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I realise there was a giant mad thread about this that just got closed and I'm not interested in reforming that here. I have a few questions and would like some discussion but not interested in arguments
1) Prices where you are?
Where I live (New Zealand) Nexus One cost about the same as the Galaxy S. I'm just wondering is the Nexus One regarded as a cheaper phone in America or where ever you live (I realise it's not sold anymore, but before they stopped selling it) and when I say cheaper I mean purely money wise, not feel or anything.
I ask this because I've seen the statement before: "Galaxy S is great but it's not worth the extra money from a Nexus" and just wondering if that's how it really is.
2) Gaming?
I'm curious as I see a lot of people here defending their Nexus One's over the Galaxy S and I understand the reasons they give however I have a feeling all the people that prefer their Nexus One's to any Galaxy S series phone don't use their phones for gaming much, if at all. Would this be correct?
I currently own a Nexus One and I have to be honest for gaming it really sucks. I was so excited for Gameboy & Playstation emulators and I can't play any kind of RPG or Action game on them that requires me to push more than 1 button at a time or it registers my fingers all over the place!
My Situation
Due to prices being what I believe to be a little backwards here I can sell my old Nexus One (with a couple of little marks around it, etc, basically it's just used) and buy a BRAND NEW 8GB Galaxy S and it would only cost me a maximum of $100 ($70 US) or if things work out well it'd cost me nothing at all. Which brings me to question 3...
3) Should I 'upgrade'?
I know a lot of people don't consider it an 'upgrade' however for me personally I consider it entirely worth it for the GPU & multitouch alone. I brought my Nexus One excited of the idea of multi touch gaming and am guttered at how virtually any emulated or 3d game performs on my N1 (I was totally unaware of the lack of multi-touch when I brought the phone)
Also I'm interested in any sort of discussion on reasons for/against switching to a Galaxy S but please no NEXUS ONE IS BEST DIE IPHONE FANBOY GALAXY IS CHEAP PLASTIC crap. I love my Nexus but I feel the Galaxy better suits me.
Ok. I was probably one of the ones who was arguing in the other thread but I didnt start it. I got bashed because I said the Galaxy is the better phone.
Anyways Im not going down that road again. Ive got both phones at this moment and if your into gaming I say go to the Galaxy. Is the galaxy a way better phone, no, But what it has is definetely a upgrade. Ive said it before and ill say it again. On the sgs I never have to check my memory worrying about if I got enough room to install a new app, I used to check daily on my n1. I never ever check memory as I still got over 1.2 gigs left and about 120 apps installed. Gaming, Im not to into gaming as Im a 27 year old man, but when I do Id like to be able to play them well, and On the n1 it was a total failure. Toon warz would wig out when you shoot and run at the same time and when you let go of shooting it will still be shooting because of the axis problem. Pinch to zoom alone even in the browser isnt even as close to the SGS.
The super amoled is way better than regular amoled and makes it look like a TFT screen.
Im not gonna go into more about how the sgs beats the n1 cause ive done that enough, so Ill answer your question.
Hell yes I am, the SGS is the better device, by a lot? No, but enough for me to upgrade. The MT alone is enough for a upgrade and you wanna play games? well the SGS has no problem playing toon warz. I need a top device that can multitouch, and the N1 will never, ever be able to play MT games well. Even the old Iphone2g had better MT screen than the n1. I actually laugh at people who think the N1 handles 3d games as well as the SGS. Just not gonna happen. Go on youtube and watch on Android.com I believe the benchmarks vs SGS against droid x, evo and n1, the dude even plays asphalt and even the Video maker says that the SGS blows it all away.
Im not dogging the n1 cause im keeping mine, its a great phone and a great developer phone, but if you want gaming or for movies, the n1 is just not the device for that. The SGS sounds more like its what your looking for, True MT, More responsive for games, bigger screen and Waaaay brighter.
SGS FTW....
No hating on me this time please. The n1 is great, but common, the SGS out Specs it in almost all departments.
