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So I went from a thunderbolt to a bionic and not sure whether I like the bionic or not. I was thinking of trading it for a charge or even a x2. With the tbolt and bionic I constantly loose data and am without date for a while while my friends with 3g phones have service. What do you think is the best thing to do
Er, the Charge and X2 are both absolutely terrible phones, even compared to the BIONIC. I've used all three. The Charge has the same data-dropping issue. The Charge is also ungodly slow (Hummingbird processor - same as the original Galaxy S), extremely poorly built, and TouchWiz is awful. The only good thing about it is the display.
The DX2 is also very unimpressive in terms of performance, has very poor custom ROM support, and a terrible display. And 3G only? I guess if you live in an area without 4G, that's OK, but it's just an outdated piece of kit.
The BIONIC is vastly superior to both (except for the Charge's screen). Stick on Liberty ROM or a custom launcher, and the performance vastly improves. Data dropping is an issue with all Verizon 4G devices. Going for a DX2 or Charge would just be going from bad to worse.
So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue
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So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue
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Well if those are your only choices. The rezound is a much better device.
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After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc
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After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc
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Why? My thunderbolt works better. Thanks my bionic and it's 8 months old and was the first 4G LTE device. The bionic had like 7 more months in the oven and still doesn't work as well.
The rezound is fantastic.
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I would definately steer clear of the Charge. Slow and locks up, sketchy GPS and terrible connection to data. I had no connectivity issues with my Bionic. I loved that phone and the battery was good. I now have the Rezound. My son has the Bioninc. If you had connection issuses wiht one Motorola, probably gonna have them with another. I had worse data connections with the RAZR than the Bionic. you can just turn the Bionic to 3G only if that is what you are trying to do. If it does not hold a connection and continually reboots, might be the actual phone. Maybe get a different Bionic. I never had the reboot problems either and was fast between 3g and 4g and held a connection better thatn the Tbolt, Charge and revolution. Yes, I know, I have a phone problem. Had them all. If you have to get a new phone and dont want the bionic, stick with the Rezound. If you hate HTC, hold out for the Galaxy Nexus/Prime over the Charge.
+1 for avoiding the Charge. I had reception issues that caused voice calls to cut in and out. Also had major issues with GPS locking. Never had data issues with it, but that was about the only thing that worked well. Experienced lots of lag/redraw which I would assume can be attributed to the lack of RAM along with the dated processor.
Traded in the charge for the bionic and I was happy that I did. Charge locked up, and ran slow. I love my Bionic.
Thanks for the advice everyone, for now i will keep my bionic and search for someone who trade a rezound. I dont want to pay full retail for one, With both my bionic and thunderbolt i have date issues so i think its the carrier. With the thunderbolt i did like the screen and camera better but the bionic is a lot faster and all my sms.
I was thinking of the same thing: trade the bionic back in.
For work I end up going between 3g/4g and wifi a few times each day and the phone would lose data atleast 2-3 times every day. Most times airplane mode would fix it but there was a three weeks ago where i had to power cycle the phone twice in a row to get data to pick back up.... thats when i reactivated my OG droid incredible. I'll try the bionic when the next update comes out, see if that fixes my issues. Otherwise i'll wait for ICS.
I spoke to Verizon tech support who basically told me to wait for the update which should come out this week. They offered to "upgrade"my phone to a Droid 3 so I can have 3g at least. I refused and instead got credited for my data on my 3 lines. I'm trying to wait but I've had no internet about 75% of the day.
Data loss fix/bandaid that has reduced my data loss alot..
Set your battery mode to performance mode under settings. Also if you have juice defender installed remove that as well. Helped me.
It might be just a case of bad luck on phones you've received.
From my view, the Bionic was great...until the Razr, Rezound, Galaxy Nexus and ICS came onto the horizon. In the same boat as you are, and I have no idea what I'm going to do
Thinking about using my upgrade for this phone......i would love honest feedback positive and negative
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I love it! Stock it is binged but root and put on GingerVolt its amazing.
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I love it! Stock it is binged but root and put on GingerVolt its amazing.
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I agree. Stock it isnt that great, definitely with the bing. Not a bad phone stock tho, i used it stock for about a month.
But once you root and put gingervolt on it, it is amazing. Mt has done some great things with this phone. (and root is easy now with his kit in development section)
The LG Revolution has very little community support. I wouldn't get it if you like having the latest in Android. Get a Nexus phone instead.
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Wait a week, see what's happening with the nexus.
