If you Tether, are you guaranteed to get caught? There are no appz that can do this silently?
I have been tethering every once in a while for short periods of time for about year months. But just this past month, my internet was down for 2 weeks and I was tethering for those 2 weeks, using up about 3.5gb. It was a mix between wireless hotspot and USB tether. I still haven't been caught.
about 3 months ago, I used tethering for the first time in about half a year. A month later I got a notice saying i had been tethering continued use will...blah blah blah.
I used to tether last year a LOT. like 50 gigs a month of data over my phone. utorrent, streaming, everything.
Thought it was kinda odd that I would get a notice for about 5 minutes of tethering now and not the year of minimum 15GB a month.
Id say its hit or miss. You may get caught your first time, you may not get caught for a long time.
If I wasn't on unlimited still, id just pay the extra a month for tethering. But, im not about to pay an $45/mo for a limited tethering plan when i pay $30/mo for unlimited on my phone.
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I have the unlimited data plan (no tethering) with AT&T. If I tether my laptop to my phone, can AT&T tell what am I doing and charge me extra?
they can't tell what you are doing directly. if you are downloading gigabytes of crap on a monthly basis, they will certainly notice that
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I know a friend who was on vacation for 2 weeks using tethering on his phone and they sent him an excess data charge, I don't know all the details because it wasn't me but it seems like they don't track tethering as much as insane use.
as long as you have an unlimited plan then I don't see how they could charge you extra since that wouldnt be unlimited now would it and I'm pretty sure you could beat it if they tried. I have the unlimited PDA plan and teather all the time and never got something like you say your friend did. I also download Gigs with my Kaiser alone though
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they can't tell what you are doing directly. if you are downloading gigabytes of crap on a monthly basis, they will certainly notice that
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That is pretty much what will throw up a red flag. Right now I don't mess around with cheating the system when it comes to tethering. I have to be able to tether for business reasons, and I pay an extra $20 a month to do so. Just one bill could negate the 12 x $20 a year savings of not using the right plan.
Before I "really" needed to tether, which was maybe 5-10 minutes at a time to send/recieve email, I never got hit with excess data charges. If you start streaming, or up/down loading large files, get ready to be slammed.
It is $30 different. The unlimited data with tethering is $69.99 vs $39.99.
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It is $30 different. The unlimited data with tethering is $69.99 vs $39.99.
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That is for a PDA tethering plan that includes messaging. I use Data Connect, which is $59.99.
See here for the table of data plans. I use the one for laptop cards.
GWelker62 said:
That is for a PDA tethering plan that includes messaging. I use Data Connect, which is $59.99.
See here for the table of data plans. I use the one for laptop cards.
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Thank you, I got it.
I know this has been addressed already, but I was wondering what every one's experience has been with Internet Sharing with AT&T. I'm wondering if you don't have tethering added on to your account will they charge you extra on you bill for using internet sharing. I have heard some people say yes they do (On this forum) and some people say no they don't (On this forum) so I am just trying to figure out which one is true hopefully the latter of the two
well, i've got the $15 media net package on my phone, and they have never complained about that (since you are supposed to have the $30 pda personal plan).
And occasionally I tether to my laptop when I absolutely need to. (I always connect to the wap.cingular access point)
I think as long as you don't go completely crazy with your data usage, they don't complain. I think I average 100 to 150 MB per month.
But if your data usage is big (over 1 GB?) I think that raises some flags.
I've used my 19.99 media max package for downloading large files from my PDA as well as tethered to my laptop. The previous poster summed it up quite nicely. However there are some rumors that AT&T will be changing their whole unlimited data system, but it's unclear when.
Ok, that gives me a better understanding of what the other posters were talking about. I think at&t already changed their media max plans, but if you already have the old one they wont make you change it. (or at least they didn't make me I have unlimited.)
