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Should I buy a Motorolla Atrix ?

My samsung galaxy S is incredibly slow, I can't upgrade it via Kies, and I am scared to flash b/c of the faulty SD cards (my phone resets / freezes just when updating apps for god sakes)
Does anyone know if the Atrix will be able to be flashed and stuff? I heard about a locked bootloader
can anyone confirm ?

To get acquainted with the flashing process just start by reflashing the same rom as you're currently running now.
If you're afraid now while having a crappy sgs what makes you think you won't be while flashing your brand new atrix?
If I had the cash i would change phone every 6 months. I dig the atrix concept but i think it is to soon. Its still to weird.
I do a monthly flash of my sgs and am still happy with it. If you take the plunge and flash yours too i know you'll be happy too.

Have fun with the stock roms.
Motorola devices now have locked bootloaders and do not allow custom ROMs.
The Droid 1 and Droid 2 in Europe were subject to such locks and no homebrew roms have been made.

Also, you think samsung wont come out with a better handset than motorola? Samsung are going to relase their dual core orion and thats what im waiting for. Forget tegra.

This is kinda like cutting a whole leg because you have a log toe-nail and can't fit your shoe...
First, you should check out why Kies prevent you from upgrading. Issue with driver? Usb (Or usb Drivers)? Hardwaire issue with the computer you're using? if you can, try installing kies on a clean system and see if this resolve the issue.
As for custom rom, Odin only need the drivers for Download mode and then you'll be able to install clockworkmod recovery and flash from a zip file. Only need Recovery 2e prior to install it (or another compatible kernel flashed trough odin).
And motorola is known to be locked :|

The SGS is a very good phone, if you are having issues then you likely should look into following some of the advice on this thread.
That being said, i had a live demo of the atrix at my store and.... **** IS IT NICE! i am definately thinking of switching phones, it is a LOT faster, has a HUGE battery, better resolution on the screen (not LED tho) and you can REALLY multitask on it. Plus you can plug it into your TV and use it as a computer, multitasking with multiple videos running, games, you name it. the things a beast!
The one problem i found was it got pretty hot after only about 20 minutes of use. the rep said they were working on it, not sure how you can fix that other than turning down the power. Given the choice between either phone tho, the atrix wins. Its just got more power.

the only ones that really had faulty sd cards were the i9000m' is that your phone if not i would flash doc's js3 or jpy
and speedmod or vodoo kernel

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883820

Seems if you are having problems then you should take the phone back, simple as that. My phone is superfast at everything and has no issues to speak of. Custom roms make it so much faster along with lagfixes and kernels.
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Simple answer is no.
There are rumours that the Motorola Atrix suffers from a power management issue that is hardware related.
Long answer, as others have said, get to know the SGS and don't be scared of rooting it and using a custom ROM.
It is a very good phone, it's just a shame that developers have had to fix the problems Samsung couldn't be bothered with.
Motorola use what is known as an 'e-fuse' and that has to be disabled before the phone can use custom kernels & ROMs.
If you really want an Atrix, wait for it to hit the market and see what users report.
I get the feeling that Manufacturers are rushing phones to the market because the competition with Android phones is rapildy growing.
This will mean that more phones with issues will surface and I for one will not rush out to replace my SGS.

sargasso said:
To get acquainted with the flashing process just start by reflashing the same rom as you're currently running now.
If you're afraid now while having a crappy sgs what makes you think you won't be while flashing your brand new atrix?
If I had the cash i would change phone every 6 months. I dig the atrix concept but i think it is to soon. Its still to weird.
I do a monthly flash of my sgs and am still happy with it. If you take the plunge and flash yours too i know you'll be happy too.
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Well because of the faulty SD card issue on SGS -- mine is one of them. If I flash and stuff the re-writing to the SD card is what causes it, so I almost KNOW my phone will brick because it's faulty to begin with. I don't think the Motorolla phone will be like this (in fact most phones aren't)

lgkahn said:
the only ones that really had faulty sd cards were the i9000m' is that your phone if not i would flash doc's js3 or jpy
and speedmod or vodoo kernel
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Unfortunately I have an i9000m phone
which is why I want to switch
I'm thinking of selling it for like $400 then just paying the remainder in cash when the Atrix comes out
I KNOW the SGS is a good phone, don't get me wrong, but the i9000m is a piece of sh!t that will inevitably die on me ( i dont have the patience to wait months for a replacement )
I just need something that flies, I don't care about flashing roms because the Atrix will be faster than any SGS anyways. I only wanted to flash the SGS because mine is ridiculously slow, but if I flash it, I will destroy the phone probably because of the faulty SD card.

