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Hi!
Somethig strange just happend... Grab my Samsung Galaxy Tab and noticed, that wifi was off... so i turned it on... it said scanning... and after 5 or 8 seconds wifi turned off by itself... tried again... turned off again...
so...
rebooting - no help...
what's going on??? help?
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ok, factory reset helped.... but i'm still wondering.... was it a virus... does anyone know sth about it??
The word "virus" isn't really applicable to Android devices. If used in VERY broad terms it almost applies, but even then it's a stretch.
There are programs that do malicious things out there, and the best thing you can do to avoid that is check the permissions on everything you download.
I doubt it would have been a virus. There are a lot of other explanations. But, for peace of mind, search the market for AVG and download the free version. Personally, I think it is more often than not a source of false positives, but as I said, it can provide some peace of mind as well
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There are a lot of other explanations.
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Like...? Give me some ideas, please.
Well, I will say from the outset that I am not an expert at the technical details when it comes to such things. I would imagine that there was either some kind of corruption with the configuration files, or possibly with the OS itself. I have seen certain devices that occasionally reboot when power to WiFi is toggled on, for example. As to what caused it, there are really far too many possibilities to be able to say. I think that it would be difficult to get a virus from any of the app markets, most questionable stuff gets flagged. And of course you have the ability to see what these apps have access to. So perhaps it was an app that you allow network access to that screwed up the configuration through an error. Installing stuff that is non-market and of questionable repute could very well get you something malicious though.
Anyway, my original suggestion was going to be to try wiping all of the associated configurations and clearing the cache. But, you had already posted that you had it sorted out, so I didn't bother.
I am sure there are more informed people who could shed more precise light on the matter, these were just my ideas.
This does "just happen" sometimes. Usually, forgetting the connection information and re-entering it does the trick. If that doesn't then a hard reset (as you've already discovered) is the next best thing.
The technical term for what happened is "glitch".
At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
I've found that if I do not reboot my phone at least once a day I get random problems like that.
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At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
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I don't reboot my phone all that often. I've never seen it lose ALL data connection capability tho...
A regular power cycle doesn't hurt tho...
Can this be the issue?
I'm experiencing the same thing, but mainly when I'm connected to 3G. My phone shows it has full bars and 3G or 4G availability but I find 60% of the time my phone has little to no data going to my phone, so none of my apps or news feeds get updated or they get updated slowly. When I'm on wifi the phone works flawlessly.
I read this article,
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/hack-fixes-mms-on-unlocked-samsung-wp7-handsets
One of the odder quirks of Windows Phone 7 to appear since the platform's launch has been the absence of Automatic Data Configuration for users who swap SIM chips and network-hop with their unlocked handsets.
ADC should let the phone communicate with the network it's connected to in order to retrieve all the settings it needs in order to use the network's services. Samsung defended disabling ADC by saying that its phones are intended to only be used with a specific carrier
Now I know this is talking about MMS, but does anyone think it's related to 3G connectivity from a different service provider?
i am having the same problem, it started 2 days ago after i unlocked my phone, at&t gave me the unlock code, i had to enable hot spot & de brand by loading a file, i don't have problem with WiFi just 4G, it will be fixed if i re start the phone.
problem for me with wifi+3G
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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mlekas said:
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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I have the EXACT same issue as you state here. The problem has existed since day one with this phone. I updated through to 8107 and the issues still exist.
So now for some interesting/good news... my dad works for a large company that has direct access to AT&T Wireless Engineers, so he got in contact with an an engineer and explained this issue as both him and I experience the same issues. The engineer was able to get a hold of a Samsung Focus S and experienced the same problems for himself. He then escalated the issue directly to Samsung who in-turn escalated this to Microsoft. Apparently Microsoft claimed the issue was theirs and they are now working on an update to rectify the problem. Samsung also apparently has some updates that they were going to push but have since held off on pushing them until Microsoft has the fix for this data issue fixed.
I've been so frustrated by these issues and the lack of information regarding them that I thought you might be interested in knowing that Samsung, Microsoft, and AT&T ARE working to get the problem resolved.
