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Hey XDA,
I've had the G1 for more than a year and a half now, and with all these new phones coming out im really considering a nexus one. But there are allota questions i still have to ask that pertain to people that actually have the phone. I'd appreciate any help.
1. I'm sick and tired of getting the newest "hottest" phone, and then realizing theres so much more just around the corner. With the EVO 4G coming out, the HTC Desire on the horizon, the new Iphone announcement most likely coming in summer - i just want to know if the nexus one is "futureproof". I've been flashing ROMs to my g1 just to keep it as close to the newest and greatest android i can get on it, but i really know now with all these snapdragon processor phones coming out the g1 aint gonna cut it. What do you guys think about the nexus one being futureproof? I'm most likely going to be flashing the latest Cynanogen or the new Desire ROMs on it when I get it. Will cooked ROMs enable me to be on par wiht the competition the Nexus will get in the coming months?
2. How does the Nexus One compare to the HTC Desire? I know they are pretty much the same phone but looking at some reviews, it seems like the Desire is much more highly touted. Since I can get the Desire ROM on my Nexus One when I get it, will the two phones really function that different? Is there a noticable speed boost with that extra about 70MB of RAM the Desire has? I've heard some things about the screen being very responsive - is the screen on the Desire different from the Nexus One? Really, what's so great about the Desire the Nexus One doesn't have?
3. Really. How fast is the Nexus One, stock and with a Cynanogen ROM? Do livewallpapers work flawlessly? Does switching from app to app happen blazing fast?
4. Is the screen that bad to use in the sunlight where its pretty much rendered unusable? I'd like to know from you guys experiencing the phone.
5. About that reception issue the Nexus One is having, is there a really high cahnce the phone I order will have the issue at this point? Is the signal reception issues really bad where I will have that much trouble getting 3g? How bad is it really? I live in NY. So if anyone of u guys live here i'd appreciate your view.
Thanks alot XDA, I'm really looking forward to some answers, and apologize for taking your time.
Greetings!
Like I always say, these are all based on my opinion and experience. You or others might think otherwise...
1- IMO the N1 will be a keeper for quiet awhile, although there might be great phones that are out or coming out, they are less likely to have the latest updates since they arent google devices, they alsi wont get as much attention from the devs compared to the N1‚ just like the G1 to Hero/Mytouch.
2- I consider the desire to be an N1 with sense UI, they're very similar, except for a few things like N1’s noise cancellation features which the desire won't have, anything the desire has however, you have the option to have in the N1 when you flash Modaco's Alpha version of the desire. ( I should say its great for being an Alpha version only).
3- I cannot stress how fast this phone is. live wallpaper works flawlessly and you have Cyanogen, Enomther, Kingklicks and other ROMs available that makes it even better.
4-AMOLED isn't as great as SUPER AMOLED, but with the auto brightness tweak that Enom and Cyan and Modaco have in their ROMs make it good enough for me.
5- I never had a problem with my order or my device, and I ordered it January so they probably fixed minor issues by now to avoid returns, still I suggest you give it a few days before unlocking and rooting ur phone just incase... As far as signal goes I think its all about the network you're on, and since the N1 will be available to all carriers if not already, pick the network that suits u best.
Good Luck brother!!!
1. Nexus one ftw, i just got my nexus one over the HTC desire paying around $260 more for nexus. Reason nexus got many pros n zero cons. Nexus one is one phone gonna live more than 2 years coz its google branded and sold by google and at max only a 1.5 ghz phone can be out in the market and its not gonna happen till mid 2011. Nexus got OC, it is developer friendly it got a big developer support, i know how it feels not to have a good developer backbone. We got all the funky, risk taking deveopers here which is going to unlikely with any other phone. Most G1 developers shifted to N1. For the screen i travel a lot around the worls and nexus has been with me in the brightest SUN. If you make the brightness around 1/2 u can see most stuff on screen, for text reading u need to turn it to full, same was with my Hero, Magic, G1 and Liquid.
For the reception Nexus is the only phone i got which has 2 bars in the basement of my mall which is 2 floor underground.
About EVO, i may have one of the biggest hand but handling HTC HD2 was nothing like holding a monster, its barely gonna look good in ur hand, u will feel awkward n clarity of Nexus will be more due to higher dpi of Nexus. and for EVO on NExus will surely run faster due to the devs we have here. Everything will be ported to nexus. Nexus will have best of both worlds VANILLA (CYANOGEN) and Sense(Paulobrien{Modaco}.
