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Hi all. Just got this phone (LG Optimus 2X) a few days ago but after reading all the mixed reviews on it and the problems people are having with it I'm not sure if it's a good one to have. The constant crashing of some of the apps is the first thing I noticed. Then the shockingly short battery life (just over 13 hours on a full charge WITHOUT using the phone at all,brightness all the way down,fewer apps)... This is my first "smart phone" ever and I don't know anything about stuff like ROM,flashing,rooting... which means I can't mess with the phone at this point. I was looking at the Samsung Galaxy S II T989 AWS+850 3G, S II 727 skyrocket or S II AWS and I'm wondering if they're better phones. I'm with Windmobile (Canada) and running Android 2.2. I only have a couple of days to make a decision (keep it or exchange it for something different). Any advice?
To be fair to LG, they make decent hardware but their software are like s**t!
Anyway, the very least... Root... Custom Kernel... if you not comfortable with custom rom, then you can skip custom rom first.
At this point, I feel any other phone is better than 2x... Simply because Nvidia and LG are not working well together.
If you still have the chance, I'd recommend you to just send it back and get a better phone. The phone's hardware is decent (not the best), but LG's and Nvidia's support just doesn't cut it.
If you consider the S2 as an option, you'd just better go with it.
Thank you guys for the replies. It's becoming obvious to me the Samsung S2 is a better phone -although not by much- but the thing is, with the LG I didn't have to pay anything while the Samsung is going to cost a couple hundred or so (cant remember exactly) and I don't know if it's worth it for me since I'm not really crazy about having the best smart phones out there. I'm thinking if the LG can at least be reliable I'm ok with it. Like I said, I don't know anything about all these mods you can do to your phone but do they really make a difference?
Also, I tried to update to 2.3 but kept getting "phone has latest version..." message although it's running 2.2 currently.
Install the latest ginger bread. 20Q. its excellent compared with original stock. though you have to root it...
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At this point, I feel any other phone is better than 2x... Simply because Nvidia and LG are not working well together.
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For the first part - I beg to differ. Our phone just got to the point when we can say that it is a good phone, with good software. Using latest official 20q or better yet, customized versions. And there is CM also.
Yes, battery can last enough with everything working just fine, with some updating or flashing various upgrades.
But it took us almost a year to get here. Because nVidia screwed us with not being involved at all, on that we all agree.
We have bought several ones as early adaptors but we have a lot of problems or had in the past... There are a lot of better phones out there it's a relieve to say goodbye after a year of use.
The latest great thing is the phone shutdown after a message saying almost empty battery lol and after a restart the percentage is 65% Most buggy software and a gingerbread update based on the froyo kernel...
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Thanks again for the replies and sharing your opinions.
Supupa, the problem is I have no clue what "rooting", "flashing", "CM".... mean or how it's done. I'm sure with time and some reading and asking I'll be able to learn some of that stuff. The first thing I tried to do was to update the Android version to 2.3 but for whatever reason it didn't want to. I'm mostly concerned about the appalling battery life. A mere 14 hours on a full charge with no use (of the phone) is unacceptable no matter how good a phone is. I am going to take a second look at the Galaxy S II tomorrow and see if I can live with the cheap build.
I don't know, but to me a smart phone with bugs can't be that smart.
I would not buy it again. The hardware is very good, but the software is crap.
Best thing you can do right now is to:
1. download latest firmware: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP990/AITADW/V20q_00/V20Q_00.kdz (found here)
2. follow one of the guides for flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327929
This will update everything so you don't have to bother with baseband and RIL right now. And give it a try. If it runs good enough keep it and/or customize it, if not, well...
edit: but wait! Isn't that really LG G2x or P-999 in Wind mobile? If it is, youre in the wrong forum (G2x is here) and that update will make a mess. It's not the same phone although it looks identical. Go to settings > about phone, scroll down and see what it says there. Or make a screenshot and attach it here.
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For the first part - I beg to differ. Our phone just got to the point when we can say that it is a good phone, with good software. Using latest official 20q or better yet, customized versions. And there is CM also.
Yes, battery can last enough with everything working just fine, with some updating or flashing various upgrades.
But it took us almost a year to get here. Because nVidia screwed us with not being involved at all, on that we all agree.
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I agree with Dac0908,
The phone's hardware is good, the software is ****.
