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"EDGE/2G was previously using the 850 MHz band, which compared to the new 1900 MHz offered superior coverage, especially indoors. The switch, as confirmed by AT&T sources, is designed to boost the network's 3G coverage"
http://gizmodo.com/5122738/att-downgrading-2g-service-stranding-older-phones-with-lesser-service
I know this is going to piss off a lot of people with dumbphones but for once I dont totally hate ATT.
Cool, no etf for me. Now I just need to get some cash.
I spoke too soon.... I still hate ATT. No data in NYC make Homer mad.
I'm one of the few
I did notice that I had the "H" at home the other day. I previously only had a "G" at home. I live quite a ways from the metro area, and I appreciate the speed boost.
behrouz said:
I spoke too soon.... I still hate ATT. No data in NYC make Homer mad.
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What do you mean no data in nyc? Im all over the boro's. I get it everywhere? except the Manhattan underground.
What places in NYC don't you get it im curious.
Hi! I have a nexus one on AT&T and absolutely love it, but due to cheaper prices and better customer support I am going to switch to T-MOBILE. So is the coverage with T-MOBILE with nexus one 3g issues worth it? How is T-MOBILE service? Please post your speeds and location in the comments. I live in East Texas and get about 2.5 megs with AT&T. Thanks forrest.
I've been with tmobile for about 6 years and their customer service is pretty great but their 3G coverage is a bit spotty in some areas. Personally, I usually have 3G and H speeds and I live in the Miami-dade and broward county in Florida. I can't really give you my speeds because I haven't taken the time to find out but they usually have a map that shows their coverage, though I don't know how accurate they are. Hope I was of some help.
I live in Sacramento and get about 700-900kbps. Nowhere near 2 megs. I've heard of other areas that get much faster speeds (HSPA+ areas). However, I rarely run into an area where I won't pick up 3G.
i live in miami florida, their service is horrible; atleast in my neighborhood. i cant get 70k downloads to save my life.
I just did one quick speed test and I got 1.77 Mbps
Yea I'm picking up my N1 tonight from the FedEx hub since my gf can't answer the door.
I live in Cincinnati OH area and it seems to be good. My neighbor has full bars on his Nexus one and Tmobile, although I don't think he's the type to know his download speed.
player911 said:
Yea I'm picking up my N1 tonight from the FedEx hub since my gf can't answer the door.
I live in Cincinnati OH area and it seems to be good. My neighbor has full bars on his Nexus one and Tmobile, although I don't think he's the type to know his download speed.
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I live in Cincinnati as well. The west side of town to be more accurate.
I can agree that for the most part 3G/H is pretty common there are still a decent amount of Edge holes in certain areas.
Overall the connection is pretty good.
My issue is the download/upload speeds on the Tmobile 3G/H network in Cincinnati. It doesn't matter where I go; Downtown, Kenwood, Blue Ash, Milford, Springdale, Cheviot, Northern KY... My speeds are pretty subpar
for 3G+. I get on avg .4-.5 mbps down and .3-.4 mbps up no matter where I am at in the city. This includes being within a football field of an H equiped tower.
They have some major work to do in Cincinnati when it comes to upgrading the networks backhaul.
remember you will have to buy a new nexus one to work with tmobile's 3G. the att version only supports ATt's 3G, and the tmobile only supports tmobile's 3G. so you will need a new phone
RogerPodacter said:
remember you will have to buy a new nexus one to work with tmobile's 3G. the att version only supports ATt's 3G, and the tmobile only supports tmobile's 3G. so you will need a new phone
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This is true. They are setup slightly different to handle that carriers specific 3G/H frequencies. Maybe you can sell yours on Craigslist if you decide to and break even.
That is my plan. Anyone with coverage in Texas? espicaly in East Texas? Also when is the 21 mbps supposed to be released? I am just a little hesitant to jump ship.
sheek360 said:
i live in miami florida, their service is horrible; atleast in my neighborhood. i cant get 70k downloads to save my life.
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Thats wonderful. I like up the street (kinda) in Tampa florida and thats the news I was hoping for..
I'm in NYC... which T-Mobile says has the 1900mhz (for the push to get ppl to move their iphones to T-Mobile.)
Sadly, i'm still putt'n around on edge. No luck in dumbo/Brooklyn heights or mid-town.
Anyone having any luck? Maybe I have to change the APN or something (it is already set to epc)
" The carrier notes that 1900MHz HSPA+ is now also available in Seattle, Las Vegas, and the New York metro area"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307571/tmobile-apple-iphone-unlocked-support
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Zurvv said:
I'm in NYC... which T-Mobile says has the 1900mhz (for the push to get ppl to move their iphones to T-Mobile.)
