http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/windows-8-boot-time-to-be-drastically-reduced-shown-off-in-vide/
Anyone else find this quite impressive?
according to what I understood, when you shutdown the system, it saves the kernel state to a file on hard disk, which is the same as hibernating windows 7 or putting it to sleep when you have hybrid sleep enabled from the power options
which means, it's still windows, and if you delete that file it will take forever to load.
not hating just my opinion, could be wrong
and im a fan of windows, and using windows 7 not linux
Hmm... I wonder how fast I can he Chrome os to boot if I cheated like this...
Or Ubuntu... nah. Don't think there is much room for improvement for a 3 second cold boot
Very impressive. I'm really torn which way i'm going to go when Win8 comes out. Part of me want to install the first public Beta like i did with Win7, just because i can, but the other part says 'hey, Win7 is fine as it is...leave it alone'.
What i really can't handle right now is the thought of having the Ribbon interface in Windows Explorer. Yes they're adding a ton of functionality to it, but nothing that makes me go 'OMG how have i lived this long without it!'
They are adding some features that do make it more attractive to me though, like having the ability to natively mount iso files. It's one of those things that comes up once in a blue moon, but when you need to do this, and can't, it's a PITA.
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according to what I understood, when you shutdown the system, it saves the kernel state to a file on hard disk, which is the same as hibernating windows 7 or putting it to sleep when you have hybrid sleep enabled from the power options
which means, it's still windows, and if you delete that file it will take forever to load.
not hating just my opinion, could be wrong
and im a fan of windows, and using windows 7 not linux
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I understand how it does it but how is that relevant to the point?
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I understand how it does it but how is that relevant to the point?
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well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
husam666 said:
well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
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You're not impressed because you feel it was possible on previous versions?
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You're not impressed because you feel it was possible on previous versions?
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yes, that's what im saying
also, look at the hardware now, what it became, how fast processors are...
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yes, that's what im saying
also, look at the hardware now, what it became, how fast processors are...
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I don't understand that logic...
Very rarely are updates to any operating systems (whether its android, ios, windows 7, Mac os) updates that "weren't possible" the the past.
My windows 7 already boots that fast it's a feature of my motherboard called ASROCK InstantBoot and the above comment on how it works was absolutely correct
see here
http://www.asrock.com/feature/instantboot/
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I don't understand that logic...
Very rarely are updates to any operating systems (whether its android, ios, windows 7, Mac os) updates that "weren't possible" the the past.
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look at os's now, they are always trying to make them run faster with updates, unlike in the past, it was all about throwing extra packages which will slow down your device
and with faster hardware you will get faster OS
the only reason you are getting upgrades that do not run on older machines is because the software is developing with the hardware these days, not the other way
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well what i mean is with some modifications, windows 7 can do the same thing
im not really impressed
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I agree to an extent. It's not a cold boot, at least I assume.
I don't think some people understand what is going on. But whatever; I use standby and boot up within 3 seconds to desktop.
Obviously the system she was running was running a type of fastboot, but HP's version and an SSD, AND Windows 8's improvement to boot.
Nice but already possible so not so amazing.. And I wouldn't really call it a boot, More of a 'wake up'
What would be impressive though however almost usless, is if when shutoff the boot bit is instead copied to the ram and have the PC Give a small amount of energy to the ram to stop the data clearing, then boot.. at well over 1000mbp/s with minimal seek time Plese wait whilst I patent this
Obviously it's a different type of "shut down" with it creating the hibernation file that it does.
But why does that matter?
Yes, maybe the first boot takes "normal windows time" but if every boot after that is that fast then why is it relevant if this could have been done on previous versions?
And I again reiterate...what software update to ANY OS has been "amazing" based on the idea that it wasn't "do-able" in previous versions??
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Nice but already possible so not so amazing.. And I wouldn't really call it a boot, More of a 'wake up'
What would be impressive though however almost usless, is if when shutoff the boot bit is instead copied to the ram and have the PC Give a small amount of energy to the ram to stop the data clearing, then boot.. at well over 1000mbp/s with minimal seek time Plese wait whilst I patent this
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too late apple already did
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Obviously it's a different type of "shut down" with it creating the hibernation file that it does.
