wait for it to be shipped to me.
I've heard good things about it, and some not so good things.
I did (while playing at a bell store) prefer its design over the SGS2.
It was so cool and I hope to eventually root and clock it back to 1.5 ghz.
This will be my first android, and from what it seems, spec wise it blows the iPhone 4 out of the water
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I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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My opinion: Jump. While I've not tried the GS2, I had a GS1. Other than Voodoo sound, it was pretty rubbish, and I definitely don't trust Samsung to make a smartphone anymore.
Also, Touchwiz looks like poo and runs like it too. Sense is a bit fat, but you get a fully functioning and fully integrated experience.
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
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ClippinWings said:
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
See my sig.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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I'd consider the display a HUGE advantage.... bigger than LTE even.
the SGSII display is so bad I would have returned mine whether the Vivid was released or not. And that's saying something considering i was using a Dell Streak with a shattered screen previous to my SGSII.
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
Absolutely. It's on HTC's official "Will get ICS" list, which makes AOSP/custom ICS even easier.
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
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Good chance.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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Well, have a free "thanks", I missed the quote button.
It feels pretty solid. It's definitely on the heavier side as compared with Samsung phones, but I honestly don't really notice. Far more durable than my Galaxy S Captivate, and less finicky than the Desire HD line.
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How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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quarlow said:
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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I may end up trying the Vivid for a couple days to see how I like it. Otherwise, I'll wait on the upgrade.
And I agree, I'm probably asking for some biased responses here but thought I might find somebody who has had both phones that could help.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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Jesus, it's hilarious when people pull the "LOL, all phones have better build quality then Samsung phones." No, they all have worse, what you have is better build feel.
Drop your vivid from a 4 foot drop, I dare you, and watch it shatter into a million pieces and dent the **** out of your phone.
Me, I've dropped my skyrocket on concrete countless times, no shattered screen (gorilla glass) and the "flimsy" plastic your talking about, I have one minor scratch.
But, at least it's not as bad as the iOS fanboys and their all glass phone, can't drop that from a 6 inch drop without shattering the back.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I'm going to assume you mean Skyrocket and SGS II.
The SGS II has the powerful Exynos, so obviously in terms of raw horsepower, it obliterates ALL phones.
The skyrocket has an LTE radio, but honestly, the battery drain is no different then my Infuse, which had AMAZING battery life.
Now that the LTE radio and HSPA+ radio are the same radio (not 2 seperate radios like on VZW's LTE phones and the Vivid), it saves power as it can actually turn off the data when not needed.
It comes down to personal preference. Trying them out is key. Ever tried Samsung touchwiz? Compare it to HTC Sense and there is a huge difference. I'm not alone when I say Sense is the most polished and seamless UI on the market. It integrates many things that other UIs do not. The sheer amount of widgets sense has is pretty amazing too. All of which have a 3d effect when scrolling between screens.
If you will be heavily modding, I say go HTC. Otherwise you will get bored with touchwiz and aosp ROMs, there's hardly even a difference between the two. With HTC you will have a wide variety of sense and aosp roms.
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I've used both- personally owning a vivid, and helping my friend with his gs2, rooting and romming it with cm7 for him.
The GS2 is extremely light, too light for me but I don't think it's truly a negative. His battery lasts longer than mine, however mine is faster. The camera boots faster and overall using the software feels solid. That is with the vivid locked and slowed down by sense to some extent.
One thing of note that no one states about the galaxy s 2. If you want to shoot 1080p video, it forces the sensor to zoom in almost all the way. If you don't believe me- http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1085142.html
The vivid does not zoom in at all, making for full sized 1080p footage. I prefer the screen IMMENSELY on the vivid, however I think the gorilla glass is a huge plus on the s2.
Really you need to weigh out what's important to you as both have positives and negatives. After using his galaxy s2 I was extremely happy that I decided to upgrade to the vivid.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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Battery-wise the Samsung wins, hands down... That's the vivds only weak spot.
Speed, in benchmarks the vjvid gets slaughtered... BUT in reality, its the smoothest phone I've ever used.... So if there is a speed difference it may exist with some graphics intensive games, but is irrelevant in my normal use.
