Hello everyone,
It's nice to have a reason to be back in xda.
So recently I traded my iphone 4s for an LG Thrill + $150. So naturally, I made out of the deal. Anyway, upon receiving the phone, I noticed Superuser in the app drawer. Now I have never rooted an android before, so I would very much appreciate if someone could walk me through on how to do it, or link me to a thread that may explain it. The reason I am making my own thread about this is because Id also like a few questions answered if possible.
First of all, I want to unroot because I'm not sure if the previous owner installed any kind of tracking software on the phone, unlikely, but you never know. Also because I figure I will have to do it to update to ICS when it gets released for the Thrill. So I guess one of my questions are how do I tell what kind of stuff is installed on my phone from a rooted perspective. I noticed that for one unroot you need to have cwm installed, and i don't know how to go about to see if it is. I don't see it in the app drawer, so I'm not sure. Like I said, Ive never owned a rooted android before, only my jailbroken iphones.
Another question I had is that when I signed into my android email (I previously owned a motorola Xoom) it released an arsenal of unwanted emails and contacts into my phones contacts, I'm going to imagine there is a setting in the settings to untoggle this, and I will try to hunt it down, but if anyone could give me a heads up on where it is, thatd be ridiculously awesome.
Then another thing id like help with, is since im late in the game with the Thrill, maybe you could post any interesting threads youd think a newbie would like to see. I will spend my own time looking over xda (so please don't come in here and hate on me and tell me to look for it myself) I just figured you kind people that are in here a couple times a week would already know of some great stuff I could look at. It does get time consuming reading through the Troll posts and whatnot.
Anywho, Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you all in the coming days!
If anyone could help me, I have never been rooted like stated, and I'm just trying to gushed what I should do. I found out he used super one click method to root. And I see superuser in the apparently drawer, but I don't see clockwork recovery at all (and I don't even know what that is/does, but I know its important.) If anyone could just start a dialogue with me to help me get some of this figured out I'd be very appreciative. I just don't want to ultimately brick my phone.
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I would check to see if clockwork mod recovery is installed first. If it is, then just install a different rom and you will know that any tracking stuff the previous user may have installed is gone.
To check for clockwork recovery, power your phone down completely. Hold the volume down button and the 3d button down, then press the power button until the phone vibrates and starts booting. If the phone boots normally, you don't have clockwork recovery. If you do have clockwork recovery, then install a custom rom from the development section and you're on your way. I like thriller and doomed froyo.
Enjoy!
-q
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Yes! I booted into an android recovery system, so I'm taking that I do have certain thanks, now I will have to look into the Roms.
Two side questions though, I will have to unroot before ICS right?
And when I turned off and booted like you said, once I got into the recovery attempt I just rebooted again, my battery was at 70 percent before the initial reboot and somhow now displaying it at 26 percent. Any ideas on that? I'm going to reset again to see if it drags back up. I am confused
EDIT: After turning it off on the battery is still reading in the twenty percent. I know for a fact that it should be up in the sixty seventy range. Does loading into recovery really destroy your battery like that? I had already done a full life cycle on the battery so I can't imagine that the batteries the issue
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So I just removed then replaced the battery and now its reading at 35 percent. Is this normal?
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Hey... haven't been checking this forum for a few days. It sounds like your battery stats are hosed. In cwr there is an option to wipe battery stats. That should do the trick.
You do not need to un-root in order to install a custom rom. The only thing to watch out for is what baseband the rom was developed for. The thrill ships with "froyo", Google's android 2.2 operating system and that's the only OS version that the baseband will function with. It is possible to flash the baseband from another country where "gingerbread" (2.3) has been released. Unfortunately this means that you may lose quite a bit of functionality on your phone. This is because the frequencies used in the country where that baseband was used are different. You are pretty much guaranteed to lose 4g and might get horrible signal on 3g.
Personally I will be waiting for at&t to roll out gingerbread for the thrill before I go down that path. You can still flash froyo based roms like Thriller and Doomed Froyo. Look for them in the "android development" subforum here.
Good luck!
-q
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It may be that the stats are shot, or it may be a glitch that (I think) the Thrill has. I remember reading at one point that simply turning the phone on and off would drain 10-20% of its battery, and mine has seemed to do the few times that I actually watched it... It's really annoying when you just want to restart the phone to apply something and then have to live with a smaller battery life for the rest of the day.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input, and I will check that out in clockwork recovery.