But why does that matter?
Yes, maybe the first boot takes "normal windows time" but if every boot after that is that fast then why is it relevant if this could have been done on previous versions?
And I again reiterate...what software update to ANY OS has been "amazing" based on the idea that it wasn't "do-able" in previous versions??
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Every time you have an update to te kernel or other stuff in thay hibernation file, you'll have to deal with a cold boot.
3 second boot doesnt amaze me. I've had that for a while (not on windows I hate windows). 3 second "wake up" is even less suprising.
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Hey all,
Sorry if i sound dumb, but i can't quite figure out what these lag fixes do, or if i should try to put one on my device. I've tried to read the threads pertaining to the lag fixes but all the ext2 ext4 stuff confuses me haha. In my mind i picture it fixing the delay on the 4 buttons (menu, home, back, search).
If anyone could break it down for me i'd very much appreciate it
Thanks
One of things it does is makes those button 2-3x faster. Also i think it makes the general experience of the phone a lot more smoother from what i have noticed.
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One of things it does is makes those button 2-3x faster. Also i think it makes the general experience of the phone a lot more smoother from what i have noticed.
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Ahh i guess i shoulda followed my gut, or just tired it haha. Thanks for the heads up, i think i'm gonna try it right now
Ok so i just ran the one click lag fix. I can't say i notice a difference in pressing the bottom buttons but to make myself feel better i downloaded that quadrant thing, ran it and it gave me a score of 2264. Now i have no idea what that proves but at least i don't feel bad now about applying the lag fix lol
Sometimes the phone seems to lag or hesitate at times if you press a button, open an application, etc. These are the "lags" the fixes are addressing. It's literally taking the phone longer than it could to read and write files on the device.
The lag fixes move your system files into a different file system (sort of like a virtual drive on PC's, all done in software.) Samsung uses a file system called rfs, which is running very slowly on these phones. Lag fixes use different file systems from Linux, such as ext2 or ext4, which perform better.
The risk in using a lag fix (albeit small) is that your data might become corrupted if you don't shut down your phone properly; for example, say if you pulled the battery while the phone is running.
I hope that helps you understand what they do better.
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Sometimes the phone seems to lag or hesitate at times if you press a button, open an application, etc. These are the "lags" the fixes are addressing. It's literally taking the phone longer than it could to read and write files on the device.
The lag fixes move your system files into a different file system (sort of like a virtual drive on PC's, all done in software.) Samsung uses a file system called rfs, which is running very slowly on these phones. Lag fixes use different file systems from Linux, such as ext2 or ext4, which perform better.
The risk in using a lag fix (albeit small) is that your data might become corrupted if you don't shut down your phone properly; for example, say if you pulled the battery while the phone is running.
I hope that helps you understand what they do better.
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This was a perfect explanation. I saw someone who was wanting to make a new guide, i suggest you send that exact post to him. If i can understand it anyone can haha.
This does raise some questions now though,
1. I know it can now be corrupted but is this on the internal or external sd card? 2. Once corrupt what exactly is stored in this location (if i remember right i had to chose a size to apply this lag fix to)?
3. Is this a corruption like i can just reflash a rom and everything is back to stock, or is that piece completely broken?
Thanks again =)
Sorry guys I won't retype everything twice now. Worked all the day to get this pushed out. Now I am kinda tired! So this is just a quick first post. I will update it later. The first SuperFroyo Release is available now!
As promised by you in the "Good News..."-Thread -< I need testers now!
Here is the link + download + instructions for the first release of SuperFroyo for X1:
Android SuperFroyo
reserved for my mama and papa...naaaah future updates!!
IM downloading it. I will report back as soon as posible.
THANKS. IM very excited
Good!!