For the speed i currently have more than 413 apps on my phone last i checked n it is still faster than stock nexus one ( U know stock isnt gonna be slow). i get no Lag nothing, NO FC n battery lasts around 14-15 hours ( I use it at full brightness coz i am mostly outside and i got wifi always on, twitter checks every 5 min, 3g always on, Web browsing on the go sites like xda and gizmodo etc, n play my favourite game asphalt(almost finished, was released around 5 days ago n it is a long game), i got no complaints with nexus n i ordered it with a dock coz dock is awesome
About the Build quality- My dad threw my phone in anger on a hard marble floor from around 6 feet and it bounced 3-4 times on floor. no scratch nothing, guess i was lucky (dont try this)
I love the nexus and i am proud to say NEXUS FTW
will tel more of my expreience but gotta go, hope u get it soon
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Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me
Buy one i just got mine two days ago, best android phone, better then the iphone in every sense, if your into complete freedom and customization you will love it....
souljas said:
Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me
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wrd up man, the g1 was hella fun. but with the nexus one out now, im definitely looking for something better than the g1 - and i want that same fun, flashing different ROMs, customizing the hell out of it, showing it off, it was great. definitely stuck on purchasing the n1 though because its alot of money to invest when there are more phones just around the cornerrr
Im almost positive you guys will love the N1, specially coming from a G1. For me it'll take a lot for the competing phones to pass up the N1, unless they come out with a dual processor phone that looks as pretty as the N1, then its time to switch to a new phone.
Hi
Im stuck making this decision so ive decided to ask you guys
I atm have a hero. But im fed up of dodgey 2.1 roms, and playing 3d games like a slide show. I just want a fast android phone that will last me till the end of next summer!!
However being in the UK i can buy it from a friend brand new boxed (their on voda) for £400. Im just wondering is it realy worth it?
ATM this device is preety much the best smartphone out, and with constant android updates i dont think it will be left behind likemy hero anytime soon. But £400 is a LOT of money (im a student ).
Do you guys think it is worth it?
Thanks
Well I think its totally worth it. Think of it this way, the nexus is Google's phone. It's their developer device, the flagship. So hopefully it should have all the newest updates for the next year or so. Even though there are slightly higher end android devices coming, the nexus is still Google's "official" device.
Coming from a G1 running the latest roms, the nexus one was awesome upgrade.
Android needs a lot of ram and the 512mb built in the nexus is really great for speed.
I enjoy my phone more and more each day, it's well worth the price to have this superphone.
Getting froyo first is enough reason to pick up the nexus one
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Go for it bro...u wont regret it
I'm from India (where no support for this device is available) and I'm a student too but I ordered mine... You're from UK where official support is available... so be happy... and this device is worth it... go for it..
Just traded my HD2 for the Nexus, and I'm not regretting it.
What I do miss about the HD2 is the big screen, better speaker, and fpsece
But I can live without those.
nexus has a brighter screen, future, more apps, makes up for it.
Seems faster and more responsive than the HD2 even though it has the same processor.
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Android needs a lot of ram and the 512mb built in the nexus is really great for speed.
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And that's without it being able to access the whole lot too!
The Nexus One will put you ahead of the curve in the 21st century and beyond Go for it.
The question is this "Nexus One...or no Nexus One?" The answer is obvious...buy a Nexus One. You can do more **** with a Nexus One than without one. Consider the following option:
1. Have a bada$$ phone that uses an iPhone as toilet paper.
or
2. Have nothing.
I hope this provides you with enough insight into such a simple inquery.
this is coming from a mytouch3g former user, ill tell you what I like and don't like about the phone:
Like:
speed(in general basically, in games in processed when opening webpages, I find myself not using opera mini anymore because of the speed of the browser to render pagee, on my mt3g opera was my default browser)
screen (is big but not huge)
google support(this phone will get google support up its ass lol meaning new updates months before any android phone)
Not like:
terrible signal (I had amazing signal with the mt3g, with the n1 I get no signal at clubs or at the mall, its switches back and forth from 3g to edge, I've tried a lot of settings still womewhat buggy)
the screen(gosh is it annoying to type on this phone well wen I had just bought it if my palm or fingers were anywhere near the black edges of the screen it won't let me type it was such an annoyance, a tech support gave me a great idea which I was thinking of doing anyway 'a case might help', it really did help it adds thickness to the phone therefore ur palms or fingers never get on the black edges
my decision is quite difficult, I paid 300$ for the phone off the google site,so what I cud do is sell the phone for 400$ pay my 200$etf get an incredible or an evo4g off sprint but I got a hunch that 2.2 is gonna be all that so I would say wait a little bit like till the end of June is not that far and see what happens with froyo. .. gl: )
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Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo
Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.
i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
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Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.