Have you tried to format the sd-cards? And i do mean the stock galaxy way. Backup all necessary files to your computer and just wipe them clean. I have had some instability problems in the past and this resolved it andb by the way the sgs is (in my opinion) as unbrickable as it gets. I have fcuked mine up
Num
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I also have SGS and i'm happy with it ....but motorola is a beast of phone and i would like to buy it but as it has locked bootloader i will rather wait for dual-core phone from samsung than buy atrix.
P.S. motorola spotted overheating issue on atrix and they said that it is going to be fixed until launch
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[Q] How to Unroot Lg Thrill?

Hello everyone,
It's nice to have a reason to be back in xda.
So recently I traded my iphone 4s for an LG Thrill + $150. So naturally, I made out of the deal. Anyway, upon receiving the phone, I noticed Superuser in the app drawer. Now I have never rooted an android before, so I would very much appreciate if someone could walk me through on how to do it, or link me to a thread that may explain it. The reason I am making my own thread about this is because Id also like a few questions answered if possible.
First of all, I want to unroot because I'm not sure if the previous owner installed any kind of tracking software on the phone, unlikely, but you never know. Also because I figure I will have to do it to update to ICS when it gets released for the Thrill. So I guess one of my questions are how do I tell what kind of stuff is installed on my phone from a rooted perspective. I noticed that for one unroot you need to have cwm installed, and i don't know how to go about to see if it is. I don't see it in the app drawer, so I'm not sure. Like I said, Ive never owned a rooted android before, only my jailbroken iphones.
Another question I had is that when I signed into my android email (I previously owned a motorola Xoom) it released an arsenal of unwanted emails and contacts into my phones contacts, I'm going to imagine there is a setting in the settings to untoggle this, and I will try to hunt it down, but if anyone could give me a heads up on where it is, thatd be ridiculously awesome.
Then another thing id like help with, is since im late in the game with the Thrill, maybe you could post any interesting threads youd think a newbie would like to see. I will spend my own time looking over xda (so please don't come in here and hate on me and tell me to look for it myself) I just figured you kind people that are in here a couple times a week would already know of some great stuff I could look at. It does get time consuming reading through the Troll posts and whatnot.
Anywho, Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you all in the coming days!

If anyone could help me, I have never been rooted like stated, and I'm just trying to gushed what I should do. I found out he used super one click method to root. And I see superuser in the apparently drawer, but I don't see clockwork recovery at all (and I don't even know what that is/does, but I know its important.) If anyone could just start a dialogue with me to help me get some of this figured out I'd be very appreciative. I just don't want to ultimately brick my phone.
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

I would check to see if clockwork mod recovery is installed first. If it is, then just install a different rom and you will know that any tracking stuff the previous user may have installed is gone.
To check for clockwork recovery, power your phone down completely. Hold the volume down button and the 3d button down, then press the power button until the phone vibrates and starts booting. If the phone boots normally, you don't have clockwork recovery. If you do have clockwork recovery, then install a custom rom from the development section and you're on your way. I like thriller and doomed froyo.
Enjoy!
-q
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Yes! I booted into an android recovery system, so I'm taking that I do have certain thanks, now I will have to look into the Roms.
Two side questions though, I will have to unroot before ICS right?
And when I turned off and booted like you said, once I got into the recovery attempt I just rebooted again, my battery was at 70 percent before the initial reboot and somhow now displaying it at 26 percent. Any ideas on that? I'm going to reset again to see if it drags back up. I am confused
EDIT: After turning it off on the battery is still reading in the twenty percent. I know for a fact that it should be up in the sixty seventy range. Does loading into recovery really destroy your battery like that? I had already done a full life cycle on the battery so I can't imagine that the batteries the issue
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So I just removed then replaced the battery and now its reading at 35 percent. Is this normal?
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Hey... haven't been checking this forum for a few days. It sounds like your battery stats are hosed. In cwr there is an option to wipe battery stats. That should do the trick.
You do not need to un-root in order to install a custom rom. The only thing to watch out for is what baseband the rom was developed for. The thrill ships with "froyo", Google's android 2.2 operating system and that's the only OS version that the baseband will function with. It is possible to flash the baseband from another country where "gingerbread" (2.3) has been released. Unfortunately this means that you may lose quite a bit of functionality on your phone. This is because the frequencies used in the country where that baseband was used are different. You are pretty much guaranteed to lose 4g and might get horrible signal on 3g.
Personally I will be waiting for at&t to roll out gingerbread for the thrill before I go down that path. You can still flash froyo based roms like Thriller and Doomed Froyo. Look for them in the "android development" subforum here.
Good luck!
-q
Sent from my LG-P925 using XDA App

