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Hello

Well, I'm an x8 user, I'm gonna change the phone in some months and wanna ask if i really should buy this device
I know too much about roms cuz well I'm developing one
I wanna ask you guys, should i use it in stock and then wait for official ics or stock roms suck?
Does this phone really need all the stuff to work smooth? I mean custom kernel, rom etc because well its dualcore phone and looks that in some post i read, my phone works better
Thanks
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It's an awesome phone with cm7

well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean

pidocchio said:
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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But an official update to ics wont be enough? cuz i guess LG will fix lots of things in ics
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.

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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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leroy_coco said:
Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.

LarsPT said:
I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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So, theres a way ti change that bloatware?
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Sorry But i dont know what bloatware mean
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.

LarsPT said:
My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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leroy_coco said:
Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .

SP1996AC said:
Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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Who needs that anyways?

HerrKuk said:
Who needs that anyways?
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Me, camera: i need an HD camera because i don't have one
HDMI: i have an LCD and i wanna get the best experience in gaming, movies etc
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock

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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I have lots if things to learn, but this is a good start
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For me, this phone is best in its class and value-for-money phone.
I only have 1 complain, The battery.
But once you get an extended battery, this phone is perfect.

But once you get an extended battery
What you mean?
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There are batteries you can buy with more capacity than the stock battery that comes with the phone.
However, I can easily get two day battery life with the stock battery, so personally I don't understand why so many people complain about their battery life. As far as I know it's about the same as other smart phones.

[Q] Is there non lagging JB rom?

Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.

notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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Hi notmevlak!
Yes i totally agree, the Galaxy S is still a very attractive phone and is imo still better than most budget phones in the same price range. I have been running many different roms i all generations (gb, ics and currently jb) and I have to say that JB is amazing on the galaxy S. Iam currently running a stock rom ported from the Galaxy nexus with a galaxy s3 theme (Launcher and everything) and It's silky smooth! Almost no lags at all if youre thinking about the UI.
You can find that rom on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1902777
The best way to find a rom that suits your needs is to try them all. I see myself as a real flasholic hehe, it's like youre getting a new phone each time
Good luck! And if youre wondering about anything else, feel free to ask!
//A former xda lurker
Good luck

Have u tried c-rom jelly bean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820578
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In short, no. There is not a single rom out there that won't lag at all. Apps are getting more and more cpu intensive as hardware specs improve. Even low grade androids now have duo core cpus.
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try tsunami aokp..u will not regret
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snapper.fishes said:
In short, no. There is not a single rom out there that won't lag at all. Apps are getting more and more cpu intensive as hardware specs improve. Even low grade androids now have duo core cpus.
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I thought 1ghz single core is enough, i don't really play any games or use any hardcore intensive apps. Thats why I wanna cheap phone, but I hate ICS/GB androids lagging. Is rly every jb rom lagging? I think I should go for some cheap wp7.5 phone then

What does lag mean to you?
notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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I guess part of the answer is related to how you define 'lag'...
I have been running CM10 for about a month or so and been really impressed with how fast my GalaxyS runs on Jelly Bean. I haven't tried some of the other roms because CM10 does everything I need really well. I am coming from the earlier GB 2.3.3 version and for me, JB is way faster on this phone. From my experience, similar to many other posts I have read, installing JB was like getting a new phone.
In reality, some apps take a a few seconds to load and you can tell when a given app is taxing the system but to me this is acceptable knowing we only have a single core processor and 512 Mb. I can listen to any song, watch any youtube video and play most games and apps I have tried. It's not perfection and certainly a dual core or quad core rig with 2 gig of memory would be better but you won't get anything like that for $100 or less.
I would never consider a win phone simply because it would be pretty much a dead end for apps...while this phone can still run any app I have tried short of the super intensive games that need a tegra or something...
Will I get a new phone when my contract is up? Sure, if its free. Will this phone do me for another year until then? I'm pretty sure it will...
FYI: CM10 just updated to JB 4.1.2 last night...only a day after it was released for the Nexus 7.
My 2 cents...

