So I went from a thunderbolt to a bionic and not sure whether I like the bionic or not. I was thinking of trading it for a charge or even a x2. With the tbolt and bionic I constantly loose data and am without date for a while while my friends with 3g phones have service. What do you think is the best thing to do
Er, the Charge and X2 are both absolutely terrible phones, even compared to the BIONIC. I've used all three. The Charge has the same data-dropping issue. The Charge is also ungodly slow (Hummingbird processor - same as the original Galaxy S), extremely poorly built, and TouchWiz is awful. The only good thing about it is the display.
The DX2 is also very unimpressive in terms of performance, has very poor custom ROM support, and a terrible display. And 3G only? I guess if you live in an area without 4G, that's OK, but it's just an outdated piece of kit.
The BIONIC is vastly superior to both (except for the Charge's screen). Stick on Liberty ROM or a custom launcher, and the performance vastly improves. Data dropping is an issue with all Verizon 4G devices. Going for a DX2 or Charge would just be going from bad to worse.
So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue
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So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue
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Well if those are your only choices. The rezound is a much better device.
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After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc
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After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc
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Why? My thunderbolt works better. Thanks my bionic and it's 8 months old and was the first 4G LTE device. The bionic had like 7 more months in the oven and still doesn't work as well.
The rezound is fantastic.
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I would definately steer clear of the Charge. Slow and locks up, sketchy GPS and terrible connection to data. I had no connectivity issues with my Bionic. I loved that phone and the battery was good. I now have the Rezound. My son has the Bioninc. If you had connection issuses wiht one Motorola, probably gonna have them with another. I had worse data connections with the RAZR than the Bionic. you can just turn the Bionic to 3G only if that is what you are trying to do. If it does not hold a connection and continually reboots, might be the actual phone. Maybe get a different Bionic. I never had the reboot problems either and was fast between 3g and 4g and held a connection better thatn the Tbolt, Charge and revolution. Yes, I know, I have a phone problem. Had them all. If you have to get a new phone and dont want the bionic, stick with the Rezound. If you hate HTC, hold out for the Galaxy Nexus/Prime over the Charge.
+1 for avoiding the Charge. I had reception issues that caused voice calls to cut in and out. Also had major issues with GPS locking. Never had data issues with it, but that was about the only thing that worked well. Experienced lots of lag/redraw which I would assume can be attributed to the lack of RAM along with the dated processor.
Traded in the charge for the bionic and I was happy that I did. Charge locked up, and ran slow. I love my Bionic.
Thanks for the advice everyone, for now i will keep my bionic and search for someone who trade a rezound. I dont want to pay full retail for one, With both my bionic and thunderbolt i have date issues so i think its the carrier. With the thunderbolt i did like the screen and camera better but the bionic is a lot faster and all my sms.
I was thinking of the same thing: trade the bionic back in.
For work I end up going between 3g/4g and wifi a few times each day and the phone would lose data atleast 2-3 times every day. Most times airplane mode would fix it but there was a three weeks ago where i had to power cycle the phone twice in a row to get data to pick back up.... thats when i reactivated my OG droid incredible. I'll try the bionic when the next update comes out, see if that fixes my issues. Otherwise i'll wait for ICS.
I spoke to Verizon tech support who basically told me to wait for the update which should come out this week. They offered to "upgrade"my phone to a Droid 3 so I can have 3g at least. I refused and instead got credited for my data on my 3 lines. I'm trying to wait but I've had no internet about 75% of the day.
Data loss fix/bandaid that has reduced my data loss alot..
Set your battery mode to performance mode under settings. Also if you have juice defender installed remove that as well. Helped me.
It might be just a case of bad luck on phones you've received.
From my view, the Bionic was great...until the Razr, Rezound, Galaxy Nexus and ICS came onto the horizon. In the same boat as you are, and I have no idea what I'm going to do
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Just wanna know how many people are happy with this phone and keeping it.
Vs
Returning it.
Besides the obvious bugs/screen etc.
I like it but I don't love it but not enough to return it.
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Love it. Keeping it.
Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.
