[Q] About htc vivid and new Sim's - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?

Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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this has been asked before and it seems to have something to do with how new your sim card is...mine didnt have to be changed but provisioned for lte
and some have had to have theirs replaced.. here is the thread that it was it was talked about in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420310
hope you find what you was looking for

Vicpdx18 said:
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.

Aus_Azn said:
The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?

I had that one, they gave me a new SIM at Best Buy.
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Yeah. It doesn't cost anything to get a new SIM. I had to get one for my daughter's phone.
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Vicpdx18 said:
oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
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No, that's a 3G-enabled SIM card. It works on UMTS and HSPA, unlike the 64K SmartChip (the GSM SIM) that I had from when EDGE was the best thing since sliced bread. That's why you never needed to upgrade your SIM when faux-G hit on the Inspire.
When I upgraded to the SYNC (see sig), that was right before Cingular was bought by ATT. I had to get a new SIM at that point, and they gave me the one you describe. I had to get another one when I got the Shine, as the contacts on it had corroded (or something; the card refused to read); that time, I got one that said AT&T on it (it was a palette swap of the Cingular card). I was still forced to upgrade yet again when I got the Vivid.

im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements

jenkem110 said:
im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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APN settings are stored in the ROM, not the SIM. The SIM authenticates you with the APNs that it is provisioned for.
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing

akafarmer said:
I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Your explanation wasn't confusing IMO. Their rationale is just plain stupid.
Gotta love America and its false advertising.
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I see what you mean everyone yea i actually went in the other day to a store and got a new one for LTE even though there is no LTE in Oregon yet. But i do understand because i did use my Cingular Sim in my vivid and calling/texting did work fine just the data did not work so pretty much for faster internet you need a Sim card that can be provisioned for LTE is what im hearing. Also for the newer tech you need a new one

You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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maddie01 said:
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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Well you should post it just for anyone who needs it. I actually got an LTE Sim not to long ago so im good on that front.

Thanks!!!
akafarmer said:
I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; ..........................................................................................
Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Thanks for telling us what many of us probably suspected. I have always thought that most of what we are told is just "marketing hype" until proven otherwise. Much like the burger commercials tha make the subject look soooo tantalizing and huge when in fact it might taste great but is not THAT large.
It is nice to have someone on the inside share "reality" with us!!!

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Can unlocked att htc vivid give 4g speeds on simple mobile network?

Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...
jawad512 said:
Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...
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No sorry as they are a MVNO of t-mobile they use t-mobile bands which is why your only getting edge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mobile Get straight talk. You can get 4G on your vivid with them.
Simple Mobile is a MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) that uses Tmobile's network. Different frequencies for 3G/4G. You can use H2O or Straight Talk.
poncespr said:
Simple Mobile is a MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) that uses Tmobile's network. Different frequencies for 3G/4G. You can use H2O or Straight Talk.
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Nice lol
lmftmf said:
Nice lol
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Sorry. Guess you type faster than me
But vivid supports the frequeny 2100 utms.... Come on guys....tell me something good
jawad512 said:
But vivid supports the frequeny 2100 utms.... Come on guys....tell me something good
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sorry what these guys are saying is correct ...i know for a fact that st8 talk has 4g and its pretty damn good for what it is...
mv networks are highly throttled and you wont get umts service from them cuz thats tmobiles "4g"
randong said:
sorry what these guys are saying is correct ...i know for a fact that st8 talk has 4g and its pretty damn good for what it is...
mv networks are highly throttled and you wont get umts service from them cuz thats tmobiles "4g"
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I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO
So you guys r saying that this problem has nothing to do with s-on s-off?
jawad512 said:
So you guys r saying that this problem has nothing to do with s-on s-off?
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Not at all lol its the modem that's in the device. Think of you trying to speak English to a completely Japanese speaking person. Same concept you cant fix that with any type of software.
lmftmf said:
I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO
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I think you are right. I don't thing ST throttles their data. I am on Straight Talk here in Puerto Rico and I get 7mb down/1mb up. And this is on the pseudo 4G, not LTE. LTE is available in Puerto Rico but in the major cities, not where I live. They have, however, stopped my internet service once, after I did a few downloads and some streaming from pandora on a single day. I know I did not go over 2GB total (3G Watchdog), but I did go over 400MB on a single day. Had to call c/s and listen to a speech about how my data was unlimited but actually not, for about 20 mins to get service back. After that I have kept it under 100MB per day and no problems.
lmftmf said:
I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO
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i dont know how old that phone is but my brother in law has a vivid with st8talk and he in fact gets 4g on it..the go phones sims are made for cheap old phones that are 2g i think..at least thats the way it is here in dallas you cant find a "smartphone" with the go phone line up.. there always the cheapest phones but you can make it work in a smartphone but you will be stuck on the 2g network...str8talk on the other hand has smartphones in their line up...but they are both mvno networks cause thats what you have to put in the apn but att knows what network your using and their not going to let you get the best of them lol with their go phone plan.. str8talk has to "buy" their usage and they offer a better throttle if any
randong said:
i dont know how old that phone is but my brother in law has a vivid with st8talk and he in fact gets 4g on it..the go phones sims are made for cheap old phones that are 2g i think..at least thats the way it is here in dallas you cant find a "smartphone" with the go phone line up.. there always the cheapest phones but you can make it work in a smartphone but you will be stuck on the 2g network...str8talk on the other hand has smartphones in their line up...but they are both mvno networks cause thats what you have to put in the apn but att knows what network your using and their not going to let you get the best of them lol with their go phone plan.. str8talk has to "buy" their usage and they offer a better throttle if any
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You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.
lmftmf said:
You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.
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and thats on go phone?
Yea, its a rip they only give you 500 MB of data for 25$ which on post paid I believe you get 3 GB for the same price. You just have to use the WAP apn and not the PTA apn
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"Dummy" the system?
lmftmf said:
You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.
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How do you "dummy" the system to use the vivid on simple mobile 4g speeds. Here's my dilemma, I have tested the 2 StraightTalk sims, AT&T & T-Mobile on the Vivid and the 4g was way faster on T-mobile sim vs At&t sim. The ST AT&T sim didn't get over 1 mb per second in speed test, whereas the ST TMO sim was much faster almost 2 mb, but a T-mobile phone on either ST TMO or Simple Mobile was faster speeds 5mb or better, so I got rid of the phone and got a HTC sensation. But of course this is a downgrade, I'm definitely going to have to get a better phone soon. I like the AT&T phones better than TMO, but want to get 4g speeds on a AT&T phone using ST TMO sim. So I was curious as if "dummy" the system or different apn settings will allow a AT&T phone pickup ST TMO 4g speeds.
kitathomas said:
How do you "dummy" the system to use the vivid on simple mobile 4g speeds. Here's my dilemma, I have tested the 2 StraightTalk sims, AT&T & T-Mobile on the Vivid and the 4g was way faster on T-mobile sim vs At&t sim. The ST AT&T sim didn't get over 1 mb per second in speed test, whereas the ST TMO sim was much faster almost 2 mb, but a T-mobile phone on either ST TMO or Simple Mobile was faster speeds 5mb or better, so I got rid of the phone and got a HTC sensation. But of course this is a downgrade, I'm definitely going to have to get a better phone soon. I like the AT&T phones better than TMO, but want to get 4g speeds on a AT&T phone using ST TMO sim. So I was curious as if "dummy" the system or different apn settings will allow a AT&T phone pickup ST TMO 4g speeds.
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He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
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mg2195 said:
He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
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i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.
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I think for now, I will just have to stick with T-mobile phone with T-Mobile sim on straight talk, getting some 4g speeds for just $45, only people beating that deal is Metro, and they still have spotty areas. I just think that AT&T has better phones. But I thought about this the other day, with if the fact that the Vivid is a LTE phone vs just regular HSPA+ like my Htc Sensation. Is it possible that the Vivid, HSPA+ doesn't get as fast as speeds on T-Mobile HSPA+ network? I don't know but from what a lot of people are saying the Straight talk At&t 4g coverage is terrible.
mg2195 said:
He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.
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Is it at least possible to simply get internet on it? No 4G or LTE, just mobile data?
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jawad512 said:
Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...
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In case you still need help, here is what I suggest:
For the unlock, use unlockusa.com to get your code. They're the fastest and most reliable on the market.
For the internet, use the following settings for your APN (Credits: http://htcsource.com/2012/08/how-to-sim-unlock-the-htc-vivid-and-add-t-mobiles-access-point/) :
Name: T-Mobile.com
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: wap.voicestream.com
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 261.155.165.50
MMS port: Not Set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC:310
MNC: 260
Authentication type; Not Set
APN type: default
APN enable/disable: Checked
Bearer:Unspecified
Enjoy your cool phone !
I hope that helps. It worked for me, as I was having the same issue.

