I am due for an upgrade from my old Rhodium.
If I buy the Vivid will AT&T force any changes to my existing $15/month data plan due to the LTE feature?
My understanding is that LTE can not be turned off is this true?
In a non LTE area (SoCal) would the phone just connect at a lower speed and consume less battery?
Does this phone need a new sim card and would that be for my cost?
Sorry for the newb questions.
There might be a chance that you could keep your plan, but the MediaMax isn't really for smartphones. The best chance of keeping your plan is to do your upgrade through the website so that no one will review your account, because once someone checks it and changes it for you, there is no turning back even if you speak to a supervisor.
Samsat, you tried it yet? Did it let you use MediaMax with the Vivid or AT&T detected the IMEI and switched you to a smartphone data plan?
Actually LTE is running in many parts of Socal
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Unfortunately those old media data plans that att/Cingular offered years back will not be grandfathered to New smartphone unlimited plans. You'd have to.choose between the three that are currently offered (200mb, 2gb, 4gb)
Also, an LTE data plan and LTE compatible SIM card are required for data to work at all on the LTE devices. Not even a hspa+ data plan would work
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I went thru this too just get the phone don't do anything go to a att store tell the clerk what you wanna do as in keeping the unlimited but switching it to the LTE and he or she will fix u up I'm running LTE and still have my unlimited
Sorry I miss read the question no it should not
so what would happen if I take an AT&T sim card out of a 3g dumb phone and put it into a HTC vivid?
-Sim card won't be recognized?
-Sim card recognized but data won't work?
-Or data (EDGE/3g/LTE) works but it detected IMEI and require upgrade to a smartphone data plan?
sna said:
so what would happen if I take an AT&T sim card out of a 3g dumb phone and put it into a HTC vivid?
-Sim card won't be recognized?
-Sim card recognized but data won't work?
-Or data (EDGE/3g/LTE) works but it detected IMEI and require upgrade to a smartphone data plan?
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ATT sim out of any phone without the LTE plan won't work. I went from the SGS2 to the Vivid and my data didn't work till they added the LTE plan. You also need the Visual Voicemail added too. I went back to a SGS2, but haven't tried putting the sim back in the Vivid yet though.
broseph23 said:
Also, an LTE data plan and LTE compatible SIM card are required for data to work at all on the LTE devices. Not even a hspa+ data plan would work
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THAT is not true.
The vivid will get data with the old Sim. HSPA+ in fact. But it won't get LTE.
The skyrocket will get no data.
I saw proof of this, this week when a coworker with a vivid could not understand why my vivid had LTE and his did not... He went to the AT&T store and they realized he had a non LTE Sim.
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ATT sim out of any phone without the LTE plan won't work. I went from the SGS2 to the Vivid and my data didn't work till they added the LTE plan. You also need the Visual Voicemail added too. I went back to a SGS2, but haven't tried putting the sim back in the Vivid yet though.
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AT&T 3g data plan will be a problem.
The Sim should work, but you will start getting "hate texts"from AT&T telling you that you need a 4g data plan because they will see the hspa data transfer.
There is actually no difference in the plans and I had no issue getting hspa, but I think it's a mechanism so AT&T can catch people who are trying to do exactly what is being suggested here.
This happened to me when I went from my Dell streak to the sgs2
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Thanks for the replies.
With all the Vivid hate speech (locked bootloader, CIQ, whose returning etc.) going on I still have not done an upgrade.
ATT told me though that the phone comes with a new sim card in the box. I have an existing 200MB data plan which I plan to continue if and when I get the Vivid.
Hopefully the dust will settle soon and I can then decide which phone to get (definitely not Iphone) but maybe Skyrocket, Vivid, Nitro or something else.
No it will not work on hspa without the LTE plan. I've done this a million times for people
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works for me and I'm on a blackberry plan, just added a differant apn to the phone and clicked the radio button, on hspa+ here.
What if I buy the Canadian Bell version of the phone "HTC Raider" it has all the necessary bands, I just wonder if the imei number will be the same as the Vivid. If it's not the same, I'm pretty sure I can at least get 3G without changing data plans. I'm on the old ATT unlimited medianet plan. Can anyone confirm if the Imei is the same?