Wow! This is really great news as I am having the exact same problem. I usually just on and back off Airplane mode and that fixes it, but its a real hassle. So, the word is that Samsung is, possibly, combining all the current issues like this data, the extra settings/quirky display, and the 8107/disappearing keyboard all in to one?
matt
The AT&T engineer didn't say what was going to be included in the Samsung update, just that Samsung was holding off on releasing the update until after Microsoft supplied a fix for the data issues. Hopefully Samsung's update fixes all of the Focus S quirks (data issues, delayed keyboard sounds, quirky display/auto brightness) in one shot.
Thanks for posting this, i feel better that Microsoft & Samsung are working on fixing this issue.
Any updates/news about this specific issue? I have the exact issue with my Focus S since I got my phone
I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
Keep this post updated
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I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
Keep this post updated
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Am I mistaken...but the majority of people posting in this thread, have the problem after installing something non standard?
8107 is not released by Samsung/AT&T, so the possibility that an associated file is not included, does exist.
Was the hotspot patch and official release, or was it intended for sideload or something?
I'm just curious. I had the luxary to have my Dell Venue Pro sent to Microsoft and examined by the Test and OEM team for WP. This was several months ago. They were able to determine I had used the force update trick to update my Device. From pieces of various emails, I was able determine the update included multiple files. The multiple files consisted of Device specific instructions and additional files needed for the that operator, in addition to the Update provided by MS.
If this is the case, forcing an update into place may indeed load the update, but it might not include other needed files.
Now, I'm not an expert, a dev or anything else important. I cannot validate that what I said is true. But, i do have the benefit of having my older device looked at by MS several months ago. This does not prove 2+2=4. But it does raise enough doubt in my mind that I won't be foruce updating my devices until alot more people get a look at this methodology and perhaps come up with some answers, or at least explanations.
Does the internet connection issue appear only after the forced 8107 update?
I had been using a Chevron-unlocked Samsung Focus S on the 7720 and had experienced no issues. Just updated to 8107 following Heathcliff74's method so I hope this issue doesn't start to plague me.
Also, has anyone had success with voluptuary's wifi internet connection sharing and interop-unlock method? I am hesitant to apply that hack exactly because of worries about issues with internet...
I'm a big chicken. I am just going to wait for AT&T to release the update. I just have this funny feeling that there's a little something extra included with the at&t update. I've done plenty of customizing over the years, but just have a feeling about this. I do wish they would step on it, though.
matt
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for a camera firmware upgrade.....
armodons said:
Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for to get a camera firmware upgrade.....
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when I said extra, I meant a focus s specific file that might act as a customization or configuration file. I don't think a block file of any sort might be included. But I do know that at&t is proprietary enough to want a unique identifier of some sort. In Gen 1, at&t had special builds just for them, turning on or off features. I know the hd7 had a specific 'config' type file, as did the venue pro. Would I call these extra files? No. I would call them required files. Build 8107 was a single build for WP. Do you think that all phones with mango had the same needs, samex files, same configs? Or is it possible that a related file acted as a config or control.
I'm not smart enough to know for sure. My gut says...maybe. .
Same Problem
Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
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Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
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We just need AT&T to release the update. That's all. Rumor is all comes with the Tango update.
matt
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I hope so. Thanks for the fast response
Hey, everyone.
I just bought an ATT Samsung Focus S i937 off of eBay. It was locked when I received it, so I plunked down 25 bucks and unlocked it. I'm using it on Telus and so far all is well, except for WiFi connection sharing/tethering.
When I try to enable internet sharing, I get a message saying "Connection not shared. To enable tethering on this device go to (ATT's website) or dial 611."
Basically, it sounds like I need to have an ATT tethering plan to enable this on my phone, but since I'm not an ATT customer, there's not mch I can do.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Taylor
TaylorofCanada said:
Hey, everyone.
I just bought an ATT Samsung Focus S i937 off of eBay. It was locked when I received it, so I plunked down 25 bucks and unlocked it. I'm using it on Telus and so far all is well, except for WiFi connection sharing/tethering.
When I try to enable internet sharing, I get a message saying "Connection not shared. To enable tethering on this device go to (ATT's website) or dial 611."
