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...so I am compelled to root. ALL I care about is unlocking that other 256 (himem, I think it's called) for use and apps2sd would be nice but not necessary. Any other practical enhancements would be welcome. I'm using build ERE27. So which ROM fits that description best and where are the easiest instructions with links to download? I have been all over this and other sites and there are so many tutorials and none seem identical. Try Youtube and you know what you get? The most popular root tutorial (by far) flat out tells you from the start "This is not for beginners". Well, where the **** is the one for the beginners? I've jailbroken Iphones and flashed ROM's on to WM devices but I've never seen a more convoluted method to implementing a ROM replacement for a phone. Step by step (with backup reminders at critical times during process) would be great.
For example (from CyanogenMod):
Before continuing, you should first copy all the necessary files to your SD Card. Doing so will make the entire process much easier and faster.
Files you will need:
Download the latest release of CyanogenMod for the Nexus One and the Google Addon from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Download the latest release of Amon_Ra's Nexus One Recovery Image from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611829
Rename Amon_Ra's recovery file "Recovery.img", and copy all three files to the root of your SD Card
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I'm sorry, did you not just provide me with 2 files to download? Where does the third come from? And why does every "Link" lead to a full page with 3700 more links rather than just a freaking file to download??
Even Droiddog uses a Mac during the process because a PC would have been far too convenient for the masses (Plus I don't want the Desire ROM-too borky).
Preparing myself beforehand (going through the motions of the root without rooting) led to me opening 7 windows instead of direct file downloads. 7 Windows. 7. Does it really have to be this arduous?
I'm sorry for the frustration but deciding to root was suppose to be the hard part. Now I'm just overwhelmed with the unnecessary difficulty of it all. In truth, I'll probably be posting "thanks" from a rooted N1 by tomorrow and wondering what was so hard about all of that.......or I'll be crying over a $530 brick in my hands.
I believe Cyanogen mod (latest version in the link) includes the himem by default, just install that and you'll get the more available RAM (unless there is more steps to the process), I do not use Cyanogen.
Please note this is not the iphone OS we are dealing with here, things will not be as simple as a button press.. I honestly do not know what a "noob guide" is when it comes to Android, it all seems so straightforward to me... If I rooted my G1 and I'm only 13, not even being a nerd at that (wouldn't care if I was though..), I would imagine it not being hard for anyone..
At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?
DMaverick50 said:
At least the ram thing can be fixed with an ota. It looks like the multitouch problem is hardware. I feel like the ram, choppy scrolling, weird picture quality and image issue should really be solved by now by official update. I can see stringing us along for software upgrades like cupcake, new market, etc...but software fixes should be released asap. Any eta on the nexus 2?
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Choppy scrolling is just that launcher2, and has nothing to do with the actual phone hardware which is a good thing. I went back to an older 2.0 launcher that is MUCH MUCH faster with continuous scroll.
I will switch if continuous scroll is added to launcher2, but yeah that choppiness stinks
It's a bug the iPhone had its bugs too. One of the great things about rooting your phone is not having to wait for Google to fix bugs the devs here do it nice and quick. I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.
Prod1702 said:
I waited a month then rooted my phone and I am happy I did.
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Does the extra 256 of ram make a noticeable difference in the overall speed and experience of the device (you should know having gone a month with stock on it)?
I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.
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I didn't know CM rom unlocked the RAM you are talking about. I thought we were still waiting on an update from google for that.
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Is this true?
CM mode unlocks a good upgrade portion of the ram, for example with 10 apps Open I used to have 60 or less MBS left of ram, after CM upgrade with Kspec theme, i have 10 similar apps open and have 200+mbs of ram left, dont believe me? I actually made a video while still pretty shocked, check it, might as well rate and sub. I think I had 230+mbs while 10-12 apps running
www.youtube.com/user/exclusivegslick = my only video.
Ok to answer a few of your questions:
Does CyanMod include more ram? YES. This bump up in ram is included in the Kernel, and all of the newest roms have this including the undervolted/overclocked kernel's as well.
You get about 400mbs after the free up.
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
Ok here is a quick summary that will hopefully help the other guides make more sense. USE THE OTHER GUIDES STILL this is a conceptual map.
1) Install Android SDK to your COMPUTER which gives you ADB and the windows drivers. The drivers can also be downloaded via another thread. Search drivers/sdk drivers/adb drivers etc..
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
3) Download Amon Ra Recovery 1.6.3 to your Fastboot FOLDER on computer
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
*This gives you all of the proper stuff. Make sure you get ADB SDK drivers loaded I stumbled here and wasted a couple of hours*
6) Unlock bootloader via fastboot. This is a command given from your Computer in DOS prompt in the folder you created with fastboot stuff. Your phone is connected and you are in the BOOTLoader. READ the guides for exact directions or the androidandme video, or countless other things.
7) Install Amon Ra's Recovery while still in FASTBOOT from a command via your computer. Follow guides or even first post on Amon Ra's Thread.
8) Now that you are unlocked. Go into RECOVERY which is done via the bootloader. Guide will give exact direction.
9) **** MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP **** just get in the habit. It is your FAIL SAFE. This in theory makes a nandroid backup of your "stock but unlocked" setup. I always "RE" nandroid backup before making changes or when I "Like" my setup. Command is in recovery.
10) WIPE data via recovery command.
11) FLASH from ZIP - pick Cyanogenmod5.0.4.1 (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
12) Flash from ZIP - GAPPS(googleapps) (file you dl'ed to your sd card)
REBOOT the phone. VOILA. Your done.