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The LG Revolution is a very good phone. It has a terrible draw back, it doesn't have anything to make it a "flagship" phone. It doesn't have expansive speaker sound. It doesn't have wicked gadgets and dodads. It isn't the thinnest, the lightest, it doesn't have the best screen. Honestly, if you want a phone mentioned above, they are out there. What this phone is, is a phone. But what this phone has, that no other phone has: fans. It has the most loyal fan base of any phone I have ever seen. I have had many phones, and the forums, and the dedications to the development of this phone, are beyond anything you can imagine. And a lot of these guys have never developed until this phone. If these guys were not here, there would be no LG Revolution today. But through, their hard work, dedication, and our desire to want more, the LG survives. LG knows this, they know we are here, I hope they use it as inspiration to create a better phone.
The phone has no major issues. The phone is easy to unlock, get in, and rom away. It is a treat to be able to flash something new, in 5 minutes. Unfortunately, because this is not a "flagship" phone, there is a limited number of developers. But there is a plus to that: quality roms, themes, and mods.
I love my phone. I love the community. I have upgradeitis (to be unhappy a day after owning a product, and a desire to buy bigger and better) (my wife hates it) but I am completely happy with this phone. I don't know how many days I have until I can get a new phone, because I don't care. I am more than fine with using this one, until I get piss ass drunk and destroying it in a mad rage. (story is for dramatic purposes only)
Pretty bad I would say. Especially if you already have a Droid Charge. It has crappy stock software and an overall unrefined feel that usually comes about with LG Android phones. Not even close to being worth wasting an upgrade on especially with all the nicer phones available. Honest opinion lol
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Pretty bad I would say. Especially if you already have a Droid Charge. It has crappy stock software and an overall unrefined feel that usually comes about with LG Android phones. Not even close to being worth wasting an upgrade on especially with all the nicer phones available. Honest opinion lol
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I attribute this answer to drug use. Really what is going on with the youth today.
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And honestly, from the Charge, you are looking at a step up in looks alone (Charge is dang ugly) but mostly it would be a step over, if you remain in stock.
I bought this phone for two reasons: cnet had a review, that compared it to the iphone. (although, it really doesn't beyond the surface, I think the iphone has a better core system) And with in a day, it was opened and unlocked. With in a week it was Superoneclicked. That kind of openness has not been seen for awhile.
If you choose to wait.. I would wait until the Googlrola comes out. Android is all about being open, I would hope that their phone would be as well. It may be a bit, Tmobile, and Sprint will have first crack at a completely Google phone. Until then, you could have this gem.
So I just looked up Motorola in the news, and they are already planning for the RAZRMAX, it will have a better screen than the Samsung Galaxy, and a bigger, better battery.
Some may call me crazy, but I actually upgraded to the Revo from an iPhone 4 and never looked back.
The community, the ease of modifying, and general fun-ness of the phone really made me happy.
My one major complaint about the phone is the poor battery life.
Good programs exist to help out with that, they just don't play well with the phone.
Other than that, I have never regretted the move.
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Some may call me crazy, but I actually upgraded to the Revo from an iPhone 4 and never looked back.
The community, the ease of modifying, and general fun-ness of the phone really made me happy.
My one major complaint about the phone is the poor battery life.
Good programs exist to help out with that, they just don't play well with the phone.
Other than that, I have never regretted the move.
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Indeed, but to my recollection, it was notable compared to the Iphone in that department. There are programs, and over and under clocking that can be done. Like I told MT, I just did the Gingervolt 1.3 and the new kernel, and I have a really good battery life. With in the next couple weeks, as Android learns, it will get better.
Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Well, I don't think any of us have the original home screens. As far as me, I run gingervolt 1.3, Mt has screen shots on the development pages. And then I am using meezys theme? I should really put that in a signature so I can remember. Its either that, or indys.
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Well, I don't think any of us have the original home screens. As far as me, I run gingervolt 1.3, Mt has screen shots on the development pages. And then I am using meezys theme? I should really put that in a signature so I can remember. Its either that, or indys.
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Mines the marble theme! You know the best one!
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Can u guess post screen shots using a custom rom for me
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Check out the development section and gingervolt 1.3. Then head over to the themes and apps. Check out all the themes in there! Alot of people have really put in time to really get this phone full of awesomeness!
Yes i just said awesomeness lol!
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I attribute this answer to drug use. Really what is going on with the youth today.
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And honestly, from the Charge, you are looking at a step up in looks alone (Charge is dang ugly) but mostly it would be a step over, if you remain in stock.