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Keeping it fersure... getting 10megabits down with 6/up. snappy and fast... rooted here.
came from a droid incredible with a dope rom from skyraider... I was running for 36 hours at a time with no kernel changes or undervolt... so my only complaint is the batt life sucks in comparison.
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Welcome to 4G. Its not the phone its 4G that sucks your battery. I will say this; The bionic is by FAR the best on battery life compared to all 4G phones on the market right now.
I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!
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I adore it. I came from a Moto Droid that had a display that died on me, so I was waiting for this.
Yeah, the screen's pixels are a little annoying at times, but other than that its speeds are INCREDIBLE, the new motoblur or whatever it is called now isn't obtrusive (the phone is actually fast enough to run it where it is actually attractive), and best of all it feels great in the hand.
Also, the extended battery's replacement back for the phone doesn't add that much width to it, making it a really good purchase. Shame none of the cases they had in stock support the extended battery.
One thing that I think people ignore when writing about new phones is the sound quality, and many people I have called are astounded when I tell them that I'm on a cell phone. I was on the highway going 60 mph with the windows and roof open, trucks all around me, and my dad thought I was on a landline when I called him. However they made the microphone, they got it down perfectly.
Now, I *NEEDED* a phone because of work, so it isn't an option to wait for the Droid Prime or the iPhone 5. Am I happy with the Bionic? Absolutely. Would I have waited for an even better phone if I could have? Perhaps.
I feel like when phones come out, they are outdated within a few days unless it's an iPhone. Eventually you have to bite the bullet, and I think that the Bionic is the best bullet I've ever bitten into!
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Yes the sound quality is superb. I don't sound like a robot coming from tb. My battery is awesome. From 630 to 12 only down 30% moderate use and that's alot. Glad that some peeps are happy.
Ill love it once I root this bad boy and get things going but man in so scared scratching this phone lol out of all th phones I've own this is the mother load of trying not to get it nik or so. It's so shiney and im ocd. About my phones lol. The case I got was from Verizon its that double layer case with ruber and hard screen and I like that.
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Case that i bought was already fitted for extended battery so i asked the rep how do i get extended battery and he said that he had one in the back bought it and been on battery since then phone is great keeping
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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.
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I also love my Bionic, having upgraded from the Droid I. The only thing which I think it's missing is a widget to turn on/off the 4g. Other then the already mentioned 4g battery woes it's awesome.
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CM7 on the Tbolt has a toggle, but ya, I can see this as a pain on this phone. However, if you are using 4G - try juice defender. When the screen is off it will turn off data (and you can have your data turn on however often you wish to check for new data etc).
Highly recommend it.
I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.
Does anyone know the battery life with 4G turned off?
No 4G at all in my state yet, but our area should be getting it this year.
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I had to charge my phone yesterday twice. I went about 1.6hrs on the original charge then fully charged it. With heavy use it needed a charge around bedtime(2130). Today I got it off the charger at 0530 and used it heavy for about 40 mins, then barely touched it and it's at 70%. I have juice defender and it set to CDMA only. I do not like the battery life so far but I has ATK on it. I took it off and will see how it goes. I think the task killer is more harm then good.
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Yeah and I would imagine there is a lot of bloat that can be removed with custom ROM's or tweaking CPU settings.
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I am so temped to say forget and go back to old faithful.... Ip4. I can go like two entire days on a single charge. I admit I have never used an android phone without the ATK. Maybe that's my problem.....
I like it coming from two Htc phones. Im only having an issue with the vibrate sounding really annoying like its broken and the battery only dropping by the 10's. It dropped from 100 to 90 then to 80%. Nothing in between. Im on an extended battery and seems to be doing okay so far.
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How bad is the thickness with the extended battery, VZW is selling them local for 25 bux
And the battery by 10s is normal for the new motorola phones
Keeping. Best 4g phone on Verizon
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Toss me in on a keeper.
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Myself as well. My only complaint is that with the extended battery it makes it feel like I'm holding a brick when compared to regular battery, but that's a small complaint considering how well the battery performs... It's just how thin the device is when compared to other LTE devices with regular battery...
Rooted in seconds and im really happy with it now. Just make sure you update the bb binary once rooted. It makes a hell of a difference imo
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I'm going to be pissed if this comes out soon. I just got my D3 a few months ago
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/motorola-droid-4-exposed-to-our-wandering-eyes-comes-with-lte-i/
If this is true my D3 will hit ebay and I'll buy a nexus. This is just bad business, asinine.