I am waiting for about 4hours lol
I want to work camera this version
btw thxxxxx
P.s: Pardon my English TT
I am gonna Try It Tonight...... Thanks .. Neo.. And All Devlopers........ Cheers
Its faster than any previous version of android on X1 and more responsive.
its seems very stable.
When i enter SupSetup it crashes. I guess that is CyogenMod setup but it doesnt work.
First haret boot is long. But then its very fast. After i hit haret it enters android very fast.
Scrolling in file manager and menu gerneraly is faster. And phone wakes up very fast. Before i had to wait 0,5 second or 1 second to unlock phone...now its instantly up. Hope you understand me.
3d seems better. I dont know if 3dHW accelleration is enabled. Carom3d was running very slow on tremers21/8 like 1 frame per two second. And now with this its running like 3 frames per second. Improvement but 3d games are still unplayable.
Next problem its battery status. When im charging its showing CHARGING for few seconds then its instantly showing 100% wich is not true. Then when i unplug cable its showin 50% and droping to 40% like 1% every 2 seconds. I was like WTF. Its not showing the right value.
Sliding beetween screens seems a bit laggy.
Before on 21/8 tremers when someone calls me i have to wait 3-4 seconds before i could se who is calling. Now on this version its very fast.
On XPERIA X1 generaly the ONE button on top is used for turning screen on and of, and for turning phone off. In your android version that funcion you assined to bottom right button (Drop/Cancel Call Button).
even when i hold that button i cant enter POWER OFF button becouse it tuns off display just after showing POWEROFF option.
i will try to test battery life time.
Kernel panic - not syncing, no init found.
What is wrong, I did everything according to instructions (I think )
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Its faster than any previous version of android on X1 and more responsive.
its seems very stable.
When i enter SupSetup it crashes. I guess that is CyogenMod setup but it doesnt work.
First haret boot is long. But then its very fast. After i hit haret it enters android very fast.
Scrolling in file manager and menu gerneraly is faster. And phone wakes up very fast. Before i had to wait 0,5 second or 1 second to unlock phone...now its instantly up. Hope you understand me.
3d seems better. I dont know if 3dHW accelleration is enabled. Carom3d was running very slow on tremers21/8 like 1 frame per two second. And now with this its running like 3 frames per second. Improvement but 3d games are still unplayable.
Next problem its battery status. When im charging its showing CHARGING for few seconds then its instantly showing 100% wich is not true. Then when i unplug cable its showin 50% and droping to 40% like 1% every 2 seconds. I was like WTF. Its not showing the right value.
Sliding beetween screens seems a bit laggy.
Before on 21/8 tremers when someone calls me i have to wait 3-4 seconds before i could se who is calling. Now on this version its very fast.
On XPERIA X1 generaly the ONE button on top is used for turning screen on and of, and for turning phone off. I your android version that funcion you assined to bottom right buttom (Drop/Cancel Call Button).
even when i hold that button i cant enter POWER OFF button becouse it tuns off display just after showing POWEROFF option.
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As I wrote on my site SupSetup is not available atm. I removed apk! For me this build runs amazing compared to my HTC Diamond (also SuperFroyo so I have the direct comparation). It's really incredible also for me how fast the display wakes up! My Diamond needs sometimes up to 3secs or doesn't even wake up...
I also encountered the prob with powering off. But you maqy remap the keys. Another solution is to press AND hold down poweroff-button and then touch the display with left hand for reboot/poweroff. This works for me.
Nevertheles I am really confused how good it works. I also tested Neocore by pushing it! It gave me 18FP/s without overclocking. Don't know it exactly but how much do you get on Trem's build?
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Kernel panic - not syncing, no init found.
What is wrong, I did everything according to instructions (I think )
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I know you propably followed everything but this is what i did.
Formated SDcard. Created 3.650 (not exactly) Fat32 partition and 350 Ext2 partition.
Copied everything on Fat32 partition with haret.exe been on root. From WM6.5 first i launched install.exe from npkinstall. After reboot i started haret.exe from root of SDcard.
That is all.
jkoljo said:
Kernel panic - not syncing, no init found.