I bought this phone for two reasons: cnet had a review, that compared it to the iphone. (although, it really doesn't beyond the surface, I think the iphone has a better core system) And with in a day, it was opened and unlocked. With in a week it was Superoneclicked. That kind of openness has not been seen for awhile.
If you choose to wait.. I would wait until the Googlrola comes out. Android is all about being open, I would hope that their phone would be as well. It may be a bit, Tmobile, and Sprint will have first crack at a completely Google phone. Until then, you could have this gem.
So I just looked up Motorola in the news, and they are already planning for the RAZRMAX, it will have a better screen than the Samsung Galaxy, and a bigger, better battery.
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So there's no possible way on earth this phone isn't the greatest device ever made? And your opinion is a fact where mine is "attributed to drug use?" That's pretty childish I think.
I've used the Charge, HTC Thunderbolt, Droid X, Droid 2, Droid 1, Incredible, Fascinate if i'm remembering all. Did you just upgrade from a LG Dare or something? In comparison with these and other phones the Revolution just feels cheap and unrefined. Look anywhere on people's opinions of LG android phones. They aren't exactly in the highest regard. But that probably won't matter to you since someone with opposing views must be on drugs.
It helps looking at things objectively, just because you use this phone doesn't make it great. Also stop writing off your opinions as facts, and let the person decide.
OP get the Galaxy Nexus if you want something that will actually have the current software and will be supported in a timely manner. Also it's a polished and smooth device as evident by the reviews. A future proof device worth upgrading to I would say.
The revolution is the worst of the big screen LTE phones on Verizon. Anyone telling you different is fooling themselves so they can be happy with it. I highly recommend not getting it. In fact I'll ask you not to get it, as I dont want to see Verizon or LG make another dollar off it. Many people have already jumped off board and many others wish they could.
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Okay, All the people on here ripping this phone apart. No right now I wouldn't get this phone again given the choices I have of other LTE phones that have been released since this phones inception. If I went back to when I got the phone there is no other option for me. I think the Charge just looks like a piece of junk (if you like it go for it and buy it). The Thunderbolt is HTC and I'm just anti-HTC because of sense. With the phones out now I would either get the Droid Bionic or wait another month or 2. I don't want the Galaxy Nexus because the storage isn't removable (it's either that or the battery. Either way that's no go for me.) The RAZR doesn't have a removable battery so another no go for me there too. Who knows what will be out in a few months. Above all else OP get what you want. Go to the stores and play with each phone for some time to get used to it. Also, don't forget that Verizon lets you switch phones as long as you do it within a week. At least they used too. I hope this was helpful
If it was today, I wouldn't get this phone.. just like all hardware, new and improved hardware is delivered every day... but when I did get this phone back in the summer, I wouldn't have chosen anything else.. I picked it over the iPhone, over the thunderbolt, and over the charge... several things made me pick it.. the big screen, Netflix( at the time it was the only phone with Netflix.. ) and finally, IMO,it has the most responsive touch screen I have ever seen.. my gf likes it much better than her thunderbolt..
If you can get this phone for under 150 I would still get it today, even with the lte lineup.. it is much better than a lot of their premium phones and 100 times better than their cheap lte android phones..
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Only big plus for me is the vo-lte
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Don't waste upgrade on this phone!!!!!!!! GNEX is coming out on Dec. 9 and the RAZR is awesome itself. You will regret getting this phone once you see how the razr and gnex work. They are both clean and fast. If the gnex has a better radio than previous Samsungs, it will be the bees knees.
Hey guys, I am currently the owner of a Samsung Charge with a cracked screen. While still functional, its a little annoying. I am thinking about getting a new phone off eBay as contract renewal isn't an option. While I would love a Nexus, Rezound or Razr, the prices are way too high. I noticed the bionic is reasonable at $200-250 on ebay used. Seems like the only reasonable LTE dual core actually. How is the bionic? Sounds like people like them, community pretty strong with the development of ROMs? Any reasons to avoid it?
The Bionic is a good phone itself, crippled by a locked bootloader. Because of that Dev has slowed down quite a bit. If I were you, I'd save for the Galaxy Nexus.
Dont take my word on this, but I read somewhere that you could still use LTE phones with bad ESNs just by putting your sim card in them so maybe you can get one on the cheap.
Initially, I HATED the bionic because of the lack of development going on and that it had a locked bootloader and the wifi tethering couldnt be used even though rooted.