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
2) The GalaxyS has a getter GPU then the Nexus One (and most of the snapdragon phones to be fair) so the GalaxyS would most definitely play games better then the Nexus One.
3) It appears that 3D gaming is important to you, and if thats what you want the the GalxS phones should work great for you. Also the CPU is a smidgin' better on the GalxS then on the Nexus.
Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
I don't for a second believe Samsung will put the requisite priority on upgrading the OS to the latest Android. I think it will get upgraded, unlike the Behold II, but I don't think it'll happen for MONTHS after phones like the N1. Also, Touchwiz is hideous and changing to ADW or LP doesn't help with the cartoonish icons.
That being said, I AM jealous of the screen, processor, and multitouch sensor... just not enough to put myself into what I know will be a very frustrating position in a few months.
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Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
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I see what you're saying and I considered this as well however with my situation that I mentioned in the OP I currently have the opportunity to move to a Galaxy S with little or no cost, however when it comes to these next generation devices coming out later this year my Nexus will be worth a lot less and it will cost a lot more to upgrade to them.
I probably will buy a new device about mid way through next year and I will be willing to put more money into one then, however I don't want to (or mainly my girlfriend doesn't want me to ) put another few hundred into a phone in a few months time.
LevitateJay said:
That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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Pinch to peak is horrible on the n1. Funny thing is they added that while testing it on the n1. I guess they assumed no more clearpad 2000.
I love mt gestures as well. Feels futuristic.
Blueman101 said:
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
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I believe phones work different over there how you buy them on contract and get them cheaper etc.
Here you just buy whatever phone and put a sim card in it, be it 'pre-pay' or 'on account'. So all phones are 'unlocked'
Looking on Amazon Galaxy S phones are listed for 670 USD?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Slot-International-Warranty/dp/B003U2T57E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283354829&sr=8-1
i am the owner of a nexus one. nearly all my phones have been from htc. i love the htc brand because of the community(xda). it is a fact everybody has to agree. an example the i5700 (comparable to the hero) but u can take a look yourself who got the better development... xperia x10 ...excellent hardware but no community support and they merely got root.
Is it an upgrade?
Hmmmm...arguable. Hardware- absolutely. the samsung i9000 is definetely an upgrade in terms of hardware but u have to keep in mind that it is 7 months newer than n1. both phones have their goods and bads. no phone is perfect. I said arguable because i am sure software wise that n1 is and will be superior. Most of us here like to flash roms, change builds..... this makes the difference (as i stated in the beginning).i do not think i9000 will get the support of this community. Just take a look at how many custom roms are present for i9000. Also at the end of the year , n1(google's developers phone) will definetely be gettting the gingerbread whereas the i9000 will be stuck on 2.2. remember that i9000 already got the upgrade from 2.1 to froyo ; so 2 upgrades for a phone is less likely. this is the policy of phones companies, instead of pushing an upgrade for the phone, they will release a new phone with gingerbread .
Is it worth?
i wont be upgrading the n1 until the 2gz or dualcore processors are out but It depends on u and ur means. Phones nowadays do not reign as a flsgship more than 3-4 months , maybe less. eg... desire hd will be out soon, then in Q2 2011, samsung is releasing a phone with 2gz processor with 1gb memory, ... android 4.0. If you have the money, ... ur choice.
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S
deeren said:
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
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I'm not entirely about gaming and I couldn't stand to buy an iPhone, many things about it disgust me. Such as a homescreen that is only an app draw!? How they deny flash, how they block countless applications, how I have to run iTunes to do anything.. argh I could go on forever. So iPhone is not for me, I love Android. As I said before however if it came down to it I think I like live backgrounds, multitouch gestures, large screens more than I like the development side... Very tough choice though.
[Q] Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S
Also on another note I believe Galaxy S series is soon going to become a Cyanogen Mod supported device which pretty much means it'll get all the development I need am I right in assuming this??
I mean, hell it even brought 2.2 to the G1! So I can assume if Cyanogen does a version 7 for 3.0 and Galaxy S is a supported device that I could eventually see 3.0 through Cyanogen Mod if Samsung never decided to do an update?