Important notes. If you decide, IFFFF, to update the radio. NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery. MD5CheckSUM the radio download. and Repeat NEVER EVER EVER EVER pull the battery until the radio is entirely installed. It can take awhile. This is how you BRICK your phone.
Anyways. that is a real high lvl overview but maybe puts things in perspective easier.
btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.
britoso said:
btw you actually have less than half of the total RAM & ROM usable on a stock n1.
I would love to post a cyanogen guide...but haven't rooted yet. I believe he has a wiki with steps too.
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Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\
I know what you mean with the "this is not for beginners", it was annoying because, even cyanogen had to unlock his first android phone some time. I followed that guide anyway, after doing as much research as possible. It didnt work though, i could not go straight from unlocking the bootloader to installing amon_ra's recovery, i had to install superboot first. I was hoping for a 30 minute root job, but it ended up taking about 4 hours all up.
I think the stock android kernel is .29 Which only recognises 256mb ram, cyanogen's mod is on the .32 then the .33 kernel which is a highmem kernel, by flashing cyanogenmod you are automatically unlocking the extra ram, no other work is required.
Also, i would suggest sticking with the ERE27 radio, i personally have no problems with reception with it, also if you don't flash the radio, your chances of bricking your phone are very very very low. If you want to do the radio, you can flash it later, when you are more experienced.
seanowns said:
The Three Files:
Google had to go after Cyanogen so he HAD to seperate "google apps addon" from his mod. OTHER ROMS will include Google apps in most cases. So CYanogenmod = 2 files.
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I downloaded the Android SDK
2) Download/install Fastboot to your COMPUTER
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Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
4) Download CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 to the ROOT(VERY TOP LVL) directory of your SD CARD.
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Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
5) In same post, Download Google APPS 36ERE thing to ROOT of your SD CARD.
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Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.
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I downloaded the Android SDK
Where is fastboot?
Do I have to do this? : (from Cyanogen's Wiki)
Instructions from Android Developers and ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noob
Download the latest Android SDK.
Unzip to C:\AndroidSDK
Right-click on (My) Computer, and select Properties
Go to Advanced settings
XP: Click the Advanced tab
Vista/7: Click Advanced system settings on the left
Click the Environment Variables button
double-click on Path (under System Variables)
Add the full path to the tools/ directory:
C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
(make sure a semicolon ( separates this new path from all the others) Latest windows version appears to need: "C:\AndroidSDK\android-sdk-windows\tools", install location may have changed. (sorry I don't know how to format this correctly!)
Run C:\AndroidSDK\SDK Setup.exe
If it gives you an error go to settings and click on "Force http//....."
Unselect all options except for the USB driver
If you can't get the setup to work, download the USB-DRIVERS folder - HERE (Windows XP/Vista/Windows 7)
On your phone, click Settings > Applications > Development and make sure USB Debugging is on.
Plug your phone into your computer via USB cable (it needs to be on). It should say installing drivers if using Windows.
After it installs the drivers, goto the Start menu and type cmd into the search bar (Vista or higher) or click Run then type in cmd (XP) to open the command prompt.
Type the following into the command prompt window:adb devices
You should see a serial number pop up, it’s the serial number of your phone. This means you are all set. If you do NOT see a serial number, then we need to reinstall the drivers.
Download USBDeview
While the phone is still plugged in, open USBDeview and sort by manufacturer. Find all the HTC/Android drivers and uninstall them all. (Windows Vista requires program to be run as an administrator, otherwise files won't uninstall.)
Once all have been uninstalled, unplug the phone from the USB cable and plug it back in.
The correct drivers should reinstall automatically (check the drivers as they are installing, one should say ADB Device driver).
To check, go to Devices in your Start menu then click on the “Android Phone”. Click on the Hardware tab, and check the list of drivers for ADB Interface under Type.
Done! Now you can use ADB to alter your phone from your computer.
I have Amon RA Recovery Image.
Please go to the Cyanogen Page and tell me where that is. The only link that states CyanogenMOD 5.0.4.1 will lead to another tab opening with the exact same page as the one you just left. Check for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
Is this the file underneath the CyanogenMOD that is named Google ION? It does the exact same thing that the CyanogenMOD file does when you click it. Re-opens that same page in another browser.
I have no problem following the instructions once there is a clear link to the files one actually needs to complete this process. I'm not trying to be difficult, the ability to root to Cyanogen on xda developers is, right now, broken.
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Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!
Gr8gorilla said:
Cyanogen has moved the download to the CyanogenMod web page.
If you have sdk, and fastboot, on you machine and you have already put on amon-ra recovery, then you should be set to go.
Go to Cyanogen Mod.com and click the link to download the latest stable release. If you are in the US. I recommend that you get the new ERE36B radio. You should flash it as well. Just read up on flashing radios and plug in your phone, dont pull the battery during the radio flash and always md5sum a radio image no matter what. The radio is the only area where flashing has the potential to be dangerous.
Good luck and welcome to the Cyanogen World, you will never go back!
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What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).
addon - vs mod
whodatfever said:
What is the difference between the Cyanogen's N1 Addon which I am getting from this tutorial:
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/video-how-to-unlock-and-root-a-nexus-one/
and the ROMS available on this page (and which one do I download. There's a dozen!)
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/downloads/rom
Where do I download the radio and why is ERE36B better in the USA? A poster above said I should stay with the one I have (27).
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The add-on was what Cyanogen made before google released the source code for android 2.1. It is not a full custom rom.
