I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
kalda01 said:
I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
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In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
Kirkymole said:
In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
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The dock is 1800mah, but the wall charger that came with the phone is only 1500mah,
does it mean I shouldn't use the same wall charger when charging via the dock ? Do I need a charger rated at least 1800mah ?
I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
gripfly said:
I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
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Last night tries to charge with same cable but a 2amp charger, and the dock did not heat up at all.
I really wonder if the original charger is faulty
Yeah it was like always, normal.
Thats possible, you can try it with another original charger and then you know whats going on, maybe..
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Can it cause any damage if using a 2.1amp wall charger instead of the original 1.5amp ?
I think the phone charges how much it needs/set. So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster. But i'm not sure also my explanation is bad I know
" So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster."
So it will not damage something. That I wanna say with this sentence
But for a 100% correctly answer an other person have to give an answer like a dev
The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
Kirkymole said:
The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
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I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
kalda01 said:
I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
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Ignore it, the phone will automatically shut itself down to protect itself long before the temperature is high enough to actually cause it any permanent damage. It's actually nice in my profession, warms the hands on freezing cold days.
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Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
lambda30 said:
Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
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It depends on what the voltage rating for the phone is, if it is 5v, i believe it should be ok, you may find it actually charges slightly faster, if the voltage is higher thats when you can cause damage though.
I am not 100% sure on this maybe someone else can confirm
Phone: 3.7 V, 1000 mA
Battery: 3.7 V, 1500 mAh
Original Nexus S Charger: 5 V, 700 mA
Nokia AC-10 charger: 5 V, 1200 mA
Charge time = battery mAh / charger mA = 1500 / 1200 = 1.25 h = 75 mins
So the NS battery should charge in 75 mins with the Nokia AC-10 charger.
So all the chargers are 5 V rated, ranging from 500 mA (USB cable) to 1200 mA this Nokia charger. For example, with the HTC Desire, I had an 1000 mA charger that worked flawlessly.
LE: Never mind, I found the response. Sorry for making another thread on this matter, but I didn't find the other topic when I first searched the threads. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897935
If a mod sees this thread, please, do delete it, because it's useless now. Thanks a lot anyway !
Just on a side note: Your phone will not necessarily charge faster just because your wall charger can supply more current.
It depends on the charging circuit inside your phone, too. If your Nokia charger and the Nexus S conform to the USB charging specification, the phone will know how much current the charger can supply by the resistance between data+ and data- on the USB-plug. But how much current it draws is up to the phone.
Also, charging LiIon batteries is not as straight forward as (battery mAh)/(charger mA).
It will (most likely) be charged constant current at first and later switched to constant voltage top off charge. I read somewhere that the faster you charge at the beginning, the longer the top off will take.
So you will only gain time, if the supplied wall charger was too weak anyway and why should Samsung do that?
In any case, if you want to try anything you should be sure to be inside USB specs. I think it is 5V +- 5%, so from 4,75V to 5,25V. Less should not be a problem, but (much) more can and will fry your phone.
Good to know, thanks a lot ! Maybe I'll come back here with a comparison between stock charger and the Nokia one (in a couple of days).
most definitely not
i'm using a 2Amp car charger, and it charges really fast, even when the phone is ON, full brightness, gps + streaming BT to car audio
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Question: What happens if I connect a Nokia AC-10 Micro-USB charger, that has an output of 5V, 1200 mA, into the phone ? I'm asking this because inside the phone, on the back of it, where the battery compartment is, it says maximum of 1000 mA.
So what would happen if I would connect the charger ? Would it end up in smoke ?
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i would think that it would charge faster with your nokia charger but your phone will get hotter than normal. i experience this when i use my 1A charger. 1.2A will make it even warmer. i hope you dont overheat your phone.
ps. fast chargers (15 min chargers) for Ni-Mh batteries have 7.5A. those kind of chargers come with fans on them to cool the batteries while charging because it gets really hot.
Ok guys, thanks a lot, I'll keep in mind all you said. Unfortunately, I've come across a dead Nokia AC-10 charger (don't ask, lol), so I will need to get another one tomorrow. After that I'll compare the 2.