Basically, it sounds like I need to have an ATT tethering plan to enable this on my phone, but since I'm not an ATT customer, there's not mch I can do.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Taylor
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firstly DO NOT INSTALL THE SAMSUNG UPDATE!! and if updating the OSan have it unlocked already read This Website and use the relock prevent + edit your hosts file
Absolutely back up your device at every stage using This Guide
So follow these steps
unlock the device Here follow the instructions which includes installing the diagnostic tool and install XAP deployer or XAP handler Here or Here With the XAP file deployer in the WP7 SDK
Then install WP7 Root Tools Here
Then install WP Bazaar market Here
Open Root Tools, and give Bazaar higher level privileges
Find WinTT on the Bazaar market and install it
Open Root Tools, and give WinTT higher level privileges
you may need to restart to get WinTT working
go through WinTT and turn on ICS
Done
Wow thanks.
That's very complete. One questions though... I didn't mention this, but I am a registered WP7 dev and can unlock this device using my dev access. Can I load any of the XAPs directly instead of having to crack my phone?
Thanks,
Taylor
Yeah, you have limited access to installing xaps, but you will still need to interop unlock and use root tools to give higher level access to WinTT, so your best starting from scratch,
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Unable to understand the process
I have purchased an Samsung Focus S i937 locked to AT&T. I have purchased an unlock code and have successfully unlocked my phone. Im also unable to use the Internet Sharing feature of my phone. Firstly, I am not a technical guy hence im unable to understand the process stated by you. Secondly, I wanted to find out that does following the process given by you, expose my device to get BRICKED as I am able to understand that involved a JAIL BREAK of the device. Does it have any other side effects.? Like effecting the radio signals or any other such problem.
Thanks
abhijeetmohan06 said:
I have purchased an Samsung Focus S i937 locked to AT&T. I have purchased an unlock code and have successfully unlocked my phone. Im also unable to use the Internet Sharing feature of my phone. Firstly, I am not a technical guy hence im unable to understand the process stated by you. Secondly, I wanted to find out that does following the process given by you, expose my device to get BRICKED as I am able to understand that involved a JAIL BREAK of the device. Does it have any other side effects.? Like effecting the radio signals or any other such problem.
Thanks
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ok, first things first.
You won't brick your device, at worst a hardrest all remove all changes you can do, our device, the focus S, isn't fully unlocked, so there are limitations to the amount of damage you can do by arseing it up. With that behind us you have to learn what you are about to do, there isn't a simple way.
So, start by knowing these basics, then read through the guide, any bits you don't understand feel free to ask.
1, AT&T locked your internet connection sharing, so you must re enable that
2, To enable ICS, you must make changes to the registry
3, Microsoft locked you out of making changes to the registry, so you must gain access to do it
4, AT&T left a security hole allowing us to make changes to allow us to change things like registry
5, using that hole we can install software that will give us more access, that software can then allow us to remove the AT&T lock on ics
These things you must do, there is no magic answer, there has been some short cuts made but this in some cases has had a negative effect, such as losing 3g, doing as I said will not have any effect on your signal or anything else
Sent from my Samsung Focus S using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Have you guys noticed any of the following....
issues after the above procedures were applied (a big thanks to all the brainiacs who know how to hack this stuff):
Slowed Internet Connection
Lower Strength of GPS Signal
Less accuracy and trouble sometime finding location
Less accuracy while using maps because of the above statement
Not complaining, just curious. Thanks to all.:good:
7carisfast said:
issues after the above procedures were applied (a big thanks to all the brainiacs who know how to hack this stuff):
Slowed Internet Connection
Lower Strength of GPS Signal
Less accuracy and trouble sometime finding location
Less accuracy while using maps because of the above statement
Not complaining, just curious. Thanks to all.:good:
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theres nothing in the code that should have done that, the XML import only fiddles with interop unlock
im not 100% sure what WTT changes but I know the entries it should be fiddling with and shouldnt make any difference, although its been suggested the ICS code does mess with the 3G signal ive not heard anything at all to suggest that it effects GPS as well.
See This Thread for details, ive copied the relevant bits here but all thanks should go to those on the original thread
Option 1
---- 11.3. If your device is not locked to a specific operator, you can use the Samsung Network Profile app (for 1st generation) or Wireless Manager (for 2nd generation)
-------- 11.3.1. Uninstall the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.2. Download and install the latest version of the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app from the Marketplace.
-------- 11.3.3. Open the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.4. Select a different Network Operator.
-------- 11.3.5. Now Select your own Network Operator again.