The ROM's ie. 5.0.4.1 is all the Cyanogen tweaks, highmem etc. 360 degree rotation (left right and upside down if you enable it) and all sorts of stuff.
You really should try both radios and see which one works better for you. Some people have better results with one and some the other. I have the best continuous 3G/HSPDA signal with the ERE36B radio.
On Cyanogen mod forum, go to nexus one and there is a link to get the latest stable ROM 5.0.4.1 that is what you want. You have to also download the Google add-on.
Cyan used to include them but got a nice letter from google telling him he was not allowed to "optimize" their stuff. So he puts it in a separate package as is, and you have to flash it after you flash his rom to get the google apps.
Google apps will be called: gapps-passionERE36B(2) or something very similar.
I am willing to answer any questions you have just send me a pm.
andythefan said:
Same here. I'm temped every day to root and unlock the benefits, but I don't know if it's worth voiding my warranty :\
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there is a thread here about your warranty and as long as you have a problem that is a legit hardware defect HTC has been replacing them, dust under screen bad battery, and a few other things.
GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.
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GR8Gorilla. Thank you for all of this. It was a convoluted mess trying to decipher some of the tutorials. I am very grateful and am starting the process in a few minutes. I'll let you know how it goes and thank you again.
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Remember if and when you flash the radio, plug in phone, and whatever you do, do not pull the battery while it is doing the radio. That is the biggest NO NO. It can make a nice nexus One paperweight. As long as you dont pull the battery you will be fine. I have flashed mine about 4 or 5 times....and I have flashed roms about 1000 times.
The phone is going to reboot a couple of times during a radio flash, be patient.
Hello all!
I was very lucky today to be able to pick up the China Mobile variant of the Galaxy S5, one day early, and 1000 RMB cheaper! I've attached some photos to this post of both the handset, and the phone in the official S-View case to show what it looks like. Hopefully as other people pick up this variant of the phone, we can collect our findings here, and be able to help each other out as needs be.
First impressions are good. This is the single-sim version of the handset, and has 16GB of storage. No Google Services, unfortunately, but hopefully that will be something that will be rectified soon once people cleverer than I am get their hands on it and root it, etc.
If anyone has any questions, please ask away and I will try to help to the best of my ability!
edit: been a couple of days of usage now, and just received first update from the network to build number KOT49H.G9008VZMU1ANCH 2014-3-26.
Anyone else out there picked up the same model? Hopefully, there are some enterprising people out there working on root and recovery, as the phone is a little gimped without any Gapps on it!
Hi,
Thanks to bubbl3 there is a much better and easier version available. Did that with my phone today after upgrading to the latest official ROM and really worked perfect... :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-gain-root-install-gapps-t2904863
Cheers,
bobopopo
Hi
got the G9008V (Samsung S5 - China Mobile TD-SCDMA/TD-LTE Version) and I am struggling with the following three questions:
1. I do not need the device to be rooted; I still want to be able to receive OTA-Updates - but I want to install Google Apps. Is that possible?
2. If the device needs to be rooted, is it possible and did anyone do it successfully yet? In this thread this model is not listed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537 (On Taobabo already many shops offering rooting of the device but I prefer to use some offical version from XDA Developers to understand the process better.)
3. Did anyone already spot Custom ROMs for downloading? Links are appreciated.
I had a fruitful exchange
also e in this forum to unchain my HTC S720t; hopefully this can be also done for the SM-9008V...
Cheers,
bobopopo
Hi bobopopo,
Glad to hear I'm not the only one!
I've had the phone for a week now and have successfully rooted and installed Gapps. As far as I'm aware, it's necessary to root in order to do this. I used the universal root method shown in the Android Development section of this forum, and the recovery image which I got from a Chinese message board http://www.tdbeta.cn/thread-134676-1-1.html - be aware the recovery menu is in Chinese, so you may need a Chinese speaker/reader to help you with it if you don't speak Mandarin.
If I can help further, please let me know!
Hi Cocytan,
yes, feels good not to be the only one...
Sounds good that you managed to install the Google Apps, that will make life easier (if you are relying on Google stuff).
I have never rooted a Samsung phone (I only used HTC for a decade) but should be workable. I can deal with a Chinese CWM Recovery but for convenience I would prefer an English version. (Just for the convenience of others, the description of the universal flashing process can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717061 )
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By the way, this looks also like a good resource: http://www.shuaji.net/samsung/s5/ It appears that they also have custom ROM for download - but it does not seem to be clear what this ROM is about. I would like to have a standard non-Chinese ROM (e.g. Singapore) that comes with the China Mobile radio stack. I have that for my S720t and it is clear of any China Mobile rubbish what is quite nice. Hopefully someone will have the knowledge and mercy to provide something like that...
Will try on the weekend, thanks so far!
br
bobopopo
Successfully rooted now and with Google Apps
Hi,
As it took me quite some time to get the courage and read through various threads until I finally successfully rooted my Samsung S5 G9008V I would like to quickly list what I did. It was actually quite simple and I would like to say a special thanks to Xiaolu (here named Chenglu) to compile an English CWM recovery file for me.
So here is what I did:
1. Followed Ricky310711's tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648 on 'recovery' with Odin 3.07 and by flashing Xiaolu's g9008v-cmw-recovery-6.0.4.8-en(0420).tar.md5 - 12.33 MB
2. After that proceeded with thread from 1. and step 'root" by downloading the universal rootkit S5rootkit.zip and putting it on the SD (you only need this file, nothing else to do).
3. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
4. Select 'install from zip' and locate S5rootkit.zip on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
5. Download matching Google apps for the Android version (at the moment 4.4.2) and put them on the SD card as well (I took these: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps/4.4.2)
6. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
7. Select 'install from zip' and locate 4-11_GApps_Standard_4.4.2_signed on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
Thumbs-up to all contributors, especially to Xiaolu for his quick help on an English recovery file.
Hi bobopopo, special thanks for your detailed instructions above. I recently purchased a galaxy s5 in China for my wife's birthday next week and it wasn't until I got it home that I realised it was missing all of the things that make her nexus (2 years old) a google phone. Really. Not. Cool. She uses all those features and I've been at this since Thursday trying to get the phone ready for her birthday on Wednesday (added to this I can only really work on it when she's not at home because I don't want her to see the phone).
Anyway, following your instructions I've put the phone in recovery and rooted the device, all worked like you described. I will say however that her phone doesn't have an SD card, so I put all those files on the internal memory and it still worked fine, I could locate them and install and it then gave me the successfully installed notice.
After rooting the phone I installed: gapps-kk-20140105-signed.zip that is a package of all the google apps supposedly. I also installed all the .zips that were the last link in your post above. However, it seemed upon rebooting the phone that no new apps, calenders etc were installed. So I went online and downloaded google play and gmail apk. This time they installed (prior to the root they wouldn't), but none of them will open.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong or what I need to do next? Do I need to install an international ROM perhaps, and if so, does anyone have a link and some instructions?
We're still in China by the way, and on her nexus she has no problem accessing google play because we bought that phone in Australia. Her gmail and calender and google drive all work over the wifi here too.
Hi otby,
I am not an expert on the google apps but I also encountered problems before (unexpected shutdowns etc.)
If I understand you correctly, you have used a different file than I did. My file (see link in my instructions above installed flawless and worked out fine. Maybe you just try the same file? If your wife is using the calendar sync then you need to install separately (also under the link above). All works well for my wife's phone; so if you have the same phone with the same original stock ROM it should be reproducable. Maybe the gapps that you installed do not match the ROM.
Please also make sure the following:
1. Check that your phone is really successfully rooted.
2. Make sure that you really install the gapps when being in recovery mode. The file I used was giving a lot of feedback during installation and also confirmed in the end that the installation was successful.
Installing an international ROM according my experience should kill the radio function of the phone (because this thread is about the G9008V which is China Mobile 4G which relies on TD-SCDMA standard which is mostly used by China Mobile only). If you install an international ROM your phone will be flashed with a different radio stack and does not know how to connect to the China Mobile network anymore. I did that with a HTC S720t and all I was left with was a PDA with wifi. So better do not try that.
My wifes phone still has the original ROM, just rooted and with Google Apps. To clean up the useless China Mobile rubbish from the ROM you can e.g. use Titanium Backup to free it from bloat ware (but be careful not to kill the ROM).
Good luck with the Google apps; maybe someone else with more experience than me can also comment on why your Gapps did not install successful.
If you can get it running, that phone will really rock; so keep on trying...
Cheers,
bobopopo
Again, thank you very much for your reply - yesterday I was searching for an international ROM and thank god I read your message before installing, the phone is exactly the same model and carrier as yours (she's already with China mobile so it was an easy choice), if we lost radio... Thanks.
Ok I'll try and install them again - I too get messages of success after installing - and see how that goes. Also, do the apps just appear in the apps section of the phone or do you have to do something in settings for them to be selected/show up? The link you posted for the Gapps is a link to six separate zip files (and I installed them all separately just in case I've done that wrong), should it have been one file?
I will get onto Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware, thanks for that suggestion.
Back to it!
Am planning to buy this : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5932&c=samsung_sm-g9008v_galaxy_s5_td-lte
Is this worth the price? Am gonna give it to my partner.
Hi otby,
any success? Otherwise I think you can also search on Taobao and try to find some Chinese guy in your city to get it done for you. If you live in a larger city that should be no big deal..
Cheers
bobopopo
bobopopo said:
Hi,
As it took me quite some time to get the courage and read through various threads until I finally successfully rooted my Samsung S5 G9008V I would like to quickly list what I did. It was actually quite simple and I would like to say a special thanks to Xiaolu (here named Chenglu) to compile an English CWM recovery file for me.
So here is what I did:
1. Followed Ricky310711's tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648 on 'recovery' with Odin 3.07 and by flashing Xiaolu's g9008v-cmw-recovery-6.0.4.8-en(0420).tar.md5 - 12.33 MB
2. After that proceeded with thread from 1. and step 'root" by downloading the universal rootkit S5rootkit.zip and putting it on the SD (you only need this file, nothing else to do).
3. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
4. Select 'install from zip' and locate S5rootkit.zip on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
5. Download matching Google apps for the Android version (at the moment 4.4.2) and put them on the SD card as well (I took these: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps/4.4.2)
6. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
7. Select 'install from zip' and locate 4-11_GApps_Standard_4.4.2_signed on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
Thumbs-up to all contributors, especially to Xiaolu for his quick help on an English recovery file.
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Is it ok to do this on a G9008V that was purchased via China mobile with a 2yr contract ?
Can they pick up on it or does it mess with the data package contract I have ?
CWM is NOT working with my S5 G9006V, but i can't root (. Sorry.
Can you help me out
bobopopo said:
Hi otby,
I am not an expert on the google apps but I also encountered problems before (unexpected shutdowns etc.)