And now the developers @ XDA Have so much good ROMS and now even ICS for us to say that it is a good phone again.
And the battery performance can be increased at a huge rate with a different kernel.
My phone's battery record of staying alive is 86 hours, just saying!
lg O2x v20q with spica1234 kernel sr3+pp10.Excellent
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Best thing you can do right now is to:
1. download latest firmware: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP990/AITADW/V20q_00/V20Q_00.kdz (found here)
2. follow one of the guides for flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327929
This will update everything so you don't have to bother with baseband and RIL right now. And give it a try. If it runs good enough keep it and/or customize it, if not, well...
edit: but wait! Isn't that really LG G2x or P-999 in Wind mobile? If it is, youre in the wrong forum (G2x is here) and that update will make a mess. It's not the same phone although it looks identical. Go to settings > about phone, scroll down and see what it says there. Or make a screenshot and attach it here.
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Thanks, Dac. My phone is the P999 actually. Anyway, I have to return the phone tomorrow because I think it's defective. I've only had it for a few days and only 4 minutes of talk time but the phone keeps disconnecting itself from service and keeps displaying the message "Emergency only". I've talked to the technical support 3 times already and went one time to the store where I bought but only a few hours after we "fix" the problem it comes back and I lose connection. The phone also kept switching between Wind Home and Wind Away on its own even though I was sitting at home. I was watching Youtube and suddenly the screen went completely black and I had to shut the phone off to get the screen to work again. I have no doubt this particular phone is DEFECTIVE. Very bad start. My Sony Ericsson 580 has been working without a glitch whatsoever since I bought it in Feb '08 and the battery still gives me the same exact time it did when it was brand new.
I don't know if I'll be having the same problems if I get another similar LG 2X. I like the phone but the problems I'm having with mine and what I've learned about this phone in the past few days make me wanna steer away from it now. I really want to give the LG O2X a try but I don't know.
Tough luck, can happen to any brand or model
Well it's not a bad phone. Most of software glitches are fixed now, community is strong, and for that price I don't think you can get something better. I'm talking about market prices, not subsidized by carriers of course.
S2 is in higher price class: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_r_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-713.php but it's a free world... well, sort of.
Thanks, Dac. Yeah I know. It's electronics. Didn't get a chance to go to the store today. I'll go tomorrow and decide if I'm going to keep this phone or get a Samsung. If I keep it and figure out how to do all the things that can be done to make it a better phone I hope it would be reliable for at least a couple of years.
LG optimus 2X was the cheepest dual core high-end phone I could find on a second hand market in my country. Of course I flashed CM7 (I'm on a Temasek's latest KANG) and my phone is rock stable and very fast. I'm using ADW EX launcher btw. I can only sugest to the OP to invest some time in exploring how to get ROOT and how to flash custom rom because that will be usefull regardless of which android phone you have. It is actually very hard to truly "brick" your phone, I've had a broken connection wih a PC in the middle of flashing a custom rom with ODIN on my old Samsung Spica because of bad drivers and I still managed to get my phone working easily
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LG optimus 2X was the cheepest dual core high-end phone I could find on a second hand market in my country. Of course I flashed CM7 (I'm on a Temasek's latest KANG) and my phone is rock stable and very fast. I'm using ADW EX launcher btw. I can only sugest to the OP to invest some time in exploring how to get ROOT and how to flash custom rom because that will be usefull regardless of which android phone you have. It is actually very hard to truly "brick" your phone, I've had a broken connection wih a PC in the middle of flashing a custom rom with ODIN on my old Samsung Spica because of bad drivers and I still managed to get my phone working easily
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Man!! It keeps getting more and more complicated. I have no idea what "bricking" is, ADW launcher,... So many things that I don't know anything about.
Looks like the only other decent phone I can get on Windtab is the Samsung Nexus. It's $250 while the LG is free. I'm assuming the Nexus is better than the LG but It looks ugly with that stupid curve and it feels really cheap.So, I don't know. I'm still deciding, but is the Nexus worth the money?
I was sorta in the same boat as you last week, (choosing between the Galaxy S, P990 and the Galaxy S2.).
1. The Galaxy S (with flashed rom and kernel) was already an awesome phone which could do anything you wanted, and during my short usage I found the P990 either equal (smoothness, gps fix speed) or even better (camera, wifi/3g connection strength, HDMI without $50 cable).