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What if I buy the Canadian Bell version of the phone "HTC Raider" it has all the necessary bands, I just wonder if the imei number will be the same as the Vivid. If it's not the same, I'm pretty sure I can at least get 3G without changing data plans. I'm on the old ATT unlimited medianet plan. Can anyone confirm if the Imei is the same?
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The IMEI is unique in each device is like a serial number of the phone itself, but to answer your question the IMEI number of the Canadian bell HTC Raider won't show up in their system as a valid HTC VIVID and you won't be able to have an LTE data plan unless you get an IMEI from someone else HTC VIVID and give it to them by phone so the could put the LTE plan on your account, but in the other hand you might get away with the medianet data plan!!!
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The IMEI is unique in each device is like a serial number of the phone itself, but to answer your question the IMEI number of the Canadian bell HTC Raider won't show up in their system as a valid HTC VIVID and you won't be able to have an LTE data plan unless you get an IMEI from someone else HTC VIVID and give it to them by phone so the could put the LTE plan on your account, but in the other hand you might get away with the medianet data plan!!!
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Thanks..to be honest I would be fine with 3.5G speeds, cause I've been stuck with this European Desire HD that only gets Edge speed!!
I went from the Tilt 2 (Rhodium) to the vivid and am loving the phone. I had an unlimited data plan and I live in an non-lte area. I didn't have to change my plan and they upgraded my sim card no issue.
esloan said:
I went from the Tilt 2 (Rhodium) to the vivid and am loving the phone. I had an unlimited data plan and I live in an non-lte area. I didn't have to change my plan and they upgraded my sim card no issue.
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I had the same results, though LTE is not available in my area I was allowed to keep my unlimited data plan but given an LTE sim and LTE access. My store representative told me they will not be pushing unlimited customers to tiered plans for LTE.
I do not necessarily believe him hence why I took an early upgrade and paid more for my phone.
My advice is to talk to the representative first and hope an an LTE phone immediately if they go with your request.
Before I got my Vivid, I had an iPhone 3GS. I have the Unlimited Data plan, which I get to keep since I was grandfathered in. When I did the upgrade, the AT&T rep had to change my data plan from an "iPhone Unlimited Plan" to a "4G LTE Unlimited Plan" He also had to change my Voicemail plan from "iPhone Visual Voicemail" to the AT&T visual voicemail system. The 4G Unlimited Plan exist, but its only for those people who upgrade from a smartphone such as an iPhone to a 4G phone and are grandfathered in to unlimited data. Also, I think an AT&T rep actually has to do the switch, I dont think its something you can do online, although I haven't tried so I'm not really sure about that one.
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Hi!!
I have HTC Inspire with unlimited data plan and dicide to buy a HTC vivid, swap sims cards and notice that the internet didnt work. So I called Att customer service and they said that my Unlimited data plan is not compatible with Vivids "4g Lte" beacouse of my unlimited DATA. Therfore they said if i wanted to use the phone i have to change my plan and pay for each gig.. Any way iam determine to use my phone beacouse i just paid $200 for it (NEW out of the Box hell of a deal!! ).
Any ideas
how i can use the internet?
or change vivids 4 lte to H+ like my Inspire? ***I tried to set my network type WCDMA preferred, GSM only, WCDMA only, GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto, LTE only. But i cant chage to non of them just WCDMA.
At this moment Iam using an diferrent apn that i found in the XDA forum and my mobile internet works (DL Speed 5 to 7 megas), but my Wifi Thether wont give me access to the internet. (At this moment the phone is rooted and haves super user and is s-off).
Plz anyone can help be very aprecited!!
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Hi!!
I have HTC Inspire with unlimited data plan and dicide to buy a HTC vivid, swap sims cards and notice that the internet didnt work. So I called Att customer service and they said that my Unlimited data plan is not compatible with Vivids "4g Lte" beacouse of my unlimited DATA. Therfore they said if i wanted to use the phone i have to change my plan and pay for each gig.. Any way iam determine to use my phone beacouse i just paid $200 for it (NEW out of the Box hell of a deal!! ).