This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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haha yeah I saw that video the other day. The GPU is amazing in the Galaxy S phones, definitely in a league of its own at the moment.
If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
Galaxy TAB. Prob run same as the Galaxy S. Why go with 4" when you can have 7" screen. Wait and see tomorrow what the specs are going to be. Keep your n1 and wait for the TAB i say. I bought a captivate. Surely a great phone. I got frustrated with the development on the Captivate. I figured it will be that way. CM will be out but who knows when it will be released no word. I bet when a official froyo will be released they will release the CM6 as well. Gives them some time to work on it. If you really want to game and watch movie do it on a bigger screen. Why on a 4" screen. My n1 will hold up to what i need to do to survive a day without any laggs, glitch or whateva i throw at it. It runs like a champ. N1 will only be replaced by N1. Yeah not good for game but it will do everything else. So if you looking for a gamer type of phone, SGS is good to go but you will be without much development. Plus even with CM, i don't see ginerbread running on the SGS. My 2 cents.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Agreed!!!!! all galaxy s phones are not the same!
Also another point to be noted is that number of phones sold is not necessarily directly proportional to the development ...
e.g, 1. i guess that (like they say) nexus one is a flop in sales but however has had enormous activity in the development section.
2. Motorola milestone/droid had an enormous success in sales(also sold millions). but did it have the kind of development we are used to???
It all comes to whether Samsung will improve their security on the bootloader bla bla bla on their froyo upgrade. and depends whether the quality chefs are shifting to the sgs or not.
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Correct, but they will be easy to cross mod since most the files and codes are alike, yes they will require different Roms and etc, but if the epic 4g can do something chances are the others can with a slightly different way.
Hey Guys, iam from germany and today i bought a HD7 with WP7. my question ist... is it possible to change the operationsystem from Windows to andriod?
and if yes, could someone get me a link?
Puzzyfloor said:
Hey Guys, iam from germany and today i bought a HD7 with WP7. my question ist... is it possible to change the operationsystem from Windows to andriod?
and if yes, could someone get me a link?
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Oh ffs, you must be joking right? Just go and buy the Desire HD if you want android.
thats what i was thinking. why would you buy an HD7 with the intention of putting android onto it, when you could have just bought the Desire HD.
Oh FFS, here we go again
guys stop being so mean, give him the link so he can download android.exe
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Hey Guys, iam from germany and today i bought a HD7 with WP7. my question ist... is it possible to change the operationsystem from Windows to andriod?
and if yes, could someone get me a link?
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Just ignore the kids. It is not possible to do that, yet until maybe when the bootloader is cracked
Guys I just brought my HD7 can you send me the link to WP8?*
*sorry had to do that, still wetting myself with laughter at the moment. Putting aside the fact that the phone is just 10 days old and has no way of upgrading it's native OS at this moment in time why would anyone want Android on the HD7? There are already perfectly good phones with the same spec that already have Android as the native OS.
It's a bit like buying a car and expecting it to FLY me to Spain.
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Guys I just brought my HD7 can you send me the link to WP8?*
*sorry had to do that, still wetting myself with laughter at the moment. Putting aside the fact that the phone is just 10 days old and has no way of upgrading it's native OS at this moment in time why would anyone want Android on the HD7? There are already perfectly good phones with the same spec that already have Android as the native OS.
It's a bit like buying a car and expecting it to FLY me to Spain.
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+1 on this one.
Why would anyone want to do that. Just read this comparison http://www.neowin.net/news/wp7-vs-android---part-three-features-galore and enjoy WP7 coz you aint getting anything better
he is the top contender for the dumbest award of the year..... its like you but a brand new ferrari and ask to change to a Lambo engine...
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+1 on this one.
Why would anyone want to do that. Just read this comparison http://www.neowin.net/news/wp7-vs-android---part-three-features-galore and enjoy WP7 coz you aint getting anything better
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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so my friend if the OS on your phone is the best, please help your dumb buddy to port it to the HD7 please...