2. Flashing (= installing) new and better software is a piece of cake for this phone. Now I know you're new so it might not look as a piece of cake to you, but in physical steps it boils down to:
How to Root your phone. (= Give yourself full access to the phone)
1. Install software "LG United Mobile Driver 3.6" (use google) on pc.
2. Install software "SuperOneClick" (use google) on pc.
3. Connect phone to pc, then click "Root" in "SuperOneClick"
Done
How to Install custom firmware/rom/kernel
Assuming you have an external microSD card inserted.
1. Install CWM Recovery
Go to android market (on phone) and download ROM Manager. In ROM Manager choose "install/flash ClockWorkMod (CWM) Recovery
2. Download any new ROM you wish to install from this forum and put it anywhere on the phone.
3. Enter CWM Recovery mode
(When the phone is off: hold Volume Down and Power buttons. The white LG logo will come up, keep holding. Let go when the LG logo suddenly gets a blue background. Note: If you hold these buttons without succesfully installing CWM (step 1), then you will factory reset your phone and it will reboot again.
The following steps are covered in every thread on ROMs, every rom maker includes instructions on how to flash (=install) their ROMs. Yet in about 9.9 of 10 cases it boils down to:
4. In CWM Recovery, go to "Backup and Restore", and make a Nandroid backup. (You need an external microSD for this).
Move the cursor in CWM Recovery with the volume buttons and enter with the power key.
5. Do a factory reset. (Wipe Data, Wipe Cache)
Yes this will wipe your apps, appdata, messages and contacts so have that backed up if you want, but since you have a new phone, you won't have anything to save. It will not delete anything that wasn't in the Data folder, such as photo's/music.
6. Then go to "Install ZIP from SD card". Browse to the downloaded ROM (step 2), select it. It will install, will take about 1 minute. That's it. Reboot.
You can choose from ROMs based on official LG android, or totally rebuilt from scratch such as CyanogenMod (CM7), or based on CM7. ROMs with a CM7 base will look significantly different from stock roms, and subjectively I'd say these are the better roms to look at as they've been more developed. You can find CM7 roms because they have the [CM7] tag in the thread title in the Optimus 2X Development forum.
Now read more guides on how to do it (because I may have forgotten something), I just wanted to give you a basic overview of what's waiting for you. Enjoy!
As per what you pay, its the best
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Hey guys,
I think it's great that you're trying to help our friend Electroman here... but please keep one thing in mind, the ROMs in this section are for P990. Electroman, if you try to flash your P999 with a ROM for P990 you will risk bricking your phone. (Bricking your phone is basically turning your phone into a brick... or paper weight) So please proceed with caution.
Well, I'm an x8 user, I'm gonna change the phone in some months and wanna ask if i really should buy this device
I know too much about roms cuz well I'm developing one
I wanna ask you guys, should i use it in stock and then wait for official ics or stock roms suck?
Does this phone really need all the stuff to work smooth? I mean custom kernel, rom etc because well its dualcore phone and looks that in some post i read, my phone works better
Thanks
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It's an awesome phone with cm7
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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But an official update to ics wont be enough? cuz i guess LG will fix lots of things in ics
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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leroy_coco said:
Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
LarsPT said:
I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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So, theres a way ti change that bloatware?
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Sorry But i dont know what bloatware mean
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
LarsPT said:
My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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leroy_coco said:
Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
SP1996AC said:
Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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Who needs that anyways?
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Who needs that anyways?
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Me, camera: i need an HD camera because i don't have one
HDMI: i have an LCD and i wanna get the best experience in gaming, movies etc
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I have lots if things to learn, but this is a good start
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For me, this phone is best in its class and value-for-money phone.
I only have 1 complain, The battery.
But once you get an extended battery, this phone is perfect.
But once you get an extended battery
What you mean?
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There are batteries you can buy with more capacity than the stock battery that comes with the phone.
However, I can easily get two day battery life with the stock battery, so personally I don't understand why so many people complain about their battery life. As far as I know it's about the same as other smart phones.
Hi guys, I'm definitely thinking about buying an LG Optimus 2X, because over here in NZ it is by far the cheapest dual core phone, yet is similar/on par with many of the latest phones.
Before I decide to buy it however, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clear things up.