Try codename-3.6.5 finally
Mix from Aokp ROM & Aosp ROM
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1902777

C-RoM BeaN with Semaphore JB kernel and V6 Supercharger script. Superfast!

notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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atm i have the galaxy s, had it since it came out and haven't upgraded since (either didn't feel the need to or too financially challenged lol).
Anyhow, I was on GB roms for ages but changed to JB ones (skipped ICS altogether), and i gotta say the SGS does a fine job running JB. If you're worried about lag and battery problems, I can safely say that the phone handle JB beautifully. You'll probably need to charge the phone at the end of every day but there's not worries about lag or any other issues. Battery drain was my main concerning but I've figured out that you can get the phone lasting off one charge if you turn off wifi and 3G when you aren't using the internet. You won't be able to play games on it for hours but i barely use the phone for games since im bored of them all.

One Year Old, and better than New

Got my Exhibit 4G back when it was called something else at WalMart. Ran it the first two months on T-mobile with the stock rom and it was "eh", but the monthly cost was cheap and as long as I stuck to mainly text messages the phone was passable.
Now a year later I am on CM10 - which means the almost latest ROM on a phone that cost under $200. It runs faster and lasts longer on a charge than when I first got it - though partly that's because I now cheat and turn off the 3G/4G radio to use it only via WiFi. Still with Skype service I've had folks ask if I was borrowing my daughter's iPhone or my wife's Nokia - sound is pretty darn good.
So if you're looking for a good budget phone with a very active user community, you've found the right place!

I got mine about eight months ago on Family Mobile (I work at Walmart so I pay 30 bucks for unlimited everything) performance was good compared to my previous phone but not flyin. Now its basically a galaxy s2 with a smaller screen maybe even quicker
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jaysonr35gtr said:
I got mine about eight months ago on Family Mobile (I work at Walmart so I pay 30 bucks for unlimited everything) performance was good compared to my previous phone but not flyin. Now its basically a galaxy s2 with a smaller screen maybe even quicker
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I got mine the first time it came out, last christmas.

what ROM and or setting like swap are you guys runnin...
Every time I oc I have probs, without oc lag is present...
No matter what I run out of ram....
I really want to like this phone but even with clean install n setup after an hr or two it makes evo shift 4g seem high end...
I know this is a budget device but we shld get similar results to other budget devices
I have a class 10 sandisk 16gb to use for swap but if anything it seems swap hurts the device
Any help or input tia

I am running camcory's slim bean rom with smartguy's 1.4 kernel oc'd to 1.6, 368 min, with smartassv2 governor. It runs super smooth and I have no complaints. Battery life is nice too and it seems really stable. I highly recommend you try slim bean rom and smartguy's kernel. Makes this phone a pleasure to use.

After a 100+ flashes this phone still works as good as the day i got it. An the color still looks good too unlike my other phones where it gets wore off on the corners. It has some minor scratches but dont use a case or screen protector. It has been by far the best phone i have ever owned. Most fun too thanks in large part to the devs.

NomadSpin said:
After a 100+ flashes this phone still works as good as the day i got it. An the color still looks good too unlike my other phones where it gets wore off on the corners. It has some minor scratches but dont use a case or screen protector. It has been by far the best phone i have ever owned. Most fun too thanks in large part to the devs.
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Despite the ghosting thing that happens, the screen on the Galaxy Exhibit is really quite nice. I'm always impressed, and even a couple co-workers with an S3 and Note II have commented on how vibrant and crisp/clear the screen is.
This is only my 2nd Android. My first was the Optimus V and I cut my romming/rooting teeth on that thing. I haven't hit 100 flashes quite yet on the Exhibit, but I'm getting close!
The biggest thing that made the Optimus V such a fantastic little phone was the development community. When I bought the Galaxy Exhibit, I wasn't yet aware how great the development community was becoming. I had no idea I'd be running a smooth-ass port of Jellybean so soon. I have the same feeling about the Exhibit as I did for the Optimus V.
It's nice when a boom in development affords you the opportunity to feel like you have a new phone (sometimes many times over), when in fact it's the same piece of hardware you've had tucked away in your pocket for months, or even more a year in some people's case.
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minlo said:
what ROM and or setting like swap are you guys runnin...
Every time I oc I have probs, without oc lag is present...
No matter what I run out of ram....
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Since running SlimBean, I no longer overclock. I have the regular Camcory CM10 kernel that comes with it. It's very fast, and I always have more than 100MB of free RAM (this will of course vary on your personal apps).
But it's really so quick and smooth at stock speed, I feel no need to mess with overclocking. I've tried the OC'd kernel with CM10. On CM10, it made a big difference in eliminating a lot of the lag. On SlimBean, I don't really feel or see a difference. Honestly. I realized the slickness I was experiencing with SlimBean and the OC kernel was placebo, when I reflashed SlimBean without the OC kernel and it was just as quick and slick.

