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[Q] HP Touchpad not recognized by Windows

I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!

bone625 said:
I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Take a look at this thread. I think it could have information that could maybe help you.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508572

Thanks, bah tried all that - the problem is mounting USB recovery, can't get into androidto test anything else. I'll have access to a few other computers this weekend so I"ll see if they can find it. Going to rewipe everything tonight as well, will update... pretty annoying.

I have an idea.
What you can try is to reboot into WebOS, mount the /media drive so you can copy files to it from Windows. On that media drive, there should still be a folder called cminstall. Copy the moboot install zip back into there, and then reboot the tablet into recovery (Power+VolUp). From there, run AcmeInstaller2 again, and you should be good to go - it'll run, and force an install of the contents of that /media/cminstall folder, which'll put Moboot back in place.
At least, that's what SHOULD happen. I'm no expert, but from what I've seen and played with, that should do what you're trying to achieve.

Thanks for trying.. Not exactly what it needed to be fixed though. I have everything ready to go in uninstall, the computer (any computer I've tried so far, and its been quite a few - that all used to read the touchpad in recovery mode) won't register it and mount it as a drive so I can run ACMEInstaller in the first place.
It must have changed something on the touchpad itself, because it used to mount fine before that happened... Now every computer installs it as palm novacom booties and never mounts the actual drive, and acmeinstaller just says no device or something like that. Bah, still can't figure it out, I miss android haha.

Did you enable MTP in the advanced menu under the Storage section?

Are you trying to get the device to show up in adb? If you are having troubles with that I found a really nice guide on another website on how to get adb to read the touchpad if nothing else is working. Not sure if I can post the link or not. Send me a pm if this is something you need.
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using xda premium

Problem is I can't boot into android cause the bootloader broke and I can't get it to boot android period, even with cyboot. I know all l I have to do is run ACME again... But I can't run it cause it won't mount haha. Stuck in webOS for now, and every computer I've tried won't boot recovery mode anymore. Drivers check out and register but can't change anything to recognize it as a drive. I think I'm going to try to manually uninstall everything android, then reinstall webOS and see if it mounts then. Blah!

AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.

bone625 said:
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.
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This trick with webOS doctor just saved my ass. I couldn't boot past the green cyanogenmod splash screen and needed to boot straight off an image from moboot on my desktop, and taking webOS doctor to that step was the only thing that would let me run the command line entry to make it where my PC would talk to my touchpad. So, thank you

Would this work for a TP that reads both ways on PC as listed by OP but is only stock?

bone625 said:
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
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What do mean by run ACMEInstaller? I only know using the novacom boot mem:// <ACMEInstaller method, though that's getting stuck while on the two penguin screen.

Hp touchpad 32GB converted into Android 4.4.4.KitKat with ROM CM11
Hi My name is Ramadoss.N Recently I have converted my touch pad to Android KITKAT 4.4.4. with Rom CM11 -20140625- Snap Shot- jcsulline. I used TPtoolbox V41d to install. Everything working fine. except few observation.
1. Bottom Menu Button like Home , Return to previous screen are not working in vertical position of touchpad, where as it works in Horizontal position.
2. There are 3 dots on right hand side corner to provide dropdown menu: it works in vertical position, does not work in Horizontal position.
3. search icon ( which looks like a magnifying glass) does not work in both positions.
4.Back space key working in Vertical position, does not work in horizontal position.
5. Could not load Music via computer after installing Android in the Touchpad,
I really appreciate if any one can give me solution for above.
Regards
Ramadoss.N
email : [email protected]

[Q] Cannot Flash To Repair, Boot Loops and Deleted SD card

Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte

chicawhyte said:
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
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UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.

chicawhyte said:
UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
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TouchPad toolbox will solve it.

Moody66 said:
TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
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Where is the Toolbox? Looked in Preware, Just Type and everywhere else and I can't find it. Thanks.

Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte

chicawhyte said:
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
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It didn't work....aborted.... :crying:

It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.

Roland asked me about this, this is my reply. Feel free to help out.
chicawhyte said:
It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
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+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!