vivid lte issues

I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
richard head said:
I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
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It is likely that you will have to manually setup the AT&T PTA apn (assuming you are with att as you mentioned Vivid and not Raider). The apn is usually the cause for the problem that you mentioned. Do a search in the forum and it will give you the apn settings that you need.
So I did add the PTA and LTE apps. I'm on stock Rom, ics, AT&T. And no LTE. Still. All I can use is hspa+ .
I'm kind of surprised nobody else has this problem. Stock Rom seems full of bugs to me.
I had this problem before. All I did was set up the at&t apn. Applied then turned on airplane mode then wait a little, turn it off. That didnt work the first time so I restarted. Are you in a LTE area?
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yeah dfw. I.will try doing a battery pull.
Did it work?
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same issue
I actually just bought my Vivid as well from eBay (supposedly new) and it came preloaded with ICS. I wasn't able to get any kind of internet connection with my old Atrix sim even though it showed 4G in the notification bar.
I went to an at&t store and they gave me a new sim and now the internet works but i'm definitely not getting the 4g lte icon or speeds of that nature via speedtest app.
I've tried both airplane mode and pulling the battery, with no results. I'm thinking of doing a hard reset now. *sigh*
richard head said:
I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
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Are you in an area where lte is being offered?
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And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
aballz said:
And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
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Mine came with ICS & showed 4g lte when it is in range. you do need to have an LTE data plan for the apn to work to connect you up with LTE. I figured that one out the hard way. Call them up or browse online for the LTE dataplan of your liking.
aballz said:
And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
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I'm also in the bay area as well, within 2 miles of a LTE signal tower. Did you get a new SIM card when you got your Vivid? Because when I went to an AT&T store to upgrade my phone to Vivid, they had to give me a new SIM, because it was running LTE and that would not work if you have an older SIM, which at the time I had. So make sure you asked them for a new SIM card!
Never mind, just re-read the above post, you got a new SIM card. Sometimes it would happen for any kind of reason, I would just walk back into the AT&T store and ask for a new SIM or new Vivid
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Mine came with ICS & showed 4g lte when it is in range. you do need to have an LTE data plan for the apn to work to connect you up with LTE. I figured that one out the hard way. Call them up or browse online for the LTE dataplan of your liking.
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Yes, make sure you do have LTE specific data plan, as older data plans while work, will not allow you to connect to LTE data.
Make sure they gave you an LTE sim and that switch over the IMEI because my brothers had the same issue

can I use a HSPA sim in Vivid and get LTE?

I tried searching quite a bit but couldn't find the answer, so here it is...
I was going to buy a used Vivid, but when I put my own sim (AT&T GS2 i777) in the Vivid, it has no network connection. The seller said that that might be because AT&T needs to turn on LTE for me before that can be done. However, that doesn't quite make sense to me: I upgraded from iphone 3G to the GS2, and AT&T kept bothering me about not getting 4G even though I have a 4G phone for the first 2 weeks. I brought it back to the store and they straightened it out. My point is, the network worked before that, just not at HSPA speed probably, but it worked. Yet when I put my sim in the Vivid, I get no network connection at all. Is there no fall back?
fishline said:
I tried searching quite a bit but couldn't find the answer, so here it is...
I was going to buy a used Vivid, but when I put my own sim (AT&T GS2 i777) in the Vivid, it has no network connection. The seller said that that might be because AT&T needs to turn on LTE for me before that can be done. However, that doesn't quite make sense to me: I upgraded from iphone 3G to the GS2, and AT&T kept bothering me about not getting 4G even though I have a 4G phone for the first 2 weeks. I brought it back to the store and they straightened it out. My point is, the network worked before that, just not at HSPA speed probably, but it worked. Yet when I put my sim in the Vivid, I get no network connection at all. Is there no fall back?
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It's cause you are using LTE (pta) apns...you have two options
1) use legacy apns...can be found in the stickies "general knowledge" thread
2) call att and tell them you would like to enable LTE on your line...it won't change your plan and you won't get charged extra...everything stays the same except they enable LTE for you (I did this option...so I know from expierence)
The galaxy s2 didn't have real 4g it had hspa+, the vivid has real 4glte
I suggest doin the second option so you can enjoy the speeds of true 4g LTE (I get 23mb down and 8mbs up...)
If after having LTE it still doesn't work then your sim is probably incompatible...just go to the att store and ask for an LTE sim...they will give it to you for free
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[Q] LTE sim card, any benefit?