And to answer the question of dropping the vivid... That's what a case is for.... The difference is by the time you put a case on the super thin super dainty sgsII, you loose any advantage of its thin profile.... While the vivid still feels like it was built to handle the zombie apocalypse.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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No S-Off yet, but we still have perm root and can flash ROMs. All in one package right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
So i have the AT&T Galaxy S II right now. I want an LTE phone with a 4.5"+ screen...
the Vivid looks pretty nice.
Questions:
-Is the Vivid's bootloader locked or unlocked?
-Is Vivid going to get CM9 officially?
-Is the build quality good? Better than the Galaxy S II?
-Is the battery life as good as the GSII's?
-Is it worth going with the Vivid now, or should I wait for the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD or the Sony Xperia Ion?
Thanks for the help!
Bootloader is unlockable via HTC dev site
I have owned the sgs2 aswell and the vivid is far more heavy but I feel like it is crafted better, however more breakable screen wise.
HTC has stated that the device will get ics first quarter 2012. So as long as we have willing devs we can get cm9, there are already a few working on it unofficially
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I have the Vivid but I'm goin to be takin a look at the Ion when it comes out. 4.6 HD screen,12mp camera and LTE sounds good. I like the Vivid but I have a problem with gettin new phones when they are released.
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Tbh anything over 4.3 just seems too much and SE has failed so hard in recent years I have a hard time believing they are gonna hit one out of the park.
The SGS2 was great for dev, now that the vivid is bootloader unlockable were gonna see some movement here. It's getting exciting.
Drew
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I'd wait for the Ion.
Came from the skyrocket and I do not regret it at all. Vivid feels like a phone. Skyrocket feels like a toy. Vivid screen is better. Skyrocket is good also. Vivid battery is great for me on a Rom I'm working on. Skyrocket was only good on cm7 . Table will turn once we get cm7 or cm9. I'll have to give the Vivid the belt between the two.
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Coming from the SGS (the first one), I bought the SGSII only to return it for the Raider after two days. I never liked touchwiz (I used ADW launcher) it's to simple and not very friendly. The widgets suck and the UI is to iPhone, with its big color full icons that take way to much room. The lock screen sucks even on the SGSII, if you enable pin/password etc you loose the ability of notification on the lock screen and no notification led (unless you use bln and backlight keys), this was enough to push me away. I like the ability to see text, change tracks, see the weather all without unlocking the phone and still have it locked with a pattern. Yes i tried Widget locker and al though it worke it involved to many widgets and apps just to get what the Raider already has.
These are the few things i disliked about Samsung and they are still an issue with the SGSII, all in all the Raider in my opinion is the far superior phone despite what reviewers say, if Samsung made the touchwiz better and not stip everything that is android i would have sticked with the SGS.
I had the Captivate before this Vivid so i personally am blown away haha. I have two co-workers who have the skyrocket and they want my white vivid. I personally love both phones but i recommend the vivid especially if you are planning to do any rooting. As of now i get about 2 days battery life using RumRaider beta11 with fairly heavy use considering i sell phones. Like everyone has said the vivid is heavy and you can feel it but i have noticed i drop light phones more because its hard to feel when they are slipping. the vivid of course doesnt have the amazing samsung screen though which is to me the only downside. Im running 47mbps on my vivids LTE which so far none of my coworkers have got on there Skyrocket. HTC also i believe is a far better company. its all personal preference though when it comes down to it. Either way i don't think you will be disappointed.
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I had the Captivate before this Vivid so i personally am blown away haha. I have two co-workers who have the skyrocket and they want my white vivid. I personally love both phones but i recommend the vivid especially if you are planning to do any rooting. As of now i get about 2 days battery life using RumRaider beta11 with fairly heavy use considering i sell phones. Like everyone has said the vivid is heavy and you can feel it but i have noticed i drop light phones more because its hard to feel when they are slipping. the vivid of course doesnt have the amazing samsung screen though which is to me the only downside. Im running 47mbps on my vivids LTE which so far none of my coworkers have got on there Skyrocket. HTC also i believe is a far better company. its all personal preference though when it comes down to it. Either way i don't think you will be disappointed.