there is no placebo effect when you flash my kernel haha just playing but slim is fast with an oc kernel

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there is no placebo effect when you flash my kernel haha just playing but slim is fast with an oc kernel
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Sorry man! Should have worded that one better. Don't want anyone to think your kernel doesn't do anything. lol. Cause it certainly does. When I was running CM10, along with a lot more apps, Speedy Gonzalez certainly made a significant difference. Since I've been running Slimbean, I've purposely kept things slim across the board. Minimal apps, and using stock stuff that I used to replace (keyboard, browser, etc).
When you keep it slim, Slimbean flies with it's stock kernel. So for ME, it was placebo, but only in that slimmed down Slimbean configuration. I'm started to add a few more apps now and I'm already feeling the sluggishness creep in, and I'm almost ready to flash Speedy Gonzalez again!

haha its cool man i didnt take it wrong i was just messing with you....you are right tho with some roms its not needed but its great to have....slim is well slim so its blazing fast any way same with the rom im working on its fast to out of the box

This topic is nice, but I have no clue what some of these stuff mean.
Only thing I even considered doing was to root the stock rom, then flash it to peach sunshine via cwm 6.x
Does this topic mean that doing above will not help much and it will still be laggy? What are some of the things you guys mentioned like overclocked kernel (can it run with any rom, how can I install one? Or can I install one on top of stock rooter rom?)
Like "Smartguy's 1.4 Kernel", "Overclocked to 1.6" "368 Min", "Smartassv2 Governor"
Is it that SG's 1.4 kernel allows overclocking or can you overclock stock kernel?
What is the stock processor setting does it actually go below 368? And of course what is Smartassv2 Governer?
Sorry if I asked too many questions, but I just got this phone for my wife and even though she doesn't seem to complain, I can see that the phone gets laggy once you have two or three apps running (and I try to have her keep Skype or IM+ running all the time so we can chat, we don't have texting plan)
Any input/guidance will be very appreciated.
Thanks guys.

The sg kernel is for cm9 cm10 slimbean and so on. As basic rule has to be CM9/CM10 based rom. If using a stock based rom such as peach you won't be able to overclock. Icecream and jellybean Roms are all pretty decent with multi tasking and don't really need overclocking. Smoothass is the governed to use as smartass v2 has been k own to cause probs
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very nice phone
I have this phone almost a month, and is great phone, its running REMICS, its very fast and smooth, i recomend 100%.:good:

MIUI
minlo said:
what ROM and or setting like swap are you guys runnin...
Every time I oc I have probs, without oc lag is present...
No matter what I run out of ram....
I really want to like this phone but even with clean install n setup after an hr or two it makes evo shift 4g seem high end...
I know this is a budget device but we shld get similar results to other budget devices
I have a class 10 sandisk 16gb to use for swap but if anything it seems swap hurts the device
Any help or input tia
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I am running MIUI ICS with Doadin's Custom 2.6.35 Kernel and it flies! (as much as a device with 384MB of ram can fly) buttery transitions, sleek sexy interface, definitely a must-try for our device.