Greetings,
Please read below my message to Roland and my problem below/wanted to add that now on both computers (my laptop where I do the flashes) and my husband's where I copied the Palm, Inc. folder to attempt Android there-the message I get is that "there is no hardware found" on the command prompt.

Please try to follow the instructions and explain things when requested
chicawhyte said:
Hello Roland, help!!!!! Please read this thread and let me know if I have to wipe everything and restart from scratch with WebOS Doctor. Here's the thread from xda-developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-...r-boot-loops-deleted-sd-t2803190/post53886856. Runs WebOS fine, but no Android to be seen; files are there but it won't let me format the whole tablet. Thanks!
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RolandDeschain79 said:
"Hey so I took a look but that just tells me you're confused and trying to follow multiple sets of instructions. Can you list what you've tried and where you get stuck. There's no cminstall folder in this set of instructions its a ttinstall folder. Did you complete the first steps of uninstalling android and wiping the USB drive?"
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chicawhyte said:
+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
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Please try and limit your conversation to one location. People who spam my YouTube channel and the forum with the same questions tend to get permanently banned without warning. Consider this a warning.
chicawhyte said:
......That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
.......I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
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Secondly if I ask you a question try to answer it as completely as possible. Don't tell me you made a mistake by wiping the SDcard then refuse to tell me how you did this even after I asked specifically about it. Claiming that you know how to wipe the SDcard then asking for specific instructions how to do so doesn't give me confidence in your ability. If you wiped the SDcard from a windows PC then you've made your own problem and completely ignored all the available instructions.
chicawhyte said:
. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
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I'm having a very hard time understanding why you say you're stuck on step 1, which is installing novacom and backing up your data, when you're talking about step 5 installing android???
Step by step instructions have been provided and I even made a long video that reads you all the info. No one can help you to follow instructions that's up to you. Saying you didn't want to follow the instructions then asking for help is just silly. If you do not wish to change the layout of your touchpad just stick to the Non data media roms.
New Super Easy Way Guide and video available
[ROM GUIDE]How to use the TouchPad Toolbox to install Android "The Super Easy Way"(DM & Non-DM)

HP wont let me in after partial wipe.

I havent used my Touchpad for a year or so but took it on holiday to Portugal. I tried getting my GMAIL to work and it would not. So I did a partial wipe. Now it lets me say what country I am and what language then goes to wifi screen. It shows its picking up my wifi and lets me sign in then an error message comes up and it goes no further I understand Webos is not supported any more so was wondering how to load a new software package ( Android?) and start again. Help please?

Install Android and you're good
rose28454 said:
I havent used my Touchpad for a year or so but took it on holiday to Portugal. I tried getting my GMAIL to work and it would not. So I did a partial wipe. Now it lets me say what country I am and what language then goes to wifi screen. It shows its picking up my wifi and lets me sign in then an error message comes up and it goes no further I understand Webos is not supported any more so was wondering how to load a new software package ( Android?) and start again. Help please?
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Android would be the way to go, WebOS is no longer supported. Jcsullins TPtoolbox with make it happen, have fun.:highfive:
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 5.x.x/4.4.x with Jcsullins TPtoolbox Super Easy Way

RolandDeschain79 said:
Android would be the way to go, WebOS is no longer supported. Jcsullins TPtoolbox with make it happen, have fun.:highfive:
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 5.x.x/4.4.x with Jcsullins TPtoolbox Super Easy Way
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I had a look and think I can do that. But couple questions. How can I get past the screens I mentioned in my post and secondly how can I download if I cant get on internet on the TP?

rose28454 said:
I had a look and think I can do that. But couple questions. How can I get past the screens I mentioned in my post and secondly how can I download if I cant get on internet on the TP?
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You'll need to connect the touchpad to a PC prior to using the toolbox. It'll let the PC read the touchpad as a USB mass storage device and you can migrate your ROM, GAPPS, etc. onto the device and let the toolbox work its magic .

rfoster2009 said:
You'll need to connect the touchpad to a PC prior to using the toolbox. It'll let the PC read the touchpad as a USB mass storage device and you can migrate your ROM, GAPPS, etc. onto the device and let the toolbox work its magic .
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I tried for 4 hours last night and eventually downloaded the Novacom but it would not work. Any ideas?

