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Tactile feedback of power button...

Hello,
I don't know if it is common to the diamond, that the power-button gives nearly no tactile feedback by pressing it, perhaps its only with few devices.
When I'am pressing the button I'am only aware to have done it correctly, when the device gets on or off. The button is built relatively deep into the housing of the phone, so I have often press it twice.
Even If I press it gently with the fingernail to feel slightes response, I it is very hard to recognize the point where the microswitch is activated.
Is this a normal issue?
Kind Regards:
Token42

i suffer from no such issue, i think yours is borked

pwoyorkie said:
i suffer from no such issue, i think yours is borked
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Thanks for feedback. Currently the button works for me, appart from beeing not suh responsive - so I keep the device until it gets wors.
If I press the button in the middle with my nail there is a minimal "click-feeling" , so the switch seems not completely broken, curriosely there is a little more tactile feedback, when I release it.

how long have you had it ?
I know at t-mobile if develops a fault within the first 28 days youre entitled to an exchange. If youve had it under a month it may be worth just changing it before a 28 day exchange turns into a 2 week repair.

Mine has the same thing too. It really isn't a big issue but it does get annoying at times.

Mine reacts the same way, as I think it has been designed into the device as a "feature"......in other words: have to actively press it to make it work, so that it cannot be turned on by accident (hence why it is mostly recessed)
I don't think your device is broken....suspect if you return it, you will get one with exactly the same feature

Many thanks for your comments!
I feel much better now, since I know others have the same issue and it has not be a fault on my device.
Even it where faulty, I could live with it, cause it works all in all, but I think it would be much better to have a decent tactile feedbak on the power-switch.
Perhaps the power-button is a solid peace of hardware, but often when I press it I think something like "how long will it take, till does not work anymore" - but this is only a psychological issue, perhaps.
Many regards!

the button should project just enough to feel it with your fingers
the earlier htc touch had a recessed power button which was a bit difficult to press....so the one on the diamond is relatively easier to press coz it projects out of the body
also, how ur holding the device whilst pressing the power button also makes a difference!

Broken Power Button

Anyone else have a broken power button from regular day to day use?
Mine started acting up like 2 weeks ago. I noticed I had to press the power button more than once to turn the screen off/on. As the days went by the presses increased til it eventually gave out entirely this weekend as I landed in Vegas. I had to get someone to call my phone so I can turn the screen on and download "no lock" to enable trackball wake. I've also been paranoid about not letting the battery die since I won't be able to turn the phone on.
Calling Google/HTC tomorrow.
Btw, this is my second nexus one. First one had dead pixels. I had this second one maybe a month before the power button gave up!

Bummer.. Thought this might be a weak point in the design. Thanks for the heads up on "no lock". Will use that when @ home.

I've read about it happening a couple of times

Oh my god I'm having the same problem. Thought my N1's power button is now getting harder and harder to press to turn the screen on and off.
I was so angry about that, but after sometimes I figured out that the problem is not from the button (the hardware), it's because of the software. I dont know exactly from what apps which caused this, uninstalled some apps (especially apps for root only - which I thought are the main causes), but sometimes the problem occurs.
*Im using MCR r13.
And for your poor N1's button, I think it's broken because when facing with that trouble, you tried to press too hard... Bless your N1!
(Sorry for my bad english!)

Not A Software Problem...
The issue you are having is indeed a hardware problem. Well for the OP it is. I had a Nexus that was in the same situation. You can tell its not a hardware problem because if you remove the battery and put battery back in, the phone wont power up unless you press the power button like 8 to 10 times. That my friend is a hardware situation.
I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
So long story short the button itself starts to not make contact with the switch on the mother board or somethin. My bootloader was unlocked so i never got HTC involved. If your on cyan lates rom you can set it to wake via trackball under settings.
In the end, I ended up selling that N1 on craigslist for loot for a HD2 and HD2 was gargage (out dated OS and 65k color max display at LCD) and ended up selling the HD2 and got another nexus.
PS - I did have one of them argyle clear body cases on it that fit the N1 very snug and tightly, and wonder if that had somethin to do with power button goin out since it was rubbing against it repeatily.

same story happend to me, with a regular daily usage. It really bummers me, i unlocked the bootloader too, so i cant send it to HTC.
And I can't sell it in this condition too, sux!
Anyone with the same problem that sent it to HTC?

My wife had her's for about a week before having issues with the power button. Got a replacement and haven't had issues yet.