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I absolutely LOVE the bionic! There aren't as many devs out there for it BUT P3droid and dhacker29 absolutely rock the living crap out of the phone and they work almost fulltime with it. With the 5.5.893 update manually installed(its a ***** to install if you used safestrap even once) the phone doesn't have a buzzing anymore and is fast and smooth! I came from being a hardcore HTC product fan(see name) and I don't honestly mind the bootloader being locked right now as Blur is actually nice.
My suggestion... Buy the Bionic, learn about it and enjoy having a phone that is able to keep up with new phones(nexus and razr) without overclocking or kernal swapping. The sheer knowledge of the devs and the ingenuity that they exhibit is MORE THAN ENOUGH to keep me with this phone for several more months. Once the bootloader is unlocked, it will be a contender for the next year or so.
P.S. The 5.5.893 update actually gets rid of headphone buzzing and the data drop issue!
As someone who has owned both Samsung and Motorola handsets,there is no comparison when it comes to build quality. The last Samsung I had, I retired it early because I had to. It was literally cracking and falling apart and I am not rough with my phones. My last Motorola (OG Droid) I retired it because I wanted to go to 4G and it still is being used on a daily basis today. I just hope that all of the people who went for the GNex are still as happy with it 6 months from now. I'm pretty sure that I will still be happy with my Bionic. JMHO.
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Initially, I HATED the bionic because of the lack of development going on and that it had a locked bootloader and the wifi tethering couldnt be used even though rooted.
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I absolutely LOVE the bionic! There aren't as many devs out there for it BUT P3droid and dhacker29 absolutely rock the living crap out of the phone and they work almost fulltime with it. With the 5.5.893 update manually installed(its a ***** to install if you used safestrap even once) the phone doesn't have a buzzing anymore and is fast and smooth! I came from being a hardcore HTC product fan(see name) and I don't honestly mind the bootloader being locked right now as Blur is actually nice.
My suggestion... Buy the Bionic, learn about it and enjoy having a phone that is able to keep up with new phones(nexus and razr) without overclocking or kernal swapping. The sheer knowledge of the devs and the ingenuity that they exhibit is MORE THAN ENOUGH to keep me with this phone for several more months. Once the bootloader is unlocked, it will be a contender for the next year or so.
P.S. The 5.5.893 update actually gets rid of headphone buzzing and the data drop issue!
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Go to droidbionicroot.com. It is a great resource for the Bionic including wireless tether. The guy shows you how to do different stuff via you tube video. I played a coulple of games of Battlefield 3 on Xbox 360 with it. I had no lagging issues.
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lol exactly! I changed the entitlement check(super easy) and havent been busted by verizon for the month and a half Ive used it.
I don't know why anyone would ever get the Bionic now with the Nexus and Razr available. This phone is insanely disappointing with the locked bootloader.
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I see brand new Razrs on Craigslist for $300 all the time. Comes down to preference and whether you want to shell out the extra $50. I think the Razr is a little bit better build quality but the internals are all but identical. Running current firmware they're both reliable, quick phones. I prefer daylight visibility and a swappable battery to the AMOLED and slightly more rigid frame. YMMV.
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I see brand new Razrs on Craigslist for $300 all the time. Comes down to preference and whether you want to shell out the extra $50. I think the Razr is a little bit better build quality but the internals are all but identical. Running current firmware they're both reliable, quick phones. I prefer daylight visibility and a swappable battery to the AMOLED and slightly more rigid frame. YMMV.
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On ebay the Razr is going for $400-500, $300 would be a steal. Anyway, I got the bionic, was able to pick one up for $230 including the car dock and extended battery. I am sure its better than a Samsung Charge with a cracked screen.
I had VZW trade me a razr for my bionic because of 4 diff devices having the same problem with connectivity. Other than that I loved it, good solid phone. Invert I got past the Pentile screen which isn't that bad as others say it was like my dx on steroids. I'd still have it if nor for my problems with it, but like others say price wise might as well look at a razr. Whatever feels best
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If you enjoy tinkering with your phone, I would advise against the Bionic. The locked bootloader sucks, and I don't see it being unlocked anytime soon, if ever. Although there is some dev support, it's not much. Motorola has great build quality, but as long as they keep locking their phones down, I don't think I'll be buying anymore of their products. The Nexus has massive support, already, and the Rezound got unlocked, today, so expect to see dev support take off for that. If I were you, I'd stick it out with the Charge until you can afford one of those.
Edit-Sorry, I missed your post about getting it.