No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?
Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Nexus One for some time now, I'm no stranger to Android, having owned a Droid 2, Droid Incredible, and now a Samsung Captivate that I use with work. I currently also have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone, and I was just given an HTC Surround and Samsung Focus to replace the Captivate with, so I have to decide which I like more. I love Android, I've always been more drawn to it than my iOS devices, although I do love my iPhone. Now that the Nexus One has been out for a year and has its "successor" (depending on who you ask), is it a good buy still? I'm tired of waiting for AT&T to come out with something new that's a real killer phone, I've been hearing whispers of the HTC Desire HD being in testing, and the Moto Olympus being announced at CES. I'd get a Nexus S if I had T-Mobile and it had a microSD slot, but other than a larger screen and NFC capability, I don't see any real upgrade the S brings. What does everyone think, if I get this Nexus One is it a great buy and I'll enjoy it for awhile, or should I save my money and just wait longer?
PS, I know I own too many phones I can't help it! 3 phone lines will do that to ya
I barely got my nexus one so I would give you my own personal feedback.
Cons:
1.battery is some what horrible under medium to heavy use you can always tweak the phone to make last longer but sometimes is a pain in the butt.
2. 512mb of storage is a step back having to always watch what you installed, once again you can tweak it and make it less of an issue.
3. touch screen feedback is not the best like other phones that are out there. also having some multitouch issues on all models but I hardly notice the issue.
4. My personal issue not having a call and end keys is a pain but that just me been picky.
5. another personal opinion camera its not the greatest in my opinion.
Pros:
1. I got the phone for 295 under no contract that's a awesome deal I think.
2. will get gingerbread soon.
3. Having stock android makes things so much better I could of bought many android phones but the lack of updates made think twice of spending 300 plus.
4 this is a big one for me having to tether and having hotspot internet without rooting makes me so happy.
5. Adobe flash I love having flash for the same reason I didn't buy the nokia n8.
I know for a fact next year will be a big year for android if you wanna wait.
I have my nexus a year now, bought it when it just came out. I can agree with josemedina1983. Nexus is mine longest phone because it never got bored, there is always something new to find out, and google bringing the always the new android version makes the N1 up to date. All the new HTC phones are almost like the Nexus, some have more space to install apps on but that's it.
The only thing that bothers me a bit is the touch screen, it works great with apps but soon as you want to play games that require multi touch it's a nightmare.
I like mine N1 it has a great design works great love the trackball (miss it on new models) the dock station is great. i think i wil keep using mine N1 till something really great comes (didn't find a phone to replace it). I don't like the looks of the Nexus s it really feels cheap.
I think N1 is still a good it has it's flaws specially if you want to play games on it.
I've had my N1 for a few months, here's my take:
OS: Froyo with eventual Gingerbread
- Huge community support on the current OS with 'in-view' plans for OTA update to latest OS.
- Lots and lots of ROMs for this puppy, you can hack this baby four ways from Friday.
- Rumors that Gingerbread on latest Nexus S still a little green - will hopefully be ripe when it gets to N1
Phone cons:
- POS multitouch support (doesn't mean it's not responsive to single thumb touch).
- only 512MB of internal memory (but you can root and get Apps2SD to make up for that) [on a side note, isn't 16GB of internal memory on the Nexus S enough!?!]
- Bad design on the power button, will most likely fail after a few months if the design hasn't been fixed (see link in my signature)
- No Gyroscope - but it's not like you don't have other phones to play games on
- No NFC - but how soon are people going to start using that anways?
Phone Pros:
- Been around for a while, huge support community (XDA FTW!).
- Lots of hacks and tweaks for the phone as well.
- Anything wrong with the phone has already been discovered.
- Lots of developers have it, but you don't see it out in the wild that much (unique 'special' factor).
- Still a high end processor for the next few months until the Tegra 2s come out.
- Probably get it cheaper now that the Nexus S is out.
If you can get it cheap without a contract then sure its still a good phone.
But I would not pay full price for it or go on a contract in order to get it at this point.
Its not a bad phone at all but the phone market moves soooo fast its blinding.
I'll be keeping mine another year and then getting whatever is newest once my contract is up.