I was worried about unrooting to install ics when it comes out, but I figure that may be a year or so :rolls eyes: but i think I found the forum for unrooting in the development section.
Also thanks for the warning on the baseband, I'm really glad I haven't gotten around to putting a rom on my thrill because I was looking at a gb one. You just saved my phone!
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I realise this wont answer your question but it might help you in a general since. I was in your position few months ago. I did play with roms some. I found what worked for me was ordering a higher capacity battery (link found in the accessory section), and the Doomed Froyo rom. Gave me the control I was used to from jailbreak ios and the extra battery life helps. Do a few searches for essential root apps before you play with roms. You need basics like root file explorer and titanium backing and so on. Enjoy your thrill
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so i have the infamous samsung moment. you wanna know what really sucks about it? i listened to grooveshark for 10 minutes today. 10 minutes! the battery was at 75% when i started. when i was done, it was at 50%! yes, ive flashed to stock, yes ive tried other roms, yes ive done it all. disabled JIT, had the barest rom ever, and i still cant get a good battery life. so im pretty much set on switching to a new phone. but i need to know what the downfalls of the hero are. is battery life horendous? does it get really hot when you leave it in your pocket? how functional are the 2.2 roms? how much can i optimize it? give me all the info possible, especially stuff about signal strength and battery life. and rooting too, how easy is that? it seems a little unnecassarily complicated on the moment... thanks
Skip the hero and get an epic or evo....or wait a few more weeks and see what else there is. Sprint has already forgotten about the hero.
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i have like no money. id love to get one of those, but i barely got the moment to begin with. im only 15 btw
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
the hero is a nice device. the 4g devices arent worth the premium. data will never be worth what they charge even WITHOUT the ten dollar upcharge on the terribly bulky epic or the over sized evo. no sense getting a 'flagship' device because they change constantly. soon we'll have dual core procs on these phones and even then, consumers wont be happy.
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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tailsthecat3 said:
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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Your friend must have jacked up his evo because my wife has one and it blows my OC'ed hero out of the water (CM6.1). You especially notice the speed in the browser and the games that I download on it without permission.
I agree the $10 extra a month is hard to swallow. Just remember that 2 years is a long time to commit to an older phone.
Hero is a nice device. It is small and does not feel like a brick in your pocket. The battery life is not bad. I have not tried any battery tweaks, but with some minor tweaks, I can get anywhere between 18-24 hours on a full charge. The only time I have felt the phone get hot is while wireless tethering.
I got it new earlier this year and as time progressed, I was getting annoyed with some of it's shortcomings, due to the software provided by Sprint. It felt slow, could not utilize the SD card for apps and such. The last straw was when "The Powers" said they won't be giving the Hero any more Android updates...
So, I rooted it and put CM6 (stable). Since then, I have been feeling like a child with a whole new toy. It works amazing, plus no extra 4G surcharge... .
oh something else i thought of. i think the hero has multitouch, please confirm. does it also have flash player? if it doesnt have either, thats ok. the moment has neither
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yeah its got multi touch. it doesnt have full flash, officially anyway.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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What the battery tweak does is clock your CPU based on certain variables. You can set it's max and minimum limits whilest the phone is running on battery/USB power/AC power. Also, you can change it so it reduces the max CPU usage when the battery is below a certain percentage, as to suck the most time out of your battery.
I have my tweak settings maxed out at 729 mhz for any given variable and a min 176 mhz. My phone lasts all day and then some, for sure. I woke up with it at 75% (put it in airplane mode for the night because I was too lazy to find the charger) and currently it's at 55% after 8 1/2 hours of moderate use.
Results may vary, of course.
edit: I carry around an extra charged battery just in case. There's a Taiwanese vendor on eBay selling 2 spare batters + a wall charger (charges your external batteries without needing your phone with the option of USB charging as well) -- all for $12 or something. Definitely worth it and I think there's a post in the accessories forum with the link to it. Not sure if it died by now or not.
Good luck!
thanks for all this info guys! im cant wait to be able to get one of these things for myself!!! the hard part is the ebay bidding. i already lost 2 auctions that i was aiming for, trying for another one tonight, then done for the day. anywhere else that i might look to get an unlocked hero besides craigslist? i wont buy off there, no way.
