Hey all,
Sorry if i sound dumb, but i can't quite figure out what these lag fixes do, or if i should try to put one on my device. I've tried to read the threads pertaining to the lag fixes but all the ext2 ext4 stuff confuses me haha. In my mind i picture it fixing the delay on the 4 buttons (menu, home, back, search).
If anyone could break it down for me i'd very much appreciate it
Thanks
One of things it does is makes those button 2-3x faster. Also i think it makes the general experience of the phone a lot more smoother from what i have noticed.
ViniD said:
One of things it does is makes those button 2-3x faster. Also i think it makes the general experience of the phone a lot more smoother from what i have noticed.
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Ahh i guess i shoulda followed my gut, or just tired it haha. Thanks for the heads up, i think i'm gonna try it right now
Ok so i just ran the one click lag fix. I can't say i notice a difference in pressing the bottom buttons but to make myself feel better i downloaded that quadrant thing, ran it and it gave me a score of 2264. Now i have no idea what that proves but at least i don't feel bad now about applying the lag fix lol
Sometimes the phone seems to lag or hesitate at times if you press a button, open an application, etc. These are the "lags" the fixes are addressing. It's literally taking the phone longer than it could to read and write files on the device.
The lag fixes move your system files into a different file system (sort of like a virtual drive on PC's, all done in software.) Samsung uses a file system called rfs, which is running very slowly on these phones. Lag fixes use different file systems from Linux, such as ext2 or ext4, which perform better.
The risk in using a lag fix (albeit small) is that your data might become corrupted if you don't shut down your phone properly; for example, say if you pulled the battery while the phone is running.
I hope that helps you understand what they do better.
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ag4vr said:
Sometimes the phone seems to lag or hesitate at times if you press a button, open an application, etc. These are the "lags" the fixes are addressing. It's literally taking the phone longer than it could to read and write files on the device.
The lag fixes move your system files into a different file system (sort of like a virtual drive on PC's, all done in software.) Samsung uses a file system called rfs, which is running very slowly on these phones. Lag fixes use different file systems from Linux, such as ext2 or ext4, which perform better.
The risk in using a lag fix (albeit small) is that your data might become corrupted if you don't shut down your phone properly; for example, say if you pulled the battery while the phone is running.
I hope that helps you understand what they do better.
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This was a perfect explanation. I saw someone who was wanting to make a new guide, i suggest you send that exact post to him. If i can understand it anyone can haha.
This does raise some questions now though,
1. I know it can now be corrupted but is this on the internal or external sd card? 2. Once corrupt what exactly is stored in this location (if i remember right i had to chose a size to apply this lag fix to)?
3. Is this a corruption like i can just reflash a rom and everything is back to stock, or is that piece completely broken?
Thanks again =)
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Hello there,
I've tried Googling and searching these threads, and I can't seem to find anyone else with the same problems as me, so if anyone can help me I'd be really grateful!
Basically, I've had a rooted G1 for about 6 months now, started off using JesusFreke, went on to CM and now I'm running the latest ROM with an 8 gig class 6 SD card. Anyway, everything runs smoothly except for a few niggly things. As far as I can remember I've always had most of these problems since rooting, and now they're worse than ever and starting to grate. I don't think it's my particular handset, as this is the second G1 I've had - although as I said, I haven't read of these problems with other people, so I don't really know. The problems in question are:
1. Email isn't very 'pushy' anymore - when I first got my G1, and for a while after first rooting, I was amazed at the push Gmail...I loved it, and it often worked faster than my computer email client could retrieve emails with its 5-minute interval. However, now my G1 seemingly only downloads emails when it can be bothered, and more often than not I'll do a manual refresh to find about 6 emails waiting for me. It's somewhat annoying really.
2. This is another major thing: Locale just won't recognise where it is anymore. I'll go into Locale for a few seconds, it'll snap on to 'home' or 'work', I'll come out and after about five minutes, it'll jump straight onto the default settings again. I'll do this again, and it happens again, etc. My phone knows where it is, as the maps work perfectly, and I'll even tried leaving GPS on all day, but to no avail. This is a major annoying niggle, and it seems to get better/worse with different updates. Has anyone experienced this? At the moment, Locale is virtually unusable.
3. Since I'm asking for help, the other little niggle is that to add shortcuts to my desktop takes an age...I'll do the longpress, click 'shortcut'...and then wait. And wait. As far as I can remember my phone's always done this (even the old one), but if anyone knows what I'm doing wrong it'd be really good.
In fact, if anyone can help me with any of the problems I've described I'd be really happy...the email and Locale thing are starting to become a big nuisance, and I'm starting to think about changing my handset over it, despite my love of Android, the G1 and the excellent CM updates that Cyanogen tirelessly sends out.