Hi everyone, my network has recently upgraded and has LTE sim cards available. I know the n7000 is not a LTE device but is there any benefit to using the LTE card? Just curious as it is a microsim and I would need to get a sim adapter to work in the n7000.
Thank you for any insight!
Since the Note doesnt support LTE, i very much doubt the "LTE" sim card will make any difference.
But if they are being offered to you for free, take it. its not gonna make your phone self-destruct or anything
my friend has an lte phone. the intenet is very fast but he said he wouldnt buy again an lte phone because its unnecessary.
well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
if you get an LTE sim card in Note 1, you are cued up to get LTE service when you switch your phone to an LTE phone.
I'm thinking of getting one. $9 for the card, I cue myself up for LTE when I get an LTE capable phone. In the meantime, I still get the same quota of 6gb for the same price but now I have LTE.
kawgirlval69 said:
well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
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What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
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Where are you and what carrier to get 11mbps on HSPA+? Im in UK on 3 and get 8.
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a little story from my country, in Indonesia, if we not in big city, like jakarta, yogyakarta, or bali, it's only get EDGE signal man, it's suck(sorry).. if i can get the HSDPA signal for a while, it really make me happy, and after that or you go to another place or go iside house, you go back to EDGE.......
I wonder how fast LTE is, and network on your country, someday maybe, thanks for reading..
I'm not into lte, at least not now since lte coverage is limited to a few cities in my country (Switzerland) and the prices are still far too high. Maybe in a year or so when the coverage will be better.
Back on topic: No yiu wont benefit from a lte capable sim card if your phone does not support lte.
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howard bamber said:
What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
from the man hiding in your attic....
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well my sim gives the cingular 410 apn stock when sim inserted and it gets 4-6mbps... when i change it to pta settings i get 13-17mbps... it works because att's comps show me having the att ver. when it shows unkown it doesnt go any faster than the 410.... and no i didnt steal a imei... just made a dummy that att comps like and think is a working 717...