What is wrong, I did everything according to instructions (I think )
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You think Please try to start from scratch. Seems like you made a mistake somewhere. In most cases you didn't partition correctly. Try it out a few times. It will work cause this build for X1 is noob-friendly if you have partitioned correctly! 3 Steps:
* Partitioning
* Running install.exe within npkinstall-folder
* Running haret.exe from root
Maybe you can have a look at documentation-folder. It contains some jpegs to help you out...
And please how do i change the black notification bar to original white???
Yeah, thanks for help Neopeek and denyboy, I noticed that as I had followed the partition sizes in the youtube video, I had ended up with 580 meg ext2. I will format again to 350 meg ext2
We will see, I will post the results!
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And please how do i change the black notification bar to original white???
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You can change it in settings. Move to spareparts blablabla. Somewhere you will find Notification colors. Adjust them and then reboot Android!
vatoloco said:
You can change it in settings. Move to spareparts blablabla. Somewhere you will find Notification colors. Adjust them and then reboot Android!
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Thanks. By the way. Mass Storage dont work. That is nothing new.
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Yeah, thanks for help Neopeek and denyboy, I noticed that as I had followed the partition sizes in the youtube video, I had ended up with 580 meg ext2. I will format again to 350 meg ext2
We will see, I will post the results!
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Dont follow that complex tutorial. Just boot ubuntu or any other gnu/linux go to Gparted and delete all partitions then create new FAT32 and new Ext2 with adeqate size. That all.
Or use any other software for partitioning for Windows or GNU/Linux
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Thanks. By the way. Mass Storage dont work. That is nothing new.
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The build is preconfigured for ADB in froyo.user.conf. I thought some of you guys may help in logging via ADB to fix some bugs and providing logs via adb / ddms
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The build is preconfigured for ADB in froyo.user.conf. I thought some of you guys may help in logging via ADB to fix some bugs and providing logs via adb / ddms
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I hope someone will help you finish this but im not expert. I guess tremere could assist you he did great work. You two combined should acomplish great things when it comes to Android on Xperia.
Ok, now it works! The Android just did not like my 580 meg ext2 partition
And phew, it is FAST!
The battery driver goes crazy sometimes.
By the way, you mentioned about overclocking in your post in the other forum, is it possible?
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You can change it in settings. Move to spareparts blablabla. Somewhere you will find Notification colors. Adjust them and then reboot Android!
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original notification bar has a textures. When i select simple colors like this it looks owfull. Any way to restore the default white one.
how is the battery life?
Hi guys, as you can see from my sig I owned a few HTC in these years and I moved on from WM to Android about 2 years ago.
I'm writing this post as a request of suggestion from you as I don't have any experience with how Android behave on Tytn II and it's not for me but for my dad..!
He's been using his Tytn II for quite some time so far and I wanted to know if you would suggest me to flash for him Android on his device.
Please before answering considere that it's not for me, it's for a man of a certain age (around 60) that doesn't want any complication and doesn't have any time to dedicate to solve any issue that my come from the process.
So if this would bring him an increase of its device performance and usability I would definetely go for it, but don't want to hear him complaining all the time bout me having ruined his phone because of FC or random reboots or whatever ...
Is there any ROM free of issues and stable enough?!
I enjoy changing kernels, roms and radios of my devices, but you got what I meant before right? Once again: it's not for me..!
Thanks everybody in advance for your suggestions
First of all, before recommending anything.
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
As far as if problems will arise, these things will happens (IE: FC, etc...) Depending on how he use it too. But it can be control to the minimum.
From my experience all ROMs are pretty much the same as far a being stable. It will depends on features and a few other things.
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I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
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Well..he use his Tytn II as he would have used any "old style phone". No app or whatsoever installed a part from a navigator (which I installed..) ....and once that something was not working properly he didn't anything for about 6 months till I discovered it, PIM backupped everything and made a hard reset to get it back to its functionality...so I'd say: yeah if he need to he will learn, but he won't search by himself any workaround..