I don't see how they can do this to consumers and think it's okay. I signed an additional 2 years onto my 1 year for this phone, just to be ****ed in the ass 3 months later. I will not buy anything but nexus in the future. One phone a year, like it's supposed to be.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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Non removable battery is an instant do not want from me also, but I'm just pissed about this ****. I will never buy another motorola phone, I'm done. Give me Nexus or give me death.
I paid full retail for this phone right when it came out, I'm pretty pissed. If that comes out within the next few months (from the looks of it, it will) it'll be goodbye moto and hello nexus for me.
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Yeah ill be pretty frustrated @ moto too.... problem is I can't live without a keyboard and for some reason moto is the only company willing to put out higher end keyboard phones
Well, the Nexus looks great (as long as you are ok with something that big - I am not), and I do love the idea of a pure Google experience, but nobody has actually used one; we have no idea how good or bad it will be. And, this is a Samsung phone, and is coming out even closer to the launch of the Samsung Charge than any the presumed D4 is coming to the D3. This is the reality - you reach a point to get an upgrade, you get the upgrade, and you stop worrying whether something slightly better is coming out in a few months - because it is.
I'm ok with a thinner device with non-removable battery - I have chargers everywhere, including in my car, and there are plenty of great portable charging devices that you can get for phones like that. After tons of issue with the Bionic over two weeks dropping data (3G, in areas where I know I have a solid 3G signal), I'm happy to have the D3 for the next 19.5 months, and give plenty of time to Moto and VZW to get LTE truly ready for prime time - because it's not quite there now. The D3 is a great phone and I'll be fine with it; not a single data drop since I've had it, and battery life is about the same as the Bionic (when it was running CDMA only).
I do think that this angle-cornered design of the Razr and this prototype is a bit on the unattractive side, though, compared with the Bionic/D3.
I don't mind that they are putting out another version of the Droid soon. It's a losing battle to have the latest and greatest phone. What bothers me is what will happen to OS updates. Will phones get abandoned quicker?
Also did anyone else notice non-removable battery, looks like I wouldn't buy it. I pay an and a leg for a phone along with a plan and both Verizon and Motorola act like they own your phone. Do they not realize why people buy Android phones? I can upgrade/swap batteries, I can run whatever programs I want, I can add a memory card, etc.
for people like sims and whitty who have been doing a lot of work on the d3 and are being ostracized, i firmly believe this is an idiotic move on moto's side. I'm probably gonna go the nexus route if the d4 drops as soon as everyone is speculating it is. This is some major bs.
At least I have the Transformer Prime to look forward to....
But seriously. Ugh. Waco has no 4G of any kind and won't for years to come so this doesn't affect me too much, but still. This will take away a huge amount of potential users and will piss off all the D3 buyers, especially the ones like me who bought it on full retail.
I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
Most people won't have 4G for at least another year. By then, that phone will be obsolete, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
*If you're not on Gingerbread, you should be shot*
Really, who cares about 4G when the 3G part is not on par with a 3 years old Sonyericsson phone ?
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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It is a big deal because if someone wants a qwerty are they going to buy the 3 or the 4? We'll be left behind with a smaller community, as great as it is. It's just frustrating and I've had it with moto's bull****.
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I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
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Interesting point, if it does have a GSM radio, this will be the first Global capable phone with LTE. How wold that even work, 2 SIM cards?
Non-replaceable battery will keep it off my list too. I'm in the NYC Metro Area and I know a few people with LTE phones, Bionic, Charge and TB. All have the same complaint, the battery life is horrible and they have constant connection issues. I'm waiting until next year summer-fall when the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chips come out.
i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
Motorola can't be serious, Droid 3 is only about 4 month old.
And I don't really like the curved design
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i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
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If you're on unlimited data now (using 3G), when you switch to a 4G phone you stay on unlimited data (now using 4G).