Thanks so much in advance,
Mark
I've never had any of those issues the gmail issue is the only one that woulg get me... what rom did you go with this time around?
Hi, I've just got the standard CyanognMod ROM with the latest 4.2.9.1
I have the same Gmail problem.
No idea how to fix it.
I'm going to say it's probably two things together:
1. Low memory. Having had your G1 for a while, you've installed lots of apps. Each app uses RAM. Low RAM makes everything sluggish and buggy. Uninstall anything you don't use regularly. Doing a full wipe and reflash of the htc update image, and then the latest cyanogenmod, will give you a blazing fast phone again, with everything working beautifully (but you'll have lost ALL your installed apps, saved sms, settings, etc.).
2. Task-killing app. You probably use Taskiller, Close Everything, or something like that. It is killing Gmail so it doesn't refresh, killing locale's location service so it doesn't know where it is, etc. Make sure you exclude ANYTHING that runs in the background constantly to work. Basically, anything that does something automatically, or generates a notification, or anything. Email, gmail, messaging, etc.
Not cool
You can't say niggly, only we can say niggly.
gmail push
there is a way to 'Set download frequency' by default.
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You can't say niggly, only we can say niggly.
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'Niggly' is a word of Scandinavian origin which in this context essentially means 'irritating'. It is in no way related to similarly spelt offensive words, which is what I think you're getting at.
Anyway, many thanks to all those who posted help, I deleted a load of programs and it helped greatly. I had no idea that having too many apps, even in an apps2sd setup, would impact performance that much.
Still can't get Locale to work properly though. I'll delete a few more apps and see if that helps.
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'Niggly' is a word of Scandinavian origin which in this context essentially means 'irritating'. It is in no way related to similarly spelt offensive words, which is what I think you're getting at.
Anyway, many thanks to all those who posted help, I deleted a load of programs and it helped greatly. I had no idea that having too many apps, even in an apps2sd setup, would impact performance that much.
Still can't get Locale to work properly though. I'll delete a few more apps and see if that helps.
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I think he is quoting "Something Something Something Darkside" It is the new Family Guy movie.
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I think he is quoting "Something Something Something Darkside" It is the new Family Guy movie.
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+10 pts for being spot on.
I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
i tried like 6 or 7 Froyo releases the last month
for me the best 2 are:
Froyo Redux (CM 6)
SpeedTeam Froyo
in Speedteam: i got a problem with the market. downloading stopped working after a day of use with it. besides that, its really nice and fast!
biffmod it had FC's every 10 seconds with the "ime_input" blabla, fu**ed me off, so i deinstalled. couldn't really test it.
froyo redux: it begins lagging after a while of use, but i used it the most until now! like for a week or so! it reacts fast when getting a call, looks nice (install launcherpro for more speed in launcher/homescreen) menu's go really fast and it loads really fast too! For me the best Froyo by now!
chromatic : the style was to dark
SuperFast/stupid Fast: after install i had many FC's -> Deinstalled
Super-F : works fine the most but has problems with some files and cant play mp3 files !! WTF ??
Hope i could help u a little
Dyonas said:
I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
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Try: Htcclay Superfly d/s v1.1 - Froyo 2.2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/07/rom-htcclay-superfly-tcby-v1-1-for-dream-g1/
Absolutely love this one. Market slow on this one but that seems to be on all of the 2.2's.
Thanks for the replies I've given Chromatic a try while I waited for replies and it seems to be the most reliable for 3G that I'd tried to that point. I switched out to Cannon's Eclair as well and that seemed to be good too. Chromatic seemed a little sluggish but no more than other FroYo ROMs. The main sluggish thing that I can't stand is text entry using the virtual keyboard. That seems to be a constant across all FroYo ROMs so far.
tranceonline, you saved me a lot of flashing with that summary so yes you did help I'm going to have a look at FroYo Redux in a little while.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've noticed but I usually use the keyboard anyway since it's a bit faster for me. You could download couple of the other on screen keyboards out there and see if it's the same.Try this one: attached Handcent. If it works on Froyo. Noticed a screen flicker on CM 6.0.0 though. Might just be my phone.?
I've learned a couple of things today, playing again.
Main reason I rooted/flashed was for apps2sd. Don't put upfront tasks, ie: Homescreen launchers, on-going service apps, mail, messaging, etc. on the SD, leave them on internal memory.
I was putting everything on the SD and it took forever to reload home screen coming out of an app and returning home. Don't ask about rebooting. It took forever to load the widgets and get up and running. Got to thinking about the slower speed of the SD versus the phone. So after installing approx 150 apps I said screw it, wiped everything, and reformatted the card.
Dropped swap to 32MB, ext2 512, & fat32.