All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
Just get the S
If you own another android phone and still using it i dont see the point of buying another one especially having the incredible its a damn good phone I think the incredible,evo,nexus,hd2,droid x,g2 are the classic android phones of 2010. I would wait alittle bit and stack up those 300 for the next phone. I feel next year windows 7 nokias meego and android tablets i love having alot of OS options.
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I have had my Nexus One 6 months and think it is a great phone. IMO one of the best looking phones made. I also have a Desire as my main phone and have used the Nexus to learn about rooting and custom roms. Its copped a hammering from experimenting but it has always come back to life. Google is defiantly your friend here LOL. If you have the spare $ and not to concerned with whats around the corner with the next gen Android its a good buy. But maybe that its 12 months since release a more current phone may be better. Try Nexus S. When it arrives in Australia I surely will get one. Good luck with your decision.
Steve.
It's a good phone, but I wouldn't buy it now after a year it came out, unless you get it really cheap. With CES happening right now, you should definitely wait and see.
If I need to recommend a phone I would still recommend the N1 provided its cheaper than the NS
Definitely a phone worth getting, more ROMS then you'll ever know what to do with. I've been back and forth between MIUI, cyanogen and enomthers ROMS and have never been.disappointed. battery life is amazing with these ROMS. My nexus at 1.113 Ghz outperformed my friends droid X at 1.465 Ghz and his rooted Evo
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I've also had gingerbread for about two weeks already and loving it
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All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
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see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU0R9tdodw8
Its not the best but the biggest problem I have is axis flipping and the snapping to match the axis of the other finger (Don't know what that's called officially). It's not the best video and neither of these problems really bother me in day to day use. I vote it's a great phone to own and will be for a few years yet. As for the power button i've had mine since last march and still no issues.
I still think you should wait the nexus one AT&T version are pretty rare and they still go for around 50 + bucks, more than the t-mo version.
Comes this february then I officially own a phone that lasts for a year. Lol I used to change phones a lot. I just tried to find the perfect one for me. pam there it is
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Amazon.com deal on N1 too good to be true?
Been a long time follower of this forum but only just registered.
Looking to buy a Nexus one. It's going at $298 on Amazon from one of their eSellers. It is listed as new but most of the feedback on this seller refers to refurbished products - and sometimes when the buyer was expecting a new one. So I am really sceptical though it is very tempting to be able to get the phone for <$300.
Anyone here Ble to advise? Any better ideas on where I could look?
There are a lot of killer phones out there but....I like having one of the only phones that has Gingerbread without rooting (2.3.4). Exclusivity; I haven't seen one in the wild. Hotspot and tehering without rooting. Vanilla Android. While the touchscreen is buggy at times, I love my N1. I have had it for a year and never regretted my purchase. This is one of the phones that will be remembered for quite sometime IMO. A classic, as it were.
For anyone who is on XDA a few years and previously owned a HD2 or Leo as it was also known I'm wondering if the One will become as legendary or even surpass the HD2?
The HD2 was a revelation as developers could do so much with it, the HD2 forums used to be a hive of activity and i remember the first time developers managed to flash android on what was a Windows 6.5 phone we thought it was amazing, given the one is looking like it's gonna be very very popular let's hope some of the developers come onboard and make this phone even better.
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Short answer? Yes.
The HD2 is still an awesome phone. Even stock it's still very competent at what it does 3+ years after its release.
What it can't achieve in stock mode you can accomplish whatever is left by booting into Droid.
Where can phone specs go after the HTC One?
11? The One already does 11.
HTC HD2 was one of the first if not the first phone that had all at once:
- capacitive (glass) screen
- big screen
- somewhat open architecture, so you can install other OS
- powerful CPU (although that is relative in time)
- good design
- ability to run Android (cool OS) while it originally run Windows (meh OS)
HTC One is not that special. Not even close. It can be remembered as one of the most pretty phones, but not more.
I lost my S3 and luckily there was an unused HD2 lying around the house. Wow, amazing phone. After all these years it's still awesome. I tryied out WP8 on it, works flawlessly; might try out android soon with dual boot.
The phone just looked good, even after all these years it's not outdated at all, the design is amazing and the components are top notch. Really great work. Let's hope the One can do the same
It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
I believe that at this time, owning any flagship except Xperia Z (it's great, but many mediocre parts lead to being unimpressive for some) will make almost anybody happy, whether S4, GPro, One or upcoming phones.
However, the bad production and marketing cannot make One fly. True story.
Ok about marketing, even HTC said they will put more effort, but still no where near the huge amount of endowment from Samsung, for sure.