I just came over from using a charge. The charge has a better screen but the bionic is so much faster and more reliable. The charge did best for me with stock roms. Every custom rom i tried there was something wrong with it. So now that i have the bionic i took the latest ota update and i rooted it. Couldnt be happier. It was a good purchase as i sold my charge for 200 and got a mint bionic for 215 on swappa.
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I've had the bionic since release. When the droid razr and galaxy nexus came out and all the devs moved, I was disappointed and pissed off. But after enabling webtop2sd and webubuntu along with dhacker's fabulous rom, I think it's safe to say that I'll be staying here for the next 2 years. Droid razr and galaxy nexus may be newer phones but they are both missing either the sdcard storage or the external battery. The Bionic has it all!
Ooh whats webtoptosd or whatever
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If you are a Sam's Club member (or know someone who is) you can get the Bionic for $120.00 with the Renew/Upgrade option or $50.00 with the Add More Lines to My Account option. But if you buy it as a Replacement Device, it'll cost you $570.00. I bought mine from them about end of October for $150.00 and added a line to my wifes' account. They have come down since then.
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I recently came from the Fascinate which had a solid dev community, but the device was crippled with its lack of RAM. I am very happy with my Bionic on stock rooted. The screen isn't as vibrant add the SAMOLED but the device itself is fast and it has a ton of features. The build quality is far better than the Fascinate and hopefully the Droid branding will mean quicker updates (even though we are still on 2.3.4).
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I had the Bionic for nearly a year and was pretty happy with it except for the bootloader issue. Flashed the ICS leak and it was like a brand new phone. But for some reason it started having data drop issues. I couldn't live with that. So after my third Razr replacement they gave me a HTC Resound. Having a phone with an unlocked boot loader for the first time has been a real eye opener. I happily bode Motorola goodbye. (they are liars anyway with the empty promise of unlocked bootloaders on their devices. To date they still have not honored their promise.) The Razr was a dog. No battery life and majordata drop issues.
So I am a HTC fan now. So far so good. Hopefully this phone will last a while. I don't plan on renewing my contractwith big red so I can keep my unlimited plan. Don't need the newest phone just data with options.
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The bionic is a GREAT phone! 1.2Ghz dual core (rated at 1Ghz but the ICS update bumps it up .2) 1GB DDR2 RAM. Don't worry about the locked bootloader, they have a work around figured out on that now (its called Kexec) and dhacker29 is developing CM10 (Jellybean 4.1) for the bionic right now. I have used the alpha version and it is smooth as butter. It is alpha so there is a few bugs but it will be a usable daily driver eventually and that is what the SGS3 and Nexus is running (Jellybean). I have used the Samsung Charge before and the Bionic is leaps and bounds ahead of that phone. If you keep it stock on ICS (the official update is out soon or you can run the leaked version for the time being) or load roms it truly is the best bang for the buck out there in the 4G world. There's a good reason why this is the phone I chose to use. My $0.02
this thread is 9 months old, y'all
I have the opportunity to swap my Fascinate for a Droid Bionic +$150. I don't have 4g in my area yet but it is supposed to be coming in the next couple months. The phones are both perfect. I am in contract until march 2013 and have unlimited data. What do you guys think? I would miss AOSP but the Bionic is way more future friendly it seems like and I have to live with this phone for the next 14 months. Looking for your 2¥
I should also mention that I have another fascinate (with a broken screen) that I can revert back to.
Love my bionic after I flashed the 901ota leak data is solid the developement is not near as active here but if you have to pay 150 I would look for a little better phone like with a unlocked bootloader my 2 cents
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It's worth it. While the rom community isn't the largest, there are worse. The bootloader isn't really as big of issue as some make it out to be. I've had an unlocked bootloader before and had less rom development for the particular device.
The bionic is a very solid phone and has pretty decent battery life. Every Android has it's issues so there will always be complaints but its the best Android I've ever owned. Overall I've had 7 devices (5 phones + 2 tablets) and this one smashes them all.
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Coming from the Charge and only having the Bionic a couple of days, I'm definitely impressed. Even on stock it was pretty smooth. But I would try to talk the person down to $125. Seems more like a fair trade imo.
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Buy mine for $225 in fs thread and keep your fascinate. Check it out in my thread started section.
Thanks for the input everybody. I've had a lot of different phones and have modded the crap out of all of them. I had a droid X2 so I'm no stranger to locked bootloaders. Also had HTC incredible 2 which was probably the best phone I've ever had. Had the iPhone as well which sucked in almost every single way, even jail broken. I'm not afraid of the locked bootloader on the Bionic because I know exactly how I would mod it and can do it all with what's available.