- Based on many reviews, the UI seems occasionally choppy, and I've also heard that many users aren't happy with a large number of bugs and crashes. Is this fixed when the phone is updated from froyo to gingerbread? Ice cream sandwich is also officially coming for the 2X which sounds promising.
- Is the battery life acceptable? Spec sheets say it runs on a 1500 mAh battery which sounds, theoretically, quite awful :/ I'd like to know if you get used to it or not. I'm not a huge traveler, so I'd use it at home most of the time, occasionally when going out.
- Design-wise, the camera protrudes slightly on the back. I'm worried that this might make the lens more susceptible to damage and cracks. Has this affected anyone?
I'd really appreciate answers for these questions. Thanks a lot.
Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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What protection is that..?
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What protection is that..?
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Even when you remove the back cover the camera still has the lens (just like any normal compact camera), The back cover is actually only there to prevent the lens from getting dirty, I believe, and it's easy to clean (every time I take a picture I clean the back cover with my shirt and the results are pretty good )
Now, regarding the OP, I bought it and I don't regret my purchase not one bit. It's true a lot of people complain about bugs and crashes but my experience even with the stock Froyo ROM was actually good. And when I flashed a custom ROM what was already good just got great.
So yeah, I would say there's nothing out there that beats the price/quality on the O2X.
@LarsPT
Uhuh, that's true. The lens has its own piece of glass in front of it which protects it. The extra piece of glass from the backcover is just to make sure that the lens doesn't get dirty. In my case, this extra glass remains dirty even if I try to clean it. Therefore I decided to cut it out...
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Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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NOT AT ALL
In CM, there has been ported a camera app(stock LG) due to which it is just good
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Beplexor said:
Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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I think you'll be more than happy with the O2X to do all of the above.
If you want to check picture quality you can check it here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150296662400657.555672.662115656&type=3&l=8675ea8903
The first four photos (take a look at the arc de la défense) were taken with it, I like it.
Thanks to everyone who's posted. I've just got one more question for people who have rooted their 2X. The web browsing seems quite laggy when using stock froyo (perhaps gingerbread?). When you root the phone, is this problem solved? Thanks.
Hi Beplexor!
When I'm surfing the web the only time I get a "laggy" experience is when the reception is not so great, like when I'm on the train or bus. If I'm at a fix position with HDSPA it surfs great. I haven't even felt the need to user another browser other than the stock one.
Really, there's nothing I can throw at this phone that it can't handle! I'm not the most demanding of users, but still, I find it great!
I'm glad everyone is so positive about this phone, but I am not.
It has lots of issues and glitches, and although tweaking, rooting and installing custrom roms is certainly nice, there is always this or that 'wrong' with it. It all depends on what you want.
If you like tweaking and messing around and don't mind some rough edges, then yes, it is a nice phone which works well.
If you want a phone that just works, then no, this phone is not a good idea.
Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all. And there are more people with this problem. The cell-radio keeps crashing. CM 7.1/7.2 does not have this problem, so I'm using this.
However, voice quality is poor, I have issues with Wifi not wanting to activate after 2-3 days and I need to reboot every 1-2 days anyway because of performance drops. After 48 hours it is impossible, for example, to watch a Youtube video, use Skype or play any game. After a reboot performance is great again.
So, it all depends on what you want with and expect from a phone. And of course how much money you're willing to spend and a whole lot of other factors
And as for the CM9 builds (ICS): the camera doesn't work properly and things like FM radio don't work (properly). Also, no HW acceleration so some newer ICS apps don't work either. So, I'm eagerly awaing the official LG ICS to see how that fares.
Bottom-line: I'm not saying the phone is bad for everyone or it's a piece of crap, I'm just saying that if it is important to you that the phone 'just works' and 'always works', then this phone is not a good idea.
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Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all.
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If your phone was crap with stock firmware I think you have a faulty equipment and should have asked for a replacement.
My phone worked great with stock and works excellent with custom.
No matter what brand you choose there will always be faulty equipment. Of course, some brands have tighter quality control then others, and that reflects on the price.
For the price of this phone it is normal to expect worse quality control, this just means the probability of getting a faulty equipment are higher, you just have to test it properly and send it back if it doesn't work.
Of course, if this is something you would rather pay more and not have to worry about this, I would advise against LG, but so far this is my second LG phone and I'm a happy customer!