Him
where do i found the latest ROM for my Exhibit 4G ?? Thanks
EwanG said:
Got my Exhibit 4G back when it was called something else at WalMart. Ran it the first two months on T-mobile with the stock rom and it was "eh", but the monthly cost was cheap and as long as I stuck to mainly text messages the phone was passable.
Now a year later I am on CM10 - which means the almost latest ROM on a phone that cost under $200. It runs faster and lasts longer on a charge than when I first got it - though partly that's because I now cheat and turn off the 3G/4G radio to use it only via WiFi. Still with Skype service I've had folks ask if I was borrowing my daughter's iPhone or my wife's Nokia - sound is pretty darn good.
So if you're looking for a good budget phone with a very active user community, you've found the right place!
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eduardo santiago said:
where do i found the latest ROM for my Exhibit 4G ?? Thanks
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I think you'll want to check out this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2030

Awaiting My Nexus 7, need some input

I was so excited to get my Nexus 7 a day early. It came today and I immediately started setting it up. Shortly after turning it on, the screen would do things on its own or just not respond to my touches. It did sometimes. Very disappointed. So RMA'd it and awaiting my replacement. (Anyone else hear of this?)
Anywho, while I'm waiting, time to get a plan. I have already downloaded the Nexus 7 Toolkit and plan to use that to get me rooted and a recovery. (Is this the most common method for N7 users?) Also, any input on a recovery? I've been using CWM since I started using Android, but it seems TWRP is getting a lot of attention.
Lastly, the dreaded ROM question. I currently run CM10 M2 on my Nexus S 4G and... eh. CM9 ran great, but been having alot of reboots and freezes on M2. I know it's not stable so I don't hold it against them.
What's everyone's favorite on the Nexus 7?
Things I look for in a ROM, stability and nice tweakable features. I don't OC, never will. I was eyeing up Paranoid Android, but not sure how stable it is. CM10 worries me only because of my experience with my phone so far, but I love CM based ROMs. I've never had much luck with AOKP. Am I missing any big names or great ROMs that I should consider besides Paranoid, CM10, or AOKP?
Thanks in advance.

Best ROM threads suck, even more when they are polls.

You know, its people like you that give xda a bad rep for being arrogant and unhelpful. This isn't a "best ROM" thread. I'm basically asking peoples opinions and experiences ofthe ROMs I listed and maybe some ROMs that are hidden gems .

when my N7 comes; first thing going on it is Paranoid.
no doubt.

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when my N7 comes; first thing going on it is Paranoid.
no doubt.
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Awesome, see that's the input I'm looking for. Why though? What's catching your eye? I seen on their thread that Paranoid isn't the most stable ROM, I wonder the reason for that. Only issues I've read about is people changing their DPI to something the N7 can't handle. What about recovery? CWM or TWRP?

Just my opinion but just try stock for a while. We already have the most up to date technology so why overclock? All games run well except Gameloft games and that's because they don't optimize for tegra processors. I don't change ROMs until the company stops supporting the newest updates.
P.S. there's always one in every crowd

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Just my opinion but just try stock for a while. We already have the most up to date technology so why overclock? All games run well except Gameloft games and that's because they don't optimize for tegra processors. I don't change ROMs until the company stops supporting the newest updates.
P.S. there's always one in every crowd
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Yeah. He's right... I'll get my 32GB N7 today, and the first thing I planned is not to root it... First of all to wait if some of those damage problems arrive (I'm lazy so I don't want to unroot when something's wrong..)... And I'm very happy with stock... Android really grows... And I taught myself to live with the quick settings... So, I see no need. I don't really need colored stuff, or idk.
I recommend you to just use stock for a while and when you don't like it, you can still root it ^^ idk how it arrives (locked or unlocked) but you may want to unlock the bootloader first, before really setting it up. So when you going to root it, you won't lose data ^^
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Yea, that was another idea. If I stay stock, I'll root it then stay stock. Get a feel for the tablet ways before deciding to go with a custom ROM, which looks like is gonna be paranoid so far... but yea, like I said, def no over clocking. That quad core the n7 is packing will be sweet enough. Any recs on which recovery? Are there any big differences that might sway my decision to one?