Im not sure what all of the complaining I've read on here is all about cause this phone is amazing. I've had just about every Verizon android phone made and this byfar blows them all out if the water. It is so fast and responsive. Screen is completely adequate. Every other phone I've had has always had a major issue (except the droid x) but the bionic to me is flawless. I haven't dropped data, calls are clear, internet flies, etc. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I have an upgrade coming on dec 9th. Ill probably use it to by that stupid nexus samsung phone and resell it for double to have some extra christmas cash. Haha. Go Motorola...
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I agree. This phone has been great for me as well. While the camera wasn't amazing, the leaked OTA improved both that and the data drops for me. This is the only Android phone I've been happy with stock, which is saying a lot lol. This is also my first Verizon phone. Coming from Sprint, this network is far superior- and I have 4G nearly everywhere I go. I couldn't ask for more from a phone.
Heck yeah. I haven't rooted or done a leaked update yet because my laptop is currently down... don't know if I actually will though. Other than the camera focusing a tad slow I see no reason not to wait for the official ota.
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I know this thread is a bit old, but wanted to comment. Like with my Thunderbolt, I'm reading every thread that's interesting.
I got my Bionic on Thursday and I'm loving it. I loved my Thunderbolt, and loved it even more after rooting. The Bionic is running very smooth for me, with only a few data drops yesterday, that I'm not so sure was related to the building that I was in. I'm not sure I want to root it. Nandroid backups and Titanium are the only things I sort of miss at the moment. I know it'll come, but will be a while. Like my Thunderbolt and Xoom were.
I have to agree too! However, this is technically my first smartphone, so I would be happy with any Android device, I believe. I did have the LG Revolution for 1 week before my Bionic. I always wanted the Bionic first, but there was a mix and I got the Revolution instead. The Bionic certainly blows the Revolution out of the water. I was also hesitant to root my Bionic because I didn't see the reason for it other than tethering. But I did root it and have had no issues, except some that were due to my inexperience with smartphones an rooting.
Root it to freeze bloat and block ads if anything. Plus make a backup.
I loved my bionic too, but wait until the data drops happen enough. You'll edit your post. It made me bonkers.
Glad you're happy though.
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My first 2 set of Bionic's had battery draining issue, data dropping out of the blue, phone going into sleep and not waking. After 2nd replacement and 5.5.893 update, no issues not so ever. My 4g was out of service few times but that was due to Verizon network NOT the phone itself. I rarely drop data, if any and battery life is great (I have extended battery).
So far so good
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I have to agree too! However, this is technically my first smartphone, so I would be happy with any Android device, I believe. I did have the LG Revolution for 1 week before my Bionic. I always wanted the Bionic first, but there was a mix and I got the Revolution instead. The Bionic certainly blows the Revolution out of the water. I was also hesitant to root my Bionic because I didn't see the reason for it other than tethering. But I did root it and have had no issues, except some that were due to my inexperience with smartphones an rooting.
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I went from an LG 800g Tracfone to the Bionic. So it was a big leap outta the 19th century for me too. But even compared to other phones I've seen, I love my Bionic. I rooted about three weeks after purchase, Titanium BU, froze a few apps, got used to the phone, and over time have downloaded over 100 apps. Don't use half of them! LOL! But this little computer is awesome!
Now it is time to 4ever root, and go to 893. Not sure about 901 yet. I might be patient and wait for Moto to send it out. But a lot of folks like 901!
My B-i-o-n-i-c! My precioussssssss! Ooops! Sorry 'bout that . Kinda slipped off into that insane part of my mind.
I agree 100%. I actually very much like the stock user interface, and this phone FLIES. I live in an area where there is no 4G (yet) and I browse the internet faster than some of my friends with AT&T HSPA+ phones. This phone is freaking amazing.
The people who complain about the bionic, will complain about any phone they get. Many of them are just looking for an excuse to get a newer phone such as the razr or the galaxy nexus. Some of them need to be slapped around and told "your acting like an apple fanboy".
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The people who complain about the bionic, will complain about any phone they get. Many of them are just looking for an excuse to get a newer phone such as the razr or the galaxy nexus. Some of them need to be slapped around and told "your acting like an apple fanboy".
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Lol. Not true for me. I like the bionic, but have noticed FAR less data drops on my razr.