The charging circuit (in the fone) tries to stop the battery blowing up and overheating by pulsing the charge until the battery reaches 70%+ when it drops off and the charge creeps up to 97% (all values approx) when the carge circuit switches off and we are left with a fone at 97%+ (other threads on this topic itself !)
I experimented with standard Nexus AC (700mA) and USB Wall Charger (1000 mAH) and Laptop USB Cable (500 mA) and 1 am disappointed at not being able to get a FAST charge in the thing. Here is a plot of the AC Charge (700 mA charger). It never gets used a full power !
http://www.lacbayvilla.com/images/chargingfromAC.png
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
The nokia charger might not be isolated enough from mains. Too much ripple or whatever. It is unlikely IMHO, that it supplies too much current, since it is no current source, but a voltage source.
in case any one wants to know
2 Amps (2000 mAh) Blackberry charger
this is exactly the one i purchased from them http://www.dealextreme.com/p/design...lackberry-9800-9700-8900-8520-dc-10-30v-57622
been using it for over a year now, since i had my old BB and SGS i9000 and kept using the same one for SNS
i use it on a daily basis, as the first thing i do when i get on the car is to plug the charger and put the phone on winshield
Interesting enough, another one from the store has the same effect. Also, on my girlfriend's HTC Wildfire it has the same effect. Guess Nokia sucks as this as well. GG Nokia, keep it like this and you'll eventually fall like the rest of them...
I have noticed too that when the fone is on charge, the screen sensitivity is maxed out and phantom touches can occur all over the place. So much so that I unplug the charger to send sms as I can't type well enough for the spill chucker to guess what language I am using let alone what the word might be !
Anyone found the cause of this annoyance ?
lambda30 said:
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
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The voltage is not current.
It used to happen on my desire when i bought a 99 cents micro USB charger.
By the way i ordered a AC 10 E yesterday so i am a bit worried now.
What the hell did you bump this old ass thread for? So that you can post in the dev thread?
lambda30 said:
Ok... something is really screwed up... when I connect the phone via the Nokia charger, the touchscreen goes haywire... If I touch it in one spot, it sees the touch in another spot... It even starts apps without me even touching them... weird. Is it too powerful for the phone, or what ?
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I encountered the same situation like you, and I know many people do. I was told by my cell phone supplier that it's all due to the unstable current, which causes magnetic field to influence the scree. Or something like that. My phone even typed words or made calls by itself when charging, I can hardly control it until I stop using the charger. When I connect it to PC with USB cable to get charged or use another charger, everything goes well. So I suggest you stop using the charger on your phone. It might cause damage to it.
Charged mine with a nexus 7 charger, which had at least 2 Amps... Worked fine for me...
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I use 2000 to and i dont have problems.
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
Just for be able to post new thread. Sorry.
Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
Huexxx said:
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....
I bought a twin USB car charger (2A) from Halfords and a 2M Belkin micro USB from Halfords.
I was using phone as sat nav for a while when one day I noticed a plasticky burning smell. I noticed the charger and my phone were very hot. I pulled the cable out of the phone and as I did, the metal of the cable twisted through the rubber of the cable. I found I couldn't charge the phone with any charger and the port had blackened.
I sent charger back to Halfords and they are carrying out investigations. I sent the phone to Carphone Warehouse for repair under Manufacturer Warranty and am awaiting for them to diagnose the problem.
Has any one had a similar experience?
I am worried both Halfords and Carphone Warehouse will blame each other leaving me with a dud phone. Any advice?
Here are the links to the products I bought:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_839071_langId_-1_categoryId_165489
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/...productId_1007339_langId_-1_categoryId_165635
The assistant in store had a guess that possibly the wire was not rated for 2A? But I think he was reaching.
I do a lot of travelling in my line of work and only once have I seen something similar happen to me and oddly it was in my personal car not the work van I drive regularly!
But yes, it was the cable that went. Not sure why. I doubt it was a rating thing to be honest. Its more likely the insulation has failed in the cable somewhere causing a short and to heat up. That will travel the length of the cable so its no wonder it burnt out the socket on the phone especially with the HTC being constructed of metals.
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I bought a twin USB car charger (2A) from Halfords and a 2M Belkin micro USB from Halfords.