Instructions start with step #1
rose28454 said:
I tried for 4 hours last night and eventually downloaded the Novacom but it would not work. Any ideas?
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It took you 4hrs to get to step 1? Further explanation is needed here, the steps are in an order for a reason.
If you're having issues getting the novacom drivers installed disable any antivirus or spyware protection that might be preventing the program from downloading the correct drivers for your system. Also make sure you have java installed and reboot after installing everything.
1)Getting started, Requirements and Preparation:
A)You must have the novacom software installed on your PC before running Jcsullins Touchpad Toolbox.
Download and run the Universal Novacom Installer 1.4.1. Click here:
Note:You will need to have Java installed to run the Universal installer. Click here:
Note: You may need to reboot after installing this software.
Or
Download, extract and install the appropriate version of Novacom for your OS. Click here:
Note: Under Linux the Novacom driver is installed at /opt/Palm run it from this location.

Unable to mount Touchpad USB to PC after installing Android 4.4.4

I am unable to mount the USB to my PC using after installing Android 4.4.4 on my Touchpad. Was able to do so with WebOS. How can I connect my Touchpad using a usb cable to my PC? PC is a Gateway Notebook running Windows 7 Starter version.

1sharpguy said:
I am unable to mount the USB to my PC using after installing Android 4.4.4 on my Touchpad. Was able to do so with WebOS. How can I connect my Touchpad using a usb cable to my PC? PC is a Gateway Notebook running Windows 7 Starter version.
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Which rom and build of Android 4.4.4 are you currently using?
Try this:
Plug the tablet into the PC with the USB cable. Go to settings/storage/ click the 3 dots in the upper right/USB computer connection.
Switch from Media device to Camera, see if windows detects and installs drivers. Then set it back to media device.

Still no luck with mounting Touchpad
Hello Roland...
Thank you for your help and informative response. I am still unable to mount my device (Touchpad) to my PC (Windows 7). I have described below what I have tried to do so far.
Which rom and build of Android 4.4.4 are you currently using?
I used the downloads from [ROM GUIDE] How to Install Android 7.x.x Nougat builds on the HP TouchPad
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By RolandDeschain79, Recognized Contributor on 3rd December 2016, 06:30 PM
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Gapps, Recovery):
Rom:cm-11-20161219-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin.zip
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-444-base-20160602-1-signed.zip
After switching from Media Device (MTP) to Camera (PTP), Windows was able to detect my device (TouchPad) and install the drivers. Despite the information displayed in Android Settings for USB Connections (Camera (PTP) lets you transfer photos using software, and transfer any files computers don't support MTP), I was only able to transfer photos/pictures. When I switched back to Media Device (MTP) file transfer, Windows could not detect my device. Instead, when I looked in device manager, Windows sees my device as a Samsung Android phone (which I have) and not a Touchpad.
I have attached a screen shot of the driver files in the submenu Android Composite ADB Interface. I even ran and update. All files were current with latest updates. Thus, for some reason Windows is seeing my Touchpad as a Samsung Android phone and not a Touchpad.
Any suggestions? I am unable to transfer backed up files or upgrade to Naugot 7.1 without being able to mount device.
Thanks! Jay