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Hi guys I'm new here to xda. Recently, I've just completed rooting my HTC one and s-off. I currently have the eclipticone rom installed but have NO DATA. Once I turn off the wifi I can't do anything on the internet or receive emails. Is there any roms out there for the HTC one with working everything for sprint?
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Maybe it's better to take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2215 ?
deetea48601 said:
Hi guys I'm new here to xda. Recently, I've just completed rooting my HTC one and s-off. I currently have the eclipticone rom installed but have NO DATA. Once I turn off the wifi I can't do anything on the internet or receive emails. Is there any roms out there for the HTC one with working everything for sprint?
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I think I saw a download for Sprint on PAC ROM , but I may be mistaken. I would first look there and then maybe look at the CM ROM. Good luck.
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deetea48601 said:
Hi guys I'm new here to xda. Recently, I've just completed rooting my HTC one and s-off. I currently have the eclipticone rom installed but have NO DATA. Once I turn off the wifi I can't do anything on the internet or receive emails. Is there any roms out there for the HTC one with working everything for sprint?
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You did something wrong. Ecliptic in the Sprint forum is 100% working. As most of the ROMs are.
raptoro07 said:
You did something wrong. Ecliptic in the Sprint forum is 100% working. As most of the ROMs are.
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what could it be?
deetea48601 said:
what could it be?
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pull down your settings and make sure mobile data is turned on
Fixed it
deetea48601 said:
Hi guys I'm new here to xda. Recently, I've just completed rooting my HTC one and s-off. I currently have the eclipticone rom installed but have NO DATA. Once I turn off the wifi I can't do anything on the internet or receive emails. Is there any roms out there for the HTC one with working everything for sprint?
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Good news everyone I've solved the problem. Some how my radio signal was set to LTE/Cdma. Sprint said when set to this it trys to pick up LTE or 4g first before picking up cdma.
deetea48601 said:
Good news everyone I've solved the problem. Some how my radio signal was set to LTE/Cdma. Sprint said when set to this it trys to pick up LTE or 4g first before picking up cdma.
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Would you mind telling me where you are located geographically? I too recently discovered this setting must be set to CDMA only in my area. It's SUPPOSED to connect to 3G when no LTE is available, but for some reason that's not working in my area. And this is a very recent change. About 12 days ago I lost data and it took 3 or 4 days of reboots, reflashes, and phone calls to Sprint before *I* fixed it myself by selecting CDMA only. Sprint never bothered to suggest the change because it's not supposed to matter. I'm baffled by this so it occurred to me you might be in the same area as me.
I'm located in va
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I'm located in va
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Would you mind narrowing it down a bit? Are you in one of the areas served by nTelos? In central and SW VA, there are many areas that do not actually use Sprint towers. Sprint has some sort of partnership with nTelos and I happen to live in one of those areas. I have seen info that indicates nTelos will begin rolling out its 4G network in the latter half of 2013 and it occurred to me that the sudden necessity to set the phone to CDMA Only might be related to the early stages of this roll out. Almost as if they have started the process and are transmitting some sort of partial signal that makes the phone think there is a valid 4G connection, which therefore prevents it from looking for a 3G signal. I may be grasping at straws, but after switching to Sprint 3+ years ago on the promise of "the nations first 4G network" AND paying an extra $10 for the privilege, I would REALLY like to finally have access to something better than Sprint's abysmal service in Charlottesville. :crying:
More info on this subject can be found here:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/3732-ntelos-q1-2013-conference-call/
Your towers may be broadcasting CDMA eHRPD (basically EvDo with an extra layer to help handoff between 4G and 3G). I discovered that with the SIM card in my phone being defective, I could not get data from any towers in my area even on 3G. This was confusing to me because I thought that the SIM card was only for 4G data. When I went to check the network type under the about area in settings, it said CDMA - eHRPD. When I switched my phone to CDMA only, the network type changed to CDMA - EvDo Rev A and my data started to work.
If you are using a phone with a broken SIM this could be the problem. My phone did tell me that the SIM card was not detected though, so I knew it was a problem from the beginning. Your issues could be with the towers in your area instead if your SIM is fine.
Also, there are rumors that Sprint may overbuild into nTelos territory since nTelos was not being obedient to Sprint's demands in rolling out NV at the start. This would be good for me as I travel up central VA once a year or so
kwolf said:
Your towers may be broadcasting CDMA eHRPD (basically EvDo with an extra layer to help handoff between 4G and 3G). I discovered that with the SIM card in my phone being defective, I could not get data from any towers in my area even on 3G. This was confusing to me because I thought that the SIM card was only for 4G data. When I went to check the network type under the about area in settings, it said CDMA - eHRPD. When I switched my phone to CDMA only, the network type changed to CDMA - EvDo Rev A and my data started to work.
If you are using a phone with a broken SIM this could be the problem. My phone did tell me that the SIM card was not detected though, so I knew it was a problem from the beginning. Your issues could be with the towers in your area instead if your SIM is fine.
Also, there are rumors that Sprint may overbuild into nTelos territory since nTelos was not being obedient to Sprint's demands in rolling out NV at the start. This would be good for me as I travel up central VA once a year or so
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Very interesting, thanks for the info! To cloud matters even more, the ROM I'm running right now, a 4.2.2 Sense 5 concoction, doesn't even *HAVE* a CDMA Only option.
And you're right about eHRPD, my phone is reporting that as well. Funny thing is, even without the ability to select CDMA Only, I'm having no problem at all with data now. Oh and one more thing that may or may not matter, I flashed a hacked PRL that forces roaming on VZW, so maybe it only works because I'm not even using nTelos' network at the moment.
All I know is that I want Sprint to get their $hit together in this area so I don't have to jump through hoops just to get reasonable service.

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