I was using phone as sat nav for a while when one day I noticed a plasticky burning smell. I noticed the charger and my phone were very hot. I pulled the cable out of the phone and as I did, the metal of the cable twisted through the rubber of the cable. I found I couldn't charge the phone with any charger and the port had blackened.
I sent charger back to Halfords and they are carrying out investigations. I sent the phone to Carphone Warehouse for repair under Manufacturer Warranty and am awaiting for them to diagnose the problem.
Has any one had a similar experience?
I am worried both Halfords and Carphone Warehouse will blame each other leaving me with a dud phone. Any advice?
Here are the links to the products I bought:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_839071_langId_-1_categoryId_165489
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/...productId_1007339_langId_-1_categoryId_165635
The assistant in store had a guess that possibly the wire was not rated for 2A? But I think he was reaching.
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The stock charger is rated at 1.5 amps. Isn't 2 amps too high?
EDIT: I looked it up and it is a twin charger. The question is: do they put the full amps out a single port, or divide it in half, for twin 1 amp charges. I've seen chargers that do one or the other - depends on the design.
stevedebi said:
The stock charger is rated at 1.5 amps. Isn't 2 amps too high?
EDIT: I looked it up and it is a twin charger. The question is: do they put the full amps out a single port, or divide it in half, for twin 1 amp charges. I've seen chargers that do one or the other - depends on the design.
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It does not matter. It could be rated for 5 amps, a device should only pull as many amps as it needs. As long as the voltage is right and you meet the minimum amperage you're fine.
EDIT: Short version, improper voltage will kill electronics fast.
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I needed a car charger and I noticed a lot of them said 2A on them. I was told directly from HTC not to buy a charger rated over 1.5A or I could damage the phone.
gsdaheley said:
I bought a twin USB car charger (2A) from Halfords and a 2M Belkin micro USB from Halfords.
Has any one had a similar experience?
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How long have you had the cable? I've seen it several times with cables that have shorts in one of the ends, generally showing signs of ware such as exposed wires, ripples in the outer shield etc... if they were both new then it's probably still the cable at fault, generally when chargers fail they just stop working.
yuppicide said:
I needed a car charger and I noticed a lot of them said 2A on them. I was told directly from HTC not to buy a charger rated over 1.5A or I could damage the phone.
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This is rubbish and smacks of HTC just covering their arses. I sometimes use a 2amp charger with my M8 in the house and never had a problem. As previous poster said, the phone will draw what it needs.
Aside from that, the M8 supports quick charge 2. Whilst that requires a special charger to work, said charger kicks out nearly 2amps and a higher voltage (9-12v). So I don't think anyone has to worry.
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yuppicide said:
I needed a car charger and I noticed a lot of them said 2A on them. I was told directly from HTC not to buy a charger rated over 1.5A or I could damage the phone.
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This is the problem with HTC support, they don't seem to really know what they are talking about!
I don't understand how the phone will pull more current just because the charger is capable of supplying it. Its like saying, don't plug your phone charger into a wall socket capable of supplying 13A, because it only needs 3A!
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This is the problem with HTC support, they don't seem to really know what they are talking about!
I don't understand how the phone will pull more current just because the charger is capable of supplying it. Its like saying, don't plug your phone charger into a wall socket capable of supplying 13A, because it only needs 3A!
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Oh man! I better not use my kitchen outlets! Those guys are 20A rated outlets on a 20A breaker!
Update
So I returned my phone for repair, and after two weeks, they just sent me a replacement. I asked for details on the overheating problem and they fobbed me off saying now the 'repair' was complete they can't contact the repair centre.
I also returned the charger and wire to Halfords, and they exchanged on the spot.
I used the new phone and car charger again, and it seems to be heating up quite a bit again. I'm noticing the charger itself is warming up quite a bit and the phone is getting very hot.
I rang HTC customer services and they said they only offer support on genuine HTC products and told me to go to their shop.
Anyone else have any words of advice on what charger/wire is working well for them?
Yeah I thought about that but I'm getting the same issue in two different vehicles.
In struggling to understand why you exchanged the charger (which 99.9% probability is the problem) for another, so that it could potentially happen again!? If that was me, I'd have got a refund and bought a different charger.
