I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
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The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
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Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....
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Whenver I'm charging via wall charger or USB my captivate is super duper SLOOOWWW. It takes forever to switch screens, the keyboard doesn't function correctly, and my bluetooth won't sync. As soon as I disconnect the charge everything is back to normal.
Any ideas?
No replies? Sooo...Am I the ONLY one?
be patient for answers here
Ive noticed it charges slowly but I have not noticed it being slow while charging.
The theoretical output of the charger is .7 amps, and thats not very much in the smartphone world these days. When I am using it and it is plugged in, it charges roughly a percent every eight minutes. The .7 amps must be just enough to cover the phone being on and in use.
I am currently looking around for chargers in the 1 amp range. My old tilt 2 charger works great for that and i definitely saw a charge time improvement. I would love to have one with a greater than 1amp output but I dont think you can find them anywhere
Are you running SetCPU with set profiles ?
If Yes : that is the problem , adjust profile.
If Not : must be something else, not a common behavior.
I read this on another forum but someone mentioned changing the default usb setting from Kies to something something else may help.
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matthewpapa said:
I am currently looking around for chargers in the 1 amp range. My old tilt 2 charger works great for that and i definitely saw a charge time improvement. I would love to have one with a greater than 1amp output but I dont think you can find them anywhere
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Ordered these the other day. Just combine them with a USB cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
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No replies? Sooo...Am I the ONLY one?
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No, mine doesnt do that. It runs the same whether its plugged into the wall charger or not.
derek4484 said:
No, mine doesnt do that. It runs the same whether its plugged into the wall charger or not.
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same, get your phone replaced whole you still can
Jack45 said:
Ordered these the other day. Just combine them with a USB cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
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if u had an iphone charger can we use that , that has 1A rating too ?
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if u had an iphone charger can we use that , that has 1A rating too ?
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As long as the output is 5 volts, you're o.k.
My captivate runs the same while charging but the actual process of charging the phone takes forever it seems. I've only had it a couple days now and I have to get used to killing some tasks while charging because I actually think the battery life was decreasing as it charged.
Incidentally, the display is the real killer on the battery...most tasks don't really eat as much battery life in comparison.
Recent Nokia chargers will work with a slight mod to the plug where it fits the phone,
After Pimping out my phone it works fine while charging now. Yea screen eats up like 82% of batteries resources...OUCH!
Just search for Motorola P513 on Amazon. Rapid rate car charger! And, belive me, it's perfect fit! Now on sale for $5.85 (was $29.99).
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I agree with the device charging slowly (but then again it doesn't help that I'm using it while it charges) but I have not had any performance issues.
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for those of you who have a old iphone/ipod touch charger block, use that instead.
its rated for 5V/1A output, higher than the 5V/.7A output on the default samsung charging block.
that should charge the phone much faster
I have the same issue with charging, no matter what charger I use (iPhone, Tilt, USB), it's all VERY painfully slow. I've been as high as 1% per 6 minutes (rare - when using Nokia charger (1.2A I believe) to 1% per 13 minutes via USB.
I'm thinking it might be something internal to the actual phone. The iPhone didn't take this long even with USB charging through a computer or LCD monitor. Heck, the iPhone on average was 90 seconds per 1% of battery. I could have a nearly dead phone and be fully charged and ready in less than an hour and a half.
Anyone else think the same?
yea i think it might be something related to the phone indeed. this is, in my opinion, the biggest problem. i'm always on the go and i depend on my phone so much that if it doesn't charge fast enough i'm screwed.
let me make a post in the galaxy s forum and see if there's battery charging problems
Everyone else is charging.
littleasian said:
yea i think it might be something related to the phone indeed. this is, in my opinion, the biggest problem. i'm always on the go and i depend on my phone so much that if it doesn't charge fast enough i'm screwed.
let me make a post in the galaxy s forum and see if there's battery charging problems
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which thread is that? I'm curious to track that one as well. I have gotten 4 other people to purchase the Captivate from the iPhone and we are all on the same boat..even with a 1.2A charger from my N97 (which only lasted 3 weeks with me...but can't wait for the N8), it takes about 4 hours to charge the battery...something's wrong there. It shouldn't take less to drain the battery than to charge it!
Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
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Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
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It depends on what the voltage rating for the phone is, if it is 5v, i believe it should be ok, you may find it actually charges slightly faster, if the voltage is higher thats when you can cause damage though.
I am not 100% sure on this maybe someone else can confirm
Phone: 3.7 V, 1000 mA
Battery: 3.7 V, 1500 mAh
Original Nexus S Charger: 5 V, 700 mA
Nokia AC-10 charger: 5 V, 1200 mA
Charge time = battery mAh / charger mA = 1500 / 1200 = 1.25 h = 75 mins
So the NS battery should charge in 75 mins with the Nokia AC-10 charger.