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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What's with the hostility?
I'm a massive android fan, always have been, always will be. I had the G1 when it was first released here in the UK and I've convinced many people to take the jump to Android.
I now have a HD7, I wanted to try something new (yes I've tried iOS before and hate it). Android isn't "much, much better" infact there are a lot of things that WP7 does 1000x better than Android. Ofc there are things missing and there are also things that Android does better but they're pretty equal imo. Infact, Personally I actually prefer Windows Phone 7.
Before you call me a "dumbass" like you did to the previous person, may I point out that you're talking to someone who is currently perusing a Computer Science degree at one of the best Universities in the UK and has had Android for exactly 2 years today.
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Just to add, back to the OP. It's not possible to "install" android atm. It might be in the future though we'll never know.
And for people calling him stupid, it does sort of seem stupid at first glance but think about it this way:
Android = Open Source
WP7 = Closed Source
WP7 will therefore never be on an Android handset.
It may be possible to one day port Android over to WP7 handsets due to it being Open Source.
So theoretically, buying the HD7 over the Desire HD could be getting you a device capable of running 2 OSs, we're just too early in the lifecycle of the OS to even think about porting Android yet.
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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OK, so copy and past and multi tasking are not there yet, Flash? When did Flash come as part of Android? You can add it after, which again is going to happen to WP7 in the future.
Before slating someone else, maybe at least have half and argument to back it up.
And as for the original OP, it IS a silly question, the OP obviously has some knowledge of multiple operationg systems to be able to ask that question and not as naive as people may think. Some people are so hooked on having the latest and greatest, shiniest shiny thing, that they already want to replace a 10 day old OS!
I never realised the foot-and-mouth syndrome was still out there.
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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Then why the heck would the OP buy an HD7 in the first place???!!!!
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That review in your link is a WP7 ad, dumbass. What about lack of multitasking? Lack of copy/paste? A terrible browser? Lack of flash? WP7 is clearly not ready for prime time. Anyone with half a brain would know that Android is much, much better in its current iteration.
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I love that you call someone else a dumbass then put forward these over used and dry arguments. It is so bad when people have to try and pick holes with half hearted points.
First multitasking seems to be a big buz word and on a phone is a lit of hype over nothing. For 90% of smartphone users it adds nothing to the expirience but extream battery drain. All I seemed to do whith my desire is close programs wasting away in the background.
Flash and copy and paste will be here within a very short time a d tbh I am thankfull tha MS has given us wp7 now with the promise then make me wait longer for it to be out, if you can't live without it till the update then just wait for it before buying as you would of dond if they held it back till then anyway
And last the browser that at first glance looks like android wins and tbh it is so much better to use BUT it is a huge memory drain and that linked with multitasking means if you move to a diff app while on the wrong site and when you come to make a call, the thing a phone is for, you will have no power to do so.
Wp7 is not perfect but j feel people see Microsoft and jump on the it must be rubbish bandwagon. Wp7 is a real revolution in phone os and I for one am glad that I sold my desire to get one the benefits far outweigh the small to be fixed holes.
I am using Samsung Wave S8500, it is a great phone but the only drawback is Applications and Games of Bada, buying option is not available in my country Pakistan, been using wavespoofer to make thing work but now after upgrading cant use the spoof method too.
So i am thinking of switching to Samsung Galaxy S, after reading reviews and comments the only drawback is the lack of LED Flash with Camera and it lags a lot and the black screen issue, so i am really confused should i buy this or should i buy some other phone like HTC Desire, please guide me.
Thanks.
The shortest way to answer this is that I myself had a samsung wave n i thought it was a brilliant phone but then i switched to the Galaxy s and i don't regret it. It was a brilliant decision when i decided to get the galaxy s. So go for it
There's a lot to do with the phone in the development section to fix the lag but make sure u understand everything before doing anything.
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SGS is still the best out there, and lack of flash for the camera is easely resolved with the "night mode" (Google it for sample pictures).