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I know there's been a lot of discussion of recent handsets, given that the Bionic was the first of a flurry of next-generation phones, made all the worse by Motorola's steadfast refusal to hand us the keys to our phone and the various software issues they've so far completely failed to address. Given all that, it's very easy to down on the Bionic or feel suckered.
But where's the love for the Bionic?
I've been offered a different handset (as the software issues on the Bionic have been killing me) by VzW, offered the Razr, Rezound, and if I'm willing to wait, even the GNex. But as I've been considering that, I've realized that the Bionic really is the sweet spot for me.
We're quite nearly as fast as the Razr, same other specs, none of Moto's rubbish Smart Actions, and we can replace our batteries or get an extended battery. Not to mention that we'll be getting the bugfix release sooner than they will, so likely, our network drops will be fixed first.
The HTC Rezound is a great phone, but it's thicker than the Bionic, and that's without the (still unannounced) extended battery. It's also slowed down by HTC Sense, and they (as of last I checked) still don't even have root. It's got a beautiful screen, and a slight speed bump, but not much else on us.
The Galaxy Nexus LTE hasn't even been released yet, but we know that it won't have an SD Card slot (and thus, won't ever support 64GB cards as the Bionic already does), and that the sound quality from the speakers is very quiet, especially compared to Motorola's speakers. We also know that we can get good battery life, and that our extended battery actually fits the phone nicely versus their (still not announced) batteries. They've got a nicer screen, NFC, and likely a nicer camera, but at the end of the day, if you need extended batteries and extended storage, the Bionic is all you've got.
But, the Nexus Bootloader is unlocked. That's the main temptation for me to go over there, and for many of us, it's a sine qua non. That said, that's something that's well within Motorola's power to fix, either intentionally, by accident, or "by accident". They likely won't, but hey, there's hope. And even now, there's a growing ROM-building community, which will likely only grow larger as the software issues are fixed and ICS nears.
Of course, the software issues are huge, and I don't mean to excuse Motorola's massive screwup there. Motorola has really screwed us over with the software on this phone, and their refusal to unlock the damned bootloaders is huge. But hopefully they'll learn and improve the software from there.
In short, in the Bionic, we've got plenty of (expandable) storage, good speakers, a reasonable extended battery, good cases, promises of ICS, and a chipset that can keep up with anything on the market.
It's not perfect, but nothing ever is. For some of you, the other phones may offer something better, and more power to you, but for people like me who like large battery and storage capacity, even after this latest glut of releases, the Bionic will still be the best choice. It's not a dead headset, surpassed and unworthy of development. It's not been replaced by, well, anything, it's just one good option among other options.
So, if you're one of the people like me for whom the Bionic really still is the best phone on the market, hang in there, and don't let the haters get you down.
I love it!
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Bionic ftw!
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I completely agree with everything in the OP. The Bionic is a great phone even with its flaws and poor treatment from the manufacturer, and I believe it will only get better if Motorola holds to their promises of bugfixes and ICS, and the possiblity of an unlocked bootloader.
I can't believe I just read all of that on my phone.... but I'm glad that I did! The Bionic goes to 11!!
jus curious, when u were offered other phones...did u already cross the 14days return period ?
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I know there's been a lot of discussion of recent handsets, given that the Bionic was the first of a flurry of next-generation phones, made all the worse by Motorola's steadfast refusal to hand us the keys to our phone and the various software issues they've so far completely failed to address. Given all that, it's very easy to down on the Bionic or feel suckered.
But where's the love for the Bionic?
I've been offered a different handset (as the software issues on the Bionic have been killing me) by VzW, offered the Razr, Rezound, and if I'm willing to wait, even the GNex. But as I've been considering that, I've realized that the Bionic really is the sweet spot for me.
We're quite nearly as fast as the Razr, same other specs, none of Moto's rubbish Smart Actions, and we can replace our batteries or get an extended battery. Not to mention that we'll be getting the bugfix release sooner than they will, so likely, our network drops will be fixed first.
The HTC Rezound is a great phone, but it's thicker than the Bionic, and that's without the (still unannounced) extended battery. It's also slowed down by HTC Sense, and they (as of last I checked) still don't even have root. It's got a beautiful screen, and a slight speed bump, but not much else on us.