I forgot to say thanks for you guy's help. Thanks
I have the $30 "Unlimited" package, but it's the same story with all the providers (as far as I know, or at least Verizon and AT&T) where there is a limit of 5gb a month. If you go over that they have the right to terminate your service as well as then charging you the $200 dollars or so for an early termination. In all honesty though you'd have to be trying to go over 5gb.
The other plans that aren't "Unlimited" have a specific limit per month that they will straight out tell you.
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I have the $30 "Unlimited" package, but it's the same story with all the providers (as far as I know, or at least Verizon and AT&T) where there is a limit of 5gb a month. If you go over that they have the right to terminate your service as well as then charging you the $200 dollars or so for an early termination. In all honesty though you'd have to be trying to go over 5gb.
The other plans that aren't "Unlimited" have a specific limit per month that they will straight out tell you.
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Thank you thats the plan I have and thats info I needed.
AT&T discontinued their unlimited data plans but apparently there's gonna be a new 100MB data plan per month for the pre-paid users. I don't know if the unused data will roll over to the next month or expire after 30 days. So I was thinking that if the 100MB expires after a month, I might as well blow it all on youtube or something before I use them.
So, is there a program I can install in my phone that can cap the use of data o at least that keep track of the data used within a period of time?
could only find this http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/?en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354103
octavia said:
AT&T discontinued their unlimited data plans but apparently there's gonna be a new 100MB data plan per month for the pre-paid users. I don't know if the unused data will roll over to the next month or expire after 30 days. So I was thinking that if the 100MB expires after a month, I might as well blow it all on youtube or something before I use them.
So, is there a program I can install in my phone that can cap the use of data o at least that keep track of the data used within a period of time?
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Are you kidding?
Where's the hidden camera?
C'mon dude, search!!!
Took me all of 5 seconds http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...nitor&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Hate spoon feeding but here you go http://www.chi-tai.info/download/HomeScreen_PlusPlus_UI.CAB
What I mean Is., I use a Tether app often on my capty.
I still have the old unlimited data plan. but no tether plan....do you think they will catch on if say i were to use my 3g wifi to download movies or whatnot...?
You're definitely not supposed to be doing it, but Ive been doing it for over 3 years now and have seen 100+GB in a month with no problems what so ever. Just don't give up that unlimited plan!
yes the unlimited plan is a must have.!!!! i have had it for 5 years now
This is an interesting question... I wonder if the recent update to the DMCA that allows for jailbreaking would have any affect on whether or not you'd be allowed to tether with out a tether plan.
I think they get away with a lot more "illegal" pratices than you doing tether so to me, you are just fine.
"illegal"
NO
"Outside of your contract terms"
YES
Which means they can drop you at their discretion. I have heard of excessive users getting notices. I see someone claims 100gb a month. That sounds like flags to me, but if you can make it work, then more power to you.
yeah just imagine if they dumbed your unlimited data plan and left you with the option to get the 250 MB plan only.
that would suck.
AT&T's "Unlimited" Plan has what they call a 5GB "Soft Cap". If you use over 5GB in any given month, AT&T flags your account for review. If this happens many times over, your account will be flagged for no further upgrade eligibility. At that point and time, they have the option to drop you completely. They also reserve the right to drop you to a limited plan and charge you overages (currently $10-$15 per GB). Tread lightly. 100+GB will possibly come back to bite you. 5-10GB will probably not cause much of a problem...they are looking for people that use their bandwidth to serve their entire house, not occasional "tetherers".
Apparently unlimited has a different definition in their dictionary....
shaolin95 said:
Apparently unlimited has a different definition in their dictionary....
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Sure does!!!