But then, within 6 months, it'll be overtaken by all the dual core phones.
In a few days next gen galaxy s is going to be launched.. And the dual core generation is going to take over everywhere.. Htc, samsung, moto.. Etc..
Beside this.. I ll never recommend a samsung galaxy s.. Full of issues.. If u are buying a new phone then y should u look for after market solutions like lag fix etc.. That kills ur warranty too.. I had a htc desire n I miss it.. Htc is the way if u need android.. Smooth UI.. QUICKER updates.. Dont go with gimmicks like super amoled etc.. Whats the point if u keep looking at a black screen every now n then..
Buy htc desire hd or htc desire n be happy.
Dont buy SGS.. Personal experience.. Its laggy.. Touchwiz sucks in front of htc sense..
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Really speaking buy a phone which dont have option of customization.
Because you will save lots of your quality time.
Buy iphone 4 or any windows phone 7.
Because this is my experience with sgs I was an end user
I wanted to buy Omnia 7 but its was not available in my country or any other wp7 and Iphone 4 was too costly.
And still omnia 7 is not available in my country you (sad samsung)
So in the end I bought SGS. And was hopping that it will get wp7. I thought this because news are comming like this that HD2 will get wp7 and I saw some vidoes of HD2 with wp7 on youtube
When I got sgs I have only adhoc wifi connection in my house with my pc. Adhoc mode which is the basic wifi feature dose not supported by sgs or android. which wasted my 2 days for fixing that basic feature. because for that I have to learn how to root what is download mode what is superuser and bla bla bla.(You really suck! SGS or Android I dont know whos fault SGS or Android).
Then I started search for "wp7 for SGS" and I came to XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM
I wish I would never came here. but I came.
And I found lagfix, custom roms, rooting and etc... for sgs (More scary things and time wasting) not thats all
SGS dose not support wpa2-enterprise wifi security feature. Because of this I cant use internet of my isp on my SGS, no dedicated cam button (At buying time I thought it will be ok but I was wrong dedicated cam button must req and not having flash is still ok) etc.
My experience with SGS and Android is it still incomplete not stable but it is inovative. But inovation will copied here and there(android copied base of Iphone and windows phone inovation, now iphone and wp7 will copy android inovation)
So if you are an end user buy Iphone or any WP7.
I like Omnia 7.
yepp, i think currently it is really one of the best android phones. though you should know new (dual core) models will be coming within months so if it's not urgent, strong hardware is important and you and you have money, maybe you should wait a bit.
rohit.sadhwani said:
In a few days next gen galaxy s is going to be launched.. And the dual core generation is going to take over everywhere.. Htc, samsung, moto.. Etc..
Beside this.. I ll never recommend a samsung galaxy s.. Full of issues.. If u are buying a new phone then y should u look for after market solutions like lag fix etc.. That kills ur warranty too.. I had a htc desire n I miss it.. Htc is the way if u need android.. Smooth UI.. QUICKER updates.. Dont go with gimmicks like super amoled etc.. Whats the point if u keep looking at a black screen every now n then..
Buy htc desire hd or htc desire n be happy.
Dont buy SGS.. Personal experience.. Its laggy.. Touchwiz sucks in front of htc sense..
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If your looking for a high end android device you will most certainly come across galaxy s devices. The super amoled screen isn't a gimmick, its amazing. Aside from the I4, I don't think you can beat the display. Who looks at a black screen now and again? If your referring to the phone being in sleep mode before turning it on, then yes, there is a brief moment where the screen is black but I wouldn't say people are actually looking at that screen. (What's to look at? )
..just sayin;-)
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Well
its quite simple coz its acc to what u want
if u want the thing to just work then never ever go to near any andriod device coz u have to spend time with it . buy iphone or wp7.
or if u love to play with things then sgs is good to go still i recommend to w8 for dual core phones
either way its ur way what u expect from a phone
I am a 5 month galaxy user and I can tell you: i doesn't worth to buy one. Buy a HTC or motorola. I started to hate samsung. Mine has a graphics problem that I can't figure out wht's it's source.... I will try to sell it. Hopefully I will be able to sell it at a reasonable price.