So all the chargers are 5 V rated, ranging from 500 mA (USB cable) to 1200 mA this Nokia charger. For example, with the HTC Desire, I had an 1000 mA charger that worked flawlessly.
LE: Never mind, I found the response. Sorry for making another thread on this matter, but I didn't find the other topic when I first searched the threads. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897935
If a mod sees this thread, please, do delete it, because it's useless now. Thanks a lot anyway !
Just on a side note: Your phone will not necessarily charge faster just because your wall charger can supply more current.
It depends on the charging circuit inside your phone, too. If your Nokia charger and the Nexus S conform to the USB charging specification, the phone will know how much current the charger can supply by the resistance between data+ and data- on the USB-plug. But how much current it draws is up to the phone.
Also, charging LiIon batteries is not as straight forward as (battery mAh)/(charger mA).
It will (most likely) be charged constant current at first and later switched to constant voltage top off charge. I read somewhere that the faster you charge at the beginning, the longer the top off will take.
So you will only gain time, if the supplied wall charger was too weak anyway and why should Samsung do that?
In any case, if you want to try anything you should be sure to be inside USB specs. I think it is 5V +- 5%, so from 4,75V to 5,25V. Less should not be a problem, but (much) more can and will fry your phone.
Good to know, thanks a lot ! Maybe I'll come back here with a comparison between stock charger and the Nokia one (in a couple of days).
most definitely not
i'm using a 2Amp car charger, and it charges really fast, even when the phone is ON, full brightness, gps + streaming BT to car audio
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Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
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i would think that it would charge faster with your nokia charger but your phone will get hotter than normal. i experience this when i use my 1A charger. 1.2A will make it even warmer. i hope you dont overheat your phone.
ps. fast chargers (15 min chargers) for Ni-Mh batteries have 7.5A. those kind of chargers come with fans on them to cool the batteries while charging because it gets really hot.
Ok guys, thanks a lot, I'll keep in mind all you said. Unfortunately, I've come across a dead Nokia AC-10 charger (don't ask, lol), so I will need to get another one tomorrow. After that I'll compare the 2.
The charging circuit (in the fone) tries to stop the battery blowing up and overheating by pulsing the charge until the battery reaches 70%+ when it drops off and the charge creeps up to 97% (all values approx) when the carge circuit switches off and we are left with a fone at 97%+ (other threads on this topic itself !)
I experimented with standard Nexus AC (700mA) and USB Wall Charger (1000 mAH) and Laptop USB Cable (500 mA) and 1 am disappointed at not being able to get a FAST charge in the thing. Here is a plot of the AC Charge (700 mA charger). It never gets used a full power !
http://www.lacbayvilla.com/images/chargingfromAC.png
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
The nokia charger might not be isolated enough from mains. Too much ripple or whatever. It is unlikely IMHO, that it supplies too much current, since it is no current source, but a voltage source.
in case any one wants to know
2 Amps (2000 mAh) Blackberry charger
this is exactly the one i purchased from them http://www.dealextreme.com/p/design...lackberry-9800-9700-8900-8520-dc-10-30v-57622
been using it for over a year now, since i had my old BB and SGS i9000 and kept using the same one for SNS
i use it on a daily basis, as the first thing i do when i get on the car is to plug the charger and put the phone on winshield
Interesting enough, another one from the store has the same effect. Also, on my girlfriend's HTC Wildfire it has the same effect. Guess Nokia sucks as this as well. GG Nokia, keep it like this and you'll eventually fall like the rest of them...
I have noticed too that when the fone is on charge, the screen sensitivity is maxed out and phantom touches can occur all over the place. So much so that I unplug the charger to send sms as I can't type well enough for the spill chucker to guess what language I am using let alone what the word might be !
Anyone found the cause of this annoyance ?
lambda30 said:
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
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The voltage is not current.
It used to happen on my desire when i bought a 99 cents micro USB charger.
By the way i ordered a AC 10 E yesterday so i am a bit worried now.
What the hell did you bump this old ass thread for? So that you can post in the dev thread?
lambda30 said:
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
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I encountered the same situation like you, and I know many people do. I was told by my cell phone supplier that it's all due to the unstable current, which causes magnetic field to influence the scree. Or something like that. My phone even typed words or made calls by itself when charging, I can hardly control it until I stop using the charger. When I connect it to PC with USB cable to get charged or use another charger, everything goes well. So I suggest you stop using the charger on your phone. It might cause damage to it.
Charged mine with a nexus 7 charger, which had at least 2 Amps... Worked fine for me...
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I use 2000 to and i dont have problems.
This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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I use my girlfriend's charger to charge my Milestone all the time. The way I see it, so long as the output is not greater than the Motorola-shipped one, then I should be fine.
I used a friend's Nokia charger multiple times - and it's rated 5V and 1200mA - no damage either.
The Milestone is designed to be content with Moto's 850mA charger - so if a charger CAN deliver more - it doesn't mean the Milestone does receive more.
On the other hand - I did no longterm tests to see if the Milestone CAN charge quicker with a more powerful charger.