Sadly, i'm still putt'n around on edge. No luck in dumbo/Brooklyn heights or mid-town.
Anyone having any luck? Maybe I have to change the APN or something (it is already set to epc)
" The carrier notes that 1900MHz HSPA+ is now also available in Seattle, Las Vegas, and the New York metro area"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307571/tmobile-apple-iphone-unlocked-support
Jordan
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I'm heading to Seattle in 10 days so I'll report back
I live in el Paso and waiting to get the 1900mhz my focus s is still on edge but I hope we get the 1900mhz by the time the lumia 920 goes on sale so I could hopefully use it with t-mobile. For coverage check here: http://www.airportal.de/
YEAH saw that little 3g+ icon in mill creek today (WA)
I got it in Manhattan last weekend (for a short time) around 57th and 10ave.. got the 4g.. and fired up a speed test. got 7 down and 1 up. I could live with that (or anything better than the yarn and tin cans that is edge speed). So far that is the only place I've seen in Manhattan or downtown Brooklyn.
I live in phoenix Arizona and I occasionally get '4G' sign on my focus S. Never seen 3G sign though. Either 4G or Edge.
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I live in phoenix Arizona and I occasionally get '4G' sign on my focus S. Never seen 3G sign though. Either 4G or Edge.
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the 4G sign is just a different name for what others have as 3G+ or H
we don't have 4G at all, its just a marketing **** up, so you shouldn't see 3G unless you cant get an HSPA signal
I live in LA, where LTE service was introduced a little less than a month ago. Just switched over to Sprint from Verizon, and right now, Sprint's 4G coverage is spotty enough to make me reconsider my decision.
A question, for folks in areas that have had LTE for a while longer, is this the kind of situation where there's likely to be real improvement early on as some initial kinks get worked out, or is it pretty much already as good as it's going to get when sprint rolls it out?
Even though sprint officially announces Lte coverage doesn't mean it's 100% compete! They are constently adding towers.
I live in LA and get lte in my city but next door cities don't have it yet! I believe L.A is only 50% covered right now.
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Same here. I am greatly disappointed with the Sprint service. I always have 3g, but EVDO is pathetically slow... I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Verizon... I wish I would have gone with AT&T. :/
You might want to check out this thread: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1413-network-visionlte-la-metro-market/
There's also a separate thread for OC.
Sprints wimax coverage was actually decent in LA. I live and work in La Verne at the eastern edge of LA County. There is like two LTE towers out here. I'm pretty sure it will get as good if not better than their wimax coverage, if you can wait another year you should
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Sprints wimax coverage was actually decent in LA. I live and work in La Verne at the eastern edge of LA County. There is like two LTE towers out here. I'm pretty sure it will get as good if not better than their wimax coverage, if you can wait another year you should
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Another thing to consider too is that at some point Sprint is also going to deploy LTE on the 800MHz band, which has a longer reach and penetrates buildings better than 1900 (current LTE deployment) or 2600MHz (WiMax and future LTE). That could also have a significant positive impact on reception. They are supposed to begin do that sometime towards the end of the year. However, none of Sprint's current phones support that LTE band unfortunately.
Check out the Sensorly app
Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5zZW5zb3JseS52aWV3ZXIiXQ..
It will help with your decision about service in your area. Where I live EVDO isn't bad so when I'm in an area without LTE there isn't much of an issue. As far as LTE just starting in your area, yes it continues to get better. Verizon's LTE was the most spotty junk you've ever seen when they first started. It takes a while to fill in all the gaps in coverage and I have noticed my phone's 4G icon coming on in more places. The plans for Sprint Network Vision exceed all the other major carriers' LTE networks and will be easily upgraded to LTE Advanced. The problem is it's still in it's early stages. Verizon got a huge jump on LTE while Sprint was messing with WiMAX so it's likely that Verizon will have the LTE advantage for now in most areas.
Yeah, towards the beginning of roll out, signal is.horrible. But don't lose hope. It can, and does, only get better from here :thumbup:
Thinking of jumping ship to TMO, for the simple fact I can get root on all my devices. No contract, unlimited everything. Where I am hoping I don't have any issues with service. I am curious to know what the thoughts of everyone. Pro's Con's of switching/staying and or buying a TMO N4 to use on ATT network..
Thanks
This thread is about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2941837
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This thread is about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2941837
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Thanks for that link...