EDIT: i finally won a hero off ebay!!! i got it for $110. i think thats a pretty good deal! but i was thinking about the rooting process, and i like the idea of a one click root, but i need a little more info. does the one click root install a recovery also? if it doesnt, is it possible that ROM Manager works with the Hero, and i can install clockwork recovery? i really appreciate all your info guys. thanks a bunch
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything im looking for the one click root that was spoke of earlier in the thread. can someone link me to it?
also, is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
EDIT: wait a second... does http://unrevoked.com/original/ really work? can someone confirm this for me?
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
thesubliminaljuggalo said:
The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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its not a palm... its a samsung moment that would quite peculiar if i tried to bring a webos backup to android... but i probably will start over. i have a bunch of crap on my phone anyhow. it would be a good thing.
winter128 said:
Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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oh boy! thats alot of stuff! thanks alot for that! i didnt know xda had a wiki... but then again, sdx has one too, so i should have known.
winter128 said:
Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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yep, i read about the OTA updates to block the rooting. but take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910). this implies that you can root the .6 OTA. is that a typo, or legit? the wiki link above also says that .6 is rootable. i know how to downgrade if necessary, though. as far as the unrevoked rooting, i was right then! unrevoked then rom manager will do the trick? awesome thats way easy. and i know that i change recoveries within rom manager... i think im set guys! thanks alot for all your help. ill be sitting on that wiki link for a while. im gonna read all i can before my hero comes im super duper excited!!! and i will have fun!!! i plan on flashing CM6 anyhow
.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
steve19137 said:
how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
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In the Development section, check for the Easy Root thread. Takes about 3 minutes.
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies
sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?
So earlier this month I hard bricked my captivate playing with bootloaders going from Froyo to GingerBread. Yes...I'm a noob...
The phone got stuck at SBL.bin for over eight hours. Then I pulled the batt and the USB. Then it was game over.
I contacted MobileTechVideo, paid them my money and shipped it off to them.
It got there yesterday. They have had it for 24 hours now....I'm excited to possibly have it back before Xmas...
I paid extra for them to install a rom/upgrade for me.
I'm thinking of going to ICS, but I really use the phone as a Daily Driver and would like something stable.
I'm not asking what rom should I go with. I understand that those threads get locked quickly.
But should I go ICS yet or stay with GingerBread?
Remember, I won't be flashing the rom, MobileTechVideo will be so no worries about messing it up!
My fear is that if I don't get ICS professionally installed now, then I won't be comfortable about flashing it myself later. And I really don't want to miss out...
I'm torn about what todo....
I'm assuming you are getting unbrickable mod, which, what do you think you will screw up if you install a ROM? You are unbrickable.
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Maybe I missed the point, but as a daily driver, I would think you would want something that has a little more track time on a large install base..
I was faced with the same question, and chose to go with one of the leaked ROMs. As much fun as this can be, I need my phone to be working as well...
Good luck with your choice!
Well that's what I was confused about. ICS will act the same weather it's "professionally" installed or I install it. There is no Nexus S source so it's bound to be super buggy regardless.
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ConeyKiller said:
I'm assuming you are getting unbrickable mod, which, what do you think you will screw up if you install a ROM? You are unbrickable.
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Funny you ask....
I originally did ask for the unbrickable mod because 'doesn't that sound good? Who wouldn't want that?'
Then I spent a night reading about it....and changed my mind.
I may be wrong here, but from what I read it's great for a guy who is an expert, runs a linux box and spends his days flashing various rom combinations.
However for a noob, I didn't want to be bothered with holding down the power button for 5 seconds on every boot. And I sure as heck don't have a linux box to get into the unbrickable portion to actually unbrick the thing. It didn't seem to me like a nice easy, 'Here's how to get out of trouble by clicking your heels together three times' item that I need as a noob.
No, it sounds great on paper, but I think in reality if I brick it again for some reason, I'll just pay MTV to fix it. It's a tradeoff between giving MTV some of my money when I mess up and usability on a daily basis. I'll take usability thanks. I am gratefull that there are experts here who have the ability to repair the phone no matter what I do to it.
That doesn't mean that I will stop reading XDA and learn though...By the time my upgrade is due, I may have enough knowledge to use it on my next phone.
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Maybe I missed the point, but as a daily driver, I would think you would want something that has a little more track time on a large install base..
I was faced with the same question, and chose to go with one of the leaked ROMs. As much fun as this can be, I need my phone to be working as well...
Good luck with your choice!
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Thanks!