Thanks for your reply. Based on my experiences with the device, I am pretty sure it's not faulty equipment.
The price of the phone was close to 500 euros when I got it, so the argument about the price doens'nt really hold, imho.
Let's just say there are people that are happy with it, and there are also a lot of people that are unhappy. Therefore, I personally cannot recommend this phone if you want one that always/just works.
We might have some semantics problems here.
In your original post you say "Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. "
When you say the hardware revision is a factor, for me hardware revisions are there because the older hardware had flaws. For me this qualifies as faulty equipment.
The "current" hardware revision, or at least the one I've got, worked fine out of the box. Maybe that's why you're not as happy a customer as I am, because you got a "hardware revision" from back when the price was still 500 eur. Now I can say it's much better, I've had no issues so far at all.
Hi guys, I'm only 15 years old and any phone I buy will be bought using my own money earned from a part time job. I want a medium-high end phone, but it's my own money and I'm not willing to cash out heaps, therefore I think the O2X will be a great choice. I understand it's not the most stable phone out there, but the fact remains that it IS a very affordable dual core phone.
I know that you guys say root and flash the moment you get it, but like some people say in this thread, the phone doesn't seem to work to its full potential e.g absence of certain applications, shady camera etc. If I get the phone, it's highly likely that I'll just wait until stock ICS comes out, which isn't far away; LG promised it within Q2 of this year.
Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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I'll definitely give that advice a chance...just wondering, if I were to root it, I'd just go into the Android Development section right? Could you please link me to clear tutorials on how to flash CM (such as the one you have right now) onto the O2X? Thanks.
I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Uhmm... I use the Unofficial Build (KANG) from Temasek. Don't worry, it's still CM but then with some extra little goodies baked in (cherry-pickings). With other words, I use a CM7 version compiled by an user, Temasek, instead of a CM7 version compiled by the official CM bot. But if you want an official CM7, then you should use the latest Nightly Build, because they're far more stable than the 'Stable Mod', not to mention that nightlies are even better too. Actually, you can compare Temaseks Unofficial build with the latest nightly, I believe there's not much difference between them. Nevertheless, a lot of people like his Unofficial builds.
There are no issues for CM7 I believe. I'm using it for about four months now (actually three, I also played a month around with CM9 which is a little too buggy for me, but it was awesome anyway ) However you should keep in mind that the camera quality of CM7 is not so good, compared to the stock camera quality. This is because the camera needs special libs from the stock LG rom to work good and those libs don't work on CM7 for some reason. But, there's a solution to that! Go to Temaseks KANG thread (link in signature) and go the third post. There you'll find a whole lot of mods compiled by other users. Download and flash the camera mod by Kostja_V in CWM recovery. This improves the camera a lot.
Hope this helped!
O2X ICS when?
slyzzz said:
O2X ICS when?
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You're asking in the wrong place mate, go and talk with some LG representatives or in their forums (if they have).
O2X have ICS already, look for CM9 (CyanogenMod9) and try it, is in beta though not everything works and problems are to be expected.
Finally; dude this is NO freaking yahoo answers, twitter or facebook so stop spamming with threads.
2nd quarter 2012 is the only date given so far.
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2nd quarter 2012 is the only date given so far.
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Witch we are right now and ends in June... and I srly doubt we will have ICS from LG this fast... I think something should have been leaked by now...
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O2X ICS when?
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I ve naively installed cyanogen 9 with ics after going in loops and not being able to find simple information on front camera functions and why it is not working with skype.
welllll, let me put it this way
I would not recommend the above mentioned rom to my worst enemy
the half baked thing may be ok for people who are developing these things but for normal users it is just plainly and simply a big heartache , and apart from few different coloured user interfaces there is nothing that a normal user could call useful or good for everyday operation of the phone.
I lost my contacts at least 10 times in the span of 3 weeks that it is installed,
it restarts randomly, just sitting there on the table and next minute you notice silly blue starting animation twirling around,
video camera does not work,
normal camera works but freezes as soon as you try to install some other camera apps,
gallery freezes from time to time,
default music player does not work, I could only play music from es file explorer,
gps apps do not work or work randomly, you can not rely on them if you go somewhere.
hooking to free wi fi hot spots is a nightmare,
and this is just the start of my problems.
I really cried once after the phone just decided not to work out of the blue showing logo screen and not much else.