Now I'm being careful what gets put to the card. Homescreen now boots and loads much better from the phone. Was reading about partitioning and in some cases larger swap slows up the phone considerably so they say. Why the 1 ROM I did suggested 96MB for swap is beyond me. Just don't run a "bunch" of apps at the same time and you won't need much swap. Some have suggested eliminating it altogether. Don't know bout that.
Much snappier performance now. Boots up fast and 3G is no problem.
Might hold off loading apps and try that Froyo Redux 1st. Haven't seen that one.
Later. Learn by doing
I've been reading all over these forums about a lagfix that is available, but I can't figure out why I need it. My Captivate seems incredibly fast in everything it does, including reading files off of very slow cards. Is there a way I can see this supposed lag manifest itself?
Run a crapload of apps on the phone. and then see if it comes up. You can even try to install more than 50 apps and see if it comes up. Not sure why you would wanna do this though
Tried that. I started up 22 different apps, one of which was Google Earth, then opened up a HD video to play. Not so much as a hiccup. And I only have a class 2 SD card.
I guess I should be glad that I have no discernible lag to fix.
There are a couple situations I have seen like adding things to the home screen and wakeup lag. Other than that the problem sneaks up during quadrant benchmarks causing the phone to hang really bad. The lag fix works but isn't gonna make it faster in every day situations other than the one or two places it acts up.
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Ohh I got it! Try to install more than 5 small apps at a time from the market. It always just hangs while they get installed
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
i barely noticed it too.. but I installed lagfix anyway lol .. as you keep using your phone more.. after you use the fix.. and revert back.. you somewhat notice differences in speed.. maybe it's just all in my head though
Hi,
When i download any app from the market, it finishs downloading smothly, but after that when the application is being installed, it teribbly slows down and nearly the phone is not responding until the app finish installing, it takes around 5 - 7 seconds.
I have a stock 2.1 JPJG8 rooted with Autokiller, is any one experincing the same? will a lagfix resolve it?
I'm thinking about applying a lagfix (voodoo) but the phone is generally fast for me and wants to wait for froyo, but if it will fix this, then i might apply it sooner.
Thanks.
it is a known issue
installing the lag fix might kill your internal SD
just a warning.
if you still have the invoice and can send the phone in for warranty, then you are good to install the lag fix
if you don't have the invoice for the warranty, then it might be problematic when it fails
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it is a known issue
installing the lag fix might kill your internal SD
just a warning.
if you still have the invoice and can send the phone in for warranty, then you are good to install the lag fix
if you don't have the invoice for the warranty, then it might be problematic when it fails
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in all cases you better have your warranty, but the lag fix won't kill your sd all that quick. original fs is slow only cause it's crap.
the lagfix won't fix slowly installing apps as well btw. it will still freeze when installing.
just search the forum, there are lots of prove, look for SD, internal SD, bricked, can't mount, can't boot, etc...
the majority of those are after installing a lag fix or a rom with lag fix like voodoo, and i'm currently submitting two phones to warranty from fellow XDA members because of that
and you don't need to believe me, but time will tell for anyone using the lag fixes
AllGamer said:
it is a known issue
installing the lag fix might kill your internal SD
just a warning.
if you still have the invoice and can send the phone in for warranty, then you are good to install the lag fix
if you don't have the invoice for the warranty, then it might be problematic when it fails
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Thanks for the info.
Is it a known issue for the galaxy s, or for all android phones and versions?
Is there any timeframe for a fix ?
Thanks
I was just talking with a friend about this problem this morning. He had never seen this problem with his Nexus 1. I don't believe that this is an android problem just a sgs problem.
I wonder if this is some how related to the black screen issue. It seems that something has priority over the ui thread or has exclusive access to a resource required by the ui.
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In my case, when I first used the phone, apps downloaded from market installed almost instantaneously. However, now apps install noticeably slower. However, I assume me having 9 pages of apps now might be the culprit...
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Thanks for the info.
Is it a known issue for the galaxy s, or for all android phones and versions?
Is there any timeframe for a fix ?
Thanks
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the lag fix was made only for the SGS
yes, it's only a SGS problem, it seems to affect more the units with 16 GB internal SD
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just search the forum, there are lots of prove, look for SD, internal SD, bricked, can't mount, can't boot, etc...
the majority of those are after installing a lag fix or a rom with lag fix like voodoo, and i'm currently submitting two phones to warranty from fellow XDA members because of that
and you don't need to believe me, but time will tell for anyone using the lag fixes
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it's not the memory wearing out, it's errors in applying the fixes/mix firmwares/etc (or bugs in the fixes themselves sometimes)
even if memory would wear out faster, its not like if lifetime would be reduced to a couple of minutes (or even days of constant write)
as i said making any such modification you should have the warranty or take your own risks (theres always a disclaimer !) but it's not the memory wearing out
To the OP: That's your big problem with the device? Man... please...