That's what I was leaning towards too. I just wanted to be sure that I wasn't going to miss out on the new shiney stuff that the 'cool' kids are playing with....
2.3 is more stable
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self-proclaimed noob should not even be considering ICS (which is in alpha/beta at best)....
it shouldnt even be a thought in your head if you want stable and dont know anything
Hi all. Just got this phone (LG Optimus 2X) a few days ago but after reading all the mixed reviews on it and the problems people are having with it I'm not sure if it's a good one to have. The constant crashing of some of the apps is the first thing I noticed. Then the shockingly short battery life (just over 13 hours on a full charge WITHOUT using the phone at all,brightness all the way down,fewer apps)... This is my first "smart phone" ever and I don't know anything about stuff like ROM,flashing,rooting... which means I can't mess with the phone at this point. I was looking at the Samsung Galaxy S II T989 AWS+850 3G, S II 727 skyrocket or S II AWS and I'm wondering if they're better phones. I'm with Windmobile (Canada) and running Android 2.2. I only have a couple of days to make a decision (keep it or exchange it for something different). Any advice?
To be fair to LG, they make decent hardware but their software are like s**t!
Anyway, the very least... Root... Custom Kernel... if you not comfortable with custom rom, then you can skip custom rom first.
At this point, I feel any other phone is better than 2x... Simply because Nvidia and LG are not working well together.
If you still have the chance, I'd recommend you to just send it back and get a better phone. The phone's hardware is decent (not the best), but LG's and Nvidia's support just doesn't cut it.
If you consider the S2 as an option, you'd just better go with it.
Thank you guys for the replies. It's becoming obvious to me the Samsung S2 is a better phone -although not by much- but the thing is, with the LG I didn't have to pay anything while the Samsung is going to cost a couple hundred or so (cant remember exactly) and I don't know if it's worth it for me since I'm not really crazy about having the best smart phones out there. I'm thinking if the LG can at least be reliable I'm ok with it. Like I said, I don't know anything about all these mods you can do to your phone but do they really make a difference?
Also, I tried to update to 2.3 but kept getting "phone has latest version..." message although it's running 2.2 currently.
Install the latest ginger bread. 20Q. its excellent compared with original stock. though you have to root it...
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At this point, I feel any other phone is better than 2x... Simply because Nvidia and LG are not working well together.
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For the first part - I beg to differ. Our phone just got to the point when we can say that it is a good phone, with good software. Using latest official 20q or better yet, customized versions. And there is CM also.
Yes, battery can last enough with everything working just fine, with some updating or flashing various upgrades.
But it took us almost a year to get here. Because nVidia screwed us with not being involved at all, on that we all agree.
We have bought several ones as early adaptors but we have a lot of problems or had in the past... There are a lot of better phones out there it's a relieve to say goodbye after a year of use.
The latest great thing is the phone shutdown after a message saying almost empty battery lol and after a restart the percentage is 65% Most buggy software and a gingerbread update based on the froyo kernel...
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Thanks again for the replies and sharing your opinions.
Supupa, the problem is I have no clue what "rooting", "flashing", "CM".... mean or how it's done. I'm sure with time and some reading and asking I'll be able to learn some of that stuff. The first thing I tried to do was to update the Android version to 2.3 but for whatever reason it didn't want to. I'm mostly concerned about the appalling battery life. A mere 14 hours on a full charge with no use (of the phone) is unacceptable no matter how good a phone is. I am going to take a second look at the Galaxy S II tomorrow and see if I can live with the cheap build.
I don't know, but to me a smart phone with bugs can't be that smart.
I would not buy it again. The hardware is very good, but the software is crap.
Best thing you can do right now is to:
1. download latest firmware: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP990/AITADW/V20q_00/V20Q_00.kdz (found here)
2. follow one of the guides for flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327929
This will update everything so you don't have to bother with baseband and RIL right now. And give it a try. If it runs good enough keep it and/or customize it, if not, well...
edit: but wait! Isn't that really LG G2x or P-999 in Wind mobile? If it is, youre in the wrong forum (G2x is here) and that update will make a mess. It's not the same phone although it looks identical. Go to settings > about phone, scroll down and see what it says there. Or make a screenshot and attach it here.
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For the first part - I beg to differ. Our phone just got to the point when we can say that it is a good phone, with good software. Using latest official 20q or better yet, customized versions. And there is CM also.
Yes, battery can last enough with everything working just fine, with some updating or flashing various upgrades.