personally im going to go TWRP on my nexus 7. my SGS3 has it; its an evolution of CWM imho

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You know, its people like you that give xda a bad rep for being arrogant and unhelpful. This isn't a "best ROM" thread. I'm basically asking peoples opinions and experiences ofthe ROMs I listed and maybe some ROMs that are hidden gems .
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I've been enjoying my time on the linaro builds of aokp. Nice and snappy, the best kernel I've used to far has to be Trinity IMO, you can tweak CPU and GPU settings. I just wish it would run in tablet mode, still waiting on a patch for 4.2. As for recovery I've always been a cwm man but recently switched to Twrp, it has a nice interface and lots of options. Oh and BTW the nexus 7 toolkit is AWESOME, within 30 minutes of unpacking my N7 I had it unlocked, rooted, recovery, and super usered. And it does this with one click, you sit back and it does the rest.....that is after you make it install the adb drivers for you.
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I like that twrp is all touch. Any other big advantages? As far as CPU and GPU settings, meh... lol that and I would like something running 4.2 and something that isn't gonna seem like I'm using a 7" phone lol

Just got an n4

Hey guys just got an n4, I'm spending sometime going through the n4 forums and seeing what everyone has to say. Its good to be working with a much larger community than the s2 had. Having more options for roms feels great. I was a little gun shy about flashing a new recovery to my n4 but I took the plunge. I gotta say it was rather easy and not at all like I expected. I'm sure that the community has had lots of time to streamline things though.
Just to say what happen to my s2. I was flashing twrp in which I had downloaded from goo manager. I rebooted the phone and that was the last time I had saw any life from it. It previously had been having a hard time using any other kernel than the one that came with the rom. I tried everything I possibly could and still had no luck. Being Dependant on my phone I had to get another. Originally I had decided on the nexus 4 because of current price down at tmobile. Then i decided I was going to sell something of mine to cover it and i would get whatever I wanted. I had been wanting a s3 and was all set on that. keep in mind this wasnt a planned buy so me getting an htc one was out of the question. I played with a demo s3 and experience a little bit of lag. That same little bit of lag that I ignored when I bought the s2. Then I played with the n4 and experience non. I was sold and at a much lower down.needless to say I was impressed. So here I sit with my new n4 rooted and rocking a custom rom and Im enjoying the out right smoothness of it all.
Just thought id share my story of how I ended up here.

Welcome to the club!
The N4 is an awesome device that's for sure!
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Beware if u r a crack flasher. I haven't been able to be on one ROM for more then three days.
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Welcome, just got mine a week ago. Supah smooth device
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Blows the Galaxy S4 away in speed and smoothness, i had a S4 for a week and i`am glad to be back to the N4

gee2012 said:
Blows the Galaxy S4 away in speed and smoothness, i had a S4 for a week and i`am glad to be back to the N4
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Are you serious. I didnt even consider the s4 I wasnt willing to pay for a phone I didnt feel was worth the upgrade. When I originally tested out the s3 I was in love. I gotta say though Im super impressed with this phone. A buddy of mine at work says "you got and older phone" Im like dude this thing rocks!
Does it have rom rot. Thats my only question. My s2 was never completely smooth but over time it would just bog out.

hazard99 said:
Are you serious. I didnt even consider the s4 I wasnt willing to pay for a phone I didnt feel was worth the upgrade. When I originally tested out the s3 I was in love. I gotta say though Im super impressed with this phone. A buddy of mine at work says "you got and older phone" Im like dude this thing rocks!
Does it have rom rot. Thats my only question. My s2 was never completely smooth but over time it would just bog out.
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The S4 is a rush job, the software is pure crap and needs at least 2 to 3 updates to run as it should. Samsung realy dropped the ball on the S4 imo.
The S3 is much smoother and faster than the S4 though the hardware is less powerfull. The S4 does have a very good camera, great speaker and a very good 1080p screen.

