Well, I'm an x8 user, I'm gonna change the phone in some months and wanna ask if i really should buy this device
I know too much about roms cuz well I'm developing one
I wanna ask you guys, should i use it in stock and then wait for official ics or stock roms suck?
Does this phone really need all the stuff to work smooth? I mean custom kernel, rom etc because well its dualcore phone and looks that in some post i read, my phone works better
Thanks
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It's an awesome phone with cm7
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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But an official update to ics wont be enough? cuz i guess LG will fix lots of things in ics
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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leroy_coco said:
Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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So, theres a way ti change that bloatware?
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Sorry But i dont know what bloatware mean
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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Who needs that anyways?
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Who needs that anyways?
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Me, camera: i need an HD camera because i don't have one
HDMI: i have an LCD and i wanna get the best experience in gaming, movies etc
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I have lots if things to learn, but this is a good start
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For me, this phone is best in its class and value-for-money phone.
I only have 1 complain, The battery.
But once you get an extended battery, this phone is perfect.
But once you get an extended battery
What you mean?
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There are batteries you can buy with more capacity than the stock battery that comes with the phone.
However, I can easily get two day battery life with the stock battery, so personally I don't understand why so many people complain about their battery life. As far as I know it's about the same as other smart phones.
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Been looking around and asking around a lot and most people say that and odexed ota rom (with oc) is fastest. What do you think?
I use kgp nexroid 6.1 oc 1190mhz and that's fast as hell, imho.
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Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
Yeah, but isn't ch33kybutts OxygeN1mod a bit more stable and faster, being essentially the same as CM7? I know its AOSP, but a lot of CM7 things are integrated in that ROM. You should consider trying that out.
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Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
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I didn't even want this phone that much. I simply bought it as I couldn't afford anything better. This does the job well, though I would not say no to a newer and better device.
The other day, I flashed MIUI, and I have made a decision. I will never return to Cyanogenmod 7 again, ever. I simply love the fastness and smoothness of the latest MIUI. Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.
ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.
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ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.
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Your point being?
I won't go to a stock rom as I find custom roms the way to go. I run MIUI and I love it very much. A beautiful and fast rom (I use the fresh on fridays MIUI on miui.us and not that other one)
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Your point being?
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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.
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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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I don't even know what difference odexed and not does as I don't even know the meaning of the word. Secondly, my phone was sent to me pre-flashed with CM7.1.0 stable so I have never used stock software with this phone
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.
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I think you're right. I've seen videos of what ICS looks like and to me it looks like it's way overhyped. I really like MIUI and what it looks and feels like and to me it's fast and does what I want and gets me through a day's use with the current overclock.
I just want a rom that I can live with, that's fast and smooth. To this date, I haven't found a rom to do just that except MIUI.
Hey guys,
I am now the owner of an Samsung Galaxy Note. I was wondering... is it worth it to root my phone in order to flash a custom rom? I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
ROMs have their pluses and minuses. Freedom is what it's all about.
From all I gather, the current process available means that it is complete reversible. Devices can be unrooted and restored to normal condition.
Suppose it's a personal call. I like to play, so I'm rooting mine right now
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
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So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
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Then this isn't for you. The whole point is customizations that may not be available otherwise, and in some cases an overall better rom (subjective). I personally like having that option, though I won't bother since like you said ice cream will come soon
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Hey guys,
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
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I use a ROM because it runs faster/smoother, gets rid of stuff I don't want, and they can be easily modded further via themes and etc.
That said, the Note runs pretty well even stock. It's crazy smooth with the latest Cassy ROM but I'd assume that stock XLA3 runs well too. I'd suggest looking through ROM threads (you generally really only need to look at the first two posts), and see if there's anything you see that you like.
If nothing interests you, then don't bother. If so..... go get it.
Stock firmware, rooted is probably good enough for most people.
- Frank
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I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
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Is it ? Any sources on that ?
Anyway, I love custom ROM's (Coming from a HD2 ), but so far, i've only rooted the stock ROM. I was going to wait for ICS as I couldn't see any benefit to me on a custom one. Plus, i've only had the Note for a day now, so wanted to wait atleast a couple of days before I started to flash new ROM's if I was going to.
I'm the same as you, I don't play games or anything. Just the basics like email, widgets etc etc.
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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Yes ics is comming but you cant exactly tell when so why wait for ics if you can have a better/faster and smoother Rom right now?!
