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Question about AT&T Data plan

Hello,
So, I just flashed my phone with Windows mobile 6.5. I found this cool little app someone added so you can share your phone data connection via wifi.
Now, I have a pda unlimited connection plan. However, does anyone know if you can get caught by ATT for not having a tethering plan?
Thanks for the info and great site!
Mike

milkman82 said:
Hello,
So, I just flashed my phone with Windows mobile 6.5. I found this cool little app someone added so you can share your phone data connection via wifi.
Now, I have a pda unlimited connection plan. However, does anyone know if you can get caught by ATT for not having a tethering plan?
Thanks for the info and great site!
Mike
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I cannot tell you about the ATT Dataplan, though usually you'll have to do big numbers in data for any provider to notice!
But what I *do* want to ask is where you found the app, which one is it, and how stable is your phone with it?
I tried a few on my kaiser, and they always hang the phone!

sounds like WMwifirouter

ChumleyEX said:
sounds like WMwifirouter
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Possibly... But HTC recently developed their own "Wifi Share" or "WiFi Internet Sharing" app (which supposedly will come free of charge with their new ROMs) of which there are several versions floating around as well...

are you talking about htc's internet sharing app? going over 5GB of data a month gets AT&T suspicious

CescoAiel said:
Possibly... But HTC recently developed their own "Wifi Share" or "WiFi Internet Sharing" app (which supposedly will come free of charge with their new ROMs) of which there are several versions floating around as well...
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CescoAiel said:
I cannot tell you about the ATT Dataplan, though usually you'll have to do big numbers in data for any provider to notice!
But what I *do* want to ask is where you found the app, which one is it, and how stable is your phone with it?
I tried a few on my kaiser, and they always hang the phone!
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It is the CM or OM internet sharing. Found it came with the windows 6.5 23049 TCP_Stock-like WWE. Everything works well. Funny thing is with the old windows 6.1 I only had 3G. After the upgrade, I now also have HSPDA service. However, I have to say the new IE 6 mobile is nothing great. Skyfire has far better flash support.
Today a guy and I where talking about phones. He has the Iphone 3g and thought it was great. Until I pulled out my phone and went to youtube on skyfire. He did not say much after that. Just started watching the video and tried other flash apps.
These older phones are still great! About 2 weeks ago I was ready to sign another two year contract for the iphone 3gs. Now I am going to wait until the next iphone, Motorola Cliq, or HTC Hero.
Thanks again for the advice!
Mike

haha you should have tried to do anything other that and he would have busted his phone back out and ran his mouth..

As long as you do not go crazy; AT&T will never know. I think there is a real amount of data they look for. But from what I have heard, if you use a total of 5 GB of useage(not just downloads); it throws a red flag. They believe you cannot use 5GB on a phone and basically, even though the plan is unlimited, it is not really unlimited.
Check out the AT&T Tilt FAQ's in the Wiki. And look for tethering
Also for fun do a google search for "man gets $85000 cell phone bill for modem use"; that is what happens if you use your phone as a modem all the time.

[How To] Easily get your MSL - Root Required (No PC or Verizon involvement Needed)

Saw this on the Evo forums and figured it would help some people out over here that may not have gotten their MSL yet. As the app says it may freeze your phone, if this happens you WILL need to do a battery pull, sorry just a side effect, also this is great for people wanting to flash their phones to other carriers, updating your PRL manually, and a few other uses. Also just about every Verizon phone i've laid my hands on have had the MSL/SPC "000000", so please report back if it differs from this, as i have yet to try it on the Incredible.
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ROOT REQUIRED.
There is an app in the market called "MSL Reader". I ran it and it gave me my MSL. Seems like it just came out. If you can, please confirm if it works for you. It took all of two seconds to download and give me my MSL.
The developer of the app is a user on xda called mmastrac and he has a few posts in this thread. Seems pretty cool and responsive to updates. ALL credit goes to him, I just stumbled on the app and happened to post it on xda before he did If you have any issues with the app, you should be able to get a hold of him on here.
If you are reading this on your android, this will link you directly to the market download:
market://search?q=pname:com.esccode.msl
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msl/spc:000000

Haha, well good to know i guess, pretty much useless for you incredible users then eh?

bmxrider4444 said:
Haha, well good to know i guess, pretty much useless for you incredible users then eh?
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That's OK. Why would we want to jump ship to another carrier?