If I understand you correctly, you have used a different file than I did. My file (see link in my instructions above installed flawless and worked out fine. Maybe you just try the same file? If your wife is using the calendar sync then you need to install separately (also under the link above). All works well for my wife's phone; so if you have the same phone with the same original stock ROM it should be reproducable. Maybe the gapps that you installed do not match the ROM.
Please also make sure the following:
1. Check that your phone is really successfully rooted.
2. Make sure that you really install the gapps when being in recovery mode. The file I used was giving a lot of feedback during installation and also confirmed in the end that the installation was successful.
Installing an international ROM according my experience should kill the radio function of the phone (because this thread is about the G9008V which is China Mobile 4G which relies on TD-SCDMA standard which is mostly used by China Mobile only). If you install an international ROM your phone will be flashed with a different radio stack and does not know how to connect to the China Mobile network anymore. I did that with a HTC S720t and all I was left with was a PDA with wifi. So better do not try that.
My wifes phone still has the original ROM, just rooted and with Google Apps. To clean up the useless China Mobile rubbish from the ROM you can e.g. use Titanium Backup to free it from bloat ware (but be careful not to kill the ROM).
Good luck with the Google apps; maybe someone else with more experience than me can also comment on why your Gapps did not install successful.
If you can get it running, that phone will really rock; so keep on trying...
Cheers,
bobopopo
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I'm new to this but a fast leaner.... I been trying to install the my magazine apk and nothing,I'm rooted and all I also changed the permissions and all still nothing,can you please please me out,thanks
bobopopo said:
Hi otby,
any success? Otherwise I think you can also search on Taobao and try to find some Chinese guy in your city to get it done for you. If you live in a larger city that should be no big deal..
Cheers
bobopopo
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Yes, I was finally successful last on Monday. My own fault, I had downloaded the gapps from the links you gave but as I mentioned, although they installed, they didn't actually show up on the phone - I believe this is because they were in individual zip files as opposed to one zip file containing them all, but being a noob and seeing as how it worked for you, I can't say for sure.
What worked for me was downloading the Kit Kat 4.4.2 Gapps file that I found {I'm not allowed to post links yet, as I haven't reached 10 posts, so just google search for Kit Kat 4.4.2 Gapps file} I had tried it last week but for some reason it hadn't downloaded properly. I gave it another try and this time the file was 83.1M, as it says on the webpage. This time it worked. I simply transferred the .zip file to the internal memory of the phone (I don't think it matters which folder, as long as you remember where you put it) and installed, then rebooted the phone and all the google apps were there and I could access google play store and gmail.
Since then, I've taken your advice and downloaded titanium backup, gotten rid of the bloatware, bought an SD card and backed everything up to it. You're right, this phone is awesome. I bought this for the wife, and I already have an iphone 5, but she's been using it for a couple days now and it is infinitely better than the iphone. I could go on, but seeing as this is the xda forums it'd be like preaching to the proverbial choir, I'll only say my next phone isn't going to be an iphone.
need help
do you have a cwm recovery for SM-G9006V link?
my device is Galaxy S5 SM-G9006V.
please help me!
actually I need to install "play store" on my SM-G9006V.
dear sir, Can u help me?
Hi,
I tried following your instructions to get my Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G9008V) flashed, I'm stuck on the 1st step, ODIN won't detect my phone in download mode.
I running windows 8.1, I went thru Ricky310711's tutorial and tried all the self help I could do.
any suggestions would be appreciated.
bobopopo said:
Hi,
As it took me quite some time to get the courage and read through various threads until I finally successfully rooted my Samsung S5 G9008V I would like to quickly list what I did. It was actually quite simple and I would like to say a special thanks to Xiaolu (here named Chenglu) to compile an English CWM recovery file for me.
So here is what I did:
1. Followed Ricky310711's tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648 on 'recovery' with Odin 3.07 and by flashing Xiaolu's g9008v-cmw-recovery-6.0.4.8-en(0420).tar.md5 - 12.33 MB
2. After that proceeded with thread from 1. and step 'root" by downloading the universal rootkit S5rootkit.zip and putting it on the SD (you only need this file, nothing else to do).
3. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
4. Select 'install from zip' and locate S5rootkit.zip on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
5. Download matching Google apps for the Android version (at the moment 4.4.2) and put them on the SD card as well (I took these: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps/4.4.2)
6. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
7. Select 'install from zip' and locate 4-11_GApps_Standard_4.4.2_signed on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
Thumbs-up to all contributors, especially to Xiaolu for his quick help on an English recovery file.
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Please Help
bobopopo said:
Hi,
As it took me quite some time to get the courage and read through various threads until I finally successfully rooted my Samsung S5 G9008V I would like to quickly list what I did. It was actually quite simple and I would like to say a special thanks to Xiaolu (here named Chenglu) to compile an English CWM recovery file for me.
So here is what I did:
1. Followed Ricky310711's tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648 on 'recovery' with Odin 3.07 and by flashing Xiaolu's g9008v-cmw-recovery-6.0.4.8-en(0420).tar.md5 - 12.33 MB
2. After that proceeded with thread from 1. and step 'root" by downloading the universal rootkit S5rootkit.zip and putting it on the SD (you only need this file, nothing else to do).
3. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
4. Select 'install from zip' and locate S5rootkit.zip on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
5. Download matching Google apps for the Android version (at the moment 4.4.2) and put them on the SD card as well (I took these: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps/4.4.2)
6. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
7. Select 'install from zip' and locate 4-11_GApps_Standard_4.4.2_signed on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
Thumbs-up to all contributors, especially to Xiaolu for his quick help on an English recovery file.