I had the same problem as the OP. Had to push the button several times to get the phone to respond.
HTC swapped my original N1 with dust under the screen and then sent me one that eventually had the power button crap out.
My GF's Nexus One has had no issues at all and we bought around the same time. My current (third) N1 is now rooted so I'm crossing my fingers that I won't need to deal with HTC again.
I love both the N1 and Android, but from my experience, I'm shocked and disappointed with it's poor build quality.

hypersonicx said:
The issue you are having is indeed a hardware problem. Well for the OP it is. I had a Nexus that was in the same situation. You can tell its not a hardware problem because if you remove the battery and put battery back in, the phone wont power up unless you press the power button like 8 to 10 times. That my friend is a hardware situation.
I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
So long story short the button itself starts to not make contact with the switch on the mother board or somethin. My bootloader was unlocked so i never got HTC involved. If your on cyan lates rom you can set it to wake via trackball under settings.
In the end, I ended up selling that N1 on craigslist for loot for a HD2 and HD2 was gargage (out dated OS and 65k color max display at LCD) and ended up selling the HD2 and got another nexus.
PS - I did have one of them argyle clear body cases on it that fit the N1 very snug and tightly, and wonder if that had somethin to do with power button goin out since it was rubbing against it repeatily.
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Wow... I'm shaking my head at this. You'd think HTC would have thought about this some more...
Crossing my fingers, cuz my power button still "works the first time, most of the time"..

Yea I gave myself a good month of testing this phone before even considering rooting and I'm glad I did.
My first unit was rooted and it was hell to get htc to support my fix over a dead pixel so naturally on my second phone I avoided rooting.
With the build quality on these phones (unfortunately) I would recommend NOT rooting for a good month or so to make sure you don't need warranty support.
I've ended up doing the repair option because I can never justify a $529 hold. Will get a ****ty flip phone loaner from Tmobile for the time being.

sorry to hear your issues but thank you for pointing out that app "no lock". I've been waiting for something like this! Now I can wake my Nexus with the volume button rather than the power button(wear and tear) or the trackball(it gets dirty from touching too much so I never do).

Have any app can replace power button?

I got a ****ty samsung flip phone loaner from tmobile. Ironically, I feel the call quality on these old phones are better than all the smart phones i've owned lol

Will this issue eventually happen to every one? That would be horrible..

Eclair~ said:
Will this issue eventually happen to every one? That would be horrible..
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I guess that all depends on how much people "baby" their phones. Then again, we all die eventually.. same with technology.

ChillRays said:
I guess that all depends on how much people "baby" their phones. Then again, we all die eventually.. same with technology.
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Phone was never dropped and was in one of those gel cases. I use my phone heavily but no more than I've used any of my other phones. That power button is definitely not made for heavy use. I'd hope froyo has a trackball awake feature because from what I read on the interweb this problem is definitely not exclusive to a select few people.

That really blows about the power button. I've heard of that alot now and feared it as well. I'd never heard of the "nolock" program so I'm really glad you mentioned it. Downloaded it and fired it up. Talk about a sweet program, I can't believe it flies to far under the radar. I'm not rooted so it's definately a great program as I wanted trackball wake. Plus you can create a widget on the desktop so you can toggle it off. Sorry about your phone but thanks for the program. I hope you get your phone fixed soon.

Wow a 1 day turn around. My phone should be back here tomorrow in the morning. Seems like HTC customer care is improving?

uansari1 said:
Wow... I'm shaking my head at this. You'd think HTC would have thought about this some more...
Crossing my fingers, cuz my power button still "works the first time, most of the time"..
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Eh TBH I've heard of iphones with the same problem. Manufacturing tolerances in any product inevitably produce a few faulty units...that's what the warranty is for.
Just be glad your N1 will never decide that its automatic backup is now encrypted and password-protected and that you can't use your phone until you figure out what the password you never set is (happened on my brother's iphone 3G)

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I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
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Can you please explain how to remove the power button? Can it be removed alone or you have to remove all the screws and body of the phones?

screen problem

When i press on the screen i see waves on the screen sides is it ok

Why would you even press the screen that hard? It's like pressing on a monitor.