Any ideas
how i can use the internet?
or change vivids 4 lte to H+ like my Inspire? ***I tried to set my network type WCDMA preferred, GSM only, WCDMA only, GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto, LTE only. But i cant chage to non of them just WCDMA.
At this moment Iam using an diferrent apn that i found in the XDA forum and my mobile internet works (DL Speed 5 to 7 megas), but my Wifi Thether wont give me access to the internet. (At this moment the phone is rooted and haves super user and is s-off).
Plz anyone can help be very aprecited!!
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If use this APN Setting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338109
If you have unlimited data, you should be able to upgrade to lte unlimited data and pay what you are now. I did. Talk to someone else at att.
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If you have unlimited data, you should be able to upgrade to lte unlimited data and pay what you are now. I did. Talk to someone else at att.
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I had to do this but it has its downside. On my att account online it reads number of mb used out of 10238976 mb so it's not really unlimited. I was also informed when I went into my att store to get an explanation, that I would be moved from my unlimited plan to the tiered 4gb data plan if I went over 4gb in a billing cycle. I'm not sure if it's true or not but I'm afraid ill lose my "unlimited" at 30 a month if I push my luck. I never wanted lte since its not available in my area but they moved me to the lte by "accident" since I bought an lte phone. No going back once they switch you so be careful. I'm constantly at 2gb a month anyway so it looks I won't be using my phone as a modem when I travel.
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I will ask some one else and see if i can stay with my same contract... the thing is that they want to change my contract.
Definitely speak to someone else. You do not have to switch from your "unlimited" plan to a tiered plan to use the Vivid.
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I had to do this but it has its downside. On my att account online it reads number of mb used out of 10238976 mb so it's not really unlimited. I was also informed when I went into my att store to get an explanation, that I would be moved from my unlimited plan to the tiered 4gb data plan if I went over 4gb in a billing cycle. I'm not sure if it's true or not but I'm afraid ill lose my "unlimited" at 30 a month if I push my luck. I never wanted lte since its not available in my area but they moved me to the lte by "accident" since I bought an lte phone. No going back once they switch you so be careful. I'm constantly at 2gb a month anyway so it looks I won't be using my phone as a modem when I travel.
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If I'm correct I believe 10238976 mb translates into 1 Terabyte, and you will likely be throttled way before you reach 1tb. It is essentially unlimited (of course you could argue that 1tb is not unlimited, but if you really do go over 1tb, you're a douche for hogging up THAT much data)
If you are going to be sticking to LTE phones, I do highly suggest you change your plan to LTE Unlimited as the speed is just awesome Even at one bar LTE hits 7 ~ 10 down and 6 ~ 8 up, which is something that HSPA+ needs full signal to achieve.
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If I'm correct I believe 10238976 mb translates into 1 Terabyte, and you will likely be throttled way before you reach 1tb. It is essentially unlimited (of course you could argue that 1tb is not unlimited, but if you really do go over 1tb, you're a douche for hogging up THAT much data)
If you are going to be sticking to LTE phones, I do highly suggest you change your plan to LTE Unlimited as the speed is just awesome Even at one bar LTE hits 7 ~ 10 down and 6 ~ 8 up, which is something that HSPA+ needs full signal to achieve.
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Not a data hog like you suggest but I do use about 16 gig + when I travel. Have not been throttled yet so I'm not sure when they penalize you for using a service that you pay for
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Apatche69 said:
Not a data hog like you suggest but I do use about 16 gig + when I travel. Have not been throttled yet so I'm not sure when they penalize you for using a service that you pay for
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For usage such as that I would expect throttling in the future, however its based on market averages.
As for OP, what the rep told you is flat out untrue. Simply goto a cor store or call care say you purchased a new phone and want to register the imei and change to the appropriate data plan. Once the rep inputs the imei he will be able to switch you to the LTE version of what you have. As for apns use the pts once they change it.
Drew
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I too swapped my phones and all the rep did was register my IMEI and switch me to the LTE version of my plan.
Yup, unlimited data here as well. AT&T will do what they can to get you off of that plan.