-------- 11.3.6. Exit the Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
Option 2
Resolve Samsung connection problems
A lot of Samsung owners have complained here about connection problems. They blamed Interop Unlock, but apparently this has more to do with enabling "Internet Connection Sharing" than with "Interop Unlock". You should be able to recover the connection, apply this:
1. Start Diagnosis App> *#32489# ***DOES NOT WORK ON i937***
2. Tap "Back" 2 times to go back to Phone Control
3. Choose: [7] Network Control
4. Choose: [1] GFC
5. Choose: [3] Setting Cancellation
Wait for it to say success, then reboot.
GPS is a completely passive function, I don't have a problem with this, HSDPA may have issues for reasons unknown but using this method doesn't effect mine, perhaps its carrier specific..
dazza9075 said:
theres nothing in the code that should have done that, the XML import only fiddles with interop unlock
im not 100% sure what WTT changes but I know the entries it should be fiddling with and shouldnt make any difference, although its been suggested the ICS code does mess with the 3G signal ive not heard anything at all to suggest that it effects GPS as well.
See This Thread for details, ive copied the relevant bits here but all thanks should go to those on the original thread
Option 1
---- 11.3. If your device is not locked to a specific operator, you can use the Samsung Network Profile app (for 1st generation) or Wireless Manager (for 2nd generation)
-------- 11.3.1. Uninstall the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.2. Download and install the latest version of the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app from the Marketplace.
-------- 11.3.3. Open the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.4. Select a different Network Operator.
-------- 11.3.5. Now Select your own Network Operator again.
-------- 11.3.6. Exit the Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
Option 2
Resolve Samsung connection problems
A lot of Samsung owners have complained here about connection problems. They blamed Interop Unlock, but apparently this has more to do with enabling "Internet Connection Sharing" than with "Interop Unlock". You should be able to recover the connection, apply this:
1. Start Diagnosis App> *#32489#
2. Tap "Back" 2 times to go back to Phone Control
3. Choose: [7] Network Control
4. Choose: [1] GFC
5. Choose: [3] Setting Cancellation
Wait for it to say success, then reboot.
GPS is a completely passive function, I don't have a problem with this, HSDPA may have issues for reasons unknown but using this method doesn't effect mine, perhaps its carrier specific..
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Thanks for the info. I'll see if it helps. Just as FYI, the code *#32489# does not appear to work on the i937.
7carisfast said:
Thanks for the info. I'll see if it helps. Just as FYI, the code *#32489# does not appear to work on the i937.
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indeed, so it would seem, many of the diagnostic codes have been disabled which is a pain, even the ones that are left don't always do what you expect them to do
8773 update
dazza9075 said:
firstly DO NOT INSTALL THE SAMSUNG UPDATE!! and if updating the OSan have it unlocked already read This Website and use the relock prevent + edit your hosts file
Absolutely back up your device at every stage using This Guide
So follow these steps
unlock the device Here follow the instructions which includes installing the diagnostic tool and install XAP deployer or XAP handler Here or Here With the XAP file deployer in the WP7 SDK
Then install WP7 Root Tools Here
Then install WP Bazaar market Here
Open Root Tools, and give Bazaar higher level privileges
Find WinTT on the Bazaar market and install it
Open Root Tools, and give WinTT higher level privileges
you may need to restart to get WinTT working
go through WinTT and turn on ICS
Done
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What if I have already updated to version 7.10.8773.98, is there any other possible way? I don't need any other features. Thanks in advance.
If you have updated the OS and NOT the samsung firmware then reapply the windows break interop unlock, be sure to keep it off the inernet by disabling all coms and then apply the relock prevent xap. if you have applied the Samsung firmware and didn't have it already unlocked or you didn't have a back up, your screwed
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dazza9075 said:
If you have updated the OS and NOT the samsung firmware then reapply the windows break interop unlock, be sure to keep it off the inernet by disabling all coms and then apply the relock prevent xap. if you have applied the Samsung firmware and didn't have it already unlocked or you didn't have a back up, your screwed
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First of all I just want to say thanks that you're trying to help me, but I just didn't understand many things u said, I'm not really into technical stuff, but I'll tell you what info I have, in hope of u helping me better.
I don't live in the US and I bought the phone from ebay and it was unlocked and it works perfectly over 2 carriers here in my country, and I have never encountered any problems with it except for the internet sharing feature.