Yeah, all 0's here too - thanks, but no go.

verizon doesnt use msls like sprint does etc does, verizon sets all msls to 000000 thats why your showing that

So in theory, you could get an evo and use it on verizon's network?

ashdawg4 said:
So in theory, you could get an evo and use it on verizon's network?
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not really, the esn wont show up in verizons system and unless you could get a phone rep to add the esn to the network (cloning may work not to sure on that one)

wowthatisrandom said:
not really, the esn wont show up in verizons system and unless you could get a phone rep to add the esn to the network (cloning may work not to sure on that one)
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Interested. Tell me more.

Could always try to sweet talk a rep into adding it for you. Something along the lines of: I lost my phone and I have no insurance on the phone. I don't have the money to outright buy another phone so I purchased one from my friend, can you please add it for me? (can get Evo's from craigslist for around 300-350)

velopirate said:
That's OK. Why would we want to jump ship to another carrier?
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Ummm...because I have 500 anytime, free nights after 7, unlimited weekends, unlimited texts, true unlimited data (no caps) all for the price of $25.43 per month. And most importantly, I'm using an Incredible on it. I won't be giving up Sero anytime soon.
Granted I left Verizon 4 years ago but have been very happy with Sprint. I will say that Verizon does have better coverage but Sprint works fine in my area and I have not had too many coverage issues while traveling.

gedster314 said:
Ummm...because I have 500 anytime, free nights after 7, unlimited weekends, unlimited texts, true unlimited data (no caps) all for the price of $25.43 per month. And most importantly, I'm using an Incredible on it. I won't be giving up Sero anytime soon.
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Wow. If SERO were around for the masses, a lot of us would consider that (if we had friends who work for Sprint). Great price!

At&t is restricting on lte

Hi I had a smartphone personal unlimited that it had no restrictions to any sites. Now when I got the skyrocket they switch me to
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And now it restricts me lots of sites and even on the market some apps.
I return the phone because of this crap and after 8 years with at&t I canceled my service.
Check your account plan see if they change anything and check sites on the web like streaming sites.
It doesn't let me stream like from justintv on lte but when I switch to wifi I have no problem.

well on my iphone i was using an unlimited plan for $30mon, with this vivid, im charged $30mon for unlimited. im not really understanding the difference here. im hoping its not something obvious but as far as i can tell, its the same service except i have 4g
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i think i get it, its restricting data intensive apps. well tbh, im glad they do that. imagine everyone doing data intensive apps on the network... it will make it slow and might even crash it. when i go to the local theme park, no one can hardly use the internet on there phones cause its so slow that many times it will just time out. so many people are using there phones while theyre waiting in lines that the cell tower cant handle it all.

There is no difference for me.

Good, now people can't hog so much data, it won't kill the network.
In all honesty, all you probably have to do is root the phone, and kill some background app, and you'll have full functionality again.

Can't tell any issues. All ny stuff works
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gtkansan said:
Can't tell any issues. All ny stuff works
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What about www.justin.tv
Does not work on my VIVID or Skyrocket. I am on LTE in Houston.
Topic over at the SR Forum on the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337684

are these issues only happening to those with the grandfathered data plan? is there anyone here that lives in an LTE area with a tiered plan that are having similar issues with certain webpages and apps hanging or not working?

alphanumer1c said:
are these issues only happening to those with the grandfathered data plan? is there anyone here that lives in an LTE area with a tiered plan that are having similar issues with certain webpages and apps hanging or not working?
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I am not on any kind of grandfathered plans. On Premier it shows DataPro 2GB Personal for 4G LTE Smartphones
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I thought maybe if being on the enterprise data plan might remove the blocking and changed to the 4GB Enterprise Data. But still being blocked.