I dont press hard i just put my finger on the edge of the screen and i get waves

Might be a hardware issue then. Get it exchanged.
Reconfirm it by taking a screen shot when you press on it, if the screen shot doesn't show then it's a hardware issue.

can anyone check if they have it too i dont want to send the phone to repair for nothing
its like when u press on a calculator screen waves on the lcd

ihaxda1 said:
can anyone check if they have it too i dont want to send the phone to repair for nothing
its like when u press on a calculator screen waves on the lcd
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Nothing here.
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium

thank you i think its a problem cuz it happens only on one side of the screen
one side of the glass feel soft and one side feels hard

ihaxda1 said:
can anyone check if they have it too i dont want to send the phone to repair for nothing
its like when u press on a calculator screen waves on the lcd
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Nothing here. I can see some blurring on the spot where i push the screen, but that's normal when you push a little harder.

Thats my problem but even when i press a little i get this blur and i got ir only on the left side of the screen i think its a problem one side feel soft and the other side feel hard

ihaxda1 said:
Thats my problem but even when i press a little i get this blur and i got ir only on the left side of the screen i think its a problem one side feel soft and the other side feel hard
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i dont know how gentle (or your definition of gentle) you are pressing the screen but i guess its normal. If it really bothers you that much get it exchanged. If you bought it online then just stick with what youve got, dont even bother going through that much hassle. On the other hand, if you bought it locally, then just go in and ask and show them. I dont think anyone here can give you a solid answer to this matter.

Stiff power button anyone?

My power button has gone stiff on me, cant even feel the click anymore. Power button still works don't get me wrong, but it just feels really stiff and, cant even really full the button push down when you click on it.
Anyone have this issue? I'm pretty sure warranty covers it right? I dropped my phone a few times, no cracks or anything just a couple of scrapes, will this cause issues for warranty?

613BulletProof said:
My power button has gone stiff on me, cant even feel the click anymore. Power button still works don't get me wrong, but it just feels really stiff and, cant even really full the button push down when you click on it.
Anyone have this issue? I'm pretty sure warranty covers it right? I dropped my phone a few times, no cracks or anything just a couple of scrapes, will this cause issues for warranty?
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Yeah I have the same problem and my N6 isn't even a month old yet. But I've mostly tried to ignore it by using the double tap to wake mod. Although it has its drawbacks as its not 100% accurate.

would this be a warranty issue matter

Just return it if that bothers you. I've tried 6 units and no problem with them at all.

ZUK Z1 - Hardware button light intensity

Hey all
After reading this forum for ages I took the plunge on a Z1, and am not disappointed!
I had one question, if anyone is able to help.
The hardware buttons light up with a nice white LED.
However, the one on the left (select open apps) is much, much brighter than the one on the right (back).
In fact, it's almost as if the right hand one doesn't work at all.
Is this the same as everyone else's phone, or does mine have a defect?
Many thanks to anyone that can compare theirs.
Uri

P.S: I have the grey one with the black front, which may make this more noticeable.
Uri

someoneelse999 said:
Hey all
After reading this forum for ages I took the plunge on a Z1, and am not disappointed!
I had one question, if anyone is able to help.
The hardware buttons light up with a nice white LED.
However, the one on the left (select open apps) is much, much brighter than the one on the right (back).
In fact, it's almost as if the right hand one doesn't work at all.
Is this the same as everyone else's phone, or does mine have a defect?
Many thanks to anyone that can compare theirs.
Uri
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Is a hardware issue, I think.
My 2 buttons has the same light intensity and is a good intensity.
In my previous prone, a OnePlus One, I have suffered this issue: the back button had a lower light intensity compared to the other buttons.

bartito said:
Is a hardware issue, I think.
My 2 buttons has the same light intensity and is a good intensity.
In my previous prone, a OnePlus One, I have suffered this issue: the back button had a lower light intensity compared to the other buttons.
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Thanks very much for the quick reply
To be honest, everything else about the phone is perfect (screen, fingerprint scanner, buttons don't wobble, etc), so for the first time in my life I might just live with "almost-perfect".
I had too many issues with iPhones and am worried if I swap it out, then the replacement will have some other defect like screen bleed, etc, etc.
Uri

someoneelse999 said:
Thanks very much for the quick reply
To be honest, everything else about the phone is perfect (screen, fingerprint scanner, buttons don't wobble, etc), so for the first time in my life I might just live with "almost-perfect".
I had too many issues with iPhones and am worried if I swap it out, then the replacement will have some other defect like screen bleed, etc, etc.
Uri
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If you can live with this issue: Don't return it!
I also haven't returned my OPO. Is a small detect I think

Easy to fix
I had this issue too, but it is easy to fix. When you open your phone backcover, you only have to remove the speaker and reposition the led. The led is loose in a cable and so you can reposition it until the buttons have the same intensity and fix it with some glue.
On my phone the intensity is now exactly the same and i only needed half an hour for it.
When you remove the backcover warm it up a bit and use a sucker to avoid scratches in the frame.