And about 3 months ago the phone notified my to a system upgrade from version 7.10.7740 to version 7.10.8107 then immediatly to version 7.10.8773.98. now I'm guessing these are OS firmwares not samsung software.
but I've noticed something, when I setup my phone for the first time I used a US hotmail account but before I connect to the internet the ICS feature worked, but once I signed in it gave me the dial 611 or go to att.com/mywireless message.
So I am guessing if I restore the device and sign in with a non US hotmail account may result in the feature to be unlocked. The only thing keeping me from trying this because I'll have to redownload all my apps again and reorganize my contacts again. if there's a way to avoid that or someone has tried it please do tell.
Again thanks for your reply.
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First of all I just want to say thanks that you're trying to help me, but I just didn't understand many things u said, I'm not really into technical stuff, but I'll tell you what info I have, in hope of u helping me better.
I don't live in the US and I bought the phone from ebay and it was unlocked and it works perfectly over 2 carriers here in my country, and I have never encountered any problems with it except for the internet sharing feature.
And about 3 months ago the phone notified my to a system upgrade from version 7.10.7740 to version 7.10.8107 then immediatly to version 7.10.8773.98. now I'm guessing these are OS firmwares not samsung software.
but I've noticed something, when I setup my phone for the first time I used a US hotmail account but before I connect to the internet the ICS feature worked, but once I signed in it gave me the dial 611 or go to att.com/mywireless message.
So I am guessing if I restore the device and sign in with a non US hotmail account may result in the feature to be unlocked. The only thing keeping me from trying this because I'll have to redownload all my apps again and reorganize my contacts again. if there's a way to avoid that or someone has tried it please do tell.
Again thanks for your reply.
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ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
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dazza9075 said:
ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
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Dazza,
Kudos for your help as you personally worked with me through this information. Not sure the Samsung update is a concern as I'm running fw2103.11.10.1 and everything works great.
Thanks again.
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ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
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OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware version: 2103.12.05.2
kholio88 said:
OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware version: 2103.12.05.2
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im afraid to say your firmware is locked,
2103.11.10.1 is unlock-able, im pretty sure anything from xxxx.12.xx.x upwards is locked down solid
I don't suppose you made a backup? if you haven't then there is nothing you can do
the Samsung firmware update was released as a separate update at the same time as the tango 8773 build, it tried to install on mine after the 8773 build
Found a solution =D
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im afraid to say your firmware is locked,
2103.11.10.1 is unlock-able, im pretty sure anything from xxxx.12.xx.x upwards is locked down solid
I don't suppose you made a backup? if you haven't then there is nothing you can do
the Samsung firmware update was released as a separate update at the same time as the tango 8773 build, it tried to install on mine after the 8773 build
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I'm really sorry for the late reply, was busy at work. but during that time I might have found a "Glitch" or a workaround to enable it and I have tested it many times and it works.
Well there are two ways:
1st one which is a sure thing:
1) Turn off the phone, then turn on again.
2) Once the phone is turned on, immediately go to settings>internet sharing and turn it on and BOOM there you go :laugh:
* I have tried this method over a dozen times and it works every single time
** The point here is that you have to enable it immediately after the phone is turned on, I think it happens because the phone doesn't have enough time to send the info. to the servers to know that it's not enabled by default.
2nd one which was succesful over 75% of the time:
1) Go to Settings>cellular>Turn Off, Wait like 5-10 seconds and turn on again.
2) Go to Internet sharing> Turn on, and enjoy :fingers-crossed:
***I don't know why do they work or how, may be it's a Glitch like I said before but the point is they do work
I hope that I've helped someone out there and Thanks to everyone who tried to help me
kholio88 said:
I'm really sorry for the late reply, was busy at work. but during that time I might have found a "Glitch" or a workaround to enable it and I have tested it many times and it works.
Well there are two ways:
1st one which is a sure thing:
1) Turn off the phone, then turn on again.
2) Once the phone is turned on, immediately go to settings>internet sharing and turn it on and BOOM there you go :laugh:
* I have tried this method over a dozen times and it works every single time
** The point here is that you have to enable it immediately after the phone is turned on, I think it happens because the phone doesn't have enough time to send the info. to the servers to know that it's not enabled by default.
