[Q] Does the OC really make any effectiveness on Galaxy mini? - Samsung Galaxy Mini

I've just flashed emanoN v3, it has No-Frills CPU control app by default, I used this app to set my CPU like this: Max 710Mhz, Min 245Mhz, Governor performance, I/O scheduler deadline --> Apply on Boot.
But is it me or it doesn't make any work on my Galaxy mini? I still get lag on many games like when not overclocked!
should i use chain fire 3D?
[Sorry 4 my bad English ]

Try other governors and reset your phone after making changes.

Khanate said:
Try other governors and reset your phone after making changes.
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I did, but
should I use chainfire3d instead of NO-Frills ?

Chainfire 3D is graphics tool for better optimization of games and other 3D apps.
Did you check Apply on boot option?

as in my question: I checked Apply on boot option
If OC doesnt make any work on galaxymini, why did they add it in custom ROM 4 galaxymini?

Try other rom like CM 7.2 overclocking worked for me.

why doesn't the OC make any work on Noname ??!!

A tried over-clocking a couple of times but I really didn't feel the difference, except the battery drain, of course. Now-a-days, I don't even care to over-clock.

I am having my mini with cm7.1.0 music edition and overclocked it to 782 MHz and I find that in set CPU native benchmark I found that it took 900 micro second less when I clocked it to 782 MHz so I can say that Oct really works it also make my device run more smoothly its true that some games like angry birds lags yet after oc

boaxfux said:
A tried over-clocking a couple of times but I really didn't feel the difference, except the battery drain, of course. Now-a-days, I don't even care to over-clock.
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maybe ur device has power enough to play many games that requires high-end hw, maybe not
but I wanna push my galaxy mini to play the effing awesome games just like the other high-end devices

dhlalit11 said:
I am having my mini with cm7.1.0 music edition and overclocked it to 782 MHz and I find that in set CPU native benchmark I found that it took 900 micro second less when I clocked it to 782 MHz so I can say that Oct really works it also make my device run more smoothly its true that some games like angry birds lags yet after oc
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OC can improve device's performance, but that improvement was identified by ur own experiences or measurement software?
that's right, I've got lag in angry birds even after OC

my phone is OCed at 782mhz and it's lag free everything works flawlessly...

M1hai said:
my phone is OCed at 782mhz and it's lag free everything works flawlessly...
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ur phone is Galaxy mini ?!

I also OC my CM7.0.2 RC2 with 782 OC kernel. Got 1837 score on Antutu Benchmark. Love it.

fueart said:
I also OC my CM7.0.2 RC2 with 782 OC kernel. Got 1837 score on Antutu Benchmark. Love it.
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its really helps ur device improve its performance? did u check with some HD games?

kynam91 said:
its really helps ur device improve its performance? did u check with some HD games?
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Many games are tailored towards devices with 1Ghz processors and newer (including dualcore and advanced GPU's like the Tegra2 and Exynos chipsets). Don't expect the latest games to run reliably on a sub-800Mhz singlecore device.
Apps that require Chainfire3D are unlikely to work very well at all on the SGM as they're generally aimed at the higher-performance devices.
If you want to see the difference an overclock makes, then run an AnTuTu CPU benchmark before & after overclocking. If the figure doesn't change much (You should expect an increase roughly relative to the % of the overclock) then something isn't working correctly.

I can play Need For Speed Shift without any lag

fueart said:
I can play Need For Speed Shift without any lag
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lucky u! I wish I could

knightnz said:
Many games are tailored towards devices with 1Ghz processors and newer (including dualcore and advanced GPU's like the Tegra2 and Exynos chipsets). Don't expect the latest games to run reliably on a sub-800Mhz singlecore device.
Apps that require Chainfire3D are unlikely to work very well at all on the SGM as they're generally aimed at the higher-performance devices.
If you want to see the difference an overclock makes, then run an AnTuTu CPU benchmark before & after overclocking. If the figure doesn't change much (You should expect an increase roughly relative to the % of the overclock) then something isn't working correctly.
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yup! I just expect the Oc makes change that I can feel thru my own experiences! I dont want to see a good result on Antutu then THINK my device has better performance!!! U know what I mean?
btw, just looked ur signature, u r a serious guy, arent u? haha! It's a cooler way (that's what they thought) to write, why so serious