But it took us almost a year to get here. Because nVidia screwed us with not being involved at all, on that we all agree.
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I agree with Dac0908,
The phone's hardware is good, the software is ****.
And now the developers @ XDA Have so much good ROMS and now even ICS for us to say that it is a good phone again.
And the battery performance can be increased at a huge rate with a different kernel.
My phone's battery record of staying alive is 86 hours, just saying!
lg O2x v20q with spica1234 kernel sr3+pp10.Excellent
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Best thing you can do right now is to:
1. download latest firmware: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP990/AITADW/V20q_00/V20Q_00.kdz (found here)
2. follow one of the guides for flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327929
This will update everything so you don't have to bother with baseband and RIL right now. And give it a try. If it runs good enough keep it and/or customize it, if not, well...
edit: but wait! Isn't that really LG G2x or P-999 in Wind mobile? If it is, youre in the wrong forum (G2x is here) and that update will make a mess. It's not the same phone although it looks identical. Go to settings > about phone, scroll down and see what it says there. Or make a screenshot and attach it here.
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Thanks, Dac. My phone is the P999 actually. Anyway, I have to return the phone tomorrow because I think it's defective. I've only had it for a few days and only 4 minutes of talk time but the phone keeps disconnecting itself from service and keeps displaying the message "Emergency only". I've talked to the technical support 3 times already and went one time to the store where I bought but only a few hours after we "fix" the problem it comes back and I lose connection. The phone also kept switching between Wind Home and Wind Away on its own even though I was sitting at home. I was watching Youtube and suddenly the screen went completely black and I had to shut the phone off to get the screen to work again. I have no doubt this particular phone is DEFECTIVE. Very bad start. My Sony Ericsson 580 has been working without a glitch whatsoever since I bought it in Feb '08 and the battery still gives me the same exact time it did when it was brand new.
I don't know if I'll be having the same problems if I get another similar LG 2X. I like the phone but the problems I'm having with mine and what I've learned about this phone in the past few days make me wanna steer away from it now. I really want to give the LG O2X a try but I don't know.
Tough luck, can happen to any brand or model
Well it's not a bad phone. Most of software glitches are fixed now, community is strong, and for that price I don't think you can get something better. I'm talking about market prices, not subsidized by carriers of course.
S2 is in higher price class: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_r_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-713.php but it's a free world... well, sort of.
Thanks, Dac. Yeah I know. It's electronics. Didn't get a chance to go to the store today. I'll go tomorrow and decide if I'm going to keep this phone or get a Samsung. If I keep it and figure out how to do all the things that can be done to make it a better phone I hope it would be reliable for at least a couple of years.
LG optimus 2X was the cheepest dual core high-end phone I could find on a second hand market in my country. Of course I flashed CM7 (I'm on a Temasek's latest KANG) and my phone is rock stable and very fast. I'm using ADW EX launcher btw. I can only sugest to the OP to invest some time in exploring how to get ROOT and how to flash custom rom because that will be usefull regardless of which android phone you have. It is actually very hard to truly "brick" your phone, I've had a broken connection wih a PC in the middle of flashing a custom rom with ODIN on my old Samsung Spica because of bad drivers and I still managed to get my phone working easily
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LG optimus 2X was the cheepest dual core high-end phone I could find on a second hand market in my country. Of course I flashed CM7 (I'm on a Temasek's latest KANG) and my phone is rock stable and very fast. I'm using ADW EX launcher btw. I can only sugest to the OP to invest some time in exploring how to get ROOT and how to flash custom rom because that will be usefull regardless of which android phone you have. It is actually very hard to truly "brick" your phone, I've had a broken connection wih a PC in the middle of flashing a custom rom with ODIN on my old Samsung Spica because of bad drivers and I still managed to get my phone working easily
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Man!! It keeps getting more and more complicated. I have no idea what "bricking" is, ADW launcher,... So many things that I don't know anything about.
Looks like the only other decent phone I can get on Windtab is the Samsung Nexus. It's $250 while the LG is free. I'm assuming the Nexus is better than the LG but It looks ugly with that stupid curve and it feels really cheap.So, I don't know. I'm still deciding, but is the Nexus worth the money?
I was sorta in the same boat as you last week, (choosing between the Galaxy S, P990 and the Galaxy S2.).