2nd one which was succesful over 75% of the time:
1) Go to Settings>cellular>Turn Off, Wait like 5-10 seconds and turn on again.
2) Go to Internet sharing> Turn on, and enjoy :fingers-crossed:
***I don't know why do they work or how, may be it's a Glitch like I said before but the point is they do work
I hope that I've helped someone out there and Thanks to everyone who tried to help me
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nice find, ICS is disabled locally only, it doesn't have anything to send, the only thing I can think of that makes sense is that the service hasn't been initialised and doesn't call the reg entries that disables ICS, by turning it on manually ASAP it perhaps catches it out. if you enable it, then disable it, can you still enable it again in that session or do you need to restart?
dazza9075 said:
nice find, ICS is disabled locally only, it doesn't have anything to send, the only thing I can think of that makes sense is that the service hasn't been initialised and doesn't call the reg entries that disables ICS, by turning it on manually ASAP it perhaps catches it out. if you enable it, then disable it, can you still enable it again in that session or do you need to restart?
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Well I tried that, but there is no definite answer to it, sometimes I turn it on and off on and off many times without needing to restart and throughout the whole day, and sometimes it works once and doesn't at the second try. So it all comes down to luck, but still better than nothing
Now the thing is I'm afraid that when the 7.8 update comes, they would fix this glitch =D Haha.
So yeah, assuming their efforts is successful and they manage to set up their wifi to deny access to rooted devices, is there anyway around this without unrooting?
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So yeah, assuming their efforts is successful and they manage to set up their wifi to deny access to rooted devices, is there anyway around this without unrooting?
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There used to be a module called Root Cloack(er) for Xposed frameworks that hides root, don`t know if there is a version for Marsmellow though. Its here on the XDA forums somewhere.
But how? I can't think of any way to detect a rooted/jailbroken phone from a Wifi connection, without you having to install or run some other piece of software/script that would give them that information.
revrenhex said:
But how? I can't think of any way to detect a rooted/jailbroken phone from a Wifi connection, without you having to install or run some other piece of software/script that would give them that information.
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I'm not sure. I would not put it past my company to make us install such a script in order to access wifi.
Many places are doing this. Detecting root is simple. Even Snapchat and others are doing it. Heck they are even looking for xposed and won't work if detected.
You would be amazed at what info people can get from your device when it's connected to wifi
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Many places are doing this. Detecting root is simple. Even Snapchat and others are doing it. Heck they are even looking for xposed and won't work if detected.
You would be amazed at what info people can get from your device when it's connected to wifi
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a lot of info sure... But an app running on your phone detecting it, vs detecting that something is installed simply by connecting to their network? Your phone passes along a lot of info... but not installed binaries?
I could see them maybe having a black list, like if you're connecting the the exposed repositories your likely rooted... but if you are not using programs that require root access and communicate over the network, how are they doing this?
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a lot of info sure... But an app running on your phone detecting it, vs detecting that something is installed simply by connecting to their network? Your phone passes along a lot of info... but not installed binaries?
I could see them maybe having a black list, like if you're connecting the the exposed repositories your likely rooted... but if you are not using programs that require root access and communicate over the network, how are they doing this?
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A simple request for the info. Have you ever looked at a logcat and saw everything running. I could be gone for weeks and come home and tell you every device that has ever connected to my network the whole time I was gone and with the right things in place could even tell if they are rooted or jailbroken
I can see the same as the poster above me on our network, it is not hard at all. And if we had such a policy and you used a cloaker I would have you fired.
Their network, their rules. I really don't think you should do this.
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A simple request for the info. Have you ever looked at a logcat and saw everything running. I could be gone for weeks and come home and tell you every device that has ever connected to my network the whole time I was gone and with the right things in place could even tell if they are rooted or jailbroken
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Can you provide any links or further detail? Obviously by viewing system logs you can tell whats running.... but I have never seen any standard network function to request a connected device to send logs without permission? Google searching the topic provides little info as its saturated with info on how to root, and using root for ad blocking.
Even a brief overview of the setup you would use to check? What are "the right things" and what "place" would the need to be in?
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Can you provide any links or further detail? Obviously by viewing system logs you can tell whats running.... but I have never seen any standard network function to request a connected device to send logs without permission? Google searching the topic provides little info as its saturated with info on how to root, and using root for ad blocking.