After I upgraded my phone, when I called in to get Visual Voicemail setup, the girl I spoke with told me "it was all done". A few hours later, I started getting notifications that I was reaching my limit of 200MB on my data. She had actually switched me to the 200MB plan and never told me. I called back, spoke with a supervisor, he was very apologetic and put me back on the unlimited plan with the Visual Voicemail. They definitely have the power to do it but will try and talk you out of it.
What AT&T doesn't tell you is that they use the same Sim cards on all of their phones, even if they do not have LTE (obvious exception would be the iphone 4). So go into the store and request a new sim. they may be petty and charge you but it is better then losing unlimited data
At&t reps get paid on feature values, they could care less whether you're on an unlimited or a capped data plan. Just go to a corporate at&t store and them them change your unlimited hspa+ data plan to unlimited LTE.
If you are to lazy/stupid to figure that out then use these apn settings. Go into settings, wireless and networks, mobile network settings, apn settings.
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: wireless.cingular.c0m
Port: 80
Username: wap.cingulargprs.c0m
Password: cingular1
Server: Leave blank
MMSC:htt p://mmsc.cingular.c0m
MMS Proxy: 66.209.11.32
MMS Protocol: wap 2.0
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
APN Type Leave blank
What you should is leave att thats what ima do att sucks
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I always hated AT&T until I got to North Texas. The store guys are great & many know more than the upper level/tier tech support folks.
I got my Vivid on release day & kept the all time best plan ever which I have had for awhile now. Family unlimited data + messaging. For $45 I get unlimited data including LTE here in North Texas, + unlimited SMS & MMS on four different lines. It was a plan from back in the messaging/data war days. My rep. here in Allen is great & they no what's a good deal & actually tell customers what is best for their situation. Over my many upgrades they have always either told me to hang on to my plan, or just known better & not mentioned it.
I'll tell you one thing for certain, dealing with the stores in Texas sure beats the hell out of the California reps or anyone at 611 support. Whenever I have issues or need anything, I go into my local store & have always gotten great service. They've even involved me with sales a time or two when a customer says something like "well you just want me to buy that one because it is more expensive to upgrade", & I'll simply all what they want the device for mostly & then explain that AT&T still pays more for the high end device, so you may as well make them pay the highest subsidy & spend a few more bucks to get a device that will last & is likely to see a few updates. Buying a Vivid, SkyRocket or something like the upcoming Sony Ion, even if you have it for two whole years, it will likely perform better in spite of age & a few drops than the free or 29.00 dollar pan tech that will never see ics, let alone any update at all.
Other stores I've been in, when living in California, I'd get dirty looks for talking to customers, here they almost encourage it.
Well, I did all you guys told me to do.. change my apn, change sim and talk with customer service. After 3 days and continued fight with ATT, my unlimited data plan is not compatible ltg. I tried talking with att supervisor, Ing, and Customer Service "every body" and the answer is "not Compatible".. Those SOB even change my plan to $30 2 gig and now i am fighting back my unlimited data. I field a case and in Feb 2 i will have my unlimited data again...
Iam really pissed off with they had done to my contract. it was a big mistake in switching my insire for a vivid ltg.
If any one had this problem please replay...
PS: for the dude how told me stupid/lazy i am not neather of those and i did all i can in my reach, for matter of fact i use about 30 gig a mounth my insire.... So ill doing anything to protect my contract.... There for iam not JAJAJAJ
Hello,
I recently purchased an unlocked international version GNote GT-N7000.
I went to the ATT local store and told them that I wanted to buy a gophone simcard. They asked me if I had a phone with me, I said no and the simcard is for my friend so I don't know which phone my friend's gonna use.
I got $50 unlimited call, text, data plan, and the rep activated the simcard for me.
After that, I put the simcard into my GNote.
Calls and texts work fine.
I've tried every APN settings on "[GUIDE] Getting your unlocked Note fully functional on AT&T (including MMS)" this thread.
Even the last one that should work for GoPhone plan doesn't work for me.
The Network Mode is set to "GSM/WCDMA".
When I choose "GSM only", some APN settings (about cingular one) worked for a moment with really slow speed (EDGE speed) and went back to not working.
If I left the mode to "GSM/WCDMA", I see 3G, H, H+, these signs and arrows going up and down, and mobile network shows it's connected, but if I open browser or market, none of them works (network error).