Well first I am Glad they are limiting things as stated before it will keep network intensive stuff down which should in turn make the network in general function better. Also if I recall correctly on a different device there where apps that were blocked from being installed over 3g but once root was achieved it was bypassed so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much considering I think the change was in the software.

malickie said:
Well first I am Glad they are limiting things as stated before it will keep network intensive stuff down which should in turn make the network in general function better. Also if I recall correctly on a different device there where apps that were blocked from being installed over 3g but once root was achieved it was bypassed so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much considering I think the change was in the software.
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Yes and tomorrow they going to restrict phone calls too? This is a free country man I pay 30 and I want full access.
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And you want a lovely nice bottle neck with that too right? Considering if they allow Large files to go down they will Bottle Neck considering the network they have is still shoddy I mean hell look at what happened when the 1st iPhones were released and Everyone was downloading stuff almost immediately...Network Crashed. So Either it's yay have unlimited and watch the network crash because it got too congested and Not be able to use your Data At All or deal with the slight restrictions and go home or to a Wi-Fi area which there are plenty of and Download the stuff there.
But as I stated in the post prior I am guessing it is probably throttled some where in the software like previous phones have been and it is just a matter of rooting and finding the code and changing it.

donniesd said:
What about www.justin.tv
Does not work on my VIVID or Skyrocket. I am on LTE in Houston.
Topic over at the SR Forum on the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337684
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If you use a different browser such as opera mobile justin/twitch tv work fine...

Works just fine on the Dolphin Broswer.
As for limiting, this also says it on 3g, however my corporate exchange and intranet sites work just fine. I have yet to have anything blocked except the same things many people do like block file size for an app that wants you to use WIFI.

i've had no problems so far...a few hickups while video chattin..but otherrwise im enjoyin my $30.00 unlimited plan.

I have had the Family Unlimited Data Plan for years, Since the Blue Angel, then Apache.
My Data is $30/Mo. Unlimited for all my lines with throttling to faux-g (as I cleverly heard it put) starting after 10Gb of Data.
Your plan was not a Smartphone data plan it seems to me. Looks like you reaped the benefits of it for some time, time to pay the piper.

Tether vivid?

Ok so I've bein having a hard time to get my vivid to tetherive used the temp root method but neither barnacle or the wireless tether app seem to work my computer connects to the phone but says there's no internet connection any ideas ?
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Same Problem
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Im having the same exact problem. Im using the newest version of wifi tether. I turn it on, my mac recognizes it as a device and Im able to connect, however there is no internet connection.
I have tried Barnacle Tether as well.
Any suggestions

Works great with tether plan and LTE
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

Have you tried sing the media net APN? I got mine to tether without the plan

Yeah I hace tries it bit ir askedme to sign yo for tether plan
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Apn Tether
Yes, I have tried it and it worked great for about half a day. Then once i tried turning it on and got the "you need a tether plan from At&T" message. I tried everything, restarting, deleting the apn and making it again, nothing. The only thing I can think of is part of the instructions said I had to set an APN protocol if it was applicable. This was not one of the settings I saw so I just assumed I didnt need it. Could that be the problem?

That's strange tho because I have used those tether apps on other htc phones and they have never failed
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for usb tethering easy tether (http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html) works great for me. i bought the full version for my aria and now vivid, love it. pricy at $9.99 per device but as much as i use it, it's well worth it for reliability.
I had to install it on my aria using the side loading wonder machine (google it). but on the vivid when i paid for it online it downloaded from the market over the air.

russell1997 said:
for usb tethering easy tether (http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html) works great for me. i bought the full version for my aria and now vivid, love it. pricy at $9.99 per device but as much as i use it, it's well worth it for reliability.
I had to install it on my aria using the side loading wonder machine (google it). but on the vivid when i paid for it online it downloaded from the market over the air.
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Does this tether the LTE connection or will it only work on hspa?

jsalter85 said:
Does this tether the LTE connection or will it only work on hspa?
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i don't have LTE to test it but i would think so, if i switch to wi-fi the tether still functions. i guess i'm saying as long as you are online this program would be too.

russell1997 said:
i don't have LTE to test it but i would think so, if i switch to wi-fi the tether still functions. i guess i'm saying as long as you are online this program would be too.
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and is this app for USB tether only or does it work as a hotspot?

jsalter85 said:
and is this app for USB tether only or does it work as a hotspot?
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usb only.
i appears at&t didn't lock down the hotspot functionality so, I assume you can use it just fine.
i haven't tested that yet either

Tried the Wifi hotspot functionality and AT&T has it locked down as well.