gee2012 said:
The S4 is a rush job, the software is pure crap and needs at least 2 to 3 updates to run as it should. Samsung realy dropped the ball on the S4 imo.
The S3 is much smoother and faster than the S4 though the hardware is less powerfull. The S4 does have a very good camera, great speaker and a very good 1080p screen.
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I'm seriously tired of getting short changed with cpu's on tmobiles network. Why should we be getting the later version I mean who makes theses choices. I work with a bunch of phone junkies at work and we all talked it out. We saw no visable reason to buy the s4 over the s3.
Btw.... how is that franco kernel I have faux123's flashed right now. Any benefits you could point out since you are here?

hazard99 said:
I'm seriously tired of getting short changed with cpu's on tmobiles network. Why should we be getting the later version I mean who makes theses choices. I work with a bunch of phone junkies at work and we all talked it out. We saw no visable reason to buy the s4 over the s3.
Btw.... how is that franco kernel I have faux123's flashed right now. Any benefits you could point out since you are here?
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I haven`t flashed Faux`s kernel myself yet, i`am a long time Franco user and very happy with the kernel on th N4 in every aspect as batterylife, performance, color and sound control.

toanau said:
Beware if u r a crack flasher. I haven't been able to be on one ROM for more then three days.
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+1, thought I found a rom that I liked. So many options, hard to stick to one rom.
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nice. I got mt N4 2 days ago and i'm loving it. Running CyanogenMod 10.1 RC2 and franco kernel on mines. Replaced my old S3

Newbie here, got my N4 about three months ago, a shift from my older BlackBerry. Just recently rooted it and flashed franco kernel for better battery life... I'm currently eyeing Paranoid Android and will use it once a stable build with halo is released.
I have a question here, can I OTA my N4 while being rooted and with franco kernel or do I have to un-root my device? Thanks.

Chris_n00bz said:
Newbie here, got my N4 about three months ago, a shift from my older BlackBerry. Just recently rooted it and flashed franco kernel for better battery life... I'm currently eyeing Paranoid Android and will use it once a stable build with halo is released.
I have a question here, can I OTA my N4 while being rooted and with franco kernel or do I have to un-root my device? Thanks.
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No, you have to be stock kernel and ROM there is plenty of guides on how to use ota with a rooted phone.
Carbonized and francofied N4

Thanks. Well, I think I will wait for the official announcement of 4.3 or 5.0 before flashing the custom ROM. Too bad since PA with Halo is very tempting...lol
Cuzz1369 said:
No, you have to be stock kernel and ROM there is plenty of guides on how to use ota with a rooted phone.
Carbonized and francofied N4
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I rmember my htc desire hd it was the most painful phone to unlock/root

Just flash franco for better screen, better battery life and smoothness

You should install a terminal and check how your CPU was binned. Seeing you just recently got it you'll notice that the back heats up quite a lot. That's normal. But you can definitely check the CPU binning and UV and it helps with the heat. It did for me. But that's just a suggestion
If you do want to do that I'll save you the trouble of looking how to check, well if you don't know how to..
Install android terminal
And busybox
Type in su
Reboot
Open terminal
Type su
Type dmesg | greps acpuclk
(Alternately: dmesg | greps PVS)
You'll get a couple lines of code
Either slow, nominal, fast, or faster.
It seems majority of people have fast. The better the binning the more your CPU can handle undervolting.
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Chris_n00bz said:
Thanks. Well, I think I will wait for the official announcement of 4.3 or 5.0 before flashing the custom ROM. Too bad since PA with Halo is very tempting...lol
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Android 4.3 probably won't be pushed for at least another 10-15 days... That's plenty of time to check out PA... I would suggest try it now then flash back to stock for the upgrade... Then wait till all the custom ROMs incorporate 4.3 into their builds... Then you can maybe even try another ROM for more flavour
In my opinion CM is better than PA by far... But... PACman which is a blend of PA, CM and AOPK is the best of all worlds... Do give it a try
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toanau said:
Beware if u r a crack flasher. I haven't been able to be on one ROM for more then three days.
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I am the same ay which is why I'm surprised to have been on PA for over 1½ months. Must be because of the frequent updates lately

Nexus 4 sucks.