If you are going to root and flash a custom rom YES
If you don't wanna do that NO
That simple
If you enjoy modding and want TV-out buy SGS.
If you enjoy modding but don't want TV-Out buy HTC.
If you want games, buy IPhone.
If you want large tiles on your home screen buy WP7 (or mod your android using Desktop Visualizer)
If you want to take quality pics and vids buy Nokia N8.
Do we really need Dual Cores on our phones?
I think it's worth the buy. It does break your warranty to have lag fix, but who doesn't know how to get around that. Just do recovery mode (i swear it's super easy to do) and reformat everything. The phone is super fast, the bugs are a problem but it's fixed after rooting and lagfix. Although right now it's better to buy the galaxy 2 that's coming out soon, that'll probably be better for your price as the dual cores galaxy s will probably be the same price. Try and go to places and see if they have a display of the product and try it out for yourself.
The Motorola Atrix looks decent...should be out by March or so.
SGS is a decent phone in my opinion. If you can get one for a good price and one with the latest firmware / hardware upgrades so you don't have to deal with all this lag and bricking issues, I would.
If you want decent GPS - no (design flaw/constraint)
If you want decent audio - no (samsh!t fcked up the audio)
If you want decent mic for recording sound even in videos and phone conversations - no (overly sensitive, single mic)
If you want decent fluid like display - no (can see individual pixels on sgs horrible)
If you want decent material case - no (sgs mostly, if not all plastic)
Wait for different handset, perhaps the newer models with nvidia tegra 2, once you see what the battery life is like for dual core phones.
Good luck.
i think u should wait for samsung infuse 4g
Hi there
- a lot of you guys saying that the sgs is one of the best phones - yes it is one of the best android phones - the screen is brilliant and android is cool.
i bought it on the 24th of june 2010 - it was the second day they sold it in germany ^^ without custom firmware and lagfixes it wouldnt be useful for me... if you use it only for making phone calls and having a few internet apps installed everything is fine - but more than 30 apps... you need a lagfix or android 2.2.1...
If i would like to have a new phone - i would wait until march when the LG Speed is announced. this is the next top-phone i think.
if it doesnt matter what system you wanna use... iphone... its reliable - really. but i dont like apple :|
Android is great!
cheers
With Black screen I meant the lag which phone faces.. The black screen appears on numerous occasions going from one random option to the other.. Its the lag..
We know that there are fixes for most of the sgs issues.. But it feels terrible to fix a new phone we bought, when there are phones in the market which do not require such fixes..
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I am using Samsung Wave S8500, it is a great phone but the only drawback is Applications and Games of Bada, buying option is not available in my country Pakistan, been using wavespoofer to make thing work but now after upgrading cant use the spoof method too.
So i am thinking of switching to Samsung Galaxy S, after reading reviews and comments the only drawback is the lack of LED Flash with Camera and it lags a lot and the black screen issue, so i am really confused should i buy this or should i buy some other phone like HTC Desire, please guide me.
Thanks.
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I have the galaxy S and my wife has the wave.... the wave is terrible compared to the Galaxy S..... so in Short Yes buy one you won't be disappointed. Sell your wave or try and find a way to install Android on it.
It still is kinda confusing, for sure i will change my Wave to some other device, may be i should wait for Galaxy S 2 i think they are announcing it on 13th Feb or LG Optimus X2 it looks cool too but they forgot the put Radio on it.
I usually play games, watch videos and play with the camera taking picutres making videos, not a fan of programming and stuff, Galaxy S 2 and Optimus 2X both look cool, lets see how dual core thing effects the industry.
Good decision.. Wait for dual core machinery to hit the shelves.. Not only it will give u more options but it will also bring down the price of current devices..
I am seriously recommending u to not to buy a samsung phone.. Be it whatever android.. The entire galaxy s line suffered the delay in upgrade to froyo.. Some have still not received.. N on the other hand samsung released other new devices with 2.2 out of the box..