1sharpguy said:
Hello Roland...
Thank you for your help and informative response. I am still unable to mount my device (Touchpad) to my PC (Windows 7). I have described below what I have tried to do so far.
Which rom and build of Android 4.4.4 are you currently using?
I used the downloads from [ROM GUIDE] How to Install Android 7.x.x Nougat builds on the HP TouchPad
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By RolandDeschain79, Recognized Contributor on 3rd December 2016, 06:30 PM
Download Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Gapps, Recovery):
Rom:cm-11-20161219-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin.zip
Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip
Gapps:gapps-444-base-20160602-1-signed.zip
After switching from Media Device (MTP) to Camera (PTP), Windows was able to detect my device (TouchPad) and install the drivers. Despite the information displayed in Android Settings for USB Connections (Camera (PTP) lets you transfer photos using software, and transfer any files computers don't support MTP), I was only able to transfer photos/pictures. When I switched back to Media Device (MTP) file transfer, Windows could not detect my device. Instead, when I looked in device manager, Windows sees my device as a Samsung Android phone (which I have) and not a Touchpad.
I have attached a screen shot of the driver files in the submenu Android Composite ADB Interface. I even ran and update. All files were current with latest updates. Thus, for some reason Windows is seeing my Touchpad as a Samsung Android phone and not a Touchpad.
Any suggestions? I am unable to transfer backed up files or upgrade to Naugot 7.1 without being able to mount device.
Thanks! Jay
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Hi have you tried rebooting both the tablet and the PC, sometimes thats necessary. You might also try running the universal novacom installer again now that the tablet is detected here. I tested plugging in the tablet with the rom you're currently using on a virgin windows 10 setup and it worked fine, unfortunately I don't have a windows 7 system to test.
If nothing works you can always transfer the backed up files over the WiFi with a free app WiFi file transfer here
That should take care of your files if you're looking to upgrade with Nougat.
Hope this helps :fingers-crossed:

Yes...tried running Universal Novacom Installer a couple of different times without success (unable to USB mount Touchpad). Device Manager on PC allows me to uninstall Android Composite ADB Interface. Was thinking I might try that and see if I can get Windows to USB mount Touchpad and then search for compatible drivers. If that doesn't work, will try using Wifi Transfer as you suggest. Hopefully, that will get the Nougat files and backed up files transferred over to Touchpad.
Thank you for your help. Will post again when I know something more.
J

1sharpguy said:
Yes...tried running Universal Novacom Installer a couple of different times without success (unable to USB mount Touchpad). Device Manager on PC allows me to uninstall Android Composite ADB Interface. Was thinking I might try that and see if I can get Windows to USB mount Touchpad and then search for compatible drivers. If that doesn't work, will try using Wifi Transfer as you suggest. Hopefully, that will get the Nougat files and backed up files transferred over to Touchpad.
Thank you for your help. Will post again when I know something more.
J
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No problem, I've got one more thing for you to try. Found this in an older post of mine from 2012, back when I was using windows 7. Give it a try, you can always use the WiFi transfer app but it might take a while to complete. Good luck:good:
Note: Windows users may need to do the following in order to attach the Touchpad with the USB cable.
1. Go into Device manager. You will see "MTP USB Device" under portable devices.
2. Right Click it and select update driver software
3. Select Browse my computer for driver software
4. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer
5. Select USB Mass Storage Device then click next

Finally!! I was able to get Windows to install the MTP drivers using the method you proposed in your last reply. Took a bit of monkeying around with. Not exactly sure what I did, but it worked. Was able to transfer backed up files and Nougat files to Touchpad. Soooo...went through steps install Nougat. Everything seem to load fine. However, got an error message at boot for Evervolv and am unable to load Nougat. Error message is as follows...
Selected: 'boot Evervolv'
Loading '/boot/uImage.Evervolv'...Ok
Checking uImage...Invalid size
BOOT FAILED!
Press SELECT to continue
I presume what it means by press SELECT to continue is to press the home key. When I do so, it takes me into the boot menu moboot 0.3.8
boot TWRP
boot webOS
boot Evervolv
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
When I try to boot again in Evervolv, I get the same error message over again.
What do you think?

Oh yeah (full disclosure)...one more thing. In step 10 of your Rom Guide it says "-Select the System partition and swipe to wipe." I did this, but repeated it four different times because I didn't realize I had to touch the little home icon at the bottom of the page to return to the install button on the main menu. Not sure whether it would have had any effect on the install, but the error was a invalid size of uImage so wondering if by swiping to wipe the system partition so many times that I messed something up. That was the only thing I did that was different from your video and Rom Guide.