As much as I love the fascinate, it is buggy. Major audio issues, poor call quality, questionable reception, flaky data, and all regardless of rom or kernel. I can tolerate it now but not for 14 months.
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Thanks for the input everybody. I've had a lot of different phones and have modded the crap out of all of them. I had a droid X2 so I'm no stranger to locked bootloaders. Also had HTC incredible 2 which was probably the best phone I've ever had. Had the iPhone as well which sucked in almost every single way, even jail broken. I'm not afraid of the locked bootloader on the Bionic because I know exactly how I would mod it and can do it all with what's available.
As much as I love the fascinate, it is buggy. Major audio issues, poor call quality, questionable reception, flaky data, and all regardless of rom or kernel. I can tolerate it now but not for 14 months.
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You won't have poor reception or call quality, Motorola has the best of any manufacturer. They also normally have great data but the 4g through them off, however they have fixed it in the .901 update. I recommend doing the .901 update and flashing eclipse v2.1 found on the eclipse forums and you will be very content. Also, one problem with the bionic is when you flash a new rom you will wipe a lot of things saved on the internal memory (same with the X except most things auto saved to the actual SD card instead of internal like the bionic)
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You won't have poor reception or call quality, Motorola has the best of any manufacturer. They also normally have great data but the 4g through them off, however they have fixed it in the .901 update. I recommend doing the .901 update and flashing eclipse v2.1 found on the eclipse forums and you will be very content. Also, one problem with the bionic is when you flash a new rom you will wipe a lot of things saved on the internal memory (same with the X except most things auto saved to the actual SD card instead of internal like the bionic)
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That's the biggest thing I hate about the bionic. It keeps saving everything to the internal memory instead of the external SD card. I have more space on my SD card ans its barely being used unless I manually move things there. I also get messages saying there isn't enough available space when attempting to update certain apps such as Google+ and angry birds even though I do have the space.
Motorola does have one of the better reputations in the android world (even with a locked bootloader). They are one of the best at keeping their devices up to date with new versions of Android and typically continue to update their devices after other companies stop updating theirs. They also typically have some of the best battery life on android, least from my experiences (I can only speak on rooted phones, not stock right out of the box.)
Purchasing a Motorola Android is typically a good purchase (not a fan of the Droid x series though due to physical buttons and the positioning of the button that turns your screen on and off or power if a hard press).
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Coming from the Charge and only having the Bionic a couple of days, I'm definitely impressed. Even on stock it was pretty smooth. But I would try to talk the person down to $125. Seems more like a fair trade imo.
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I also recently switched from the Charge. Bionic is much better, except for the camera and occasional data drop (just toggle airplane mode, no biggie). Much more responsive, fewer bugs, and sturdier hardware.
If I were you I would look for another deal. I had the Bionic for 2 months and ditched it for the Rezound. The camera and the screen on the Bionic are horrible. The only thing that helped with the Bionic were the developers, without them it would be even worse.
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If I were you I would look for another deal. I had the Bionic for 2 months and ditched it for the Rezound. The camera and the screen on the Bionic are horrible. The only thing that helped with the Bionic were the developers, without them it would be even worse.
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I highly doubt he will find a better deal. Maybe if he waits until spring and all the flippers grow tired of their nexus and ditch it, then he may get a better deal.
For me personally, the bionic is a great phone and I no longer have the issues it once. If you think your going to own an Android and not have any problems, your on the wrong mobile operating system as Android will have it's issues for a while yet. Crap, Samsung phones can't even run every app, including that new nexus. It has its problems also.
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Get the bionic, coming from the fascinate you will be extremely pleased. In my opinion, .901... camera is good, no more service drops... DO IT!!!!
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I'd go with the bionic. I had the facinate rooted now i have the bionic rooted. the facinate is no were close to being as good as the bionic
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Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I have had nothing but problems with it. Having an internal SD, continues data dropping no matter what framework. Ect you have, dying developer community (all that's left is DHacker's and his ics), and a bs stock core clock since all the new phones have the same core at 1.2 instead of the bionics 1.0. It has good specs, don't get me wrong, but just cause something has nice parts doesn't mean they all work flawlessly together.
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Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I have had nothing but problems with it. Having an internal SD, continues data dropping no matter what framework. Ect you have, dying developer community (all that's left is DHacker's and his ics), and a bs stock core clock since all the new phones have the same core at 1.2 instead of the bionics 1.0. It has good specs, don't get me wrong, but just cause something has nice parts doesn't mean they all work flawlessly together.