But production is a bigger problem. Choosing aluminum is not wrong for the quality of product itself, but a bad idea for production.
No matter how good the One is or becomes, it will never top the HD2.
It was so far ahead of its time it was unreal, held down by Windows Phone, I am pretty sure it ran Android better than my Sensation ever did and of course it could run whatever it wanted.
The HD2 was unrivaled, but the One has the S4 and the Xperia ?something? with the same chipsets.
I love my One tho!
No.
When the HD2 came out, it was really different & powerful compared to what was available, but with the HTC One, there are many close competitors. The S4, LG, iPhone5, Xperia Z, HTC's own DNA/Butterfly.
The HTC One is a great phone, but it is NOT considerably better than the competition.
@home said:
It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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You do understand that HD2 was released 3 and a half years ago, right? How can be over hyped if it can run today WP7.8 really smooth and ICS/JB from NAND with some lag here and then, but completely usable and fine?
What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?
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What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?
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Indeed.
Looking three and a half years ahead:
Someone invents virtualization for the HTC One which allows you to run WM 6.5 / 7 / 8/ 8.5 /
Ubuntu / Symbian and a host of other operating systems and legacy apps in RAM / virtual RAM
Let's hope the HTC One has the endurance that the venerable HD2 has.
Surely, all phone I pick always is legendary, I still believe on my choice.
Wasn't the HD2 just an EVO 4G with a crappier camera and no kickstand?
Honestly, no it won't.
Of course it would be amazing if it ever happened but what are the chances of it happening?
The HD2 is the most developed phone ever and even though it's so old, it can still run the latest Android updates and WP updates aswell. I don't think any other phone ever will be as legendary (in terms of what it has achieved) as the HD2.
It was ahead of its time by a long way and that's what helped the success of it.
The HTC One isn't ahead of its time by such a difference, even though it's the best phone around.
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It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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T-mobile 1gb? I remember the international version got only 448mb ram & 512mb of ROM and the T-mobile version got 512mb ram and 1gb ROM. Just saying, as others might think 'T-mobile 1gb' in a different way.
And in those days, I felt jealous as the T-mobile people got a great device with much higher storage and 1gb internal storage and 512mb ram were awesome. And it became great as Android is not popular and there's no galaxy series and no competition. Apart from all these things, the HD2 got great developers like COTULLA and Darkstone. I remember his team releasing MAGLDR bootloader for HD2 as a new year 2011 gift for the world, I can still remember that moment after I saw that post along with the stock version of Android with Sense. And one word to say about Darkstone, he made a build which has used Ram as Nand, instead of Phone storage. But the device was never perfect in hands, It can only be used as a secondary. All this happened, as the device was completely unlocked and after all it got great developers, who made it legendary.
@OP I don't think it's ever possible again with any device. Now a days it's taking at least a year time to achieve S-Off and some like One X(International) may take even 2 years, after that it's old and a newer one arrives, and everyone including the developers think of that new one. Same routine!
It might happen, if the bootloader is completely unlocked and if the device is capable of dual boot etc, which I see has a 0% chance. So, it's waste of time to compare any device with HD2.
I was thinking this myself, the HD2 is probably the most "loved" phone ever on these forums and for good reason, even though I jumped ship to Samsung I used to still pop into the HD2 forums for a look and was amazed that development was still thriving and still is albeit on a much smaller scale these days.
Can't wait to get the HTC One but will always have a soft spot for the HD2
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.
I am always jealous and always blown away by how amazing the hd2 is, and how it still has unbelievable development 3yrs in. I remember in April 2010 trying to decide between hd2 and Evo 4g. It was too hard for me to leave sprint, so I went with Evo (which also still has a pretty amazing level of development),
No phone will be as legendary as hd2. I am really interested in getting a One, but the amazing devs for my device (Evo LTE) already have ported the one/sense 5 to our device, so that will hold me over for a bit
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
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Well said mate, but Afaik, it's Microsoft decision of not upgrading HD2 due to button layout. And they did the same with HD7 as well, saying some other b******t reason.
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myself11 said:
@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.
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Ah yes Darkstone I remember him well and Cotulla too, havent seen or heard from in a long time are they still around
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Cotulla is trying to port Win 8 RT to HD2 Once in a while I go check his twitter account to see what he's doing. It would be great if he bought a HTC One, but he finds Android boring.
Darkstone IDK, I think he's no longer on XDA. I sometimes check his twitter account, but don't see anything "xda dev" related.