1sharpguy said:
Finally!! I was able to get Windows to install the MTP drivers using the method you proposed in your last reply. Took a bit of monkeying around with. Not exactly sure what I did, but it worked. Was able to transfer backed up files and Nougat files to Touchpad. Soooo...went through steps install Nougat. Everything seem to load fine. However, got an error message at boot for Evervolv and am unable to load Nougat. Error message is as follows...
Selected: 'boot Evervolv'
Loading '/boot/uImage.Evervolv'...Ok
Checking uImage...Invalid size
BOOT FAILED!
Press SELECT to continue
I presume what it means by press SELECT to continue is to press the home key. When I do so, it takes me into the boot menu moboot 0.3.8
boot TWRP
boot webOS
boot Evervolv
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
When I try to boot again in Evervolv, I get the same error message over again.
What do you think?
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I'ts probably just a corrupt download, I've read this complaint before. Redownload the Nougat files and reinstall the recovery, rom and gapps.
1sharpguy said:
Oh yeah (full disclosure)...one more thing. In step 10 of your Rom Guide it says "-Select the System partition and swipe to wipe." I did this, but repeated it four different times because I didn't realize I had to touch the little home icon at the bottom of the page to return to the install button on the main menu. Not sure whether it would have had any effect on the install, but the error was a invalid size of uImage so wondering if by swiping to wipe the system partition so many times that I messed something up. That was the only thing I did that was different from your video and Rom Guide.
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Wiping a blank partition won't hurt the tablet, its just a bad download. Right under swipe to wipe its says go back to main menu... I could add click the home button to return to the main menu, if you think that would help. This is why I have both a video and a written guide, I'd recommend using both resources simultaneously.
Edit: I double checked the video and I tell you to press the home button and return to the main menu here
10)Reboot into TWRP recovery 3.0.3.0, Flash the Android 7.1 Rom and Gapps
-Once in the new TWRP 3.0.3.0 go to the Wipe menu and select Advanced Wipe.
-Select the System partition and swipe to wipe.
-go back to the main menu and select Install, locate the download folder on the left menu
-select and install the 7.1 Rom and the Gapps package then reboot.
Note: The first boot to android 7.1 can take sometime, Wait for it...

That was it. Corrupt download. After downloading Nougat again and reinstalling, eventually Android 7.1 booted and is now loaded. Yeeees!!! The bad news is that Nougat on my device is very unstable and sloooow. I was more impressed with Android KitKat. If something doesn't change with 7.1, I will probably revert back to KitKat. After having gone through this exercise, I feel more empowered (confident) to make such changes. Although frustrating at times, succeeding in switching out WebOS for Android was a great learning experience and a big deal for me (I never do these kind of things). For someone with virtually no skills or experience in this kind of thing, it was well worth it to give it a go. I just hated the thought of seeing this TouchPad turn into a boat anchor. Couldn't have done it without you Roland. Your video and instructions (along with followup support to the forum) was invaluable. Although I am feeling nostalgic for WebOS (I really liked that operating system. Wish it had made it.), it has been fun to breath new life into these HP TouchPads with Android.
I'm sorry you seemed to misunderstand my point from my previous thread about repeatedly wiping the system files. I was not being critical of your video or instructions, but rather trying to give as much information to you and the forum to try and understand why I was unable to get Nougat to boot. You have done a great job with conveying the steps for loading Android on TouchPads. You deserve a huge :good: for your trouble. Thanks again for all your input and helping me get her sorted out. Good on ya mate!!