So, if you want your phone doing most of the normal things, DO NOT install untested half baked software lingering around.
Install them only if you understand inner workings of android system and can fix things that go wrong daily on the fly, because, I guarantee, things go wrong with this ROM when least expected and when you really need your phone.
Im currently trying to understand or for someone to explain to me how to return to gingerbread version because Im at my wits ends with this cg 9
You have to use NVflash to flash the original ROM from LG.
I'm not really familiar with this forum, so I don't know yet where to find the specific instructions, but just searching for "NVFlash" should give you the right results
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You have to use NVflash to flash the original ROM from LG.
I'm not really familiar with this forum, so I don't know yet where to find the specific instructions, but just searching for "NVFlash" should give you the right results
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thanks for info, I had a look into nvflash and one of senior members on these forums have recommended to be very careful when using it so Ill stay clear from that
and as I learn more about android system Im staring to realise that most of this so called development and upgrading is trial and error and should not be performed or used by everyday smart phone users.
Mu mum has lg p500 which has stock gingerbread upgrade on it and the phone is rock solid , not missing a beat for over a year, everything working perfectly .
I bought my phone because of my mums experience but made a huge mistake by thinking that upgrading android system is as easy and simple as you would upgrade a windows system.
Well its not that complicated - but a little bit more work than upgrading windows.
but in the end you can always restore the original system - like windows
Nvflash is not that complicated if you just read all the steps a couple of times. I have done a nvflash a couple of times and has worked fine for me every time.
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Or use Smartflash wich is simple
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OMG why?, theres already a full functional ics from lg?? lmao (LG said 2012 so its goin to be released in 2013)
I recomend you NOVA HD, nice stable, but no hdmi, no radio(am/fm) and u must use alternative camera aplication)
i would recomend you this version [NovaHD_RC22-41.zip], i had that one with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508492
It's soooooooooooooo smooth, and ics its nice, u should try it.
(anyways im going to flash back to gb, i miss the hdmi)
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OMG why?, theres already a full functional ics from lg?? lmao (LG said 2012 so its goin to be released in 2013)
I recomend you NOVA HD, nice stable, but no hdmi, no radio(am/fm) and u must use alternative camera aplication)
i would recomend you this version [NovaHD_RC22-41.zip], i had that one with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508492
It's soooooooooooooo smooth, and ics its nice, u should try it.
(anyways im going to flash back to gb, i miss the hdmi)
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Even hdmi is working. Atleast for me with owains.
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hi ppl;
i have a new LG 2x i read a lot in the forum and i dont get any conclusion :S
can someone tell me what are the rooms stable and bugs free?
thaks a lot
If you want a stable and bug free rom i would recommend temasek's cm7 rom.
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hi ppl;
i have a new LG 2x i read a lot in the forum and i dont get any conclusion :S
can someone tell me what are the rooms stable and bugs free?
thaks a lot
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No rom is perfect or completely bug free - even stock isn't. So the choice of which rom you'll use depends on some tradeoffs. If you can live with some forced closes and the lack of hardware acceleration isn't an issue, I'd say go with CyanogenMod 9, since ICS brings a fantastic user experience. Otherwise, CyanogenMod 7 is a great choice, but it lacks some convenient stuff from stock, like HDMI settings and some cool widgets, for example, but is definetly faster.
If you are looking for stable, a stock rom free of brand software, but it's always recommended to try and see what fits you. You have some gb tweaked roms, CM7 and WIUI which is the one I'm currently using (and loving), have had some randoms reboots but it's still worthy.
More stable i think CM 7 but more costumized are cm9, you choose
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thx ppl, for me bugs are ´t a force close ... aplication not responding .. or something like that is for example gps don´t work, radio, batery drain.... etc
Dont pick any CM rom at all, the rom's cant handle a baseband that work 100% so you get a lot of system FC and statusbar is gone, and also a lot of instability and battery drains.
If i were you go for stock, the AmnonRom V20q
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544105 is a nice one.
Baseband : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500443 get 313 only one working for me of so many basebands, and i have a SU660 :S
If you have a normal 2x go for 420, my mate says he waited a year for a working baseband and it is the only one working for him.
People who are saying that CM is stable on 2x is ether A. Protecting the dev so he can continue working, or B. lieing to make them self feel better(or pick a reason).