For what its worth I'm using a Proporta 2a twin in car charger with no problems. I'm using this with a short cable 5-6" long as I hate having long cables trailing in the car.
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Does this behavior only happen when you're using navigation and charging at the same time, or does it happen when you just charge? I've noticed with every HTC I've owned that when using GPS and charging, the phone will get pretty warm and the orange LED will start flashing indicating it's overheating.
jaggrey said:
Does this behavior only happen when you're using navigation and charging at the same time, or does it happen when you just charge? I've noticed with every HTC I've owned that when using GPS and charging, the phone will get pretty warm and the orange LED will start flashing indicating it's overheating.
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This is exactly what happens on mine, using it as navigation, so obviously screen on, on hot dashboard, while voice and music are piped through bluetooth, it overheats my M8 and the LED starts blinking and stops charging, even with power saver on. But, if I shut the screen off for maybe 10 minutes it cools down enough to start charging again.
Yeah I'm noticing it heats up generally, but especially when using a car charger vs using mains charger.
When I had the issue, there was no warning or light. It just stopped charging and burnt the port and wire.
The reason I went for an exchange was because it's a reputable retailer. Not some eBay product.
Just a thought. But, and this CAN actually happen....
You're really NOT supposed to use a phone while it's charging. That can cause overheating in both the device AND the charger.
Interesting point, lyrical1278. I bought a charger for my car when I use Google Maps navigation. I'm a bit worried it will fry my phone though if I'm charging and navigating at the same time.
leongwengheng said:
Interesting point, lyrical1278. I bought a charger for my car when I use Google Maps navigation. I'm a bit worried it will fry my phone though if I'm charging and navigating at the same time.
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Yeah, I remember plenty of times I was using nav with the charger and the phone would be blistering hot (from previous phones I have used). So I stopped doing that.
I would simply leave it off charger unless I absolutely needed to charge the phone (around 20%). The downside to that is that there is no way around it. If you get a lower rated charger, you risk the device using more power than the charger can give it and doing more harm than good.
This is where the external batteries come in. I use those now since there isn't any more stress on the phone than what it would normally dram from it's own battery. AND the phone doesn't get hot.
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Yeah, I remember plenty of times I was using nav with the charger and the phone would be blistering hot (from previous phones I have used). So I stopped doing that.
I would simply leave it off charger unless I absolutely needed to charge the phone (around 20%). The downside to that is that there is no way around it. If you get a lower rated charger, you risk the device using more power than the charger can give it and doing more harm than good.
This is where the external batteries come in. I use those now since there isn't any more stress on the phone than what it would normally dram from it's own battery. AND the phone doesn't get hot.
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Yeah, feels like the charger I bought was a waste of money now lol. Probably better to just keep an external battery in the car.
I have a USB port in my car, which I used to use, but the battery would go down faster than it would charge at when using GPS/3G/Wifi/etc. I didn't realise that was bad for the phone until reading your post!
A quick fix for over heating in hot climiates would be a vent phone holder, and turn AC on. Its kind of a bobo approach, but it would work. Also I think having a case on is interfering with thermal transfer,..its insulating the phone and keeping some heat from being radiated away by the metal casing.
Hey guys I just bought the Nexus 6 and been looking around here and didnt find anything on best ways of charging the phone. I know the phone comes with the quick charger, but I tried it and the phone got real hot and I am pretty sure its not good for the battery in the long run.
That being said I do not want my battery to start losing charges since it does not have a replaceable battery. I am just curious if anyone on here uses other methods of charging the phone or better yet if anything is proven to be safer to charge. Right now I am charging the phone with my previous Samsung s4 charger and seems to charge fine, but if its not good to do this I would like to know sooner than later.
The n6 is meant to charge fast and isn't the first phone to use fast charge technology so I think we are fine using the stock charger.There's no way a battery charging that fast isn't going to get hot.
Define "real hot."
It is normal for the phone to get quite warm when charging. It should never be hot to the touch though. In this context, by hot, I mean you're unable to hold the phone. If you're able to touch the back, and keep your fingers there for more than a few seconds, then the phone is warm, not hot. Anyone who has had a battery overheat can tell you that the difference is unmistakable.