1sharpguy said:
That was it. Corrupt download. After downloading Nougat again and reinstalling, eventually Android 7.1 booted and is now loaded. Yeeees!!! The bad news is that Nougat on my device is very unstable and sloooow. I was more impressed with Android KitKat. If something doesn't change with 7.1, I will probably revert back to KitKat. After having gone through this exercise, I feel more empowered (confident) to make such changes. Although frustrating at times, succeeding in switching out WebOS for Android was a great learning experience and a big deal for me (I never do these kind of things). For someone with virtually no skills or experience in this kind of thing, it was well worth it to give it a go. I just hated the thought of seeing this TouchPad turn into a boat anchor. Couldn't have done it without you Roland. Your video and instructions (along with followup support to the forum) was invaluable. Although I am feeling nostalgic for WebOS (I really liked that operating system. Wish it had made it.), it has been fun to breath new life into these HP TouchPads with Android.
I'm sorry you seemed to misunderstand my point from my previous thread about repeatedly wiping the system files. I was not being critical of your video or instructions, but rather trying to give as much information to you and the forum to try and understand why I was unable to get Nougat to boot. You have done a great job with conveying the steps for loading Android on TouchPads. You deserve a huge :good: for your trouble. Thanks again for all your input and helping me get her sorted out. Good on ya mate!!
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Congratulations are in order for getting this all done, i'm happy to hear the experience has empowered you with confidence and knowledge. I appreciate the feedback, my guide is aimed at users with little to no experience who just want to keep their HP TouchPad going.
No apology needed I just take my guides seriously and i'm always looking to improve them or fix mistakes. You'll see below I've added portions of this conversations to my troubleshooting section to help other users here. I'm just glad I didn't mess up that step in the video cause you can't fix those, a forum post is much easier to edit.
Nougat is still being worked on but as with any new version of android there will be bugs. Shumashs has an overclocked kernel that can boost the performance of the Evervolv nougat rom. However I highly recommend CM11 for users just looking for a stable and reliable setup. I'm happy we could save your tablet, enjoy it and check back sometime to see how Nougat is coming along.
Edits from my install guide:
Help I get this Error message after installing the Evervolv Nougat rom
Selected: 'boot Evervolv'
Loading '/boot/uImage.Evervolv'...Ok
Checking uImage...Invalid size
BOOT FAILED!
Press SELECT to continue
Solution
-You've downloaded a corrupt file, delete it and re-download the Nougat files.
-Repeat step 10 of the guide, flash the Rom and Gapps package from TWRP recovery.
Can't mount USB drive with CM11 and Windows 7
-Plug the HP TouchPad into your PC with the USB cable
-Go into Device manager. You will see "MTP USB Device" under portable devices.
-Right Click it and select update driver software
-Select Browse my computer for driver software
-Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer
-Select USB Mass Storage Device then click next to install the driver
10)Reboot into TWRP recovery 3.0.3.0, Flash the Android 7.1 Rom and Gapps
-Once in the new TWRP 3.0.3.0 go to the Wipe menu and select Advanced Wipe.
-Select the System partition and swipe to wipe.
-Click on the TWRP home button(bottom middle) to return to the main menu.
-Select Install, locate the download folder on the left menu.
-Select and install the 7.1 Rom and the Gapps package then reboot.
-After choosing to install the rom click the button to add additional zips, add the gapps package and put a check beside reboot when complete.
Note: The first boot to android 7.1 can take sometime, Wait for it...

Cannot install novacom on Win 7

I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James

jamesking420 said:
I am having trouble with this.
I have tried the universal installer which correctly identifies it as 64bit system. But it fails at download stage, I guess because the file is no longer available where the installer is expecting it.
So then I tried running "NovacomInstaller_x64.msi" by double clicking it, which installs novacomd in my add/remove programs so it seemed to work. But when I run "tptb_v42_win.bat" it says
Code:
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
unable to find device
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
Press any key to continue . . .
The touchpad is definitely on the Web OS recovery screen and connected via USD so I assume it must be to do with drivers not installing properly. Any advice on how I can check drivers?
thanks,
James
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You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.