PDANET
PDANET works great for tethering!!!! no root required and no custom apn settings and it works with LTE

esloan said:
Tried the Wifi hotspot functionality and AT&T has it locked down as well.
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JEANRIVERA said:
PDANET works great for tethering!!!! no root required and no custom apn settings and it works with LTE
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Don't have my vivid yet, but from what I've heard this is one option that will tether the LTE connection via usb.

baltimorelizard said:
Don't have my vivid yet, but from what I've heard this is one option that will tether the LTE connection via usb.
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The downside of PDAnet is there is software on the PC/MAC side. I only want it on the phone. Im not always at the same tablet/computer etc.

If you have a better solution share it I would like to get rid of the pc/Mac software side also!!!!

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If you have a better solution share it I would like to get rid of the pc/Mac software side also!!!!
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I think we need root

I'm waiting for either the Skyrocket to be released in white or if the permanent root gets released for the vivid. Really like the Vivid and actually seems to have better stand by battery than the SR.
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[Q] Question about data caps and tethering

I'm starting to get a little worried by what I'm reading in the N6 forums. I've been building my own roms for my devices since i've had my Nexus 4. I would just sync AOKP's repo and build it. This is because AOKP always had whatever was needed to skirt not only tethering caps, but data caps in general. Unfortunately AOKP seems to be dead.
I use my device as my internet wholly so its very important I keep that. I haven't activated my N6 because of this. As I usually use around 400GB a month.
Do any of these new roms for the N6 have this? Is this something I could build/add in on my own? I'm not concerned with the tethering bypass as I know that can be achieved with the DUN workaround.
It would be fantastic if someone could point me in the correct direction about the info that makes this possible. I would be extremely grateful. Thank you devs that make this stuff happen.

Why not just get unlimited data plan.

Because I would rather not give any more money than I must to a company to regularly takes steps to monetize on the data I already pay for. Subscribers should be able to use whatever data as much as they please.

joeyk240 said:
I'm starting to get a little worried by what I'm reading in the N6 forums. I've been building my own roms for my devices since i've had my Nexus 4. I would just sync AOKP's repo and build it. This is because AOKP always had whatever was needed to skirt not only tethering caps, but data caps in general. Unfortunately AOKP seems to be dead.
I use my device as my internet wholly so its very important I keep that. I haven't activated my N6 because of this. As I usually use around 400GB a month.
Do any of these new roms for the N6 have this? Is this something I could build/add in on my own? I'm not concerned with the tethering bypass as I know that can be achieved with the DUN workaround.
It would be fantastic if someone could point me in the correct direction about the info that makes this possible. I would be extremely grateful. Thank you devs that make this stuff happen.
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I'm not exactly sure I understand what you're asking about here. You realize that data caps from your plan can not be bypassed no matter what you do. If by that you mean tethering data caps than yes, a simple mod can be added to stock and no root is really necessary, although it is easier to do with having root.
If by some other way you are talking about bypassing data caps on your plan then I'm all ears on how that's possible.
BTW, none of the US carriers have unlimited tethering plans so there isn't enough money you can give them to allow unlimited tethering. Unless of course your outside US.
Also, I guess you're the one sucking everyone's bandwidth on that one tower around your house. Who is your provider?

Maybe I'm just some freak occurrence, however my wife who is on the same plan as me (Tmo $30) gets capped at 5GB every month on a stock rom, I on the other hand use anywhere from 2-400GB's a month. I've also noticed that it works on some roms, but not others.
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Maybe I'm just some freak occurrence, however my wife who is on the same plan as me (Tmo $30) gets capped at 5GB every month on a stock rom, I on the other hand use anywhere from 2-400GB's a month. I've also noticed that it works on some roms, but not others.
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Are you talking about pre paid or post paid plans? They don't limit data on post paid its just 5gb of LTE then its 3G for the rest of you go over until your next billing cycle. I have the Unlimited LTE talk and text plan and so far I'm at 30gb and its still LTE speeds so they don't throttle the unlimited plan.

joeyk240 said:
Maybe I'm just some freak occurrence, however my wife who is on the same plan as me (Tmo $30) gets capped at 5GB every month on a stock rom, I on the other hand use anywhere from 2-400GB's a month. I've also noticed that it works on some roms, but not others.
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What plan are you on? If you're on the T-Mobile unlimited than it's understandable that they won't throttle you because they think you're using your phone and not tethering.
Again, there is a hack to bypass the carrier check, which allows them to know you are tethering.
If you've cooked your own ROMs before surely you know what to do.