What did I do wrong? I can't find any answer from the above thread that I mentioned.
Can you reply your APN settings that work for your GoPhone plan here?
What if I change to different prepaid company, which one works best in SoCal like reception, data speed, and etc?
Anyone use Simple Mobile? cuz I know thay have $40 unlimited everything plan include 3G internet.
Thank you!!
Sorry, but I've never tried making use of GoPhone, so I can't offer assistance there.
Two issues with Simple Mobile.
Their $40 3G plan throttles data to just barely above 2G speeds.
Simple Mobile runs off of the T-Mobile network, which uses 3G/4G (UMTS/HSPA+) frequencies the International Note is currently incapable of using.
Long story short, International Note would be limited to Edge speeds on Simple Mobile. If you want a cheap unlimited plan, go to Straight Talk. If you can manage staying under 100MB of data a day, their $45 Unlimited plan would probably be the way to go. If you prefer 2GB of data per month that you're free to use any way you like, Jolt Mobile offers such a plan for $60/month.
I use Straight Talk on my International Note and the settings in the "How to use your International Note on Straight Talk" settings work for me off the bat: voice, data, sms, and mms. It's $45/month and it runs on AT&T's network. Maybe you could try the APN settings for Straight Talk on your GoPhone plan and see if it works.
If you want to try Straight Talk, you can order a SIM from their website for $15.
at t knows that your using a smartphone.so you need to add a data package to your go phone Sim account
I had the same trouble. The unlimited data us only for their approved phones. And iPhones you cannot even add a data package to their go phone accounts. Att is pure evil
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adelmundo said:
I use Straight Talk on my International Note and the settings in the "How to use your International Note on Straight Talk" settings work for me off the bat: voice, data, sms, and mms. It's $45/month and it runs on AT&T's network. Maybe you could try the APN settings for Straight Talk on your GoPhone plan and see if it works.
If you want to try Straight Talk, you can order a SIM from their website for $15.
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Noooo it doesn't work for my GoPhone plan =[
So, Straight Talk uses ATT's network? Then I maybe go for Straigh Talk.. I was worried about the coverage because in the website, the map doesn't clearly show the coverage.
Thank you!
snoopycr said:
at t knows that your using a smartphone.so you need to add a data package to your go phone Sim account
I had the same trouble. The unlimited data us only for their approved phones. And iPhones you cannot even add a data package to their go phone accounts. Att is pure evil
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wow... so they know. =[
I don't understand then why they would call the $50 plan as unlimited call, text and data if they are gonna charge extra $$ for smartphone data.
hmmmmm 250 minutes for $25 plan sound little short for me.
maybe I should go for Straight Talk then.
if you do decide to go with Straight Talk, when ordering a sim card from their site, make sure to order the AT&T compatible sim, and you will be set. I just got my N7000 Note Friday and hooked it up with Straight Talk no problem. Speeds are very decent. Good luck.
How's us the data speed for straight talk
Does it work for international unlocked iPhones too
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Straight talk is the best option for unlocked gsm phone. I'm using it on my unlocked Note and iPhone
Data speed is very good. $45 is a great deal for unlimited everything
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I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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this has been asked before and it seems to have something to do with how new your sim card is...mine didnt have to be changed but provisioned for lte
and some have had to have theirs replaced.. here is the thread that it was it was talked about in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420310
hope you find what you was looking for
Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
I had that one, they gave me a new SIM at Best Buy.
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Yeah. It doesn't cost anything to get a new SIM. I had to get one for my daughter's phone.
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Vicpdx18 said:
oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
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No, that's a 3G-enabled SIM card. It works on UMTS and HSPA, unlike the 64K SmartChip (the GSM SIM) that I had from when EDGE was the best thing since sliced bread. That's why you never needed to upgrade your SIM when faux-G hit on the Inspire.
When I upgraded to the SYNC (see sig), that was right before Cingular was bought by ATT. I had to get a new SIM at that point, and they gave me the one you describe. I had to get another one when I got the Shine, as the contacts on it had corroded (or something; the card refused to read); that time, I got one that said AT&T on it (it was a palette swap of the Cingular card). I was still forced to upgrade yet again when I got the Vivid.
im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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APN settings are stored in the ROM, not the SIM. The SIM authenticates you with the APNs that it is provisioned for.
