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Any idea if the unlocked version of Tmobile Nexus 6 will work on Verizon network?
Im asking because there is only one Nexus for all carries in U.S.A
I would do so because Tmobile version for sure wont locked bootloader, unlock it and use it on Verizon.
If nexus legend holds true it should come with an unlockable boot loader like all the other nexus. N7 was compatible with Verizon and it was the same device across the other carriers. If the carrier locks the phone I'd be very surprised.
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There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
Pilz said:
There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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Thats what google said which is why its implied that all carriers will get the same phone. Google has more control over what carriers can do so it should be a good change.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...of-the-worldhere-are-all-the-supported-bands/
Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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xda23 said:
Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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That seems about right, I think its fair for what you are getting. Also Nexus devices retain their value extremely well.
Sorry if this has been asked before but will buying the nexus 6 through tmobile(to make payments) be the same version as the google play one. I dont want all that tmobile bloatware on it but never bought a nexus via a carrier?
At this point no one has any idea, phones not even out
I got my nexus 5 at T-Mobile.. Its stock no bloatware. Even came in a google branded box. I highly doubt they would add bloatware as it would slow the update process if each carrier had its bloat on their own version.
^ yup. I bought my N4 from tmobile directly. It was stock android goodness, no tmobile my account crap on it at all lol
xxfirerican said:
Sorry if this has been asked before but will buying the nexus 6 through tmobile(to make payments) be the same version as the google play one. I dont want all that tmobile bloatware on it but never bought a nexus via a carrier?
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Nexus never comes with carrier bloat.
shook187 said:
At this point no one has any idea, phones not even out
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At this point everyone noticed you have never owned a nexus.
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Galaxy Nexus for Sprint and Verizon had bloatware iirc
Nexus devices through T-Mobile never go through any sort of carrier tampering. Others I cannot comment on but T-Mobile has a strict and well established relationship with Google with the carrier sale of these devices.
The fact that T-Mobile is working with Google Engineers to make Wi-Fi Calling work with their help is insisting they will not tamper with the OS on their end, that if they want anything done they will do it through the official arm of Google Engineers.
T-Mobile is likely the safest carrier to buy a Nexus device from, count on it.
oneplus said:
Nexus never comes with carrier bloat.
At this point everyone noticed you have never owned a nexus.
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lol this guy
I'm assuming you never bought a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint or Verizon.
At this point nobody has any idea whether carriers will add bloat to the Nexus 6. It's foolish to believe they wouldn't try...and considering the carriers have never really sold Nexus devices without it, the question is whether Google won out and got the carriers to sell the devices without it or the carriers won out.
I had the nexus 5 through sprint and there was not any bloat added. Just pure google greatness
I'm hoping it's a bit of Good/Bad News. Bad news being that YES, the carriers will auto-install crap, but that it is easily removable (hopefully) But knowing AT&T (not the OP's concern) they'll screww their customers.
Ars Technica Article http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
Setup in Lollipop is also taking on the responsibility of pre-installed carrier apps (aka crapware) with a new feature called "Play Auto Install." Rather than permanently storing carrier apps on the system partition, which currently is the only way to have apps persist across device wipes, Play Auto Install will download carrier apps during the setup process. This will put them in the data partition and allow them to be completely uninstalled by users. The download process then allows carriers to change the apps they would like to preload on a device without having to issue a system update. Pre-installed apps on carrier-controlled devices are never going away, but with Play Auto Install, Google is giving both sides more options. Everyone wins—assuming carriers stop installing things on the system partition.
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I'm hoping it's a bit of Good/Bad News. Bad news being that YES, the carriers will auto-install crap, but that it is easily removable (hopefully) But knowing AT&T (not the OP's concern) they'll screww their customers.
Ars Technica Article http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
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That quote doesn't say the nexus 6 will have bloat.
Des on Twitter said it's unlocked and no bloat.
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mk92595 said:
That quote doesn't say the nexus 6 will have bloat.
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No it doesn't, but since we were just guessing, the article is showing that Google has developed an additional, albeit easier, built-in means of installing the carrier bloat. As for AT&T, their corporate culture is to lock them down and install crapware, so I'm not too optimistic that I would get a pure Nexus. I'm just hopeful that AT&T would take the easy and faster route by using the built-in Google process and that it would be removable.
pfft, damn AT&T
I'm on T-Mobile, and would prefer to buy it from them because I can just pay it month by month or if I want, more each month. You guys get it.
Anyways, are the phones the exact same on the Google Play store and buying it straight from T-Mobile?
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I'm on T-Mobile, and would prefer to buy it from them because I can just pay it month by month or if I want, more each month. You guys get it.
Anyways, are the phones the exact same on the Google Play store and buying it straight from T-Mobile?
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Its also important to note that all review devices that were sent out were all T-Mobile versions due to the manual, insinuating that Google's main stock is likely indistinguishable from T-Mobile's stock of the N6 in terms of "differences" between. Also the head Product Manager at T-Mobile confirmed that there will be no carrier bloat or tampering with their stock of the N6.