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Every Android has their issues. You're not going to get around that. The nexus has problems running some apps that we can run perfectly.
Not sure what your talking about with the internal SD card as it has both an internal and external. Unfortunately the default is set to save to the internal.
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My reference to internal sd is the sad to fact you just stated, your screwed useing the miniscule internal 1. And that's alot more than a few problems, plus there major issues, not a minor fault in an app, these are(mostly) hardware issues, not software. Oh, and the galaxy nexus runs on ics, of course its gonna be buggy, gingerbread has been out for a while so we can't blame it for bionics faults
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My reference to internal sd is the sad to fact you just stated, your screwed useing the miniscule internal 1. And that's alot more than a few problems, plus there major issues, not a minor fault in an app, these are(mostly) hardware issues, not software. Oh, and the galaxy nexus runs on ics, of course its gonna be buggy, gingerbread has been out for a while so we can't blame it for bionics faults
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All Samsung phones are buggy. I own an app development business and 80% of the complaints are from Samsung owners having problems running certain apps. Its not just the nexus that has the compatibility issues with some apps, but Samsung in general.
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I was wondering where we bionic owners came from and also what we like / dislike about our old phones and our bionic.
I came from the OG Droid to the Eris to the Droid Incredible to the Bionic. I really miss the development of the og, Eris, and incredible. There was just so much available. And I really miss the simplicity thoes 3 had. And I miss ICS on the Droid Incredible (a fully working 3g data camera working ICS).Didn't like the lack of ram on the Eris and og. Now to the Bionic, I love the omap4, 4.3in screen, front camera, 1gb of ram. What I don't like is blur, the lack of development, and I really hate the way this whole thing is set up with safestrap and having 2 systems. Its just crazy! And having to make sure you come from .893 or .901 before you flash a rom.What ever happened to root, cwm, format the whole system, boot, data, ect. then flash away. Bionic is root, safestrap, and hope you don't screw up cause there is no way to cwm from a bootloop.
Sorry for rant but its just how I feel. And don't think for one sec I don't appreciate what the developers have done cause without their safestrap/bootstrap and roms, this phone would be so locked down it wouldn't even be funny. I have just never seen it like this. Now lets hear where you came from and your likes and dislikes.
I came from the charge which I loved the light feel of the phone however hareare as well as software was lacking but I loved the impossibility of brick unless you are retarred before that it was a epic whitch was nothing special on a side not the charge had a a lot faster 4g speeds I lose about 30 percent of speed on the bionic
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I came from the Nexus S 4g on Sprint, loved the phone, but the reception was absolutely terrible I would go on international roaming inside my own house
I cam from Nextel to Motorola Razr to Iphone 3 3gs 4 then Droid Samsung s2 then
Samsung Galaxy S2 SKY i727.
Like the android brighter and bigger screen. Apps are similar but battery drain is definitely worse on the SKY.
Almost returned to Iphone 4s but just didn't see and advantage.
Learning curve for the Droid took about a week to learn, root, cook rom, brick un brick break and now I think I got it almost right. 60 days on droid.
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I came from the charge which I loved the light feel of the phone however hareare as well as software was lacking but I loved the impossibility of brick unless you are retarred before that it was a epic whitch was nothing special on a side not the charge had a a lot faster 4g speeds I lose about 30 percent of speed on the bionic
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+1, loved my old Charge.
I started with the Droid Eris in the early days of Android. Loved the rom community very much. HTC should have.had better quality control on production because most of my issues were physical. Went through 5 of them before Verizon sent me a Droid 2.
Used the Droid 2 until I was eligible for upgrade. Got HTC thunderbolt and used it for 2 weeks then traded it in for LG revolution. Loved thunderbolt but had random reboot issues.
Hated the revolution. Hardly any rom development for a phone with unlocked bootloader. Even had messed up boot animations that prevented anyone from having a custom boot animation for months after it was released (used some funky rle files instead of the standard bootanimatio.zip or other common boot animations found on Android).
Finally got.fed up with the revolution and paid $600 for the bionic. I love my bionic but admit that Motorola totally screwed it up when you consider that this was the most hyped android ever released.
In the future, I'll probably stick to HTC because they have the best rom development communities. The battery life isn't as good as it is with Motorola but the selection of roms can get me past that, especially when the roms will improve their battery life.