1. The Galaxy S (with flashed rom and kernel) was already an awesome phone which could do anything you wanted, and during my short usage I found the P990 either equal (smoothness, gps fix speed) or even better (camera, wifi/3g connection strength, HDMI without $50 cable).
2. Flashing (= installing) new and better software is a piece of cake for this phone. Now I know you're new so it might not look as a piece of cake to you, but in physical steps it boils down to:
How to Root your phone. (= Give yourself full access to the phone)
1. Install software "LG United Mobile Driver 3.6" (use google) on pc.
2. Install software "SuperOneClick" (use google) on pc.
3. Connect phone to pc, then click "Root" in "SuperOneClick"
Done
How to Install custom firmware/rom/kernel
Assuming you have an external microSD card inserted.
1. Install CWM Recovery
Go to android market (on phone) and download ROM Manager. In ROM Manager choose "install/flash ClockWorkMod (CWM) Recovery
2. Download any new ROM you wish to install from this forum and put it anywhere on the phone.
3. Enter CWM Recovery mode
(When the phone is off: hold Volume Down and Power buttons. The white LG logo will come up, keep holding. Let go when the LG logo suddenly gets a blue background. Note: If you hold these buttons without succesfully installing CWM (step 1), then you will factory reset your phone and it will reboot again.
The following steps are covered in every thread on ROMs, every rom maker includes instructions on how to flash (=install) their ROMs. Yet in about 9.9 of 10 cases it boils down to:
4. In CWM Recovery, go to "Backup and Restore", and make a Nandroid backup. (You need an external microSD for this).
Move the cursor in CWM Recovery with the volume buttons and enter with the power key.
5. Do a factory reset. (Wipe Data, Wipe Cache)
Yes this will wipe your apps, appdata, messages and contacts so have that backed up if you want, but since you have a new phone, you won't have anything to save. It will not delete anything that wasn't in the Data folder, such as photo's/music.
6. Then go to "Install ZIP from SD card". Browse to the downloaded ROM (step 2), select it. It will install, will take about 1 minute. That's it. Reboot.
You can choose from ROMs based on official LG android, or totally rebuilt from scratch such as CyanogenMod (CM7), or based on CM7. ROMs with a CM7 base will look significantly different from stock roms, and subjectively I'd say these are the better roms to look at as they've been more developed. You can find CM7 roms because they have the [CM7] tag in the thread title in the Optimus 2X Development forum.
Now read more guides on how to do it (because I may have forgotten something), I just wanted to give you a basic overview of what's waiting for you. Enjoy!
As per what you pay, its the best
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Hey guys,
I think it's great that you're trying to help our friend Electroman here... but please keep one thing in mind, the ROMs in this section are for P990. Electroman, if you try to flash your P999 with a ROM for P990 you will risk bricking your phone. (Bricking your phone is basically turning your phone into a brick... or paper weight) So please proceed with caution.
Hi to all,
1. Awhile ago (in a distant galaxy, far away...) I rooted my Hero and moved over to CM7(a couple of times before getting it right...) During the process then, I failed to safeguard the nandroid backup, and no longer have that to fall back on...
2. Recently, I signed on with Hulu, and now want to use the Hero for watching videos and discovered... no way. I have spent a few days looking into this googling and going where it took me, and have spent today spending my time here looking. After searching and coming away with the realization that it isn't going to happen, I spent some time reading the first eight pages on the forum here to get familiar with the why's and why not's... but still have this little bit of hope that I have missed something... and I stumbled across the Zero Hero mod.
So, before I replace CM7 with Zero Hero, I thought I would check with folks who know way more than me....
1. Not having the original nandroid backup on file to use" in case of emergency" should I just leave well enough alone or use a recent nandroid backup of the currently working system (I am really unfamiliar with backing up in general...) to fall back on? I see no reason to ever need a backup of the original system that came with the Hero but... just checking!
2. If I utilize Zero Hero and replace CM7, will I be able to install Adobe Flash 10.1... or 10.2.. and use it to use on the web in general and Hulu specifically?
3. Am I trading of anything of consequence or importance by replacing CM7 with Zero Hero? (I am of the understanding at this point that CM7 is just not going to work with Flash Player. I also see that I will probably have to use another browser like Dolphin rather than the "stock" on the phone now with Zero Hero which is okay as far as I see things now.)
I will thank everyone now and again later (!!) for any answers, thoughts or opinions on any of the 3 questions together or any single question that they can help with! If your answer is to go ahead and buy a new phone... then I will start shopping!