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I live in Shenzhen. I just got the same phone but I cannot seem to get the root to work. Can you please help me? 18820959126 or WeChat JasonCOvers
Thanks! Do you have the s5rootkit.zip?
bobopopo said:
Hi,
As it took me quite some time to get the courage and read through various threads until I finally successfully rooted my Samsung S5 G9008V I would like to quickly list what I did. It was actually quite simple and I would like to say a special thanks to Xiaolu (here named Chenglu) to compile an English CWM recovery file for me.
So here is what I did:
1. Followed Ricky310711's tutorial at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648 on 'recovery' with Odin 3.07 and by flashing Xiaolu's g9008v-cmw-recovery-6.0.4.8-en(0420).tar.md5 - 12.33 MB
2. After that proceeded with thread from 1. and step 'root" by downloading the universal rootkit S5rootkit.zip and putting it on the SD (you only need this file, nothing else to do).
3. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
4. Select 'install from zip' and locate S5rootkit.zip on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
5. Download matching Google apps for the Android version (at the moment 4.4.2) and put them on the SD card as well (I took these: http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps/4.4.2)
6. Put the S5 into recovery mode (Volume+/up, home button and power for several seconds).
7. Select 'install from zip' and locate 4-11_GApps_Standard_4.4.2_signed on your phone (probably on external SD card). Execute installation, should end with a success message.
Thumbs-up to all contributors, especially to Xiaolu for his quick help on an English recovery file.
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Thanks for this great walkthrough! The link to download the s5rootkit.zip file from the original maker isn't working anymore -- any chance that you still have it and could share it? I'm really missing the google apps on my phone Thank you!
@flollop - i have it, if you give me an email address i can send it to you
kistvan80 said:
@flollop - i have it, if you give me an email address i can send it to you
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That would be great, thank you! I'll PM you my email address. Thanks!
Hi all, finally I registered here at xda today because of the great new HP TPToolbox that jcsullins provides here.
This is really really great !! Many thanks !
As a newcomer to this forum I somehow can not comment on the original thread ( ) although I'm developer for decades ..
Well - so far I've been around on webosnation and other forum - but here I find that the core of development happens here.
XDA seems to be a great place to be - as a developer.
1. About the posting from jcsullins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52765181&postcount=5
It read:
> Only Touchpad Wifi supported (not 4G) at this time
I assume this is really limited to the released HP TouchPad and does not include the never released HP TouchPad Go (7" device) - right ?
2. I read:
> Reflash A6 Firmware allows you to reflash the A6 firmware.
I very much assume I can not use this if my TP is bricked (my TP does not show anything on the screen and no light at the home button).
So - I guess - I first need to do through the TPdebrick procedure.
Sure I know these instructions: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004 Again, thanks to jcsullins for providing these too.
( Also - I wonder if there is a way to use these instructions from a Win7 system too ?)
3. In terms of using TPToolbox to get Android installed on TP:
Till today I run only webos 3.0.5 on my TouchPads and I want to keep webos around. I have 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) and TP GO (Wifi).
What is the recommendation before installing some Android (4.4) on a TP. Do I need to rearrange / clean up some of the existing webos volumes?
Imagine - I have no experience with Android setup. I read all of the TPToolbox thread - but found no guidance for people who want to keep webos on the same device. And I have no good understanding of what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device.
4. I read:
> It will then install moboot (which is included in TPToolbox)
I have no clear understand what moboot is doing and if needed how to remove it again. Will it allow me to boot in Android or webos ?
How many Android versions can I install in parallel and then select one at boot time ?
5. A final question for now. Is there any consideration that in future TPToolbox could allow installing openWebOS if this becomes available for existing TP devices?
anyone with some answer please ?
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
[email protected] said:
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
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OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
sstar said:
OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
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Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
Unable to navigate TP Toolbox UI
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
[email protected] said:
Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
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As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend. WIth respect to the TP GO, it does not appear to have ever been released, but if you have one, you'll have to answer your own questions because no one here has ever mentioned having one:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397197,00.asp
Touchpad linked to google account acting badly
J Scullins Toolbox installed with ease. Many thanks. Freed up memory and eliminated WebOS (pretty but pretty useless). Booted fine, loaded CM 11 4.4.2. Then asked if I wanted to restored my google apps from google account. I did. Began updating apps, but included all apps I've ever installed on any android device and loaded my current phone (Galaxy 3) wall paper. Repeated message -> "Unfortunately Trebuchet has stopped" Did not seem to affect downloading updates. Then died. Plugging into charger (wall socket) did not wake it up. Charged all night. Nothing. Unplugged and plugged in again, self-rebooted to boot menu, but has phone screen and shows charging at 1%. Should I reboot to restore mode and start over? Anyone having charging issues after using Toolbox? Thanks.
shumash said:
As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend.
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Thanks for promising that I should be able to find answer. I did read the complete thread about TPToolbox and few others too and search before I started this new thread - but my above 5 questions remained open. If anyone has found a good pointer please paste a URL here.