Who cares if it takes 5 seconds to install an app, that's something you do the first day only. You never saw a program in Windows taking 15 minutes to install? I have a SLC SSD on my laptop and that reduces the disk access times a lot, but if a program takes a few minutes to install, so be it. I'm not installing 100 programs every day.
The same with the SGS. Inputting the details and configuring the options of my e-mail, twitter, facebook, kindle, etc accounts takes much more time than installing the apps.
Basically, I have a Z1 I'm running Android 4.3 On it. (and I in no way intend to get 4.4 anytime soon by the way).
It has started to get a bit buggy and laggy, a few white screens and slow loading times here and there but I can generally deal with that, what I can't deal with however is that:
1. Apps will randomly minimise and I'll go back to the home screen, when I try to go back to the app sometimes it works but usually it will come back for a few seconds and then minimise again or even just do it right away. This happens particularly when using Chrome, more particularly when I am zooming or trying to type.
Which brings on to issue 2:
The keyboard takes ages to load, like up to a minute after I've clicked in a text box, this can also cause apps to then minimise again, very frustrating not being able to type. This has also started to occur when trying to text, but it's mainly in chrome.
This would lead me to think that the RAM isn't coping very well, but I do try to clear caches and stop apps from running but still I generally only have between 120-150mb of free RAM, so what can/should I do?
I'm tempted to factory reset to be honest.
Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this forum is the place to be for Androiders. :fingers-crossed:
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Basically, I have a Z1 I'm running Android 4.3 On it. (and I in no way intend to get 4.4 anytime soon by the way).
It has started to get a bit buggy and laggy, a few white screens and slow loading times here and there but I can generally deal with that, what I can't deal with however is that:
1. Apps will randomly minimise and I'll go back to the home screen, when I try to go back to the app sometimes it works but usually it will come back for a few seconds and then minimise again or even just do it right away. This happens particularly when using Chrome, more particularly when I am zooming or trying to type.
Which brings on to issue 2:
The keyboard takes ages to load, like up to a minute after I've clicked in a text box, this can also cause apps to then minimise again, very frustrating not being able to type. This has also started to occur when trying to text, but it's mainly in chrome.
This would lead me to think that the RAM isn't coping very well, but I do try to clear caches and stop apps from running but still I generally only have between 120-150mb of free RAM, so what can/should I do?
I'm tempted to factory reset to be honest.
Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this forum is the place to be for Androiders. :fingers-crossed:
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Factory reset is the only logical thing j could recommend, short of an update. Any reason as to why you're avoiding the kitkat update? It's running like a dream on my Z1
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Factory reset is the only logical thing j could recommend, short of an update. Any reason as to why you're avoiding the kitkat update? It's running like a dream on my Z1
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Yeah I thought that a reset might be the best option.
Well I've often regretted doing OS updates on my phones in the past, and KitKat has some funny privacy and content management rules that I thought might stop me from really benefitting from the freedoms that I originally loved so much from Android, or am I wrong? Can I still move Apps around? My girlfriend got 4.4 on her S4 and it really ruined it, UI got clogged with Apps she couldn't use or delete! :silly:
I don't really want to root my phone either so It's a tough decision! :
Thanks for your help.
KK to sdcard saving is easy
root takes 3 minutes
benefits ? 300000000000000 minutes of your life saved from the stress and headaches
keyboard and apps dont minimize (which is just a bonus)
For issue no.1, I used to have that. I ended up reinstalling my rom, ROMAUR 9.1, and actually reloaded all my apps via titanium backup but without their data. This helped my phone out a lot.
Before I did this, pressing the recent apps softkey button would minimize to my home screen and pressing it again would do nothing. I'd have to wait some seconds before the function would work properly. My ram would be ok as well. But I noticed it more while I was using Swype. Switching to Google keyboard made it act up less.
For issue no.2, as I said, Swype would be the main cause of lag. In some cases, it was responsible for my softkeys not being responsive. I'd have to press home and go to settings and switch the keyboard. Then it would function properly.
I think what it comes down to is the active apps running. Swype is a large apk so utilizes more ram than other keyboard apps. There may be other apps I can't narrow down to that help bog the device down.
I hope this helps!
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Yeah I thought that a reset might be the best option.
Well I've often regretted doing OS updates on my phones in the past, and KitKat has some funny privacy and content management rules that I thought might stop me from really benefitting from the freedoms that I originally loved so much from Android, or am I wrong? Can I still move Apps around? My girlfriend got 4.4 on her S4 and it really ruined it, UI got clogged with Apps she couldn't use or delete! :silly:
I don't really want to root my phone either so It's a tough decision! :
Thanks for your help.
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SD Card management IS a pain. But, the advantages outweigh the cons. Given your situation, just do a clean install