They just want to sell new phones.. Older phones they just sell and forget..
Htc released a froyo update for legend which is one of the initial droids.. This shows how dedicated are these companies for their customers..
I m a samsung user and hate it.. I was a htc user and I miss it..
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hi,
I have just brought the 7inch samsung tablet. Its still on 2.1 as KIERS tells me i have the lastest fireware.... Are there any custom roms out.?
Thanks
shabz1309 said:
hi,
I have just brought the 7inch samsung tablet. Its still on 2.1 as KIERS tells me i have the lastest fireware.... Are there any custom roms out.?
Thanks
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+1, I believe so, and they are on the DEV forum, but it looks like the roms are specific to the version of tab you got!!
So be very careful, the WIFI only tabs are "P1010" so make sure you the posts/external websites lnked on the forum of the ROM you are considering to ensure that it works on P1010.
As I almost started the install OVERCOME when I checked the external site, its states specifically not for WIfI Only.
But keep looking.
Good luck
I have a tab wifi -p1010 ,it was a present and it stays on dust because is no usefull.Samsung just wanted to sell to stupids people like us ,their interest are just money,so we will have no updates to gingerbread,honeycomb,etc...I saw in tab development a lot of custom ROM and i am sure that is possible to put in our ,,cheap tab,, a custom rom,but,as long our place is just in in Q&A section,as long we don.t talk with devs ,we will not succed.I am pretty sure that samsung sold a lot of wifi tab so, we should find a way that someone (devs/chefs) see us..
ANY SUGGESTION?
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ANY SUGGESTION?
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Yes. Buy yourself a proper tab. I will. And it will not be Samsung again.....
having search high and low there seems to be nothing for this tablet - ;o(
I do not understand why this can't be ported - it is on the same TI OMAP SOC that other gingerbread devices use.
See my technical question about this posted at this URL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357414
It can be ported, but devs does't bother to do it. They prefer new shiny superduper tabs, our is packed with old HW.
Well shoot, lets offer them some kind of gift then. Since it should be a matter of removing cell modem and sim drivers, shouldn't be too much work right?
I am willing to kick up 20$ to the dev group for a CM7 or GB update. Any other P1010 owner's want to chip in to such a fund?
Any dev's interested in some holiday bucks?
I would throw in £10 for a gb/cm port
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I would throw in $10 for ics ported. About time for a bounty thread.
20 euro from my part for any custom rom with gingerbread
20$ at least from me. Wife bought this for me last year, feel bad cause I get hardly any use out of it now :/ would love to have some new life breathed into it.
U$S 30 from me. GB at least ! ! !....
i did not want to open a new thread so here are some excitment news that i have written in the third page of this thread:
"well i gues it will be easy for me not to buy a samsung phone ever again.
motorola and intel sign on a long term agreement and medfield really kicking ARM a** at least in the few benchmarks that were published and with lower consumption according to the benchmarks.
so my next phone will be a motorola phone with intel inside it.
goodbye samsung and yours sh*tty support.
i hope many of you will do the same as me. show them the power of the customers. i hope samsung will lose all their customers to motorola!!!!!!!!!!!"
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months, i dont care about crappy face recognitaion in 2.3.6 i want hardware acceleration.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
cry cry cry
If you think you're going to be better off with a Windows Phone, think twice:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ew-maintenance-release-for-windows-phone.aspx
you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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fact is, Samsung is a company that is only interesed in your money, just like all other companies out there. They're not a charity organisation. They want you to buy their phones.
the SGS has gotten 2 major firmware updates. eclair to froyo and froyo to gingerbread. There's not alot of phones out there that have gotten the same luck.
Of course it would be nice to receive an ICS updates but frankly i don't care. There's already a good working unofficial ICS rom and official Gingerbread rom does it's job more than pleasant.
I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
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Do tell me where I get support for my original iPhone (2g) so I can up date the thing to v4 or even v5 iOS.