If I find correct answer myself I will put such links here.
ad (4) I think I understand moboot good enough for now. In my words it is a boot manager that comes with Android or at least you can use with Android. It is not a webos app or so. Not 100% sure how to get it on the TP device - but I assume when I install Android for first time it will also install and it will somehow stay even if Android gets deinstalled. Anyhow - any link to a good wiki page would be much appreciated.
ad (1) Yes, TP GO is a rare device - but several 100 seem to be around by now. Many of these come with some Android 2.X version installed. ( Mine was patched to webos 3.0.5 ) Ok, if noone has a GO here I have to assume that TPToolbox does not support / was not tested on TP GO. So far posting from jcsullins does not mention the TP GO at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...81&postcount=5
mheath said:
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
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I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
mheath said:
I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
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The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
Toolbox not working for me
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
Rekaro said:
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
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Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
A) Have novacom installed
To load TPToolbox, you will need novacom to be installed on your PC.
You can download and install novacom from http://www.openwebosproject.org/open.../packages.html
Or, you can download and run a java-based "universal installer" from http://code.google.com/p/universal-n...downloads/list
B) Put the Touchpad into webOS recovery mode and connect via USB cable to PC
NOTE: Even if webOS is removed, webOS recovery will still exist as it's built into the bootloader.
If you have moboot already installed, just select "webOS recovery" there.
Or, power the Touchpad off via webOS, then with the Touchpad is off, hold VolumeUp (closest to Power) and Power until you see the USB symbol.
Or, hold Power+Home until the screen changes (about 10 secs) and then start holding the VolumeUp button until you see the big USB symbol.
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shumash said:
Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
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Thanks,
no it's in recovery mode i'm shure. A big usb symbol on the screen and some other lines.
I can then open the terminal-window and connect the Touchpad.
I add here pictures what happens when i type the commands "printenv" and "token".
When i type reboot, the TP starts correct to boot, first the static HP sign, then a greyed HP sign and then a screen (see the picture) with a grey rotating Button.
That's it.
issue loading TPTToolbox
Sorry folks - i am fairly new at this - and we all had to start at some point - so if this is obvious to most, i apologize.. but need a little help.
I cant seem to get the Toolbox to load, i downloaded it from the post,{as well as the Novacom driver} i have extracted the three files - when i open the .bat file i get the message below. I have the TouchPad connected via USB, and windows has assigned it a letter drive and I have the big USB icon on the pad screen
message:
"
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
"
Toolbox
I'm not sure you understand the instructions on how to do the install.
Here is a link with instructions that I used for my install:
http://liliputing.com/2014/06/use-touchpad-toolbox-install-android-erase-webos-hp-touchpad.html
While the instructions are written for windows users, I used them for my Ubuntu Linux install and everything
worked perfectly.
Recovery problem when running toolbox
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
Compatible Legacy ROM files:
cm-10.1-*-tenderloin.zip or
skz_tenderloin-2.11_jb_4.2.2-*.zip
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but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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Try the update-TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140512.zip instead. It worked just fine for me.
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
......
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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How did you rename the file? I don't think you need to rename any file.
No matter how many times I reinstall novacom TPtoolbox will not get past
Checking Novacom services....
And goes no fauther.
I am running windows 8.1
HP Touchpad 4G - Issue running
[email protected] said:
The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
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Good thing I didn't wipe webOS off! I'd have a nice frisbee. Hopefully these guru's will fix that issue and we can all be happy. Thanks JCSullins.
Hi guys,
I've an old HP Touchpad running with CyanogenMod 9 from 2012. I'll upgrade this device to a modern Android 6.0 ROM. What I've found so far:
Backup old ROM, all files, … (all files on the virtual sd-card will be lost)
Fully charge the battery before doing any ROM modifications.
Because Android 4.0 is too old, it must be uninstalled first.
I'll do this on Xubuntu 14.04, where do I get a secure copy of the Novacom stuff for 64bit? Found it: Wayback Machine
I'll need the ACMEUninstaller (source?), or is TPToolbox the new way to go? (I don't want to lose my webOS partition!)
I'll lose Moboot and CWM-Recovery too, after using any uninstall method, right?
Now it's time for a fresh Android 6.0 installation! (via TPToolbox?) Pick a ROM (Evervolv?), recovery (traditional CWM), a GApps package and let's start the party…
Anything I've missed or misunderstood? I'm not a Linux-noob, but I'm not familiar with the current methods to flash Android on this device, especially without using Windows.
Regards,
Christian
I would get rid of the WebOS and go completely with Android.
Start with Sullin's Touchpad Toolbox v42 as you mentioned.
Setup on win7/64 is pretty painless (YMMV)...
This utility makes it so easy to flash and maintain these tablets. Start with the A6 Battery firmware flash.
And then you have a plethora of ROMs to chose from. However the newer versions require a different
partitioning scheme, and that's the main factor in ditching WebOS.
_D.
If I were to get rid of WebOS, whats the easiest way to back it up incase I want it back at some point?
douglasdtlltd said:
If I were to get rid of WebOS, whats the easiest way to back it up incase I want it back at some point?
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doug - i'm watching with interest as i'm at the same point as you. Although I've already put JCSullins' TP Toolbox on ( that was super easy )
A point - I have not read anywhere bar your post that it's necessary to uninstall Android 4 before flashing a new ROM.
My main research point now is how to adjust partition sizes as I expect I have the same as you:
128MB A2SD,
1.48GB internal storage
394MB system
197MB cache
cable_guy said:
doug - i'm watching with interest as i'm at the same point as you. Although I've already put JCSullins' TP Toolbox on ( that was super easy )
A point - I have not read anywhere bar your post that it's necessary to uninstall Android 4 before flashing a new ROM.
