Hi, I have had a Samsung Galaxy S for about a month, it's my first Android phone and things had been going reasonably well until yesterday. I was messing about with a little drawing app when the phone locked up and a few seconds later the screen went blank. After about another 10 seconds it came back on and was on the unlock screen. I don't think it went through the normal boot animation though.
I started using it again and about 30 seconds later it crashed in the same way but this time I was on the home screen with no third party apps running. I have used it since and it has so far been OK but I am a little wary.
How common is this kind of thing? I wasn't expecting this kind of thing from Android since it is effectively Linux. I mean even Windows Mobile didn't do this to me. Basically I'm just concerned in case there is a hardware fault.
The phone is running the original firmware with only a handful of third party apps, none of which run at startup.
you forgot to mention the model number and the ROM version that you are running.
there are some similar issues reported by other people regarding the band selection bug.
but it's seems to work better with newer firmwares
there's a sticky about it, not sure if your case is exactly the same or not
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/windows-8-boot-time-to-be-drastically-reduced-shown-off-in-vide/
Anyone else find this quite impressive?
according to what I understood, when you shutdown the system, it saves the kernel state to a file on hard disk, which is the same as hibernating windows 7 or putting it to sleep when you have hybrid sleep enabled from the power options
which means, it's still windows, and if you delete that file it will take forever to load.
not hating just my opinion, could be wrong
and im a fan of windows, and using windows 7 not linux
Hmm... I wonder how fast I can he Chrome os to boot if I cheated like this...
Or Ubuntu... nah. Don't think there is much room for improvement for a 3 second cold boot
Very impressive. I'm really torn which way i'm going to go when Win8 comes out. Part of me want to install the first public Beta like i did with Win7, just because i can, but the other part says 'hey, Win7 is fine as it is...leave it alone'.
What i really can't handle right now is the thought of having the Ribbon interface in Windows Explorer. Yes they're adding a ton of functionality to it, but nothing that makes me go 'OMG how have i lived this long without it!'
They are adding some features that do make it more attractive to me though, like having the ability to natively mount iso files. It's one of those things that comes up once in a blue moon, but when you need to do this, and can't, it's a PITA.
husam666 said:
according to what I understood, when you shutdown the system, it saves the kernel state to a file on hard disk, which is the same as hibernating windows 7 or putting it to sleep when you have hybrid sleep enabled from the power options
which means, it's still windows, and if you delete that file it will take forever to load.
not hating just my opinion, could be wrong
and im a fan of windows, and using windows 7 not linux
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I understand how it does it but how is that relevant to the point?
mattykinsx said:
I understand how it does it but how is that relevant to the point?
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well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
husam666 said:
well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
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You're not impressed because you feel it was possible on previous versions?
mattykinsx said:
You're not impressed because you feel it was possible on previous versions?
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yes, that's what im saying
also, look at the hardware now, what it became, how fast processors are...
husam666 said:
yes, that's what im saying
also, look at the hardware now, what it became, how fast processors are...
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I don't understand that logic...
Very rarely are updates to any operating systems (whether its android, ios, windows 7, Mac os) updates that "weren't possible" the the past.
My windows 7 already boots that fast it's a feature of my motherboard called ASROCK InstantBoot and the above comment on how it works was absolutely correct
see here
http://www.asrock.com/feature/instantboot/
mattykinsx said:
I don't understand that logic...
Very rarely are updates to any operating systems (whether its android, ios, windows 7, Mac os) updates that "weren't possible" the the past.
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look at os's now, they are always trying to make them run faster with updates, unlike in the past, it was all about throwing extra packages which will slow down your device
and with faster hardware you will get faster OS
the only reason you are getting upgrades that do not run on older machines is because the software is developing with the hardware these days, not the other way
husam666 said:
well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
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I agree to an extent. It's not a cold boot, at least I assume.
I don't think some people understand what is going on. But whatever; I use standby and boot up within 3 seconds to desktop.
Obviously the system she was running was running a type of fastboot, but HP's version and an SSD, AND Windows 8's improvement to boot.
Nice but already possible so not so amazing.. And I wouldn't really call it a boot, More of a 'wake up'
What would be impressive though however almost usless, is if when shutoff the boot bit is instead copied to the ram and have the PC Give a small amount of energy to the ram to stop the data clearing, then boot.. at well over 1000mbp/s with minimal seek time Plese wait whilst I patent this
Obviously it's a different type of "shut down" with it creating the hibernation file that it does.
But why does that matter?
Yes, maybe the first boot takes "normal windows time" but if every boot after that is that fast then why is it relevant if this could have been done on previous versions?
And I again reiterate...what software update to ANY OS has been "amazing" based on the idea that it wasn't "do-able" in previous versions??
MacaronyMax said:
Nice but already possible so not so amazing.. And I wouldn't really call it a boot, More of a 'wake up'
What would be impressive though however almost usless, is if when shutoff the boot bit is instead copied to the ram and have the PC Give a small amount of energy to the ram to stop the data clearing, then boot.. at well over 1000mbp/s with minimal seek time Plese wait whilst I patent this
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too late apple already did
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Obviously it's a different type of "shut down" with it creating the hibernation file that it does.
But why does that matter?