They definitely do! It always depends what rom you are using but rocket rom for example has a smoothness fix in it and yes it is fckin smooth
Cant complain about my bettery life cant say if its true but in my opinion i have better battery life than before with rocketrom v17 and abysskernel 3.1
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I believe fast or slow Roms is gauged on the way the ui frame rate and "rubber band" respond method used in the ipad2. I can really get pissed off totally at how touchwiz behaves to the touch, no matter how you tweak it, the chezzy frame rate sucks. whereas cm9 mod 4.03 gives me the ipad2 feeling of a screamingly fast UI. Samsung! You better not screw up the ICS port you are working on for the note.
I better bet for cm9 to do better.
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Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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There are lots of methods of speeding things up - shortening needless delays, removing things you don't need that consume RAM/CPU, removing logging that you don't need, etc. Some methods are safer than others. And optimizing for certain things may mean other things run slower. It all depends.
The same can be said for battery life.
I'd say that overall ROMS certainly run better than stock. You'll see yourself running kernel XXXX, and some people with ROMS on XXXX proclaiming great performance that you aren't seeing.
I'd disagree that there is an overall 'Best ROM'. There is, perhaps, a 'Best ROM' for YOU. In a dream world, the best ROM sacrifices everything you don't use, for stuff that you do use.
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Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
Qvp said:
In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
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Fine. Message from Samsung saying that ICS for the Note WILL arrive in Q1 of 2012.
I moved back to the stock ROM
Being on 2 different ROMs, rocket rom v18 included. I've seen bugs and lags.
I'm rooted and have a kernel that let's me overclock to 1.6mhz. But ROM is stock
Just my 2 cents. Wait for the ICS
I do regret going past the KL3 threshold with an OTA update without rooting. Now I have to downgrade from KL7 to KK9 get root, if for no other reason than to use the AdFree app.
I will probably go ahead and trouble myself with it before another OTA pops up for the German debitel note since I am uncertain of what will happen once ICS does show up and I would rather be ready to go with mobile odin just in case.
Has anyone found a kernel/rom which uses an AOSP bluetooth stack?
This would fix audio quality issues with bluetooth A2DP
coming froma hd2 and many custom roms i have now settled on a stock room, rooted it and removed anything i dont need using root explorer and changed the launcher to go launcher
given the apps ripped out and change of launcher along with framework mods, its fast enough for my likings
Better battery(most improtant for me ), better performance and more eye candy. Try rocket 18 with speedmod 3, i lost 5% in 22 hrs.
Just to make things easy for the layman.
1) Stock TouchWizz v4 (2.3.6) = 75/100
2) VillianMOD (2.3.6) = 77/100
3) Pure Google (2.3.7) = 70/100
4) CM7.1 (2.3.7) = 85/100
5) MIUI v2.113 (2.3.7) = 89/100
6) Pure Google (4.0.1)= 90/100
7) Stock TouchWizz v4 (4.0.1) = ???
8) CM9 (4.0.1) = ???
9) MIUI v4 (4.0.1) = ???
As you can see, its not worth updating now, unless there's a function you really really want.
Wait for a stable CMod or MIUI ROM if you want to "upgrade".
P.S.
Blur (50), Sense (58), TimeScape (63), StageUI (65), iOS (80)
Maemo5 (pr1.2) = 100/99!!!
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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So true. That's exactly why i want Samsung to "limit" the amount of times i flash my phone vs limitless installs of cROMs
By the way, the only way to find out what the best cROM is, would be to use it for a while. Due to the fact that there are so many options, i think i'd stick to the official one.
I have an unlocked gNote so it may be different for those that have a carrier issued one and have bloatware on the device.
By the way, reading through hundreds of pages of ppl talking about a specific ROM will only make you more confusing
Hi guys, I'm definitely thinking about buying an LG Optimus 2X, because over here in NZ it is by far the cheapest dual core phone, yet is similar/on par with many of the latest phones.
Before I decide to buy it however, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clear things up.
- Based on many reviews, the UI seems occasionally choppy, and I've also heard that many users aren't happy with a large number of bugs and crashes. Is this fixed when the phone is updated from froyo to gingerbread? Ice cream sandwich is also officially coming for the 2X which sounds promising.
- Is the battery life acceptable? Spec sheets say it runs on a 1500 mAh battery which sounds, theoretically, quite awful :/ I'd like to know if you get used to it or not. I'm not a huge traveler, so I'd use it at home most of the time, occasionally when going out.