And the main problem is that we don't live anymore together, I'm currently at them just till Feb and then I'll b back to Athens where I live...so I won't be here to help him out..!
That said, he's quite tech friendly, he's on his PC all day long and part of his job is to build different sites for various committents...
But from your words I can understand it need far more attentions than I think my dad would like to give to this thing..
Best way is to ask him.
my 2 cents
Well, as far as I can see,
my TyTn II with android is faster, more reliable and overall most usable.
The touch screen feels more like a capacitive touchscreen rather than a resistive one (wich is actually what the TyTN has).
Regarding the "age" of your father, I think it's not a problem.
mine has the same age of yours and he's arguing with Samsung Bada Os every day...so I showed him how "easy" is Android regarding Bada and he was amazed.
the counterpart is that, if he want to move to Android, you have to set up the whole thing in every little piece:
Android version, htc overclock, hiding "dangerous" icons from the drawer (such as the root app ) so he can't cause any "damage" by hitting something wrong.
I'm currently running under Froyo on mine, and it's pretty faster as I said BUT...
sometimes it FC (well, I'm like an addicted to customisations, so it's pretty normal... xD), it freezes for a while, Launcher Pro will FC (I personally hate ADW), my battery drains fast (but again, is because I put all kind of custom on it...IE: live wallpapers, custom lockscreen etc etc)
IMO if you go to a pretty simple version (such as 1.6 or alike) it won't have any kind of problems...
I give you a tip:
google for simosoft project...
he developped an Android "emulator"... install it on his device and see his reactions... from there you can do everything: phone calls, text messaging, emailing (because it basically uses the WinMo programs ) and it's not a flashing rom, it's just a installable .cab file.
try and see
I think this is the best thing you can do to avoid any kind of "stress"...
otherwise, for instance, you can make a huge backup, flash a rom, make him try
and then, if in few days/weeks he can't go on with Android (wich IMO is impossible) you can revert it back to the useless WinMo
let me know :-D
Thanks for all the advices..I'll think about it & I'll let you know
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I'd suggest leaving him with a good stable WM ROM. There are still newer ones but I my favorite was an old one by shifu. You might look for a WM rom that has not a lot of extras, good stability, and updated versions of any "aftermarket" apps.
Or, give him a haret install. If he likes it but complains that it is too slow, you can get more speed by installing nand. But don't do that until you know he likes it.
I am still rocking a Samsung galaxy note 2. It isn't as fast as the oneplus 3t(obviously) but it seems to fair rather well. When it comes to simple operations.
What I mean is the oneplus 3t is benchmarking at 10-15x the performance, yet things like boot time are only 75% faster. Or 4x. I would imagine a boot time of around 10 seconds. Not 30 etc...
Anyone know what areas are phones bottlenecking at these days?
Note: I am running cm13 6.0.1 which is comparable to oxygen os currently on the oneplus 3t
A lof of different things for different usage patterns.
Main bottleneck I think today is storage. Processors are beyond what a daily user needs. GPU might be the culprit for gaming.
Booting times might be influenced also by encryption. Let's say a phone which doesnt have it can boot a lot faster, but it's less safe and so on.
Doing the math. I have a feeling CPU is the bottleneck for boot times.
I can't find a reason to encrypt my whole device. Could you explain why it isn't safe?
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Doing the math. I have a feeling CPU is the bottleneck for boot times.
I can't find a reason to encrypt my whole device. Could you explain why it isn't safe?
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Coding and bugs might be a huge one. One poorly coded app or chunk of the OS can kill things for everything else, create wakelocks that aren't granted, etc. I doubt if encryption hurts any gizmo with the hardware support to handle it. File Systems, the hardware & software are huge bottlenecks. F2FS is very fast at certain things (writes) , but other filesystems do reads better. A Snapdragon 821 is plenty of power for pretty much anything. (unless you're a benchmark freak since benchmarks are designed to bring things to their knees). Really bad social networking apps like FB & TW & Inst (well, all of them) are terrible for everything (unless you like them and are willing to get 4000 notifications/s from make believe friends). Having 7 simultaneous power-saving apps running can cause slowdowns. Big ugly damned widgets that take up 5 launcher screens are problematic.