Too many tests have been done on the basebands and none of last year basebands work.
ok i go try this one, ther no vercion 2.3.7 working good?
for the post i see ICS is working like crap..
There is no baseband for ICS so you will loose signal and voice in phone will be bad.
And ofc no HW drivers for ICS.
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Dont pick any CM rom at all, the rom's cant handle a baseband that work 100% so you get a lot of system FC and statusbar is gone, and also a lot of instability and battery drains.
If i were you go for stock, the AmnonRom V20q
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544105 is a nice one.
Baseband : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500443 get 313 only one working for me of so many basebands, and i have a SU660 :S
If you have a normal 2x go for 420, my mate says he waited a year for a working baseband and it is the only one working for him.
People who are saying that CM is stable on 2x is ether A. Protecting the dev so he can continue working, or B. lieing to make them self feel better(or pick a reason).
Too many tests have been done on the basebands and none of last year basebands work.
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Rofl.. can't take this ****..:banghead:
dinmorerbedst said:
Dont pick any CM rom at all, the rom's cant handle a baseband that work 100% so you get a lot of system FC and statusbar is gone, and also a lot of instability and battery drains.
If i were you go for stock, the AmnonRom V20q
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544105 is a nice one.
Baseband : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500443 get 313 only one working for me of so many basebands, and i have a SU660 :S
If you have a normal 2x go for 420, my mate says he waited a year for a working baseband and it is the only one working for him.
People who are saying that CM is stable on 2x is ether A. Protecting the dev so he can continue working, or B. lieing to make them self feel better(or pick a reason).
Too many tests have been done on the basebands and none of last year basebands work.
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On your "CM is stable" choices, you forgot to add a third option:
C. smart enough to know what they're doing. And are enjoying their O2X alot.
CM7 runs great, CM9 runs good.
I will never go back to stock.
@dinmorerbedst:
It sucks that you have had that bad experience but this doesn't mean others have that, too. I don't know if you're just unlucky and got a bad phone or didn't read enough to flash the right CM builds.
Most people are very happy with Cyanogenmod builds and they run great for them. Period.
I hope you all who have updated your device would care to share a little bit more than "it's great" or "it's crap". This thread now seems to get a little bit better, but it could be really good if you guys could open up a little bit what did you do etc. so that it's easier to determine what worked / what didn't.
I'm frustrated with LG at the moment and want to get a custom ROM. Therefore I do really appreciate your comments and experience as some of you have been already experimenting in this area. Now I'm just trying to figure out what did each of you do and I'm willing to write / update instructions what to do for this device if I get it to work.
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I have personaly tested all the roms i could get from this forum on 2- 2x phones+ all the basebands.
I can tell you that CM9 is the most unstable rom to date.
If my phone's hardware is bugged why is it the same for 2 versions of the mobile?
It seems like you dont look at your status bar very often, cause "crash bands" that will say pre 2012 basebands crash on both mobiles, and on another of my friends P990.
3 devices, 2 identical(P990) and 1 SU660 with the same problems all over, they need the 313(SU660) and 420(P990) basebands to work, that cant be faulty hardware, that is faulty LG.
Ril dont matter at all, i cant see difference and log cat reports the same, nothing different.
You guys can bang your head to my reply's but 2 months of hardcore testing should speak for it self.
TBH i could care less about people that dont even test they phone and just state CM7 works fine, when it dont.
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I'm on CM9 since arcee's sk, and though it's not perfect it's fast becoming pretty stable, to me at least. My baseband is 405 with matching ril and all works fine, no reboots, no bsod, no nothing. Tested nova hd, owain since 1 to 74, even MIUI V4, and all works really well.
Also temaseks CM7 is the most stable rom i tried, so either you have 2 faulty devices or i am one lucky bastard.
Just my 2 cents.
Rz
Sent from my LG-O2X.
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There is no baseband for ICS so you will loose signal and voice in phone will be bad.
And ofc no HW drivers for ICS.
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That's a lot of nonsense in just two postings. :O
CM9 is quite fine for everyday use, just video makes problems. That's why I am on temasek's CM7. Flawless, and I am a heavy user.