DoubleStuff said:
You can following this thread ( I have you start at post 405 ) where another user called @smithylovestouchpad had the same issue with novacom not connecting to the server, and he was able to use a backup PC and it worked....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016590&postcount=405
But that being said, your in luck James, because a "regular user" by his own admission, @HP_TOUCHPAD will be posting very soon what he likes to call "HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Recovery_Android", and with this, any user can perform the following tasks with one click on any computer:
1) Load the ToolBox (flash the A6 Firmware)
2) Fix /boot using Create_Boot ( If the Bermuda Triangle shows up ) or the Tablet can not boot.
3) Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap ( Total Data Reset )
4) If the Tablet needs to be set up only for Android.
5) Change the Ramdisk, make all setting modifications and create a Custom boot file.
HP_TOUCHPAD once said,
If the user ever needs help, the tablet can be setup "completely" by another user, even remotely running Automatic_Wipe to Android, all they need is an internet connection.
The Novacom Driver and Android ADB Shell will be permanent and fully working all the time regardless of the PC being used.
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Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James

jamesking420 said:
Thank you for your help. In the end a combination of installing and reinstalling novacom, restarting, and then plugging in the touchpad to a different USB port finally sorted it out! Then I used your tool to get a ROM etc on there.
Do you have any particular recommendation for a smooth ROM? Doesn't have to be latest version of Android, just something that runs super snooth!
I've installed Dirty Unicrorn Pi but it's a bit laggy. It'll be fine to use fit it's intended purpose, but anything that improves on this would be appreciated.
Cheers,
James
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I am curious to what install process you have used to install the Dirty Unicorn Pie? Please respond, its nice to see what install processes some users are using....like what speed of Universal swap settings did you install?, did you use ROM reducer?
In the meantime since you have Novacom and TPTB installed try this process to install maybe Nougat, Oreo or Pie ( with /swap ) or KitKat or Lollipop. Once you read the OP it will direct you to the key Android versions to install on HP_TOUCHPAD's page.
I currently use KitKat and I am fine with that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861

Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.

jamesking420 said:
Hi,
Thanks again for the advice.
I booted in to TPToolbox
Ran Complete Data Reset
You don't have to do a Complete Data Reset anymore with the TPToolbox if your going to run TPTB_WireAll_TWRP_02_win.bat or flash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition, it almost seems like your combining three different methods of installs, because TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat actually flashes Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition in the background and that actually does a complete data reset and creates a 500 Mb swap partition, and re-creates the system, cache, media and data partitions with sizes of 2200 Mb, 200 Mb, 500 Mb, and "rest of memory" respectively, also automatically installs version 3.2.1-0 of TWRP which is required for the other ZIPs.
Only use TPToolbox to flash A6 firmware, or look at partition sizes.
Then rebooted to WebOS recovery.
Ran the ."TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" which ended up with me in TWRP.
Then I installed ROM, reducer, gapps, optimiser, recovery, and super user via TWRP and it all raun when rebooted.
Now - another question - my second touchpad - It is currently sitting in the Touchpad toolbox screen. My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
I've already ran "Complete Data Reset" but wasn't able to run the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win.bat" before my windows PC got Blue Screen of Death!
So now I can copy zips to my touchpad and potentially install android, gapps, recovery using the tool. Then I figured I'd go in to recovery and flash "Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition" and start again.
How are you copying zips to your touchpad if your PC does not work? Once you
flashed Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap_Partition it should get you to a
TWRP Recovery install screen, and you can then flash your zips, no need to use TPToolbox as I said before. Essentially TPToolbox is an "old school" method now. And flashing from TWRP Recovery you don't need compatible zips, that is a bug of TP Toolbox that has not been fixed.
The problem I have is I cannot flash android/recovery/gapps with TP Toolbox as I need a set of three compatible files.. Can anyone point me to a set of such files? Or another way of doing this from TP Toolbox - remember - I can't currently run anything on a PC!
I am curious, even if we point you to a set of such files, how are you going to copy them from a broken PC?, and see above for another way of doing this than from TPToolbox, if you can get into TWRP recovery and have zips on your Touchpad your all set.
This wouldn't be desperately urgent if it weren't for the fact that my mum wants to use these devices as digital photoframes on Thursday (my grandads funeral!).
Any help would be appreciated.
Currently I have
du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190328-1316-RC.zip
FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip
I downloaded a zip from Open Gapps but TP Toolbox says its not compatible and will not flash.
Your PIE version above is the latest version, good. But the TWRP 2.8.3 version above is "old school" we are currently at this version FLINTMAN-TWRP-3.2.1-0-03-15-2018, and like I said above the "Wipe All" methods automatically install this latest TWRP version, so no need to flash an "old school" TWRP's afterwords.
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I made comments above in blue. Here is my summary.
Because your PC broke, like you said "blue screen of death, RAM corruption". This is the very reason that @HP_TOUCHPAD is thinking "outside the box" trying to create an environment that users will not be dependent on a PC anymore. He is in the process of creating this environment, but lets give him time. For by his own admission he is just a regular user, he is learning, experimenting, creating and testing. He is also documenting his findings for all of us to read, learn and apply. So let us do our due diligence and do the best we can.