- Design-wise, the camera protrudes slightly on the back. I'm worried that this might make the lens more susceptible to damage and cracks. Has this affected anyone?
I'd really appreciate answers for these questions. Thanks a lot.
Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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What protection is that..?
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What protection is that..?
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Even when you remove the back cover the camera still has the lens (just like any normal compact camera), The back cover is actually only there to prevent the lens from getting dirty, I believe, and it's easy to clean (every time I take a picture I clean the back cover with my shirt and the results are pretty good )
Now, regarding the OP, I bought it and I don't regret my purchase not one bit. It's true a lot of people complain about bugs and crashes but my experience even with the stock Froyo ROM was actually good. And when I flashed a custom ROM what was already good just got great.
So yeah, I would say there's nothing out there that beats the price/quality on the O2X.
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Uhuh, that's true. The lens has its own piece of glass in front of it which protects it. The extra piece of glass from the backcover is just to make sure that the lens doesn't get dirty. In my case, this extra glass remains dirty even if I try to clean it. Therefore I decided to cut it out...
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Hi!
1. The stock ui can be choppy because of the crappy software that comes on your phone. This is because the stock LG rom kind of sucks and is really slow. This problem persists on both Froyo and Gingerbread I believe. Therefore my advice is to root your phone and flash a custom rom on it. This will make your phone a lot smoother and better. Also, I wouldn't wait for the official ICS update. Knowing LG, this might take some time, just like when they released Gingerbread. They said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they would release it somewhere in 2013...
Anyway, CM9 is available to us, and this is ICS, although not stock. You can find a couple of CM9 (and CM7) roms in the dev section.
2. The battery life is pretty good. But only when you use a good custom rom. I've heard many stories from people who got massive battery drains on stock unrooted phones. Sometimes they can't even last a day with normal usage! However, with my current combination. (signature ) I can last for about 2 days with moderate usage. (twitter, Facebook, 9gag, YouTube, XDA App, and about a hour gaming) So, yeah, again, root and flash your phone.
3. Don't worry about the camera. So far, I never heard a story of someone who cracked their lens. The camera quality on stock is actually quite good and on normal CM not really. But, by flashing camera mod you can really improve it and make it close to stock. Also, the piece of glass in front of the lens can be broken. Some users, like me, make better pictures without the back cover on. This is because the piece of glass in front of the lens can be quite dirty and full of fingerprints. That's why I decided to cut it out . Don't worry about the lens, it has its own protection too.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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NOT AT ALL
In CM, there has been ported a camera app(stock LG) due to which it is just good
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Thanks a lot for that detail. I'd like to ask a couple more questions though
I can see that you're using CM7. I've thought about rooting the O2X if I ever got it, but I've heard that the camera and video recording is a bit screwed up if you root the O2x with CM. Is this true? If this is, there are many ways to fix it right?
Once again thanks. The main things I want to use a phone such as the 2X for is web browsing, gaming, mail on the go and cameras.
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I think you'll be more than happy with the O2X to do all of the above.
If you want to check picture quality you can check it here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150296662400657.555672.662115656&type=3&l=8675ea8903
The first four photos (take a look at the arc de la défense) were taken with it, I like it.
Thanks to everyone who's posted. I've just got one more question for people who have rooted their 2X. The web browsing seems quite laggy when using stock froyo (perhaps gingerbread?). When you root the phone, is this problem solved? Thanks.
Hi Beplexor!
When I'm surfing the web the only time I get a "laggy" experience is when the reception is not so great, like when I'm on the train or bus. If I'm at a fix position with HDSPA it surfs great. I haven't even felt the need to user another browser other than the stock one.
Really, there's nothing I can throw at this phone that it can't handle! I'm not the most demanding of users, but still, I find it great!
I'm glad everyone is so positive about this phone, but I am not.
It has lots of issues and glitches, and although tweaking, rooting and installing custrom roms is certainly nice, there is always this or that 'wrong' with it. It all depends on what you want.
If you like tweaking and messing around and don't mind some rough edges, then yes, it is a nice phone which works well.
If you want a phone that just works, then no, this phone is not a good idea.
Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all. And there are more people with this problem. The cell-radio keeps crashing. CM 7.1/7.2 does not have this problem, so I'm using this.
However, voice quality is poor, I have issues with Wifi not wanting to activate after 2-3 days and I need to reboot every 1-2 days anyway because of performance drops. After 48 hours it is impossible, for example, to watch a Youtube video, use Skype or play any game. After a reboot performance is great again.