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Your explanation wasn't confusing IMO. Their rationale is just plain stupid.
Gotta love America and its false advertising.
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I see what you mean everyone yea i actually went in the other day to a store and got a new one for LTE even though there is no LTE in Oregon yet. But i do understand because i did use my Cingular Sim in my vivid and calling/texting did work fine just the data did not work so pretty much for faster internet you need a Sim card that can be provisioned for LTE is what im hearing. Also for the newer tech you need a new one
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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maddie01 said:
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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Well you should post it just for anyone who needs it. I actually got an LTE Sim not to long ago so im good on that front.
Thanks!!!
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; ..........................................................................................
Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Thanks for telling us what many of us probably suspected. I have always thought that most of what we are told is just "marketing hype" until proven otherwise. Much like the burger commercials tha make the subject look soooo tantalizing and huge when in fact it might taste great but is not THAT large.
It is nice to have someone on the inside share "reality" with us!!!
I just swapped my SIM out from my Nexus 4 to my Nexus 5 and was receiving only HSPA. Not a complete surprise, a short time later I got a text saying my plan needed to be enabled for LTE and to call customer service. I called customer service and the agent told me that at this time AT&T will not activate the Nexus 5 to operate on their LTE Network because it was not sold by AT&T. This is on a regular post paid contract plan.
UPDATE: I called back yesterday evening and asked to speak to a Tier 2 rep, the Tier 1 asked why, told them the situation, they put me on hold, then came back and put me through to a Tier 2 rep who asked my IMEI number and the SIM serial and was then able to provision the phone for LTE.
That's not quite a nice thing. I don't think providers should just tell You not to use a device on their network.
Mine comes in tomorrow and I'm already on an unlimited LTE SOC code for my One X+. Will post results tomorrow evening.
That's really odd. My brother got his N5 today and it gets LTE just fine. It gets a stronger signal than my Note 2 even
Just hang up and speak to another agent.
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so lame
if sprint tries to give me the runaround, i'm cancelling on the spot
Yeah you got an idiot. Call back. It amazes me how people just take what they are told the first time.
This isn't good. I have att
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I tried calling to switch my plan from regular plan to LTE plan and I was told I would need to provide them with the IME for the phone. I may try to call again before I get the Nexus 5 just to see what they say. Worse case scenario, i'll go with T-mobile.
Why do they care what phone you use? And why do they even need to know?
Call center CSR's is a crap shoot. If your data plan in not provisioned for LTE, simply go to your local ATT store and tell them to switch your data plan for LTE along with an LTE sim. If they say you can't, simply ask to speak to someone else who can help you. Just because it wasn't sold by them doesn't mean $hit.
nomisr said:
I tried calling to switch my plan from regular plan to LTE plan and I was told I would need to provide them with the IME for the phone. I may try to call again before I get the Nexus 5 just to see what they say. Worse case scenario, i'll go with T-mobile.
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Ask for Tier 2 tech support. Customer service is more or less useless in a situation like this. Tier 2 will actually be happy to help with something other than people whining about the iOS7 update. Trust me on that one. Worst case, you'll have to get an IMEI off an LTE device. If you run in to that roadblock, PM me and I'll give you an IMEI off one of my spare phones.
greatgoogly said:
I just swapped my SIM out from my Nexus 4 to my Nexus 5 and was receiving only HSPA. Not a complete surprise, a short time later I got a text saying my plan needed to be enabled for LTE and to call customer service. I called customer service and the agent told me that at this time AT&T will not activate the Nexus 5 to operate on their LTE Network because it was not sold by AT&T. This is on a regular post paid contract plan.
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Simply go to an AT&T company store and request a new LTE SIM card, they will give to you for free. I just swapped my sisters out no problem.
Elisha said:
Why do they care what phone you use? And why do they even need to know?
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It's standard crap from regular customer service. They really aren't told about anything other than billing issues and plan changes. Something as mundane to you or me as changing APN settings in an unlocked phone is beyond them. Tech support, on the other hand, was always a great help.