I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now

jamesking420 said:
I have a raspberry pi computer I can use that I can copy files to/from with but I cannot install novacom drivers on it as they are not compatible, as far as I'm aware.
I think I might have found a suitable grouping of ROM/gapps/recovery I can flash with tptoolbox - literally trying again now
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This appears to be working to install a KK ROM so I will see if it comes up and I can then run the various flashes.
PS - yes - I did think that running Complete Data Reset and the "TPTB_WipeAll_TWRP_v02_win" was probably unecessary but I'd already run Complete Data Reset before I realised that it probably was overkill. Since this process worked I decided to do it again on the second touchpad, but the Windows PC died before I got the chance. But I had already run the process to load TPToolbox on to the tablet. So I'm now flashing TWRP v2.8.3.0 (data media), a KK ROM, and some KK compatible GApps using TPToolbox.
I hope that after that I can use the recovery I have loaded to install a new ROM, Rom Reducer, SU, Optimiser, GApps, and a more recent Recovery.

jamesking420 said:
snip...
My PC has just broken (RAM corruption), I only have a Raspberry Pi which is not compatible with novacom drivers.
...snip
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I learn something new everyday, I just googled Raspberry Pi and its some sort of tiny, dual-display, desktop computer. At first I thought it was some sort of "Rogue ROM", I guess we can always learn something new everyday, like last month I learned to play Run Race 3d and I am not even a gamer.
And yesterday I wrote a program in a UNIX language called "AWK"

Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!

jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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As per your comment recovery ( again?! ), only flash recovery if you want a different version than what the Wipe all zip flashes ( currently flashes TWRP 3.2.1 ), lets say in the future nobody is updating the Wipe all zip, and it still flashes TWRP 3.2.1, but you see a newer version of TWRP 4.1 compatible with the touchpad, then you can flash that at the tail end, or if your fond of an older version like TWPR 2.8, same thing.

Thanks - yes - I want sure if Wipe all Zip was flashing or just into TWRP so I flashed it again just to be on the safe side. Because it was called wioe ask I thought maybe it wasn't actually flashing anything new, just wiping and booting.
Anyway, thanks for your help it was very useful.

jamesking420 said:
Yep it worked - so I then was in recovery on the device and I ran the Wipe all zip and then I flashed ROM, Optimiser, Reducer, Gapps, SU, recovery (again?!) and now it looks like it is loading in to Dirty Unicorn Pi.
I will have a play with it on the the max MHz optimiser kernel and then see if I want to stick with this or move on to an older/less system intensive ROM.
Thank you for your help!
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The HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android guide:
Click HERE for the Guide and File
A live Linux CD, just boot it from any PC, no installation is need it and have full control of the Tablet for ever !

Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

jamesking420 said:
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure it will be useful for many people.
Unfortunately on the way home from the funeral I left the two touchpads on top of the car as I was putting my kids in their car seats. They feel off at a roundabout which I imagine caused some damage. We turned around and went back for then and someone has nicked them! Ah well!
At 8 years old and costing less than £100 each they'd had a good innings.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
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That is very unfortunate, but there is nothing to worry. The Tablets can be found for $10 anywhere and you maybe surprise to find in a dumpster somewhere.
But it can be revive to its full working conditions and all the files are posted on here, it only takes a click and is done!