So, it all depends on what you want with and expect from a phone. And of course how much money you're willing to spend and a whole lot of other factors
And as for the CM9 builds (ICS): the camera doesn't work properly and things like FM radio don't work (properly). Also, no HW acceleration so some newer ICS apps don't work either. So, I'm eagerly awaing the official LG ICS to see how that fares.
Bottom-line: I'm not saying the phone is bad for everyone or it's a piece of crap, I'm just saying that if it is important to you that the phone 'just works' and 'always works', then this phone is not a good idea.
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Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. Fact is, that I cannot use stock firmwares of Gingerbread properly at all.
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If your phone was crap with stock firmware I think you have a faulty equipment and should have asked for a replacement.
My phone worked great with stock and works excellent with custom.
No matter what brand you choose there will always be faulty equipment. Of course, some brands have tighter quality control then others, and that reflects on the price.
For the price of this phone it is normal to expect worse quality control, this just means the probability of getting a faulty equipment are higher, you just have to test it properly and send it back if it doesn't work.
Of course, if this is something you would rather pay more and not have to worry about this, I would advise against LG, but so far this is my second LG phone and I'm a happy customer!
Thanks for your reply. Based on my experiences with the device, I am pretty sure it's not faulty equipment.
The price of the phone was close to 500 euros when I got it, so the argument about the price doens'nt really hold, imho.
Let's just say there are people that are happy with it, and there are also a lot of people that are unhappy. Therefore, I personally cannot recommend this phone if you want one that always/just works.
We might have some semantics problems here.
In your original post you say "Stock firmware has major issues, dependant on some unknown variables - could be hardware revision, could be network, could be xxx.. "
When you say the hardware revision is a factor, for me hardware revisions are there because the older hardware had flaws. For me this qualifies as faulty equipment.
The "current" hardware revision, or at least the one I've got, worked fine out of the box. Maybe that's why you're not as happy a customer as I am, because you got a "hardware revision" from back when the price was still 500 eur. Now I can say it's much better, I've had no issues so far at all.
Hi guys, I'm only 15 years old and any phone I buy will be bought using my own money earned from a part time job. I want a medium-high end phone, but it's my own money and I'm not willing to cash out heaps, therefore I think the O2X will be a great choice. I understand it's not the most stable phone out there, but the fact remains that it IS a very affordable dual core phone.
I know that you guys say root and flash the moment you get it, but like some people say in this thread, the phone doesn't seem to work to its full potential e.g absence of certain applications, shady camera etc. If I get the phone, it's highly likely that I'll just wait until stock ICS comes out, which isn't far away; LG promised it within Q2 of this year.
Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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Yeah, well I wouldn't wait for LG if I were you. It's more likely that they will release ICS during the 2nd quarter of 2013 than this year...
Also, the stock rom doesn't get the full potential out of the phone because the stock software is just really, really bad. The O2X has a great piece of hardware but this crappy stock rom makes the phone so ****ty...
The only way to get the full potential out of this device is to root and flash it with any custom rom and kernel. Trust me, you'll notice an enormous difference in speed, stability and smoothness.
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I'll definitely give that advice a chance...just wondering, if I were to root it, I'd just go into the Android Development section right? Could you please link me to clear tutorials on how to flash CM (such as the one you have right now) onto the O2X? Thanks.
I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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I think this should pretty much cover everything... :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/LG_Optimus_2X:_Full_Update_Guide
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for that! I've actually decided to get the O2X now, just ordered it! I have just been on the official cyanogenmod site and I've come across the mod for O2X. There is a list of of three downloads: Stable Mod, Experimental Mod and Nightly Builds. Which one is the version that you currently have?
Finally, I'd just like to clear things up fully. On the version that you have, what are the main issues (if they exist at all)? For me, cameras, gaming, web browsing and texting are a must; they all work fine right? I'd still like to be aware of any other bugs or non-fully functioning aspects of CM. Thanks!
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Uhmm... I use the Unofficial Build (KANG) from Temasek. Don't worry, it's still CM but then with some extra little goodies baked in (cherry-pickings). With other words, I use a CM7 version compiled by an user, Temasek, instead of a CM7 version compiled by the official CM bot. But if you want an official CM7, then you should use the latest Nightly Build, because they're far more stable than the 'Stable Mod', not to mention that nightlies are even better too. Actually, you can compare Temaseks Unofficial build with the latest nightly, I believe there's not much difference between them. Nevertheless, a lot of people like his Unofficial builds.