The Galaxy Nexus LTE hasn't even been released yet, but we know that it won't have an SD Card slot (and thus, won't ever support 64GB cards as the Bionic already does), and that the sound quality from the speakers is very quiet, especially compared to Motorola's speakers. We also know that we can get good battery life, and that our extended battery actually fits the phone nicely versus their (still not announced) batteries. They've got a nicer screen, NFC, and likely a nicer camera, but at the end of the day, if you need extended batteries and extended storage, the Bionic is all you've got.
But, the Nexus Bootloader is unlocked. That's the main temptation for me to go over there, and for many of us, it's a sine qua non. That said, that's something that's well within Motorola's power to fix, either intentionally, by accident, or "by accident". They likely won't, but hey, there's hope. And even now, there's a growing ROM-building community, which will likely only grow larger as the software issues are fixed and ICS nears.
Of course, the software issues are huge, and I don't mean to excuse Motorola's massive screwup there. Motorola has really screwed us over with the software on this phone, and their refusal to unlock the damned bootloaders is huge. But hopefully they'll learn and improve the software from there.
In short, in the Bionic, we've got plenty of (expandable) storage, good speakers, a reasonable extended battery, good cases, promises of ICS, and a chipset that can keep up with anything on the market.
It's not perfect, but nothing ever is. For some of you, the other phones may offer something better, and more power to you, but for people like me who like large battery and storage capacity, even after this latest glut of releases, the Bionic will still be the best choice. It's not a dead headset, surpassed and unworthy of development. It's not been replaced by, well, anything, it's just one good option among other options.
So, if you're one of the people like me for whom the Bionic really still is the best phone on the market, hang in there, and don't let the haters get you down.
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afma_afma said:
jus curious, when u were offered other phones...did u already cross the 14days return period ?
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Yes, this was only last week (purchased shortly after release), but I've been in touch with them about these issues since very quickly after the 14 days. I've called Verizon nearly 15 times, and only recently have they made this offer, and that's only because I've had especially bad troubles with the travel and amount of wired-headset-calling I do. I doubt that they'll be open for that if you don't have a history of calls and complaints.
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Yes, this was only last week (purchased shortly after release), but I've been in touch with them about these issues since very quickly after the 14 days. I've called Verizon nearly 15 times, and only recently have they made this offer, and that's only because I've had especially bad troubles with the travel and amount of wired-headset-calling I do. I doubt that they'll be open for that if you don't have a history of calls and complaints.
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cool..thank u for the info..my bionic has been sailing smooth with no issues this far..i am hoping it stays that way..
Actually the galaxy nexus got slammed for having an absolutely terrible camera. I was going to see my bionic and get it, until I saw that. Dealbreaker.
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nosympathy said:
Actually the galaxy nexus got slammed for having an absolutely terrible camera. I was going to see my bionic and get it, until I saw that. Dealbreaker.
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It's certainly not worse than the bionic camera.
I'd trade your bionic in a heartbeat. Mine is in a drawer collecting dust because it's awful. Most regretted phone purchase of my life.
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my bionic is garbage the constant data dropping makes me want to throw it against a wall and the only thing stopping me from doing so is the hope that I can sell it to some chump for at least 200 bucks when the nexus comes out.
smartphone minus data connection = ****ty phone with poor battery life.
From what I hear they say the data dropping out is common with all 4g devices. I cave from the thunderbolt and had the same experience. I'm seriously considering switching to a 3g device
i had a blackberry to a facinate now the bionic. BIONIC IS THE BEST
Th3demolitionman said:
From what I hear they say the data dropping out is common with all 4g devices. I cave from the thunderbolt and had the same experience. I'm seriously considering switching to a 3g device
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You can force you phone into CDMA only instead of LTE/CDMA. I was told at a VZW store thats a possible work around. I did switch back to my OG droid incredible until the bionic gets software fixes.
I also wish the screen was better, but getting everything i want in a phone would make it 800$+
Just got the Bionic a couple days ago. I haven't had any data issues yet but I have it in CDMA only mode at the moment. Will test it in a 4g area in a couple days as I am right on the edge of a 4g area. I also have a Inc2 and have had a Fascinate and D1. This phone rocks for me. Battery is decent, its fast, solid build, blur (nonblur) is kind of nice now. Camera software isn't great but it isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Phone is also a little thick. I am optimistic that the data bug will be fixed with the next update.