Simply changing the type of SIM card is not what's needed, as 3G, HSPA+, and LTE all have different SOC codes in AT&T's system. Provisioning is what matters in this case.
This happens with every Nexus device since the IMEI's aren't in AT&T's database. For some reason, AT&T needs to have a proper LTE phone IMEI on your account for LTE to work. Just google and find an IMEI (from an eBay auction, etc), call up AT&T and tell them to put that IMEI on your account. Boom, LTE works fine.
Or just go in a store and have a rep do it for you. They will just pull an IMEI off of a display model, load it onto your account and off you go into LTE heaven.
No need to over-react. Just a provisioning issue.
Pulled my Sim out of my N4 plugged it right into the N5 and instantly got LTE, sounds like you need to try a different agent/store.
Yep, I did this with my Nexus 4, although I did have them provision it with "Data Unlimited on 4G for LTE Smartphone Enterprise", so when I get home I should be able to just swap the sim card in =).
I just popped my ATT sim in my n5 and was on LTE by default, you got a rep that doesnt know any better.
Mine works fine on LTE in the mid-Michigan area.
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Yep, I did this with my Nexus 4, although I did have them provision it with "Data Unlimited on 4G for LTE Smartphone Enterprise", so when I get home I should be able to just swap the sim card in =).
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Yeah, call back in later and get your plan amended to the regular Data Unltd LTE, because that Enterprise SOC code (unless you need Enterprise provisioning) costs $45/month.
I'm planning on buying a note 3 at&t branded because I'd be using it on at&ts network but through cricket wireless. Does anyone have any exp in doing this? Does everything work? And LTE?
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I think you'll be one of the first to test this. Cricket use to be cdma style communication whereas at&t is gsm. I believe at&t just merged aio wireless and cricket thus changing cricket from cdma to gsm. If this is true you won't have any problems whatsoever. Just pop in the SIM and it will probably update the apn settings automatically. You can find the apn settings on crickets website and enter them yourself if it doesn't.
Just to clarify I am already using aio/cricket for months on this device. All will work fine if you have been reading up on aio and cricket merger you would know att is killing off crickets cdma line and will be using GSM, op just make sure you let SM-N900A is UNLOCKED and that you get a sim card and you should be fine. As per 4g/4g lte you may as well go elsewhere you will get 4g/4g lte where available but remember AIO/CRICKET is throttled data, so no matter what you will be limited to a lower speed. If you need any help let me know I've been on aio for months (pre merger to the point I have an aio sim but cricket in the top left).
I'm from the Pittsburgh area but now I'm in savanna Georgia and I've had lte almost the whole way..... I'm on cricket wireless also and I've had no problems with them.... I get lte almost everywhere I go
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Why to go with "Criplet" if you can have this with AT$T Note 3 on $30 T-M prepaid (the radio chip is much better than T-M original)
jondoe27 said:
Why to go with "Criplet" if you can have this with AT$T Note 3 on $30 T-M prepaid (the radio chip is much better than T-M original)
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Not to he offensive but tmobile sucks. Tmobile only has coverage (4g/4g lte) in major cities, aio/cricket runs off of AT&T network so you already get better coverage. Speeds may be throttled but I can do everything off it on these speeds, youtube, milk music, pandora no problems. When I had tmobile I was constantly on "edge"/2g, but on aio/cricket 75% of the time I'm on 4g lte and the rest I'm on 4g. OP unless you plan on never leaving a major city, just get aio/cricket.
I was on AIO for about a month, and now am on the merged Cricket with an Unlocked Note 3 (for another month). The 4g LTE data speed is capped at 8mbps. I have no problem streaming whatever I want. I had Verizon and most of the time I only got around that speed anyway. I looked at about every MNVO and provider for a cheaper way to do smartphones, and for 3 smartphones, I am at only $115 a month total with 2.5gb per line. I put out about $700 on a Note 3 and 2 S4 phones, and am saving about $115 a month on what it would cost me with AT&T or Verizon. The coverage for AT&T in my area is excellent. I have also found that the online chat is very quick and helpful with any questions. So far I am very pleased.
AT&T basically threw out Cricket and merely put the brand onto their existing AIO wireless. Given that there are so many more Cricket stores, it makes sense.