We are lucky because s5570 is equipted with gpu. Why dont you try using cm7.2 oc with 782 kernel. Plus a2sd and v6 supercharger.
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How to overclock my phones GPU? S5570

I wanna overclock my gpu but i couldn't find a kernal for it.if there is one please post a link.
I don't think that there is one, you can try some kernels with AHB overclocking, it should improve GPU performance. But I don't know it it's noticeable.
sorry
TheWhisp said:
I don't think it's there is one, you can try some kernels with AHB overclocking, it should improve GPU performance. But I don't know it it's noticeable.
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sorry but can u explain more plzzz
It's like overclocking a 10 year old graphics card for PC for it to be able to run Crysis.. do not even think about it. It's that simple.
domcale said:
It's like overclocking a 10 year old graphics card for PC for it to be able to run Crysis.. do not even think about it. It's that simple.
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my phone is lagging in some games even after oc to 844 and installing CF3D driver.i not asking how to play asphalt 7 on mini
ayadgalaxymini said:
my phone is lagging in some games even after oc to 844 and installing CF3D driver.i not asking how to play asphalt 7 on mini
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the lag will be there as it is a low end phone
thanks man
thanks man
TheWhisp said:
I don't think that there is one, you can try some kernels with AHB overclocking, it should improve GPU performance. But I don't know it it's noticeable.
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search here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398797&page=15
drq1907 said:
search here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398797&page=15
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thanks but it's for internal memory and not for GPU
......
in my opinion i don't believe that it is possible to overclock your gpu...i dont even think that Adreno 200 (which we have in our phones) it's overclock-able.
No, kid... no GPU Overclock for you.. if you want better gaming experience, buy up a better Phone !
disable CPU rendering
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[Q] Force all CPUs Online

Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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Well Glowball doesnt lag because they optimized it for a tegra3 devices. so the problem is the game developer, not the phone as far as i know.
i dont know if what you want can be done.
profyler said:
Well Glowball doesnt lag because they optimized it for a tegra3 devices. so the problem is the game developer, not the phone as far as i know.
i dont know if what you want can be done.
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Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
gabrielgon said:
Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
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I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
ljubisa_sk said:
I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
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its not a overheating problem. i play MW and theres is alwasy only 1 core at 1500MHZ at 95%. If the game could use the other cores, it wouldnt.
remember htc has exactly the same problem... its the developer fault coz there is apps and game optimized t use all cores when needed
This sucks right? If this could be done I`m quite sure that the lag problem would be solved or minimized greatly!
If anyone knows something about it please let us know!
Much appreciated.
First if you forced all the cores online ,, then you can use your phone for about 2 hours with overheat . So you will lose your battery .
and about the games it is a problem with our ''kernel'' ,, the kernel is controlling the cpu and the hardware . LG optimized the kernel for long battery use and if you noticed the cpu takes a long time to change the frequency . LG made the phone for daily use .
To test CPU use benchmark ,, not games , games are very complex application and maybe isn't compatible with tegra 3 .
Our phones have nearly the same Galaxy S3 benchmark scores .
And if you noticed our CPU is excellent with miltitasking
you can say our CPU has a hidden power .
Any custom kernel can solve this problems but we have a locked bootloader . So we should wait until JB which has unlocked bootloaders (as LG said)
Trust me, making an app that can even run on more than one thread is hard; very hard
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gabrielgon said:
Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
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never lags on when ive tried, the only game ive ever experienced lag on was when i first tried need for speed but now it doesnt seem to lag,
ljubisa_sk said:
I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
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i have that exact same problem and it IS caused by overheating..when temperature goes over 36c the max speed automatically resets to 1000mhz if the min speed was above..but when temperature is below most games work flawlessly
matatouille96 said:
i have that exact same problem and it IS caused by overheating..when temperature goes over 36c the max speed automatically resets to 1000mhz if the min speed was above..but when temperature is below most games work flawlessly
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When playing dead trigger, mone will usually run 4cores 100% at 1500 until it reaches 42°
But I know that if, you play music it will keep at 1000 no matter what the temp is
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gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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I only faced game lag issue when my device is over heated or when playing multiplayer games (like SG DeadZone) with bad internet connection..never faced such issue due to CPU?
To overcome heat issue I have underclock max speed to 1.2ghz with CPU Tweak app..and it has helped a lot with over heating as well as battery life, and never faced any issue with lag even with 1.2ghz speed..
I have read in many place that even HTC One X behave similarly until JB updates arrived so you dont worry much even if some configuration or app in your device is creating game lags, it will be much better with new JB updates :fingers-crossed:
Quick note:
The Tegra 3 can run only in Single Core mode on 1.5GHz, in other words when your CPU reads 1.5GHz, only one CPU core is being utilised. If you actually want to use all 4 cores, you should set the max frequency to 1.4GHz to avoid the CPU clocking up to 1.5GHz. Lag is caused by switching between all 4 cores on 1.4GHz and single core on 1.5GHz.
I cannot set the max cpu speed. Tried different apps, iam on stock rom v10h, with root, new on p880
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maus01 said:
I cannot set the max cpu speed. Tried different apps, iam on stock rom v10h, with root, new on p880
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Try this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
However, some users have reported bugs with this app so be careful.
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exFAT said:
Quick note:
The Tegra 3 can run only in Single Core mode on 1.5GHz, in other words when your CPU reads 1.5GHz, only one CPU core is being utilised. If you actually want to use all 4 cores, you should set the max frequency to 1.4GHz to avoid the CPU clocking up to 1.5GHz. Lag is caused by switching between all 4 cores on 1.4GHz and single core on 1.5GHz.
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actually hardware wise tegra 3 is capable of running all 4 cores at 1.5ghz however almost all of current android app are not optimised for multicore cpu..however i have noticed when monitered using apps that it somerimes uses all 4 cores at 1.5ghz.
However its better this way if its not running all 4cores at full speed...infact i have underclocked mine to 1.2ghz this helps alot to over come heating issue as well as battery life and no issues with HD games :thumbup:
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shazmekool said:
actually hardware wise tegra 3 is capable of running all 4 cores at 1.5ghz however almost all of current android app are not optimised for multicore cpu..however i have noticed when monitered using apps that it somerimes uses all 4 cores at 1.5ghz.
However its better this way if its not running all 4cores at full speed...infact i have underclocked mine to 1.2ghz this helps alot to over come heating issue as well as battery life and no issues with HD games :thumbup:
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I'm referring to the Tegra 3 T30 present in our devices. The T33 in the HOX+ can run at 1.6GHz in quad core and 1.7GHz in single core. However, the T30 can only run at 1.5GHz single core and 1.4GHz quad core.
To cite Wikipedia,
Tegra 3 T30: 1.4 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 (up to 1.5 GHz in single-core mode)
IIRC over at the HOX forums there was a thread on CPU management to prevent lag spikes in games when Tegra 3 switches from quad core 1.4GHz to 1.5GHz single core or something along the lines of that.
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This app is getting famous now, but in case you didn`t see, it`s called tegra overclock (not tegrak!) and it manages to force every core online pretty well. It has some good other features too.
It`s paid but it`s worth it.
not to mention it DOES improve your gaming experience.
quadcore tegra
gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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try using tegra overclock. available in playstore. it works like a charm for me.
try using tegra overclock. it wkorks like a charm for me