Well I can confirm that I have the same issue on my white Zuk! But it's not very noticeable so i'm keeping it like it is!

microdoof said:
I had this issue too, but it is easy to fix. When you open your phone backcover, you only have to remove the speaker and reposition the led. The led is loose in a cable and so you can reposition it until the buttons have the same intensity and fix it with some glue.
On my phone the intensity is now exactly the same and i only needed half an hour for it.
When you remove the backcover warm it up a bit and use a sucker to avoid scratches in the frame.
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Don't seems too easy to remove the Zuk Z1 backcover if you don't are McGiver

bartito said:
Don't seems too easy to remove the Zuk Z1 backcover if you don't are McGiver
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Wasn't very hard to remove, i didn't brake any clips. Use a sucker and as soon as you see a little gap, use a plastic pick or your fingernails to gently pull up the backcover.
After i opened it i removed the tape from the phone and the backcover. After the work is done you can simply close the Backcover without tape or something. I didn't use tape and had no gaps afterwards.

microdoof said:
Wasn't very hard to remove, i didn't brake any clips. Use a sucker and as soon as you see a little gap, use a plastic pick or your fingernails to gently pull up the backcover.
After i opened it i removed the tape from the phone and the backcover. After the work is done you can simply close the Backcover without tape or something. I didn't use tape and had no gaps afterwards.
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I just tried that; broke some pins immediately, they seem to be of very soft plastic... So i would recommend others not to do it

othe01 said:
I just tried that; broke some pins immediately, they seem to be of very soft plastic... So i would recommend others not to do it
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I supposed...

microdoof said:
Wasn't very hard to remove, i didn't brake any clips. Use a sucker and as soon as you see a little gap, use a plastic pick or your fingernails to gently pull up the backcover.
After i opened it i removed the tape from the phone and the backcover. After the work is done you can simply close the Backcover without tape or something. I didn't use tape and had no gaps afterwards.
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Hi guys, even I have noticed the same, the back button light is dimmer than task button. Can somebody suggest if I should get it replaced?

aniketsabarad said:
Hi guys, even I have noticed the same, the back button light is dimmer than task button. Can somebody suggest if I should get it replaced?
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Same for me. back button light intensity is very low compared to menu button. Its not a big issue. My friend also having same issue. you may get same problem in that replacement unit also. So,better keep as it is.

@arunpkrt and @aniketsabarad If you don't mind there is also an option inside the Zuk Z1 lights configuration to switch off this little ugly menu LED and back LED. The function itself stays active and the touch area is large enough to hit the sensitive zone blinded easily .

arunpkrt said:
Same for me. back button light intensity is very low compared to menu button. Its not a big issue. My friend also having same issue. you may get same problem in that replacement unit also. So,better keep as it is.
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You guys are right. I faced this problem initially. The phone was perfect, I set it up nicely and was using it. But after a day or two this back button led issue started frustrating me. I applied for a replacement and was surprised to see that even the replacement unit had same issue. So really no point getting it replaced. If it really bothers, you can take the risk to open up the back case as other members suggested.

I also have the same issue but its not important because im using onscreen keyboard.
Overall is perfect but one thing is missing. We still dont have marshmallow to enjoy before Android N release.
Edit: Happy 500th post to me! God Bless!

I don't have the issue, but if ever I had it, it won't matter as I disabled the hardware buttons once I started using mine. 5.5" is too much of a screen and the 3 on screen buttons don't take up that much space. I am much worried about pressing the hard home button because I read from some users that it failed after 2 or three months of using the phone. I only use it for finger print. No need to press it. Double tap to wake, double tap to sleep. No hard buttons to wear.

bluestricker_21 said:
I also have the same issue but its not important because im using onscreen keyboard.
Overall is perfect but one thing is missing. We still dont have marshmallow to enjoy before Android N release.
Edit: Happy 500th post to me! God Bless!
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Mine has the same problem, if I where you I would just keep it that way and don't go to all the trouble to send it back.
You can also Disable the lights thats what I did