Yes, maybe the first boot takes "normal windows time" but if every boot after that is that fast then why is it relevant if this could have been done on previous versions?
And I again reiterate...what software update to ANY OS has been "amazing" based on the idea that it wasn't "do-able" in previous versions??
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Every time you have an update to te kernel or other stuff in thay hibernation file, you'll have to deal with a cold boot.
3 second boot doesnt amaze me. I've had that for a while (not on windows I hate windows). 3 second "wake up" is even less suprising.
Soon I will be getting a new phone and I was planning on turning my captivate into a device for just music and gaming device. I was planning on removing the phone and contacts apk.
To do this from a custom rom that somebody has made would I just need to delete the phone and contacts apk from the rom before flashing? Or would it be something more complex that I would have to do to accomplish it?
turning a 500$ phone into a dedicated angry birds device? seems a bit backwards to me.. but to each his own.
I am only making an educated guess, but I imagine that the OS its self is somewhat reliant on those APKs depending on what version of android your running.
For honeycomb and ICS they may be a bit more irrelevant but, for gingerbread and earlier I imagine it is harder to get rid of them completely than you might think, or at least editing the OS in a way that is non phone related.
The reason I am guessing this is because even in the nook version of gingerbread there is still a caller icon and if I remember correctly a few other things I found which seemed to indicate that tablet was geared towards making calls.. despite the tablet itself not having cellular capabilities.. If it were an "easy" fix to completely get rid of the phone side of things.. It would have been good programming standards to do so.
And I would make the assumption that if building a custom rom for a tablet device the creator couldn't get rid of the icons and phone aspects.. it is probably difficult since he was working directly with the source code in an AOSP.
With ICS and honeycomb it will probably be much more friendly towards completely removing the phone aspects since they are designed with tablets in mind.
There are two threads in development that cover this. One, if not both, have all phone functions removed.
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I searched around and found similar threads for other devices, but not for the HPTP, so I apologize if I missed it.
I've been considering flashing my Touchpad with an Android ROM (CM9) but, the more I think about it, I start to question the worth in doing so.
For starters, I have 2 active Android phones - a Captivate that I've rooted & ROM'd to hell & back, and a Galaxy S III that is stock because it's my work phone (I've also had the Fascinate & S II) - so I already have access to the Play market, and all the Touchpad would really offer is a larger viewing area. Plus, while the WebOS market is limited, there are a few apps that seem to be proprietary (TWiT HD, etc).
There's always the fun factor of doing something new, but the flip-side of that coin is the frustration that I know all-too-well from things that stop working with new releases, compatibility issues, etc.
Aside from a larger screen over my Android phones, and maybe some UI customization, is there much of a benefit to flashing CM9 or another ROM over WebOS?
Has anyone actually found that they prefer the latter?
Thanks for any insight!
there is no harm in doing it just for fun. it wont remove webos. when you boot up you still have the option of booting into webos. and if you dont like android on it, you can always revert everything back to how it was originally and just have webos.
i personally loved webos and the superior multitasking, but over time caved in and now mostly use android 99% of the time. especially after hp dropped all support of their previous webos devices with open webos. that really turned me off.
once you flash ics on it youll never ever ever ever boot into webos again. theres just no reason to ever again. webos is cool if you want to just browse the web and maybe look at pictures and watch movies. but not really useful for anything else.
Thanks, y'all
Sounds like you already might be convinced, but as nice as WebOS is (I became a big fan), I've only booted into it when having trouble. Try the latest CM nightly. The UI on CM9/10 is nice, but the apps you can get just blow away WebOS.
my question is, is there any reason not to? I mean you don't lose WebOS if you dual boot it, so you gain android and if all else fails you, you can still use webos
Background (short version): I finally replaced the charging port and my 2012 Nexus 7 is back up and running... Sort of... Navigation is impossible and I've tried every non-rooted method I can find, to clear memory and storage. It's slightly improved now that it's stripped down, but still hardly functional. I'm aware there have historically been, countless ways to root then flash custom roms to help with this. Most roms are probably a bit more than what I need and the developer support for each is hit or miss, for such a dated device.
My question: What do you recommend I do (linked tutorial preferred) for a straight forward process to get this tablet running, so that I can stream my favorite video services and play a couple of simple games? I'll be using the tablet for light browsing too, but that's about it. Right now, I can't even navigate through the Settings menu without dedicating 30+ minutes. I'm prepared to factory reset, root and flash, but I don't want to go down the wrong rabbit home.
Time to scrap it. You'll keep wasting time trying to make it usable, and it will continue being a bad experience.
TheMystic said:
Time to scrap it. You'll keep wasting time trying to make it usable, and it will continue being a bad experience.
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Oof... I mean sure, but I'd like to use it instead and there's no reason it shouldn't be capable of running a couple video streaming apps
kevinbakon said:
there's no reason it shouldn't be capable of running a couple video streaming apps
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There is. It is called Planned Obsolescence. Not your fault or device's fault.
There will be no support for devices or Android versions that are older than a certain age/ version.
TheMystic said:
There is. It is called Planned Obsolescence. Not your fault or device's fault.
There will be no support for devices or Android versions that are older than a certain age/ version.
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