Definitely be careful with that unlimited plan. Twice now at&t has removed my unlimited data plan without giving me any notice what so ever. When i called them they always gave me the excuse that it was changed many months ago and i had to wait 2 weeks for my case to go through.
have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
Yes, exactly. Rollover data is only used after you use up the data you paid for that month. It works the same way as the old rollover minutes, only being used after you've gone over your minutes for the month. You should read this: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/rollover-data.html
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Yes, exactly. Rollover data is only used after you use up the data you paid for that month. It works the same way as the old rollover minutes, only being used after you've gone over your minutes for the month. You should read this: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/rollover-data.html
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I have a thirty gig plan and rollover has saved my butt especially with 5 smart phones and 4 tablets sharing data so no I don't believe it's a ripoff
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Not the traditional rollover
mtrujillog1 said:
have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
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It is a ripoff compared to other carriers! Also remember, if you don't use the rolled-over data the very next month, you lose it.
A detailed explanation:
If you have a 15gb/month plan, and month 1 you use 10gb. On month 2 you will have your 15 + 5(rolled over). On month 2 if you only use 5gb(of the total 20), month 3 you will have 25gb (15 + 10 rolled over from previous month, you will have lost the 5 from month 1). So it is helpful but it doesn't work in the traditional rollover way. With AT&T rollover minutes it will keep adding up, where this data rollover does not.
It's not a ripoff...you're getting more than you would have had, and you're not paying anything extra.
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It's more than you had a month ago, so just be happy about that...
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I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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Exactly what I did! Not sure how anything can be called a rip off if they are giving us something extra for free...
As a small business owner, I know that some people aren't going to be happy no matter what you do!
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say.
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Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say.
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exactly lol. vzw doesnt even have rollover data
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CAG-man said:
I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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No it doesn't. It gives you 7 gigs every month. The only way you have 10 is if you only used 4 last month - meaning you're leaving 6 on the table every month. So why not pay for 4 instead of 7?
It is a good marketing gimmick that sounds better than it is, though I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
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No it doesn't. It gives you 7 gigs every month. The only way you have 10 is if you only used 4 last month - meaning you're leaving 6 on the table every month. So why not pay for 4 instead of 7?
It is a good marketing gimmick that sounds better than it is, though I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
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I agree with your analysis, but with roll over it is situationally dependant upon each usage as to what makes more sense.
Like I mentioned, I only used about 4 each month on a 10gig plan. The 10gig plan was ironically cheaper than the 4 when I signed up for it. Therefore, I was wasting 6gigs on average every month anyways. With the rollover plan and bumping down to 7gig, I can earn about 10gigs for a cheaper rate based on my usage. Occasionally I do reach 9gigs thus making it the right choice. I don't care about wasting unused gigs if I would have wasted them anyways. I'm just not really paying as much for wasted data.
In short description, I know I don't have a 10gig plan. I can earn (on average) a 10gig plan using the 7gig plan based on my historical usage of 4gigs a month.
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have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
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Uhhh, yeah... Its a ripoff cause you don't understand rollover?
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how can anyone think its a rip off if you are not paying more then you already would have.
ATT has been pretty damn good when it comes to deals on data. me and my family share 40 gigs of data with rollover now, we got the data plan when they were offering half price. so we all pay like 60 bucks tops a month and thats because we all have new phones with the next plan. i use up to 12 gb of data where my family hardly uses any...most of the time. so its way better then paying for 10 dollars a gig over.
Not a ripoff at all
I wouldn't call it a ripoff either, but it would have been nice if they did it like rollover minutes. I used to have unlimited until a year ago.
I didn't use it and lowered my bill cause I would waste a bunch of money every month. I now regret doing this. My wife and I work from home so it didn't matter at the time.
Now that I will be working outside the home, matters lol. Lots of wifi hotspots though, which helps.
If enough people complain, maybe they will change it.
I think it sucks because I'm single and only have one line yet I'm spending $91 a month as much as some family plans! But, I'm not worthy of their freebies. Sorry, but been a customer for 8 years and never any rewards for loyalty just those who jump from carrier to carrier!
Would all the guys that think it's a ripoff prefer not having what is left rolled over? At least they're doing that for us for that month.