There are no issues for CM7 I believe. I'm using it for about four months now (actually three, I also played a month around with CM9 which is a little too buggy for me, but it was awesome anyway ) However you should keep in mind that the camera quality of CM7 is not so good, compared to the stock camera quality. This is because the camera needs special libs from the stock LG rom to work good and those libs don't work on CM7 for some reason. But, there's a solution to that! Go to Temaseks KANG thread (link in signature) and go the third post. There you'll find a whole lot of mods compiled by other users. Download and flash the camera mod by Kostja_V in CWM recovery. This improves the camera a lot.
Hope this helped!
Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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I prefer cm10linero optimized odex version with blood kernel and feel it is silky smooth. There is so many ROMs out that it is a candy store with something for every taste. 4.1.2 version is standards now with 4.2 in works. Bang for bucks this cell has been very good and beyond reliable to me.
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Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
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md1008 said:
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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smartguy044 said:
take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
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Pretty much what I was going to say right to the last word (except I haven't owned an S3).
I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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Lol yeah if I do sell my gs3 I am sure I will miss the 2gb of ram. I am stalking eBay for a damn good deal
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Just scored a new one from some guy in Hong Kong on Ebay...its was as described for $117 with fee shipping. Just took 2 Weeks to get here...love auction sniper.
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Can i flash this directly from stock gb?
THANK YOU!
No
1st get root
Get twrp or cwm installed
Rom wipe cwm or cache/dalvik cache/system wipe twrp
Now flash
Always make backup prior to above
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I've heard that CM10 can have trouble with 3rd party camera aps, such as bank check deposit etc. Anyone found that? If so what is the best option for that? I haven't flashed to JB yet mainly because I don't want to lose that checking account option.
That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Well if you had a nandroid of both, you could just restore either whenever you wanted to, provided that you make a nandroid every time you change something.
Hmmmm. Cumbersome just to have check deposit. I'll have to think on this for a while. I suppose it takes a few minutes each time: make nandroid in CM 10, flash CM 9, deposit check, flash CM 10 and do this for each check. I don't do checks very often so it may still be worthwhile.
Do you happen to know if this is an issue being addressed and just might be fixed for, say, a CM11 release?
Is it worth flashing a new ROM at the moment? I mean, the ROMs I've seen are incomplete and I read about a lot of problems? If its worth it, what is the best ROM out now and why?
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Chri$b0b2005 said:
Is it worth flashing a new ROM at the moment? I mean, the ROMs I've seen are incomplete and I read about a lot of problems? If its worth it, what is the best ROM out now and why?
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I don't really know about problems with arman68's infiniROM. It is smooth, fast and battery-life is much better than stock.
Not really "goodies" which can cause issues.
I use the AIO Mod v6, system-apps and debloater and i am satisfied
But, if it is worth is your decision
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I don't really know about problems with arman68's infiniROM. It is smooth, fast and battery-life is much better than stock.
Not really "goodies" which can cause issues.
I use the AIO Mod v6, system-apps and debloater and i am satisfied
But, if it is worth is your decision
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Ahhhh I kept hearing a lot about an Omar ROM? I don't know but I haven't heard of yours, is there a post? Link me maybe?
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I think Omar ROM is the best in the moment. Each 3 ~ 5 days there's a new build. That's good because you know that the no one quited the project of something like that, different from Pi-Llama that you never know the next update.
It has great battery life (2 days without charge it), smooth like hell and i'm without bugs at this moment. I'm using jully 4 build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174731&page=144
The best you've to do is make a clean install. Wype everything and format all your device, to then install it. Works like a charm. If you install build over build, you'll get lags soon or later.
I hope i helped you.
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I don't really know about problems with arman68's infiniROM. It is smooth, fast and battery-life is much better than stock.
Not really "goodies" which can cause issues.
I use the AIO Mod v6, system-apps and debloater and i am satisfied
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Same here, works without a flaw - butter-smooth and seriously great battery-life (~6h30m screen uptime, playing around with the phone like a little kid... still 28%).
To be honest, I didn't try Omar's - but arman68's infiniROM is just perfect.
Chri$b0b2005 said:
Ahhhh I kept hearing a lot about an Omar ROM? I don't know but I haven't heard of yours, is there a post? Link me maybe?
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This is the Link to infiniROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223482
sky0165 said:
I think Omar ROM is the best in the moment. Each 3 ~ 5 days there's a new build. That's good because you know that the no one quited the project of something like that, different from Pi-Llama that you never know the next update.