Long story short - as long as the charger doesn't exceed 5V (which will be hard to accomplish using an unmodified USB cable - you don't have to worry about anything.
If it fits -> plug it in ;-)
If it's a USB/micro-USB charger, it will work. The current rating on the charger is the maximum it's capable of supplying. It's up to the device how much of that will be drawn.
Well, I have a few experience with charges on my Milestone. In this case, it has no problem for you Milestone...but it will take more time to charge then other charger.
I have posted this before in another thread..
As long as its a USB-Port, you can charge everything that is charged via USB. They are all (basically) the same. Its like plugging your device into the USB-Port in you computer. You wouldnt worry about plugging something in there. Same applies to Car-Chargers.
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I have posted this before in another thread..
As long as its a USB-Port, you can charge everything that is charged via USB. They are all (basically) the same. Its like plugging your device into the USB-Port in you computer. You wouldnt worry about plugging something in there. Same applies to Car-Chargers.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
In my option, it important to check the volts before plug it on your phone and yes, you need to worry about plugging something in there...
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This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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I use a charger for my work BlackBerry to charge my Milestone on a regular basis without issue.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
In my option, it important to check the volts before plug it on your phone and yes, you need to worry about plugging something in there...
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mh. 12v is very uncommon. Idk, at least here in Germany (more or less whole european union) you dont have to worry about voltages. There is even a EU-Law that all phone charges can be used for every phone (USB-Based).
Sorry i dont know about the situation in T&B.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
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Either the Charger was violating the USB specifications (if he used a USB cable) or it coincidental used the same plug as Nokia used for their old phones.
I think that is OK, I had used BlackBerry chargers, ZTE chargers and Alcatel.. Different specs, but works OK (some of them slower than others, but are OK).
I think that there is no problem with that, just take a look to charge a phone using the PC and micro usb data cable.. Every coputer give to you different voltages and amp, but always works!
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Every coputer give to you different voltages and amp, but always works!
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Errrm, no.
USB always has to give 5V - more than that can cause serious damage.
The only problem with diffwrent chargers could be the current dofference, but with lower current capable chargers lile the motorola v8
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I used a droid charger on my moment and it made it go to force close hell
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I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
kalda01 said:
I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
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In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
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In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
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The dock is 1800mah, but the wall charger that came with the phone is only 1500mah,
does it mean I shouldn't use the same wall charger when charging via the dock ? Do I need a charger rated at least 1800mah ?
I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
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I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
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Last night tries to charge with same cable but a 2amp charger, and the dock did not heat up at all.
I really wonder if the original charger is faulty
Yeah it was like always, normal.
Thats possible, you can try it with another original charger and then you know whats going on, maybe..
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Can it cause any damage if using a 2.1amp wall charger instead of the original 1.5amp ?
I think the phone charges how much it needs/set. So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster. But i'm not sure also my explanation is bad I know
" So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster."
So it will not damage something. That I wanna say with this sentence
But for a 100% correctly answer an other person have to give an answer like a dev
The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
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The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
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I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
kalda01 said:
I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
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Ignore it, the phone will automatically shut itself down to protect itself long before the temperature is high enough to actually cause it any permanent damage. It's actually nice in my profession, warms the hands on freezing cold days.
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Which charger to use? (no quickcharge)
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
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10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
mohijavata said:
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
EDIT: I cannot post pictures on the forum just yet, so here are the specs
10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
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2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
danarama said:
2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
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I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
mohijavata said:
I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
mohijavata said:
Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
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Yes.
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. Which is tested by Motorola to work properly. I've had my Nexus 6 since December 2014 and no problems. I charge through my laptop will at work though.
logicrulez said:
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. . .
I charge through my laptop will at work though.
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He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
NLBeev said:
He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
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He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
danarama said:
He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
NLBeev said:
And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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Nope. So the only thing that will change is his phone will take longer to charge.
That said for me, turbo charge stopped working and I'm very annoyed.
Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
I have this charger, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-F8J031TT04-BLK-Micro-Wall-car-Chrg-Kit-2.1a-10w-W-4ft/40457559, but i got just the charger for $20. It most definitely doesnt turbo charge, it takes atleast 2 hours, so id say its a "normal" charge for this phone and i think its better than the turbo charger, because it doesnt get hot and its still decently fast
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Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
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The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
NLBeev said:
The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
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Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
NLBeev said:
There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
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Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
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I don't believe they can but I'm not.going.to try anyway.
You should use a 5 Volt 2 Amp charger, those chargers are the one's that most phones use. Most new phones are using Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, which you should use but if you are not comftorable then the 5 Volt 2 Amp will work good.
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
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Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
seshmaru said:
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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Including some sources:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
danarama said:
Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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I think you're not understanding the basic chemistry. More heat = more degradation of the Li-ion battery, regardless of tolerances. A lower power charge will always degrade the battery slower. This isn't about tolerances.