My main research point now is how to adjust partition sizes as I expect I have the same as you:
128MB A2SD,
1.48GB internal storage
394MB system
197MB cache
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I'm at this point too, did you manage to update the tab to a 6.0 or 7.0 rom and if so what steps did you take? Thanks
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gingerdude said:
I'm at this point too, did you manage to update the tab to a 6.0 or 7.0 rom and if so what steps did you take? Thanks
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I've now have (5) of these in use. (2) are still on Sullins 4.4.4, the other three I've been dinking around with Evervolv (Flintman's) 7.x
I'm preparing this weekend to make one of the three my daily driver, replacing the 4.4.4 that is currently serving that role.
One is going to be put to use for a Digital Read Out (DRO) on my Bridgeport Mill.
And my Better Half would like one...
I would, as stated above just take the plunge and jump to 7.x
Here's the Thread in the Dev's Section....
And for a definitive guide go - HERE - Roland has posted a very good go-by.
_Dan
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
jamesking420 said:
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
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You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
DoubleStuff said:
You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
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Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
jamesking420 said:
Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
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I am curious to what install process you have used to install the Dirty Unicorn Pie? Please respond, its nice to see what install processes some users are using....like what speed of Universal swap settings did you install?, did you use ROM reducer?
In the meantime since you have Novacom and TPTB installed try this process to install maybe Nougat, Oreo or Pie ( with /swap ) or KitKat or Lollipop. Once you read the OP it will direct you to the key Android versions to install on HP_TOUCHPAD's page.
I currently use KitKat and I am fine with that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
jamesking420 said:
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
You don't have to do a Complete Data Reset anymore with the TPToolbox if your going to run TPTB_WireAll_TWRP_02_win.bat or flash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition, it almost seems like your combining three different methods of installs, because TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat actually flashes Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition in the background and that actually does a complete data reset and creates a 500 Mb swap partition, and re-creates the system, cache, media and data partitions with sizes of 2200 Mb, 200 Mb, 500 Mb, and "rest of memory" respectively, also automatically installs version 3.2.1-0 of TWRP which is required for the other ZIPs.
Only use TPToolbox to flash A6 firmware, or look at partition sizes.
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
How are you copying zips to your touchpad if your PC does not work? Once you
flashed Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition it should get you to a
TWRP Recovery install screen, and you can then flash your zips, no need to use TPToolbox as I said before. Essentially TPToolbox is an "old school" method now. And flashing from TWRP Recovery you don't need compatible zips, that is a bug of TP Toolbox that has not been fixed.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
I am curious, even if we point you to a set of such files, how are you going to copy them from a broken PC?, and see above for another way of doing this than from TPToolbox, if you can get into TWRP recovery and have zips on your Touchpad your all set.
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
Your PIE version above is the latest version, good. But the TWRP 2.8.3 version above is "old school" we are currently at this version FLINTMAN-TWRP-3.2.1-0-03-15-2018, and like I said above the "Wipe All" methods automatically install this latest TWRP version, so no need to flash an "old school" TWRP's afterwords.
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I made comments above in blue. Here is my summary.
Because your PC broke, like you said "blue screen of death, RAM corruption". This is the very reason that @HP_TOUCHPAD is thinking "outside the box" trying to create an environment that users will not be dependent on a PC anymore. He is in the process of creating this environment, but lets give him time. For by his own admission he is just a regular user, he is learning, experimenting, creating and testing. He is also documenting his findings for all of us to read, learn and apply. So let us do our due diligence and do the best we can.
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
jamesking420 said:
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
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This appears to be working to install a KK ROM so I will see if it comes up and I can then run the various flashes.
PS - yes - I did think that running Complete Data Reset and the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win" was probably unecessary but I'd already run Complete Data Reset before I realised that it probably was overkill. Since this process worked I decided to do it again on the second touchpad, but the Windows PC died before I got the chance. But I had already run the process to load TPToolbox on to the tablet. So I'm now flashing TWRP v2.8.3.0 (data media), a KK ROM, and some KK compatible GApps using TPToolbox.
I hope that after that I can use the recovery I have loaded to install a new ROM, Rom Reducer, SU, Optimiser, GApps, and a more recent Recovery.
jamesking420 said:
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My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
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I learn something new everyday, I just googled Raspberry Pi and its some sort of tiny, dual-display, desktop computer. At first I thought it was some sort of "Rogue ROM", I guess we can always learn something new everyday, like last month I learned to play Run Race 3d and I am not even a gamer.
And yesterday I wrote a program in a UNIX language called "AWK"
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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As per your comment recovery ( again?! ), only flash recovery if you want a different version than what the Wipe all zip flashes ( currently flashes TWRP 3.2.1 ), lets say in the future nobody is updating the Wipe all zip, and it still flashes TWRP 3.2.1, but you see a newer version of TWRP 4.1 compatible with the touchpad, then you can flash that at the tail end, or if your fond of an older version like TWPR 2.8, same thing.
Thanks - yes - I want sure if Wipe all Zip was flashing or just into TWRP so I flashed it again just to be on the safe side. Because it was called wioe ask I thought maybe it wasn't actually flashing anything new, just wiping and booting.
Anyway, thanks for your help it was very useful.
jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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The HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android guide:
Click HERE for the Guide and File
A live Linux CD, just boot it from any PC, no installation is need it and have full control of the Tablet for ever !
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
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jamesking420 said:
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
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That is very unfortunate, but there is nothing to worry. The Tablets can be found for $10 anywhere and you maybe surprise to find in a dumpster somewhere.
But it can be revive to its full working conditions and all the files are posted on here, it only takes a click and is done!