I am looking to purchase a note 4 either with T-Mobile, Verizon, or Att Wireless and use it on Cricket Wireless since you guys have done this with the Note 3. Will I be able to pop the Cricket sim card in and let it update by air or will I have to unlock all of these phones for this to work.. Also any suggestions for mms .. 4g LTE..etc will be appreciated..
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Not to he offensive but tmobile sucks. Tmobile only has coverage (4g/4g lte) in major cities, aio/cricket runs off of AT&T network so you already get better coverage. Speeds may be throttled but I can do everything off it on these speeds, youtube, milk music, pandora no problems. When I had tmobile I was constantly on "edge"/2g, but on aio/cricket 75% of the time I'm on 4g lte and the rest I'm on 4g. OP unless you plan on never leaving a major city, just get aio/cricket.
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They have nicer phones
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I am looking to purchase a note 4 either with T-Mobile, Verizon, or Att Wireless and use it on Cricket Wireless since you guys have done this with the Note 3. Will I be able to pop the Cricket sim card in and let it update by air or will I have to unlock all of these phones for this to work.. Also any suggestions for mms .. 4g LTE..etc will be appreciated..
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If you get the N4 AT&T branded phone and plan to use cricket, you just put in SIM. Within minutes, you will get the configuration message, install and you're ready to go. No unlocking needed. With the Verizon and T-Mobile phones, you'll have to unlock. However, with any phone, unless you are on that branded phones service, you will not get OTA to new OS versions. This is not that big of a deal since you are already on xda, you can just go to your forum and more than likely find a flashable. [emoji3]
Im also doing the same now, just got a ATT note 3 to use it on cricket.. i have a note 3 on sprint but i just switched jobs and dont have reception at all, im trying it and if it works i might go to ATT later on, or who knows i might stay at cricket.. is way cheaper and 8mps is good for what i use it.. 55 per month with 10 GB thats a hell of a deal, I use about 8 to 10 on sprint right now
Wow...
Ctfu, yeah, give me a sweet device with crappy coverage... That makes SOOO much sense? AT&T/Cricket/AIO all they way! Funny stuff, keep it comin'!
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They have nicer phones
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Just to clarify I am already using aio/cricket for months on this device. All will work fine if you have been reading up on aio and cricket merger you would know att is killing off crickets cdma line and will be using GSM, op just make sure you let SM-N900A is UNLOCKED and that you get a sim card and you should be fine. As per 4g/4g lte you may as well go elsewhere you will get 4g/4g lte where available but remember AIO/CRICKET is throttled data, so no matter what you will be limited to a lower speed. If you need any help let me know I've been on aio for months (pre merger to the point I have an aio sim but cricket in the top left).
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How does one unlock their phone?
vicdamon1001 said:
I am looking to purchase a note 4 either with T-Mobile, Verizon, or Att Wireless and use it on Cricket Wireless since you guys have done this with the Note 3. Will I be able to pop the Cricket sim card in and let it update by air or will I have to unlock all of these phones for this to work.. Also any suggestions for mms .. 4g LTE..etc will be appreciated..
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I'm not too much of a phone geek, but I just started using my ATT Note 3 on Cricket. My APN settings didn't automatically set with the Cricket SIM, but that was an easy change.
I'd suggest the ATT N4 just because ATT bought Cricket, and they're using the same towers now. All things the same, I think it would be the path of least resistance.
BTW, I was paying $120/mo. for Unlimited everything with a 20% corporate discount with ATT. I was only using an average of 1.8GB per month. That also included a partially subsidized phone every 2 years with a new contract.
Now my bill is $35/mo but I'll have to buy my next phone. I'm only on day 2 of the change, but it's a big deal for me after 14yrs with the same company.
-Kevin
I am currently using a AT&T branded Note 3 on Cricket, switched from Tmobile months ago. No need to unlock a AT&T branded phone or at least I didn't have to with my 3.
You can just put a SIM in and change the APN settings to Cricket's which are available on their website.
I've never had issues with dropped calls or losing data with Cricket. I'm paying 150 a month for 3 lines unlimited calls, texts and 10g data on each line.
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