Even a brief overview of the setup you would use to check? What are "the right things" and what "place" would the need to be in?
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I wont get into it too deeply as I have my guys that watch this site as well and If they go around my security setup like with exchange pin request or using some devices on my network I will fire them on the spot. Lets just say the router logs everything that is done on the network. Connect your device to your wifi and then watch a logcat. You should be able to see what you are looking for.
Understand that unless approved by me no device can connect to my network. With the right router you can see everything about a device. you wont find much info on google as things like this are kept close to the chest with the IT crowd
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I wont get into it too deeply as I have my guys that watch this site as well and If they go around my security setup like with exchange pin request or using some devices on my network I will fire them on the spot. Lets just say the router logs everything that is done on the network. Connect your device to your wifi and then watch a logcat. You should be able to see what you are looking for.
Understand that unless approved by me no device can connect to my network. With the right router you can see everything about a device. you wont find much info on google as things like this are kept close to the chest with the IT crowd
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No one here is trying to connect to your network. It's XDA and people are curious. I agree that it's silly to circumvent measures used by the company you work for (assuming you want to keep working there), but I also find it strange that you connect to a network and have that router, etc tell if your phone has a specific binary and apk. Is that what you are claiming happens?
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There used to be a module called Root Cloack(er) for Xposed frameworks that hides root, don`t know if there is a version for Marsmellow though. Its here on the XDA forums somewhere.
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This is not possible to limit an android version via network traffic, the best they could do is catch you updating cyanogenmod and ban your mac by guessing that your rooted, but its so much work, its a bunch of empty threats.
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No one here is trying to connect to your network. It's XDA and people are curious. I agree that it's silly to circumvent measures used by the company you work for (assuming you want to keep working there), but I also find it strange that you connect to a network and have that router, etc tell if your phone has a specific binary and apk. Is that what you are claiming happens?
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It can yes. And you are right this is XDA but you would be amazed at what info is not shared here or anywhere except between IT managers or other devs.
Once connected to a network it is not that hard to get everything from a device. This is why all the warnings about connecting to open networks. While Open networks are more of a risk it goes to show that anything can be done.
This has been a practice for a very long time even back to the WM days when roms encluded time bombs that would make the rom not work after a set time and date.
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It can yes. And you are right this is XDA but you would be amazed at what info is not shared here or anywhere except between IT managers or other devs.
Once connected to a network it is not that hard to get everything from a device. This is why all the warnings about connecting to open networks. While Open networks are more of a risk it goes to show that anything can be done.
This has been a practice for a very long time even back to the WM days when roms encluded time bombs that would make the rom not work after a set time and date.
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It's all smoke and mirrors to me until someone explains how it's possible to read files on a device by a user just connecting to a network and providing no further interaction. Sure you can get the device MAC, name, etc, but that's not how I read your statements. As mentioned in the post above yours, you can guess on network traffic, etc, but I really doubt anyone can "know everything".
Loved the HTC Diamond and TP2 [emoji1]
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It's all smoke and mirrors to me until someone explains how it's possible to read files on a device by a user just connecting to a network and providing no further interaction. Sure you can get the device MAC, name, etc, but that's not how I read your statements. As mentioned in the post above yours, you can guess on network traffic, etc, but I really doubt anyone can "know everything".
Loved the HTC Diamond and TP2 [emoji1]
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Its not guessing network traffic. You can tell exactly what sites they go to. You can tell if they are using a mobile or desktop browser. (same way the carriers do it to prevent teethering)
All it takes is being connected to a network to be infected with a virus. Just how do you think that happens?
No one is gonna explain it. Just like we dont allow talks about network penetration. There are just something that are best not out in public view.
Here is an older example of how they detected jailbroken iphones on school networks.
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Its not guessing network traffic. You can tell exactly what sites they go to. You can tell if they are using a mobile or desktop browser. (same way the carriers do it to prevent teethering)
All it takes is being connected to a network to be infected with a virus. Just how do you think that happens?
No one is gonna explain it. Just like we dont allow talks about network penetration. There are just something that are best not out in public view.
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I am specifically referring to detecting that a binary and an apk exist on a device SOLELY based on establishing a network connection (not viruses, not websites visited...user does nothing and no new code/software runs on the device). That does not seem probable to me.