It may be that the stats are shot, or it may be a glitch that (I think) the Thrill has. I remember reading at one point that simply turning the phone on and off would drain 10-20% of its battery, and mine has seemed to do the few times that I actually watched it... It's really annoying when you just want to restart the phone to apply something and then have to live with a smaller battery life for the rest of the day.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the input, and I will check that out in clockwork recovery.
I was worried about unrooting to install ics when it comes out, but I figure that may be a year or so :rolls eyes: but i think I found the forum for unrooting in the development section.
Also thanks for the warning on the baseband, I'm really glad I haven't gotten around to putting a rom on my thrill because I was looking at a gb one. You just saved my phone!
Sent from my LG-P925

I realise this wont answer your question but it might help you in a general since. I was in your position few months ago. I did play with roms some. I found what worked for me was ordering a higher capacity battery (link found in the accessory section), and the Doomed Froyo rom. Gave me the control I was used to from jailbreak ios and the extra battery life helps. Do a few searches for essential root apps before you play with roms. You need basics like root file explorer and titanium backing and so on. Enjoy your thrill
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[Q] O2X ICS when?

O2X ICS when?

slyzzz said:
O2X ICS when?
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You're asking in the wrong place mate, go and talk with some LG representatives or in their forums (if they have).
O2X have ICS already, look for CM9 (CyanogenMod9) and try it, is in beta though not everything works and problems are to be expected.
Finally; dude this is NO freaking yahoo answers, twitter or facebook so stop spamming with threads.

2nd quarter 2012 is the only date given so far.

Aloosh1982 said:
2nd quarter 2012 is the only date given so far.
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Witch we are right now and ends in June... and I srly doubt we will have ICS from LG this fast... I think something should have been leaked by now...

slyzzz said:
O2X ICS when?
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I ve naively installed cyanogen 9 with ics after going in loops and not being able to find simple information on front camera functions and why it is not working with skype.
welllll, let me put it this way
I would not recommend the above mentioned rom to my worst enemy
the half baked thing may be ok for people who are developing these things but for normal users it is just plainly and simply a big heartache , and apart from few different coloured user interfaces there is nothing that a normal user could call useful or good for everyday operation of the phone.
I lost my contacts at least 10 times in the span of 3 weeks that it is installed,
it restarts randomly, just sitting there on the table and next minute you notice silly blue starting animation twirling around,
video camera does not work,
normal camera works but freezes as soon as you try to install some other camera apps,
gallery freezes from time to time,
default music player does not work, I could only play music from es file explorer,
gps apps do not work or work randomly, you can not rely on them if you go somewhere.
hooking to free wi fi hot spots is a nightmare,
and this is just the start of my problems.
I really cried once after the phone just decided not to work out of the blue showing logo screen and not much else.
So, if you want your phone doing most of the normal things, DO NOT install untested half baked software lingering around.
Install them only if you understand inner workings of android system and can fix things that go wrong daily on the fly, because, I guarantee, things go wrong with this ROM when least expected and when you really need your phone.
Im currently trying to understand or for someone to explain to me how to return to gingerbread version because Im at my wits ends with this cg 9

You have to use NVflash to flash the original ROM from LG.
I'm not really familiar with this forum, so I don't know yet where to find the specific instructions, but just searching for "NVFlash" should give you the right results