Mostly however, I feel that bottles and bottle caps are the largest creators of bottlenecks. (I hope I didn't actually write that). ;
I get that too many apps slow it down. I have minimized most my apps. And agree on social media issues. Etc... I'm pretty well versed on what to keep uninstalled etc... My question more so is how does a phone that is 10-15x faster still only boots about twice as fast?
Actually a great example is this video. Sure the apps load faster. And these aren't 100% fair comparisons. But I mean boot time hasn't improved. https://youtu.be/0ya8cdAfh8A
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I get that too many apps slow it down. I have minimized most my apps. And agree on social media issues. Etc... I'm pretty well versed on what to keep uninstalled etc... My question more so is how does a phone that is 10-15x faster still only boots about twice as fast?
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It's really a good question. One thing I've noticed over successive versions of Android is how many background apps are started during boot. By the time boot is just completed , there are about 160 apps running , ~90% of them that I can't intuit any reason for having started, and those apps all require similar resources.
I've got a loaded up old 2013 moto x running 4.4.2 that boots in about 10 seconds, a galaxy alpha with about 1/10th the power of the OP3t that boots 4 times as fast, and the 3t that takes about a minute to get to a usable screen. When I get there, (I'm rooted), I'm watching tons of notifications from apps that I don't use at all, ever, that are shooting off for about another minute. I'm beginning to think that the newer the OS , the more security of any sort from SELinux to encryption, the more gratuitous apps that're kicked off, the longer we wait.
Even my first or second boot prior to any software or additions by me, were pretty slow for such an amazing hunk of nice components. Sometime's I'm completely baffled by the way apps like Play Store work, and how many resources and wakelocks appear to be involved and they're always running.
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Actually a great example is this video. Sure the apps load faster. And these aren't 100% fair comparisons. But I mean boot time hasn't improved. https://youtu.be/0ya8cdAfh8A
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Good video ! . And on top of the obvious amount of time to see a booted phone, those phones are all really busy in the background, to the point of not being able to be useful for another minute after you see it looks booted. I love that the note 7 took longer than the rest. Thanks for posting that.
It's when pure a AOSP ROM is well optimised, it will boot insanely quick without Gapps etc. But it's like most os from a cold boot there are many more boot checks, rechecks and processes that need to happen. This is a useful website https://community.nxp.com/docs/DOC-102546
Background (short version): I finally replaced the charging port and my 2012 Nexus 7 is back up and running... Sort of... Navigation is impossible and I've tried every non-rooted method I can find, to clear memory and storage. It's slightly improved now that it's stripped down, but still hardly functional. I'm aware there have historically been, countless ways to root then flash custom roms to help with this. Most roms are probably a bit more than what I need and the developer support for each is hit or miss, for such a dated device.
My question: What do you recommend I do (linked tutorial preferred) for a straight forward process to get this tablet running, so that I can stream my favorite video services and play a couple of simple games? I'll be using the tablet for light browsing too, but that's about it. Right now, I can't even navigate through the Settings menu without dedicating 30+ minutes. I'm prepared to factory reset, root and flash, but I don't want to go down the wrong rabbit home.
Time to scrap it. You'll keep wasting time trying to make it usable, and it will continue being a bad experience.
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Time to scrap it. You'll keep wasting time trying to make it usable, and it will continue being a bad experience.
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Oof... I mean sure, but I'd like to use it instead and there's no reason it shouldn't be capable of running a couple video streaming apps
kevinbakon said:
there's no reason it shouldn't be capable of running a couple video streaming apps
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There is. It is called Planned Obsolescence. Not your fault or device's fault.
There will be no support for devices or Android versions that are older than a certain age/ version.
TheMystic said:
There is. It is called Planned Obsolescence. Not your fault or device's fault.
There will be no support for devices or Android versions that are older than a certain age/ version.
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