It may just be semantics, but that's how I interpreted your original statement.
Of course network admins can see what sites users visit, what browser they use, etc and there is no guessing - only logs [emoji3]. I was using guessing in different sense (ie, you see something "suspicious" and draw conclusions).
Wow.... if i ever get fired after i found out they are 'reading' files on my device... this will be case for a courtn no doubt! I'm sure (at least where i live) the one that fires you based on such actions will have a big problem!
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I am specifically referring to detecting that a binary and an apk exist on a device SOLELY based on establishing a network connection (not viruses, not websites visited...user does nothing and no new code/software runs on the device). That does not seem probable to me.
It may just be semantics, but that's how I interpreted your original statement.
Of course network admins can see what sites users visit, what browser they use, etc and there is no guessing - only logs [emoji3]. I was using guessing in different sense (ie, you see something "suspicious" and draw conclusions).
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If you read the link they showed how to detect cydia which showed them it was jailbroken. The same thing can be done on android.
Droidphilev said:
Wow.... if i ever get fired after i found out they are 'reading' files on my device... this will be case for a courtn no doubt! I'm sure (at least where i live) the one that fires you based on such actions will have a big problem!
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You would lose. When you agree to use their network you agree to all their rules. This is the main reason for things like Knox. As more and more place move to a "right to work" setup where they dont need a reason to fire you at all. I would be careful about what rules one does break. Gone are the days where we could get away with things like this.
You know this got me thinking. Maybe I will play around with my network and see what I can find out. I have to block root and xposed users anyway so this would be a great challenge. Might be awhile as I revert all my PC back to windows 7.
From an IT perspective, a rooted device provides little to no security. That's why most mobile device management (MDM) products include a feature that let IT block rooted devices from connecting to the secure network or accessing corporate assets. But these products must be able to detect rooted devices before they can block them, and there are ways users can get around those detection mechanisms. Organizations that rely on MDM alone to detect rooted devices should be aware of these limitations.
http://searchmobilecomputing.techta...evice-risks-include-network-access-data-theft
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If you read the link they showed how to detect cydia which showed them it was jailbroken. The same thing can be done on Android.
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I didn't see a link in Tapatalk or Chrome mobile. As for me, I see no reason why I'd ever want to connect my personal smartphone to my work network. Thanks for the discussion.
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You made me VERY curious! I will try to call HR department of the company i work for today to ask how this works for us
If i get fired because of this phonecall i will try to get you fired for making me curious
Hi,
I'm using the latest stock version and wonder what the system-app com.oppo.wifisniffer is doing. I know it would be stupid to name an app like that if it would actually intercept my wifi and sniff for sensitive data. So i wondered if there is any intel out there about this system-app. (I actually think there is another thread on XDA with a similar question which has no answers at all...)
Is someone experiencing strange behaviour with their connected wifi?
Did someone reverse this app? (can't find much online though)
Anyway, some clearing up would be nice for my conscience...
slic3r said:
Hi,
I'm using the latest stock version and wonder what the system-app com.oppo.wifisniffer is doing. I know it would be stupid to name an app like that if it would actually intercept my wifi and sniff for sensitive data. So i wondered if there is any intel out there about this system-app. (I actually think there is another thread on XDA with a similar question which has no answers at all...)
Is someone experiencing strange behaviour with their connected wifi?
Did someone reverse this app? (can't find much online though)
Anyway, some clearing up would be nice for my conscience...
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I found that this app is in oppologkit.While we dial *#800# then oppologkit screen will appear .Settings-->Wifi-->Wifisniffer.Dont know for what purpose they provided that.
"wifisniffer" sounds like the software that detects available wifi to me. the phone also has an option that connect to the best wifi available automatically. not sure how you jumped to thinking it may be stealing your credentials lol. You should worry about every process run by the phone if you suspect as much lol.
acyg said:
"wifisniffer" sounds like the software that detects available wifi to me. the phone also has an option that connect to the best wifi available automatically. not sure how you jumped to thinking it may be stealing your credentials lol. You should worry about every process run by the phone if you suspect as much lol.
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You are completely right, nevertheless just to know what apps are doing is kinda calming thought, isn't it? As the term "sniffer" is usually used in another way than connecting to the best wifi available...
Anyway thanks for your answers ...