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I am also on Temaseks CM7 and enjoying it a lot. Especially since the latest overclocked kernel
I didn't bother to read the whole thread, but basically what I did was:
1. Root phone
2. Install Clockwork Recovery
3. Flash latest Temasek rom
4. Flash latest Temasek kernel, which can be found on the same servers as his roms.
I used to miss my (stolen) Galaxy S when I got this 'inferior' 2X. It was slow and development wasn't as plentiful. Then I got AlienRevolution, also a CM7 rom. It was good, but development stopped. Then I tried the ICS roms too, but had random problems, slowness and usually no GPS fix. Along with the 'no video' thing, it was a no brainer to go back to CM7.
I don't miss the Galaxy S anymore. The 2X is stable, fast, GPS fixes are rediculously fast (10 seconds, no matter where I am). Battery life lasts me more than 24hrs (but thats with 2G, using 3G only when necessary). Friends who adore their Iphone4 are also impressed by the snappyness, so it's not just me. Infact, I'm so happy with this stuff that I won't buy a new phone for at least a year. How's that?
To be fair, I never tried the modded stock roms.
edit: Apperently some guy in this thread is bad mouthing CM7 and its users. Quite weird that 100's of happy users all lie to themselves to keep a developer happy... Anyways as for stability, I use my phone for gaming and benchmarking, and not once has it crashed or FC'd.
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That's a lot of nonsense in just two postings. :O
CM9 is quite fine for everyday use, just video makes problems. That's why I am on temasek's CM7. Flawless, and I am a heavy user.
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What do mean by that? do you test out the basebands or are you just trash talking about stuff you know nothing about?
Video is not the only problem for these "kangs"
Lets see... this forum is basicly dead, what i mean is that alot of people already left, and you guys that are left are talking nice and backing up the devs, when they work is not really all that good and most of the time the so called "fixes" dont fix anything.
All cause you are scarred they might leave or get a better phone.
And btw why use 218 ril as standard for CM roms when i and others get data loss and most of the time no signal at all, when using old basebands and they obsolete ril's.
I mean come on guys so many basebands with unstable data connection and you guys say it is working? i have to lol at you guys, it is the same in the goverment :
"It is working not perfectly but just.... so it is fine."
That is your attitude and it is lol, really.
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What do mean by that? do you test out the basebands or are you just trash talking about stuff you know nothing about?
Video is not the only problem for these "kangs"
Lets see... this forum is basicly dead, what i mean is that alot of people already left, and you guys that are left are talking nice and backing up the devs, when they work is not really all that good and most of the time the so called "fixes" dont fix anything.
All cause you are scarred they might leave or get a better phone.
And btw why use 218 ril as standard for CM roms when i and others get data loss and most of the time no signal at all, when using old basebands and they obsolete ril's.
I mean come on guys so many basebands with unstable data connection and you guys say it is working? i have to lol at you guys, it is the same in the goverment :
"It is working not perfectly but just.... so it is fine."
That is your attitude and it is lol, really.
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I pretty much echo JohnnieDarko's sentiment, followed those four steps (but only installing vanilla CM7 7.2 RC2) and my phone felt like it was a totally different thing. Heck I didn't even match my RIL yet (725 BB but on the 4xx RIL or some stupid thing).
If you're so fed up with this, why even bother posting in the forum anymore? Just move on...
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What do mean by that? do you test out the basebands or are you just trash talking about stuff you know nothing about?
Video is not the only problem for these "kangs"
Lets see... this forum is basicly dead, what i mean is that alot of people already left, and you guys that are left are talking nice and backing up the devs, when they work is not really all that good and most of the time the so called "fixes" dont fix anything.
All cause you are scarred they might leave or get a better phone.
And btw why use 218 ril as standard for CM roms when i and others get data loss and most of the time no signal at all, when using old basebands and they obsolete ril's.
I mean come on guys so many basebands with unstable data connection and you guys say it is working? i have to lol at you guys, it is the same in the goverment :
"It is working not perfectly but just.... so it is fine."
That is your attitude and it is lol, really.
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I have non of your problems. Data connections are stable, with CM9 as well as CM7. No idea what you did with your phone(s). You either live in deepest Tadjikistan and it's simply your network that fails ... or you should reconcider this awful habbit of making your phones swim in your garden pond. It WILL damage the hardware.
As I said: Video is a problem still with CM9. That's it.
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I use NOVA HD rom but it bugs a lot and updates a lot but it is pretty cool and I like it.