Buying from T-Mobile is the safest carrier when it comes to Nexus devices. They have never tampered with Nexus devices before and its going to be the same for this Nexus.
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Its also important to note that all review devices that were sent out were all T-Mobile versions due to the manual, insinuating that Google's main stock is likely indistinguishable from T-Mobile's stock of the N6 in terms of "differences" between. Also the head Product Manager at T-Mobile confirmed that there will be no carrier bloat or tampering with their stock of the N6.
Buying from T-Mobile is the safest carrier when it comes to Nexus devices. They have never tampered with Nexus devices before and its going to be the same for this Nexus.
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This is great because we potentially walk into store and pick up the N6 earlier than Google play delivery. One thing I worry about is any difference in CID that may delay OTAs? Is it the consensus here that besides that piece of manual, the phones are identical?
mehdi_s82 said:
This is great because we potentially walk into store and pick up the N6 earlier than Google play delivery. One thing I worry about is any difference in CID that may delay OTAs? Is it the consensus here that besides that piece of manual, the phones are identical?
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The Nexus 5 I got from T-Mobile received the same exact updates and used the same exact software as the Play Store version. The only difference was the T-Mobile logo on the box, and with reviewers receiving a mix of carrier / unlocked devices when it comes to the Nexus 6 it looks like Google is treating them as identical as well.
So, is the N6 that T-Mobile sells unlocked just like the one they sell at the Play Store?
XxKINGxX2580 said:
So, is the N6 that T-Mobile sells unlocked just like the one they sell at the Play Store?
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You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
Anyone know if t-mobile will sell the white version of the N6?
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Anyone know if t-mobile will sell the white version of the N6?
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Not right now, Only Blue is being sold online and in store at release. Perhaps down the road they might sell the white version but right now they are focused on selling only the Blue.
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/google-nexus-6.html
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You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
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I meant unlocked as in carrier unlocked. I know Nexus devices are ridiculously easy to unlock and root.
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Yep. Everything in the box is identical to the Play Store version except for the manual, which has a T-Mobile logo on it instead of the Nexus logo.
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Maybe...maybe not...if everything was identical, really identical, why would this reviewer's retail packaging have "GPE" as in Google Play Edition appended to the end of the model #? Would Motorola really have a separate model # just due to the manual?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go10RfUMSRA&feature=youtu.be&t=6s
(screencap appears 6 seconds in)
People keep getting hardware confused with firmware. The HARDWARE is going to be the same, but until we actually see the phone at T-Mobile, there's no way to know whether it will have the same FIRMWARE. They could quite easily have their own custom firmware (that may be nothing more than added bloat). I'm not saying that this will happen, but it could, and anyone who comes on here and says that it is definitely 100% identical in every way is making an assumption. That assumption may turn out to be true, but at this point, it is still an assumption, not a fact. The same is true for all of the other carriers too. If T-Mobile ends up not having their own firmware, that doesn't absolutely prove that, say, Verizon wont.
Having said that, it's a good sign that some review units seemed to be T-Mobile units, without additional bloat. But keep in mind that often "Review" units are pre-release units, and may not be the same as the final product. So, it still doesn't PROVE that the final T-Mobile units won't have different firmware.
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People keep getting hardware confused with firmware. The HARDWARE is going to be the same, but until we actually see the phone at T-Mobile, there's no way to know whether it will have the same FIRMWARE. They could quite easily have their own custom firmware (that may be nothing more than added bloat). I'm not saying that this will happen, but it could, and anyone who comes on here and says that it is definitely 100% identical in every way is making an assumption. That assumption may turn out to be true, but at this point, it is still an assumption, not a fact. The same is true for all of the other carriers too. If T-Mobile ends up not having their own firmware, that doesn't absolutely prove that, say, Verizon wont.
Having said that, it's a good sign that some review units seemed to be T-Mobile units, without additional bloat. But keep in mind that often "Review" units are pre-release units, and may not be the same as the final product. So, it still doesn't PROVE that the final T-Mobile units won't have different firmware.
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From the mouth of the head Product Manager at T-Mobile.
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From the mouth of the head Product Manager at T-Mobile.
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Assuming that ends up being true, and they don't change their mind at the last minute (which would certainly be very unlike T-Mobile), then the OP question seems answered. That doesn't mean anything in regards to the other carriers yet, but the OP didn't ask about them.
Thanks for that, Dr Faustus.
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Assuming that ends up being true, and they don't change their mind at the last minute (which would certainly be very unlike T-Mobile), then the OP question seems answered. That doesn't mean anything in regards to the other carriers yet, but the OP didn't ask about them.
Thanks for that, Dr Faustus.
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If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
amberkalvin said:
If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
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The reason it's been answered so many different ways is that people are really just guessing, or assuming that the same hardware means it will work. The reality is a bit different though.