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I hate Samsung nor will I ever own one. For what can be said about the bright screen and everything, Samsung phones have some of the most issues.running apps from the android market. I'm always reading comments on 4 star apps from Samsung users having problems with the app. As an app developer, the majority of complaints come from Samsung users. I'd have to say 80% of the problems are coming from Samsung users. They are having issues that owners of other androids aren't having. In many cases, lot of app developers are having their apps rated down because of an issue that is Samsung's fault because the user doesn't realize the problem is with Samsung. With as many devices that are available, most app developers cannot ensure compatibility among every single device as its not possible for us to own every single one to test on. The majority of android app developers are independent and in many cases, are working from home. Since they're not being financed by major billion dollar corporations, they don't have the budget to buy additional devices. This is also a major reason many app developers for the iPhone won't come over to Android even as Android continues to outsell the iPhone. There is also an issue about Android owners being known for being too cheap to buy apps (not sure how true this really is, but it is a real perception. The majority of people who are downloading pirated content never would buy it anyways so the damages you hear about are greatly over exaggerated) .
While Samsung may have some of the sexiest phones, they're like having a Porsche running with bad spark plugs.
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This is good guys. Keep it coming.
It also sounds like people that have owned HTC prior are like me and miss it.
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dragon droid said:
This is good guys. Keep it coming.
It also sounds like people that have owned HTC prior are like me and miss it.
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I had a thunderbolt, and that's the reason I'll stay far away from HTC from now on.
Here's my response to the rootz thread
" I had a Droid X, and a Thunderbolt before. I loved my X and only got a t bolt for 4g, what a mistake that was. I rarely ever saw 4g with the t bolt, I thought my area had poor coverage and then I got the bionic and realized it was a problem with the bolt. My t bolt also had horrible sound quality, the mic and both speakers sucked. That phone had so many problems (I went through 6) that I won't be getting another HTC anytime soon."
Come on guys. I know there is more stories on where you came from. Keep it coming.
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I started with the htc hero than palm pre then htc evo then htc evo 3d then the DROID charge and finally DROID bionic. The bionic has been good to me ....but I feel like I need a little bit more. Im running eclipse 2.1 on 901 but im used to having the development like the evo. There were so many options. Im tempted to get the razr maxx but im afraid something else will come out that's better...even tho it will always happen
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Hold off on the razer. They are releasing a developers edition razer with unlocked bootloader. Makes me wonder if any previous phones will ever get their bootloaders unlocked since they are releasing developer editions now.
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Really I thought it wasn't coming to the US...
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I read something last night about it. Ill see if I can find it again and post a link later this afternoon.
Lets hear more on where you came from and why you like/dislike the phones guys.
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The one thing I can say I miss about the thunderbolt is sound profiles. It saved different profiles for the built in speaker and headphones, this is a feature that should become standard on Android.
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I started with the htc hero than palm pre then htc evo then htc evo 3d then the DROID charge and finally DROID bionic. The bionic has been good to me ....but I feel like I need a little bit more. Im running eclipse 2.1 on 901 but im used to having the development like the evo. There were so many options. Im tempted to get the razr maxx but im afraid something else will come out that's better...even tho it will always happen
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Your going to find a better rom development community with HTC phones. Its pretty much standard that HTC gets the rom development. If you're looking for the type of community that you had.with the evo, you will have to stay with HTC or get a nexus.
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Started with the Eris, then the Incredible, and now the bionic. This is not a bad phone by any means. But I am glad my DINC is still alive and kicking.
Again the phone itself I love. Just as others have said though, the locked bootloader and lack of dev support just ain't what I'm used too.
But I have raging fast 4g for only $50
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My roots are simple. Smartphone-wise, I started on Windows Mobile and used a few different HTC phones(8525, Tilt, Tilt 2) over the course of my early experience. Definitely easy to mod. However, I didn't like where Windows Phone was going(still don't), so I made the switch to android with the Droid X. It will always be special to me. I could have picked a phone without a locked bootloader, but I wouldn't have had the same raw power. Only 2 months ago, I upgraded to the Bionic. I wanted to hold out for the Droid 4(missed the keyboard), but Verizon made me a deal I couldn't refuse.
Will be more specific soon.
Wow, I forgot about windows phone. I had the Motorola q and q9m and actually liked em. I didn't like what came after windows mobile 6.1 and 6.5 which is what windows mobile is now.
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I came from a T-Mobile G1.
...yeah. So you can imagine the nature of the Bionic upgrade for me. It was literally an exponential upgrade in terms of everything. Lol.