Chargers will, by definition, heat the battery to some extent -- how much, depends on what kind of charger. The order (from warmest to coolest) is: QuickCharge 2.0 (Turbo Charger), qi wireless charging, QuickCharge 1.0 ("Traditional" 2A charger), Regular 1A charger, USB charger (500ma). However, the heat produced by ANY of these chargers is normal, and the battery was designed to handle it. The life may be lessened by the heat to a very small extent, but it should still last way longer than the 1 to 2 years you'll likely own your phone. Plus, technically, the battery IS replaceable. It's just not designed to be user-replaceable, but there are businesses that will replace them. Or... you can purchase an after-market warranty, most of which cover batteries.
jt3 said:
Define "real hot."
It is normal for the phone to get quite warm when charging. It should never be hot to the touch though. In this context, by hot, I mean you're unable to hold the phone. If you're able to touch the back, and keep your fingers there for more than a few seconds, then the phone is warm, not hot. Anyone who has had a battery overheat can tell you that the difference is unmistakable.
Chargers will, by definition, heat the battery to some extent -- how much, depends on what kind of charger. The order (from warmest to coolest) is: QuickCharge 2.0 (Turbo Charger), qi wireless charging, QuickCharge 1.0 ("Traditional" 2A charger), Regular 1A charger, USB charger (500ma). However, the heat produced by ANY of these chargers is normal, and the battery was designed to handle it. The life may be lessened by the heat to a very small extent, but it should still last way longer than the 1 to 2 years you'll likely own your phone. Plus, technically, the battery IS replaceable. It's just not designed to be user-replaceable, but there are businesses that will replace them. Or... you can purchase an after-market warranty, most of which cover batteries.
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I meant just warmer than normal use of the phone. I understand the phone gets hotter the faster you are charging, however I charge my phone every night so what is the point of the quick charging except when I am at work and my phones about to die?
I just feel that the phone will last longer by not quick charging it, but I could be wrong. What I really want to know is if anyone knows if its better for the phone if you just charge with the 1.0 and if so which charger should I use? Maybe another motorola one or would the samsung one work fine?
cleex024 said:
What I really want to know is if anyone knows if its better for the phone if you just charge with the 1.0 and if so which charger should I use? Maybe another motorola one or would the samsung one work fine?
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Technically, yes, it'd be better for your battery, but realistically, you'll never notice, since you'll probably get a new phone long before battery life becomes an issue.
However, to answer your question, any 1A charger designed for Android devices will work (If they're not designed for Android, they'll show "Charging (USB)" in the battery monitor, and will only charge at 500mA). The brand isn't really important, as long as it's a reputable brand. (...and before you ask, yes a 2A charger will work fine too, but will heat your battery more than a 1A charger.)
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Technically, yes, it'd be better for your battery, but realistically, you'll never notice, since you'll probably get a new phone long before battery life becomes an issue.
However, to answer your question, any 1A charger designed for Android devices will work (If they're not designed for Android, they'll show "Charging (USB)" in the battery monitor, and will only charge at 500mA). The brand isn't really important, as long as it's a reputable brand. (...and before you ask, yes a 2A charger will work fine too, but will heat your battery more than a 1A charger.)
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Ok thanks...I guess ill continue to use my samsung 1a charger since it works. And I know that I wont have this phone for the whole 2 years, but if I charge the phone every night anyway why take the risk of damaging the battery at all with a stronger charger when I dont need it right?
Anyway thanks for the advice and ill keep using my samsung charger.
Thanks
cleex024 said:
Ok thanks...I guess ill continue to use my samsung 1a charger since it works. And I know that I wont have this phone for the whole 2 years, but if I charge the phone every night anyway why take the risk of damaging the battery at all with a stronger charger when I dont need it right?
Anyway thanks for the advice and ill keep using my samsung charger.
Thanks
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I put my phone on a wireless charger all night and it gets a little warm but nothing to lose sleep over.
dalegg said:
I put my phone on a wireless charger all night and it gets a little warm but nothing to lose sleep over.
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Which wireless charger are you using?
The quick charge technology is designed to quickly charge your phone without reducing charging cycle performance
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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