If you'd said you wanted to take it to AT&T, I'd say it'd almost certainly work, but Verizon, like other CDMA carriers, has been known in the past to whitelist IMEI numbers, and refuse to activate units not on that list. Units sent to that carrier, units sent out directly from the manufacturer (e.g. warranty replacements), and units sent to contractual partners (like the Play Store) are always added to the whitelist. This is why you can be virtually certain that Play Store units will work on Verizon. (Although, as the 2013 version of the Nexus 7 showed, it may take some time.) However, there is enough history to seriously question whether units sent to other carriers will be allowed.
In truth, we simply don't know, and there's NO WAY to know until someone tries it.
Well, I understand the logic behind that. Wouldn't that mean that since most if not all of the test phones sent out were tmobile phones, the video showing that one working on verizon posted by Droid Life prove that it should work.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
Time will tell, I understand. I just want one so badly. I've never wanted to pay full retail for a phone so badly only to have it become unavailable immediately upon release.
The phone is unlocked unbranded and no bloat.
Why do people keep asking and debating and questioning?
@askdes has answered all this. If anybody would know, it would be him.
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amberkalvin said:
If everything said in this thread is true, and the phone is unlocked, I should be able to walk into a t-mobile on launch day and purchase one to use on Verizon. Correct?
I know that this has been answered several different ways and everyone keeps saying same phone, but just confirming... lol I want to be sure.
Thanks!
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Yes....and no.
It would work the same regardless of US Carrier as long as you have a working sim for that carrier to use in the N6.
BUT. And this is a pretty big BUT, T-Mobile stores have confirmed that they will NOT be selling the N6 straight out without contract. They will only sell the device with the intent of selling a plan/upgrade of current customers. Not an off contract purchase.
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You mean unlocked as in it can be used on multiple carriers and outside the country? Or unlocked as in the bootloader?
Because if its the former, YES. T-Mobile have sold Nexus devices under the guise of a "World Phone" before, stating that because its not locked by carrier or region it can be used with any Sim in any country depending if the service can support the radios the Nexus has.
If the latter is the question you mean, then technically YES. By default the Nexus devices have a locked bootloader, however its not secure and can be easily unlocked and rooted all the same. T-Mobile does not tamper with locking the bootloader on any of their devices and have not ever done so with the Nexus devices they have sold previously before. This just like previous Nexus hardware will be easy to unlock and root!
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Small correction. T-Mo will lock bootloaders of Sony devices only.
Is there anyone else who will get their Nexus 6 from Verizon? I will give it a try for a couple of weeks assuming I can easily root and install a custom recovery.
Nope. Got mine months ago and am already using it on Verizon.
I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
ronaldheld said:
I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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Safe to say multiple people will buy it. Not sure what the point of this is?
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
ronaldheld said:
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
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I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry about kernels and locked bootloaders.
johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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ronaldheld said:
johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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akellar said:
ronaldheld said:
4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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This is true, but we know how Verizon likes to lock up their phones. I am more optimistic than a few hours ago.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.[/QUOTEI am only slightly concerned.
Verizon tends to be pretty good about upgrades and such which is why I am with them.
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Except for the locked phones I am reasonable satisfied with Verizon.
Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?
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Hey everyone,
Does anyone know if Amazon has it's own special set of IMEI ranges and if it does, the compatibility of that range? I've been doing a lot of research, but to no avail.
Perhaps the carriers have finally gotten mostly on board and this is no longer an issue?
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I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.
cam30era said:
I believe that Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't "white list" phones that aren't bought directly from them.
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No longer true
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No longer true
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So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?
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So they now will supply SIM cards for non VZW purchased devices and give BYOD credit for Edge customers?
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Yep have for a couple months now
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akellar said:
Yep have for a couple months now
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I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
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So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?
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So, given that, now all Nexus 6 devices, regardless of purchase location, now work with at least all 4 major carriers in the US? If that's the case, is there still an advantage to paying full price to get one directly from Google or Amazon, rather than free financing from any carrier?
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Phones purchased from AT&T come "carrier locked" (i.e. SIM) to AT&T. You can get an unlock code from AT&T once the device is paid off.
The bootloader is unlockable (like all N6 devices), and you can flash any ROM. And they will work on any network once SIM unlocked from AT&T.
Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?
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Ok, so I'm trying to put together a definitive statement for anyone else that finds this because I spent a lot of time not finding the answer and reading old news articles.
So, correct me if the following is wrong:
Any Nexus 6 purchased from any location will work on any major carrier, provided the device is sim unlocked eventually. Currently AT&T sim locks theirs, until you pay off the device. Therefore purchasing any used Nexus 6, provided a clean ESN and carrier unlocked, will also work on all major US carriers.
Is that all correct?
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Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).
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Yes, correct for XT1103 for North America. And XT1100 is for the rest of the world (I.e. non North America).
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Awesome, thanks for your help everyone! I hope this is useful to future N6 buyers too.