Melonos said:
You have to use NVflash to flash the original ROM from LG.
I'm not really familiar with this forum, so I don't know yet where to find the specific instructions, but just searching for "NVFlash" should give you the right results
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thanks for info, I had a look into nvflash and one of senior members on these forums have recommended to be very careful when using it so Ill stay clear from that
and as I learn more about android system Im staring to realise that most of this so called development and upgrading is trial and error and should not be performed or used by everyday smart phone users.
Mu mum has lg p500 which has stock gingerbread upgrade on it and the phone is rock solid , not missing a beat for over a year, everything working perfectly .
I bought my phone because of my mums experience but made a huge mistake by thinking that upgrading android system is as easy and simple as you would upgrade a windows system.

Well its not that complicated - but a little bit more work than upgrading windows.
but in the end you can always restore the original system - like windows

Nvflash is not that complicated if you just read all the steps a couple of times. I have done a nvflash a couple of times and has worked fine for me every time.
Sent from my LG-P990 using Tapatalk 2

Or use Smartflash wich is simple
Sent 2X faster with my LG

OMG why?, theres already a full functional ics from lg?? lmao (LG said 2012 so its goin to be released in 2013)
I recomend you NOVA HD, nice stable, but no hdmi, no radio(am/fm) and u must use alternative camera aplication)
i would recomend you this version [NovaHD_RC22-41.zip], i had that one with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508492
It's soooooooooooooo smooth, and ics its nice, u should try it.
(anyways im going to flash back to gb, i miss the hdmi)

N1ght21 said:
OMG why?, theres already a full functional ics from lg?? lmao (LG said 2012 so its goin to be released in 2013)
I recomend you NOVA HD, nice stable, but no hdmi, no radio(am/fm) and u must use alternative camera aplication)
i would recomend you this version [NovaHD_RC22-41.zip], i had that one with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508492
It's soooooooooooooo smooth, and ics its nice, u should try it.
(anyways im going to flash back to gb, i miss the hdmi)
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Even hdmi is working. Atleast for me with owains.
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Doctor XDA :)

Hi!
I would like to ask some more experienced users or even some developers...probably..
Patient data:
-type: LG Optimus (Swift) Black P970
-age: approx. 2 years,
-firmware: CyanogenMod 10 Official,
-previous repairs: unknown,
-physical damage: 2 corners chipped/heavily scratched, rear panel scratched,
-obtained: by buying an used item
-problems:
=slow operation
=occassional freezing when fully loaded,
=very long boot time,
=long GPS fix and loosing the singnal (the longer you navigate, the more solid the fix),
The patient was so pathetic that I have bought another phone (S Galaxy S2, Cyanogened of course). Can I do anything to it so it could work okay? I would like to sell it...
Is there any method to "refresh" the phone? To fully wipe it or something... Or is it a physical damage which cannot be reversed?

Killermaster66 said:
Hi!
I would like to ask some more experienced users or even some developers...probably..
Patient data:
-type: LG Optimus (Swift) Black P970
-age: approx. 2 years,
-firmware: CyanogenMod 10 Official,
-previous repairs: unknown,
-physical damage: 2 corners chipped/heavily scratched, rear panel scratched,
-obtained: by buying an used item
-problems:
=slow operation
=occassional freezing when fully loaded,
=very long boot time,
=long GPS fix and loosing the singnal (the longer you navigate, the more solid the fix),
The patient was so pathetic that I have bought another phone (S Galaxy S2, Cyanogened of course). Can I do anything to it so it could work okay? I would like to sell it...
Is there any method to "refresh" the phone? To fully wipe it or something... Or is it a physical damage which cannot be reversed?
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Install a stock or stock based ICS Rom, everything will work as intended, unless there is a hardware failure.

You think it is a software glitch? I thought that kept in so high regard CyanogenMod would work better than stock ROM, but I will give it a try. I firstly need to find stock roms in this forum

Killermaster66 said:
You think it is a software glitch? I thought that kept in so high regard CyanogenMod would work better than stock ROM, but I will give it a try. I firstly need to find stock roms in this forum
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Never. If you want something to work as it should, stock it, otherwise there will always be pros & cons.