Read through it. Issue I am having is the wife is having better service in some areas where ATT isn't as good. But I am finding that in some cases, ATT is faster in speed tests. TMO has been solid as far as service where I live..
Sucks, cause I can't find a solid answer for the people who have had the chance to try both carriers and who they like best. ATT has a higher over cost, but is that worth "better" service?
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Thanks for that link...
Read through it. Issue I am having is the wife is having better service in some areas where ATT isn't as good. But I am finding that in some cases, ATT is faster in speed tests. TMO has been solid as far as service where I live..
Sucks, cause I can't find a solid answer for the people who have had the chance to try both carriers and who they like best. ATT has a higher over cost, but is that worth "better" service?
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FWIW, I've noticed that the spots that I mainly have less than stellar service is through stretches of road away from the major cities. For me, I commute / work / live around a major city, as do my friends and family so it isn't a factor for me. As far as AT&T goes, a few of my friends have AT&T, and I will get better service in spots compared to them and vice versa. I would tell you to try out the T-Mobile test drive option if they still have it. You can try an iPhone or I believe a GS5 for seven days to gauge the service for yourself. As far as I can tell though the service, coverage, and speed are roughly the same in and around major cities and highly populated areas.
take the t mobile 7 day challenge and make up your own mind..
If you do the 7 day T-Mobile thing your credit card will get a hold of $700 plus and if you don't bring the iPhone back in 7 days it will get charged. If that's a issue I think you can buy a cheap phone and test it then return? I love T-Mobile. I had Sprint for 14 years. Now a year and a half with T-Mobile.
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take the t mobile 7 day challenge and make up your own mind..
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The only thing with that is they give you an iPhone 5S, which handles T-Mobile's AWS frequencies quite poorly. If possible, I would take that sim and put it into a T-Mobile branded Android device for better service.
AT&T will always have better coverage as they have their HSPA+ on band 5, 850mhz, which goes way farther than band 4, 1700 mhz. AT&T also has nationwide LTE on band 17, 700mhz.
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The only thing with that is they give you an iPhone 5S, which handles T-Mobile's AWS frequencies quite poorly. If possible, I would take that sim and put it into a T-Mobile branded Android device for better service.
AT&T will always have better coverage as they have their HSPA+ on band 5, 850mhz, which goes way farther than band 4, 1700 mhz. AT&T also has nationwide LTE on band 17, 700mhz.
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not everyone needs "nationwide" lte; if you dont travel much, and if tmobile is great in your area, none of that other stuff matters..
Tmobile is fantastic in chicago land, and since I dont travel for a living anymore, I love the savings, the coverage, the speed, everything about it..
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not everyone needs "nationwide" lte; if you dont travel much, and if tmobile is great in your area, none of that other stuff matters..
Tmobile is fantastic in chicago land, and since I dont travel for a living anymore, I love the savings, the coverage, the speed, everything about it..
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I'm from the Chicago land area, and I can tell you they're not good. When traveling, only about 20 miles outside the city, my data went from LTE to 4G to E back and fourth. I was also in Des Plaines, IL and data was nothing but weak 4G and E inside buildings. My AT&T phone was always on LTE. Back at home, same thing. Good coverage outside, terrible signal inside buildings. I don't think I'd complain if the EDGE actually worked lol.
For years they had nothing but EDGE at my house, and now its finally LTE (but weak). So they are improving the signals with additional antennas. I just don't think its enough. Not every market will get their band 12, 700mhz spectrum do to channel 51 interference.
I dont know what you are talking about, everywhere in chicagoland that I have been has been great as far as signals strength
And, if you have issues inside your house, just ask them for the FREE Asus ac68 router, and your inside the house signals will be great too
In another thread a person on here said T-Mobile wasn't good where I live. Coverage is great pretty much everywhere I go so guess maybe that person had a dud phone.
Right now I am able to test 2 Note 4's. One on TMO, and the other on ATT. Some areas have been better for ATT, and vice versa for TMO. Speed tests seem to favor ATT a little. But with download booster on TMO unlimited LTE, I think that might edge a head some. I don't travel a ton, the areas I do travel are usually major highways and major cities.. So once I am able to go to a few more places that will give me a better idea of who I want to stick with.
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I dont know what you are talking about, everywhere in chicagoland that I have been has been great as far as signals strength
And, if you have issues inside your house, just ask them for the FREE Asus ac68 router, and your inside the house signals will be great too
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Have you traveled out to Northwest, IN? They've gotten a lot better, but still are weak. I have no desire to use them. Especially now that I have 20GB of data from AT&T for $100. AT&T is miles a head of T-Mobile in my area.