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eallan said:
It's certainly not worse than the bionic camera.
I'd trade your bionic in a heartbeat. Mine is in a drawer collecting dust because it's awful. Most regretted phone purchase of my life.
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The Bionic camera is not one of the problems with this phone. It promptly takes good pictures and shoots very usable videos.
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The Bionic camera is not one of the problems with this phone. It promptly takes good pictures and shoots very usable videos.
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It's the absolute worst cell phone camera I've ever used. It's completely laughable and almost unusable. I feel sorry for you thinking it's "good."
The camera in Theoryrom makes it not one of the problems in this phone.
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It's the absolute worst cell phone camera I've ever used. It's completely laughable and almost unusable. I feel sorry for you thinking it's "good."
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It all depends what system you are on.
886 - agreed, worst camera ever!
893 - much improved
so i have had the charge for about 3 months love the screen pretty decent phone however my father in law offered to trade me for the bionic it has not been rooted has the most recent update can anyone tell what your opionions are has the update really solved the data issue or no do you regret going to the bionic biggest thing that makes me wanna jump ship is the fact that there will eventually be a official ics charge will never get it as far as i know anyway so how has the data been working howmany times do you lose data through out the day and for how long how the battery etc.. thanks need some insight before leaping
Do it and don't look back. I had the Charge for a few months and switched to the Bionic. For the first time in a long time I am happy with my device.
What about data how has it been working for you? That is my biggest issue ill probably just stay stock first phone in about 2 years I probably would be OK staying stock
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Had the charge . Loved it! rooted it and what not .
Then the bionic came out (;
I have both. I swap a ton cause I'm learning to modify roms on the bionic, and the charge lets me still have an active phone while the bionic is in progress.
Both have data issues. Bionic is a far better device. Charge is slightly more consistent with holding data connection.
I'm in a 3g only area.
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Im in the same boat as the OP. I have the charge and tech support is sending me a bionic as a replacement. I am really hoping that data is much more consistent than the charges and doesn't drop nearly as much. I used to have the d2g and loved it except the random reboots. Does the bionic suffer from the same reboot issues?
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Wishing more people would pipe in :'(
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I've had both phones as well. The Bionic is the overall better device. The smoothness and speed of the device made it a clear choice over the Charge. Of course the Charge has a beautiful screen, but the Bionic screen isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
The recent update has fixed my data issues. No longer any need for me to toggle data or do random reboots in order to use my data. The battery life seems to be about the same, except for the fact that I don't have to jump through as many hoops (black wallpapers, lower screen brightness, turning off animations, and etc.) in order to get the Bionic to last all day. Go with the Bionic.
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Sweet I appreciate the feedback
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I bought the charge as an upgrade and have had many different issues with it. Battery life, call drops, screeching during calls, data outages etc. Bought a Bionic and would not go back. The gps alone is worth the swap. Connects in about 5 seconds.
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Never had data issue with bionic. I get kicked out of 4g all the time with charge and I had to airplane tackle or restart it all the time.
I had the Charge for a few months and was upgraded to the Bionic. I like the Bionic better, especially since the update. Data and a few other issues have been fixed on my Bionic! I really didn't notice much difference between the screens. For me, the Bionic is brighter than the Charge. The Charge, and I had three, seemed to get slightly better reception than the Bionic. I'm guessing it may have a better antenna. I also prefer the Samsung overlay to Motorola's. The Charge has a button to restart the phone, rather than just turn off. The Charge has an option for BCCing yourself on all emails. The Bionic does not. It's simple things like that that are missing on the Bionic. The Bionic is more powerful and has a longer useable lifespan. I plan to purchase an android tablet. Because of where I think Andoid is headed, I want both phone and tablet to have the same operating system. Because of this, having a phone that will be upgraded to ICS is important.
Even though the Charge is slightly more useable and may have a slightly better antenna, I found the Bionic to be slightly more reliable. With the upgrade to ICS coming and a dual core processor, the Bionic is my clear favorite between the two phones.