I know, but for example my SGS2 is working only better with CM

Each phone is different in this aspect. In the case of our phone, cm is very laggy and full of bugs. Cm works better on Samsungs.

ykumar00 said:
Each phone is different in this aspect. In the case of our phone, cm is very laggy and full of bugs. Cm works better on Samsungs.
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CM10 can be buggy... more so over time. If you like the jelly I suggest backing up your information and flashing it. If you look in my sig check out 4cylturbo it helped me alot(be sure to read all of the requirements in the OP).
In regards to the GPS thats normal... you can optimize the settings using pimp my rom.

ykumar00 said:
Cm works better on Samsungs.
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That is why I bought Samsung phone
Okay, Then I shall proceed to flash another ROM and try till it works fine. Thank you

Anything Jelly Bean based (CM10 or 10.1) has known issues/bugs with this phone which, to me, make the phone harder to use on a daily basis. It seems to make the phone run slower, especially after you add a few apps. And it's annoying because on every reboot it will uninstall the apps installed to the sd card. Also you have to side-load a different camera and gallery if you don't want a lot of FC's and crashes.
I recommend using a custom Gingerbread based ROM. The two I have tried so far have been awesome, fast and pretty much problem-free. I'd recommend Zeus v7.06 or CiCi v3.0.
Cheers.

Is the Optimus Black still useful?

I realise, this forum is kinda old... so here are my questions. I hope someone still can help me:
(I'll get my moms old Optimus Black.)
What I need: a stable, fast phone what simply works
What is the easiest way to achieve this goal?
Do I even have to root it?
Should I stock update and then root und clean it a bit?
Should I flash another stock version and root it?
Should I use a custom rom? Which one? (Dont hate me for this question)
cheers

Moto_G_Lucifer said:
I realise, this forum is kinda old... so here are my questions. I hope someone still can help me:
(I'll get my moms old Optimus Black.)
What I need: a stable, fast phone what simply works
What is the easiest way to achieve this goal?
Do I even have to root it?
Should I stock update and then root und clean it a bit?
Should I flash another stock version and root it?
Should I use a custom rom? Which one? (Dont hate me for this question)
cheers
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The OB is a little long-in-the-tooth. Just look at the news and read about all of the security issues with older Android OSes. Hardware-wise, most of these OB phones are starting to fail (for the Android world, the OB has had a LONG life).
For the OB, anything after Gingerbread (2.3-4 - 2.3.7) has "problems"; ICS was nothing but a headache, and later custom ROMs (JB & KK) worked, but had issues related to the lack of updated drivers. JB and KK ROMs also seem to have poor battery life.
I don't know what part of the world you live in, but in the US you can get a pre-paid $80-100 StraightTalk (Walmart) or Net10 phone, pay about $45-50 per month for service. I'm seeing an LG Sunset with Android 5.0 for $99 on the StraightTalk website. The Sunset is faster, offers more features and security, and has a larger display.
Amazon has many unlocked GSM phones for cheap as well; I'd just look for KK or higher.
If you're completely "stuck" with the OB, and you want stability and everything to work, I'd look at Marvel 9 with the "There is no delay" patch. Dump the included Messaging app, and replace it with something like TextSecure. You can still probably download a functioning version of Lightning Browser or Naked Browser from the Play Store, although the Webkit (that almost all Browsers use) for GB has many security holes.
I keep my OB around solely as a "spare"; if I ever break or lose my current Android phone, I have a short-term (VERY) fallback until I can get a newer replacement. My OB is running as described above with Marvel 9.

That's true.
A few weeks ago, i've put my Optimus Black in the "closet of time".
Its box, set of hands free, charger ... served for good, since November 2011 as far as i remember.
Up to last year, battery is alright, sreen also ... no scratches at the front, despite i've never used a protective case or anything (and i never will)...
Everything okay, except the too old hardware, which limited funcionality A LOT.
You cannot run newer applications that fast, it was started to getting a game of patience. Even facebook messenger and decent GPS apps were getting slow to a nerve breaking point.
Tossed it on my closet or old hardware satsified and went for a new one of the same price range.
I'll be glad if my new one (4core, 4,5" screen) will last the same.