At the end of the day the SGS is near 2 years old and seeing as the SGS3 is around the corner I would consider the SGS old!
Anycase there is a ICS ROM for the SGS, just used that and be happy!
onecosmic and cyanogen can not fix the camera and other minor things without the drivers from samsung and i have 2.3 almost 6 months. so no i dont consider one year of updates to be that good. you want your phone, to be updated for a year and then throwit to the garbage?.
one year of updates for a phone who sold millions world wide is not enough and because of people like you it will coninue.
i tried 20 different roms so dont try to sell me that i can try onecosmic rom. the camera and other minor things not working correctly i am on cyanogen mod and i am ont happy with the camera and the battery life, tv out is not working and other minor bugs.
edit: not that i have any bad things to say about onecosmic and cm7 developers i know it is not their fault, they dont have the drivers. so thanks to all the developers out there for their best efforts.
im on 2.3.6... why dont you flash? its smooth as ever. Im happy for what it is. Do yourself a favour and get the value pack rom
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@OP:
That's good for all of us, thanks for a news.
It (eventually) would result that one guy, who is unable to read stickies and apply forum rules will stop spam in this thread...
satoto01 said:
I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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In danger of being flamed as fanboi,
but most of the hardware in "aJphaun" come from company in dispute - Samsung
Have a nICE CREAMy day in a SANDWICH
Thx for reading, press THANKS if u like
It's funny how people count the Eclair to Froyo update as a point for Samsung when the phone was released after Froyo came out, Samsung was just damn late.
I got no problems with samsung. after i found this site i've loved the phone Must thank all the hard working people who just got the intrest to release all kinds of mods etc. they make the phone worth having
I'm usimg Hacksung band the camera works no with zoom. Not as good as samsung camera but its geting there.
Thanks TO alla the developers.
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I've had my sgs for 18+ months now and have had 2 major updates, along with about 400 minor ones instigated myself
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I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
Luiwammes said:
I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
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Fyi, they're not saying it cant run ics, they're saying it cant run ICS with TouchWiz.
This is exactly why I sold my Sgs 6 months ago!
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To be honest i'd be happy with a good Gingerbread (stock), I don't think it's been as good as the last Froyo 2.2.1 update, which suddenly made the phone work properly.
I think its a shame that there isn't at least a two year life span (a lot of phone contracts are 24 months) in terms of updates, but I also understand this technology is probably one of the fastest moving.
st379 said:
not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months !!!!!!!! i dont care about crappy face recognitaion.
android is worst than ios, at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
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Samsung didn't design ALL components in the SGS, they have bought many from THIRD party (like audio part from Wolfson, etc. etc.). You have open source drivers for SOME devices and many of chip-makers sell Chips + Closed drivers with limited support. It's not the Samsung's fault if they don't want release drivers, Samsung use only BINARY drivers for some devices ! Blame some *****ng chip-maker firms. I used to fight a lot with Adaptec to have some source code to make working some $500 Hardware Raid card for FreeBSD some years ago, many chip-maker are VERY reluctant to give drivers code, and it's not a new story in Linux world.
Windows and Intel will make better ? Are you serious or just blind ? Why Vista was so "unstable" in his debut ? Drivers, Drivers and Drivers.. like Android. iOS ? Another joke ? Apple use ONE hardware and chip-makers are forced to give the code (or they're excluded from Apple, so they give all Apple want), iPhone is a very well sell and Apple is one of the richest firm in the world, chip-makers aren't totally stupid if they want to sell million and million of their chips.
And for your information : First ROM for SGS are build in March 2010, latest is Dec 2011, what a poor support..
I can see Samsung absolutely ****ting themselves reading the op. Dumb thread.
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
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This is, IMHO, the main Android drawback.
Android is not really "open". It's a marketing hype.
Producers like Samsung make heavy "modifications" to their phones and do not relase their drivers.
We're lucky that SGS has an hardware similar to the Nexus S, otherwise I doubt we could have a stable ICS porting for our phone.
My next phone, if I'll chose again Android, will be a Google Experience One.
Bye.