Thanks a ton for your time and help,
mike :fingers-crossed:
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Hi to all,
1. Awhile ago (in a distant galaxy, far away...) I rooted my Hero and moved over to CM7(a couple of times before getting it right...) During the process then, I failed to safeguard the nandroid backup, and no longer have that to fall back on...
2. Recently, I signed on with Hulu, and now want to use the Hero for watching videos and discovered... no way. I have spent a few days looking into this googling and going where it took me, and have spent today spending my time here looking. After searching and coming away with the realization that it isn't going to happen, I spent some time reading the first eight pages on the forum here to get familiar with the why's and why not's... but still have this little bit of hope that I have missed something... and I stumbled across the Zero Hero mod.
So, before I replace CM7 with Zero Hero, I thought I would check with folks who know way more than me....
1. Not having the original nandroid backup on file to use" in case of emergency" should I just leave well enough alone or use a recent nandroid backup of the currently working system (I am really unfamiliar with backing up in general...) to fall back on? I see no reason to ever need a backup of the original system that came with the Hero but... just checking!
2. If I utilize Zero Hero and replace CM7, will I be able to install Adobe Flash 10.1... or 10.2.. and use it to use on the web in general and Hulu specifically?
3. Am I trading of anything of consequence or importance by replacing CM7 with Zero Hero? (I am of the understanding at this point that CM7 is just not going to work with Flash Player. I also see that I will probably have to use another browser like Dolphin rather than the "stock" on the phone now with Zero Hero which is okay as far as I see things now.)
I will thank everyone now and again later (!!) for any answers, thoughts or opinions on any of the 3 questions together or any single question that they can help with! If your answer is to go ahead and buy a new phone... then I will start shopping!
Thanks a ton for your time and help,
mike :fingers-crossed:
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A nandroid is just a snapshot of how everything is at that moment. So you can make a nandroid now and will always be able to go back to it for whatever reason.
Going between cm and sense is just a matter of preference. They both have benefits. Its just a matter of preference. You can install zero and nandroid, then go back to cm or switch between them as you wish.
Flash will never truly work on the hero. The sense roms have flash "lite" but flash won't fully work.
I was addicted to my hero and couldn't think of switching to a new phone. I finally did about a month ago and it really is amazing how much farther new phones are from the hero. I'd sadly recommend upgrading if it's within your means, but there's a few that are always here to help with the hero.
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QUOTE=ajrty33;33993047]A nandroid is just a snapshot of how everything is at that moment. So you can make a nandroid now and will always be able to go back to it for whatever reason.
Going between cm and sense is just a matter of preference. They both have benefits. Its just a matter of preference. You can install zero and nandroid, then go back to cm or switch between them as you wish.
Flash will never truly work on the hero. The sense roms have flash "lite" but flash won't fully work.
I was addicted to my hero and couldn't think of switching to a new phone. I finally did about a month ago and it really is amazing how much farther new phones are from the hero. I'd sadly recommend upgrading if it's within your means, but there's a few that are always here to help with the hero.
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Thanks for your help. After all the effort so far on this, admitting this is deflating... your reply really confirms the slow dawning of this creeping around my head. It is time to retire the Hero I guess after all. :crying: It has been a faithful sidekick all these years.
Off I am to find a new phone, but what to do with all this info. I have acquired??? Guess I'll try to share it when I can...
Can I ask if you would recommend the phone you now have? Unless something else has come out since or is on the horizon??
Really, thanks, I do feel like I gave the Hero all I could :highfive: Closure, it does kind of feel good!
Mike
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Thanks for your help. After all the effort so far on this, admitting this is deflating... your reply really confirms the slow dawning of this creeping around my head. It is time to retire the Hero I guess after all. :crying: It has been a faithful sidekick all these years.
Off I am to find a new phone, but what to do with all this info. I have acquired??? Guess I'll try to share it when I can...
Can I ask if you would recommend the phone you now have? Unless something else has come out since or is on the horizon??
Really, thanks, I do feel like I gave the Hero all I could :highfive: Closure, it does kind of feel good!
Mike
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I switched to Verizon from cspire for several reasons. It's awesome having 4G. I got the s3. I'm loving it. The nexus 4 is coming out soon. I looked around for awhile before i decided. It was difficult going to a 4.8" from a 3.2" but it's nice to have more real estate. Its just up to you. Play with them at the store and you'll eventually find one you like.
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