It has great battery life (2 days without charge it), smooth like hell and i'm without bugs at this moment. I'm using jully 4 build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174731&page=144
The best you've to do is make a clean install. Wype everything and format all your device, to then install it. Works like a charm. If you install build over build, you'll get lags soon or later.
I hope i helped you.
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I really thought about trying omars ROM but there are to much issues postet for me. I don't want to make a full wipe twice a week. I want to use my phone
But its a great work what omar is doing. omars kernel is integrated in armans ROM...
I think I'm really considering Omar's ROM it seems less hassle than infinirom even though the constant updates, but I think that if I just backup my apps in a zip or whatever I'll should be fine :3
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This is the Link to infiniROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223482
I really thought about trying omars ROM but there are to much issues postet for me. I don't want to make a full wipe twice a week. I want to use my phone
But its a great work what omar is doing. omars kernel is integrated in armans ROM...
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You don't need to make a fill wipe with each build. You can install it over the old. As I said, there will be an hour that you have to make a full wipe and a clean install, if not, you'll get lags.
I have personally tried both Omar's rom and Arman's infinirom, I don't really notice much of a difference between the two. Omar's rom has more goodies, but imo Arman's is better as a daily driver just because updates don't come out as often. They're both worth trying out. Regarding battery life, I haven't seen the remarkable battery life that everyone has with infinirom. At best, I usually end up with 3.5 hours screen time after two days of use. Omar's gives about the same battery life. Then again, cell signal in my area is average at best.
Oh and one last thing, is you want to use some mods in the forum like shaftenberg's music controls, use Omar's as it's deodexed. Hope you like whichever one you go with, they're both better than stock!
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Chri$b0b2005 said:
Is it worth flashing a new ROM at the moment? I mean, the ROMs I've seen are incomplete and I read about a lot of problems? If its worth it, what is the best ROM out now and why?
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Omar-Avelar's ROM totally worth it. It seems to be the most actively developed and people are liking it.
I came from Moto Defy and Defy+, I was used to CM10 (the best d* ROM ever) and Omar-Avelar is the closest for XT890 I've used so far.
=D
Have a nice day
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I have personally tried both Omar's rom and Arman's infinirom, I don't really notice much of a difference between the two.
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I think that's the point.
With every respect to any developer here, but we are still on stock ROMs. Omar did some great changes to the kernel, but most of the work are mods, deleted system apps and so on. Tweaks here and there, but not every tweak is for anyone.
Take automatic brightness for example: arman68 tweaked this so much, you can get outstanding battery life with it - if you use it.
Personally I prefer *my* settings, which are 40% brightness indoors, 100% outdoors, that's it. AMOLED lives with its colors, why darken it to get some hours more in standby?
Every user will tell you other opinions, some need extra fps for gaming, some want to swap SD card, some other need very dark screens for reading at night. It depends what you want.
Summary for me: I stay on stock, deodexed it, disabled some Motorola stuff I don't need manually, disable Google Now(!), put some mods in it for my likings and a happy face and I'm fine with it. In general I got same battery life, because the largest battery hog is the display.
You might want to test Omar's kernel for stock ROM, think, that's the greatest deal - but have in mind that you might not see or "feel" the difference.
I second that! Omar's is the best so far, but make sure you do regular nandroid backups.
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I think that's the point.
With every respect to any developer here, but we are still on stock ROMs. Omar did some great changes to the kernel, but most of the work are mods, deleted system apps and so on. Tweaks here and there, but not every tweak is for anyone.
Take automatic brightness for example: arman68 tweaked this so much, you can get outstanding battery life with it - if you use it.
Personally I prefer *my* settings, which are 40% brightness indoors, 100% outdoors, that's it. AMOLED lives with its colors, why darken it to get some hours more in standby?
Every user will tell you other opinions, some need extra fps for gaming, some want to swap SD card, some other need very dark screens for reading at night. It depends what you want.
Summary for me: I stay on stock, deodexed it, disabled some Motorola stuff I don't need manually, disable Google Now(!), put some mods in it for my likings and a happy face and I'm fine with it. In general I got same battery life, because the largest battery hog is the display.
You might want to test Omar's kernel for stock ROM, think, that's the greatest deal - but have in mind that you might not see or "feel" the difference.
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Thank guys, I appreciate the help, I tried both but settled with Omar's, did some streamlining of that myself and set it on interactive x with sio I love it
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