[Q] cpu performance

I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !
I sometimes got lagg on subway surf
And it only happens on stock rom tho
Its gone for me now on cm10.1
Try benchmarking apps if u really want check
Quadrant standart
Antutu
Are 2 good ones
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jasin91 said:
I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !
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Everything is probably ok. Our phone isn`t very good for games (stock) and JB became for slow for some.
Look for Gaming threads but, I can tell you this:
Root
Install Tegra Overclock (not tegrak) and set GPU Clock to 380 (more stable for me) or 416 for 3D and 2D. In Core Count, tick Force selected number of CPUs Online ONLY WHEN YOU WANT TO PLAY.
Maybe play with the thermal throttle.
Look for other kernels that support higher GPU clock. (don`t really recommend).
This is me, don`t know other users opinion:
Install Autokiller Memory Optmizer and set it to Extreme. This will consume more battery (my testing) but eliminates system UI lag.
This should do it.
Oh, of course, your Antutu Benchmark should result around 13k, but dont worry if you get 12k, it varies quite a bit.
I used LG boost app from development thread every time I wanna play
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[Q] Mini Performance

Hey, i think i have a big problem.
Im using a new ROM (this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2622069) and i changed my Max CPU freq to 729Mhz and Min freq. to 122Mhz using ONDEMAND. So i decided to run a benchmark test using Quadrant Standard Edition and i got around 800 points i was kinda shocked because i saw many screenshots from other Mini Users with 2000+ points using an old ROM in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437030.
I dont know what i have done to get so low score, i only have facebook and skype installed and greenify. I think my phone is faster then before but with this Benchmark Score i think my phone is in a pretty bad condition
Any suggestion?
erasem said:
Hey, i think i have a big problem.
Im using a new ROM (this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2622069) and i changed my Max CPU freq to 729Mhz and Min freq. to 122Mhz using ONDEMAND. So i decided to run a benchmark test using Quadrant Standard Edition and i got around 800 points i was kinda shocked because i saw many screenshots from other Mini Users with 2000+ points using an old ROM in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437030.
I dont know what i have done to get so low score, i only have facebook and skype installed and greenify. I think my phone is faster then before but with this Benchmark Score i think my phone is in a pretty bad condition
Any suggestion?
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Well, what you're running is a Jelly Bean, which is NOT officially supported by Galaxy Mini's hardware.
Also, if you think your phone is already fast, then DON'T believe benchmark. I never choose benchmark for testing phone's smoothness, instead I use the ROM around 1 week, then see how does it responds. If it's faster, then I would say the ROM is good.

One plus 3 overclock to max possible power

Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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But why is that needed?
Cobalt Cresent said:
But why is that needed?
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U can overclock with elementalX.
Next time search before post
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U can overclock with elementalX.
Next time search before post
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I already knew that? I'm not the OP. I were simply just asking why a OC is needed. That's all
I mean @gersdvges
Because oc improve games and apps loading
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u can overclock with elementalx.
Next time search before post
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but elementar x only can overclock to 2.2 ghz
i know that snapdragon 820 can be oc over 2.2 ghz
>2016
>SoC's are as powerful as older PC's
>someone stiil needs OVER90000 GHZ OC COZ ANTUTU GOES FASTA
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>2016
>SoC's are as powerful as older PC's
>someone stiil needs OVER90000 GHZ OC COZ ANTUTU GOES FASTA
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This +1000
This phone/CPU/GPU handles almost all content the Play Store can throw at it with ease. You may have slight FPS drops with the odd game, but you are not going to rewrite history gaining 4fps from a marginal over clock and even then you'd be better over clocking the GPU not the CPU anyway.
I agree with others. This obsession with Antutu scores is utterly pointless. And overclocks are a monumental waste of battery in the form of heat.
This obsession is almost as annoying as the folk that don't use any apps and wake their screen every now and then too increase screen on time, to then boast that they managed 12hours SOT.
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gersdvges said:
Because oc improve games and apps loading
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That is false... The storage solution is what makes things Load quicker and what governor/io scheduler youre using. Over clocking is useless and trust me I know, I've over clocked every phone of mine until I realized all it does is cause instability, less battery life and more heating. The only viable over clocking is the GPU.
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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Are you retarded? The phone's already super fast. But no, MUH MAXIMUM POWER FOR ANTUTU!
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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I agree

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