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Agree 100%. But I can't see a different between screens eh
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Agree 100%. But I can't see a different between screens eh
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I however can tell a difference. I've had my Vivid since I picked up mine and my wife's white Vivids from Frye's in Atlanta during their 80 dollar sale this past Sunday. Coming from the 800x480 resolution display of the Inspire, this is more, well, Vivid. To me, there is a BIG difference between the displays in the resolution department. Yes, the Samsungs have vibrant displays from the SuperAMOLED+. However, the resolution is only 800x480. The Vivid, on the other hand, has an equally beautiful qHD display. The resolution on these badboys is a healthy 960x540. The winner of best display, for me, is the 960x540 qHD display of the Vivid.
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Agree 100%. But I can't see a different between screens eh
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Exactly xD its not much of a difference but samsung i believe is the only phones with AMOLED screens which gives a nice liquid color but HTC did such a great visual job that the difference is hard to see. I think its just cause i work with phones all day i can see it haha
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I have decided to just wait and see what comes out in Q2 and maybe Q3. I happen to be insanly lucky and found a Nexus One in the street!
I will be using that until either:
1) I can find the owner (I wanna be a good person)
2) I find an awesome phone that I'm going to be satisfied with.
There's also the Samsung note that is suppose to be insane. If u wanna check into that
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Don't forget HTC is rumored to be releasing the Elite/Congressional to AT&T this Spring. It should be announced next month at Mobile World Congress in Spain.
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I am a new AT&T customer, and got the Nitro based on LTE and that beautiful screen. I have always been an HTC guy, going back to the Touch Pro, so this is my first non-HTC phone.
I like the Nitro, I am not lovin' it. The hardware is awsome, the software, not so much. Battery life is not good at all, and it is laggy, which is a shock for a dual-core phone. LG is claiming ICS will be coming Q2-2012... but I am not hanging my hat on that. The biggest fear is the community support for LG is nothing near what I see for HTC devices.
My 30 days is coming up, and I am wondering if I should switch to Vivid. I am not that intersted in the Skyrocket - my wife got that and I really do not like the screen or the feel, really light and plastic feeling.
I did not play around much with the Vivid, which is something I want to do this week, but I wanted to get some feedback from the XDA community.
Thanks!
Not being biased here but I had the chance to use the Nitro, Vivid, and the GS2 and ended up with the Vivid. Battery life is great, dev support is great, and this being my first HTC phone, I'm loving Sense. It's very smooth and the quality of the built-in apps are much better than any other Android phone I've used. You can tell that HTC spends a good amount of time to make things look professional.
When I used the Nitro it just seemed as if LG wasn't trying very hard. And TouchWiz on Samsung got pretty boring. Plus the build quality of the Vivid makes it feel like you spent a couple hundred dollars on a phone.
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Before I bought my Vivid I played around with all 3 phones (Nitro, Vivid, Skyrocket). The LG Nitro seemed laggy just flipping the screens which I thought was weird considering its a store phone. I couldn't imagine what it would be like with apps running in the background. The hardware is VERY impressive so I hope the phone gets more dev support. My main choices came down to the Vivid or the Skyrocket. I thought the Skyrocket was super fast and the Vivid was right behind it. The Skyrocket screen was quite vibrant and looked amazing watching videos on youtube compared to the Vivid. That being said the Vivid OS was just a bit more polished and that sold me. True HTC Sense is a bit bloated but the vivid truly ihas vivid colors. I'm still running stock rom as im waiting for a few more roms to get cleaned up but I love the phone and do not regret my purchase. I bought it the day the bootloader was unlocked. If the Vivid did not have its bootloader unlocked I would have just gotten the Skyrocket since there are roms out for it that improve the stock OS. I hope this helps your decision.
I'm in Los Angeles, and, as far as I know, LTE is not yet official. Thus, this maybe a timing issue. But then again, maybe not--read on.
I had the Nitro. You may balk at this, but the only reason I returned it was because it didn't have an LED. I just like being able to look at the phone and know if there is a message waiting. This is one of the phones I don't carry around all the time, so it's handy. I tried but didn't like the NoLED app.
Now I have the Vivid, and I can swear that it doesn't get as good of a signal as the Nitro. In my office parking lot, I would lose service with the Nitro at basement level 2. With the Vivid, I would lose it at basement level 1 (1 level higher).
I would get LTE in many more places with the Nitro than the Vivid. I used to get Nitro at my home. I never get LTE with the Vivid now. Again, this may be ATT turning LTE off here for now.
I like the Nitro better in almost every other way. I liked the curved glass edges, I liked the screen resolution, I liked how light it is.
I may return the Vivid and wait for the Note.