have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
Yes, exactly. Rollover data is only used after you use up the data you paid for that month. It works the same way as the old rollover minutes, only being used after you've gone over your minutes for the month. You should read this: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/rollover-data.html
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Yes, exactly. Rollover data is only used after you use up the data you paid for that month. It works the same way as the old rollover minutes, only being used after you've gone over your minutes for the month. You should read this: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/rollover-data.html
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I have a thirty gig plan and rollover has saved my butt especially with 5 smart phones and 4 tablets sharing data so no I don't believe it's a ripoff
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have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
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It is a ripoff compared to other carriers! Also remember, if you don't use the rolled-over data the very next month, you lose it.
A detailed explanation:
If you have a 15gb/month plan, and month 1 you use 10gb. On month 2 you will have your 15 + 5(rolled over). On month 2 if you only use 5gb(of the total 20), month 3 you will have 25gb (15 + 10 rolled over from previous month, you will have lost the 5 from month 1). So it is helpful but it doesn't work in the traditional rollover way. With AT&T rollover minutes it will keep adding up, where this data rollover does not.
It's not a ripoff...you're getting more than you would have had, and you're not paying anything extra.
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It's more than you had a month ago, so just be happy about that...
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I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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Exactly what I did! Not sure how anything can be called a rip off if they are giving us something extra for free...
As a small business owner, I know that some people aren't going to be happy no matter what you do!
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say.
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Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say.
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exactly lol. vzw doesnt even have rollover data
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CAG-man said:
I think it is a great deal. I even dropped my plan to save money because of it. I had the 10gig plan now I am on 7, I usually never went over 4gigs with 2 lines. That will give me roughly 10 gigs every month for a cheaper rate than paying for the 10gig plan.
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No it doesn't. It gives you 7 gigs every month. The only way you have 10 is if you only used 4 last month - meaning you're leaving 6 on the table every month. So why not pay for 4 instead of 7?
It is a good marketing gimmick that sounds better than it is, though I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
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No it doesn't. It gives you 7 gigs every month. The only way you have 10 is if you only used 4 last month - meaning you're leaving 6 on the table every month. So why not pay for 4 instead of 7?
It is a good marketing gimmick that sounds better than it is, though I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
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I agree with your analysis, but with roll over it is situationally dependant upon each usage as to what makes more sense.
Like I mentioned, I only used about 4 each month on a 10gig plan. The 10gig plan was ironically cheaper than the 4 when I signed up for it. Therefore, I was wasting 6gigs on average every month anyways. With the rollover plan and bumping down to 7gig, I can earn about 10gigs for a cheaper rate based on my usage. Occasionally I do reach 9gigs thus making it the right choice. I don't care about wasting unused gigs if I would have wasted them anyways. I'm just not really paying as much for wasted data.
In short description, I know I don't have a 10gig plan. I can earn (on average) a 10gig plan using the 7gig plan based on my historical usage of 4gigs a month.
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have any of u guys see it this way or is really help in us at the end. i just check my data plan from last month to this month and i had a 5+gbs rollover from last month to have a total of 20gbs for the month. and i used a 13gbs for this month and i end up having 17gbs for next month?? i just talk to customer service and they said that the rollover is getting used after i used my 15gbs from the plan!!
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Uhhh, yeah... Its a ripoff cause you don't understand rollover?
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how can anyone think its a rip off if you are not paying more then you already would have.
ATT has been pretty damn good when it comes to deals on data. me and my family share 40 gigs of data with rollover now, we got the data plan when they were offering half price. so we all pay like 60 bucks tops a month and thats because we all have new phones with the next plan. i use up to 12 gb of data where my family hardly uses any...most of the time. so its way better then paying for 10 dollars a gig over.
Not a ripoff at all
I wouldn't call it a ripoff either, but it would have been nice if they did it like rollover minutes. I used to have unlimited until a year ago.
I didn't use it and lowered my bill cause I would waste a bunch of money every month. I now regret doing this. My wife and I work from home so it didn't matter at the time.
Now that I will be working outside the home, matters lol. Lots of wifi hotspots though, which helps.
If enough people complain, maybe they will change it.
I think it sucks because I'm single and only have one line yet I'm spending $91 a month as much as some family plans! But, I'm not worthy of their freebies. Sorry, but been a customer for 8 years and never any rewards for loyalty just those who jump from carrier to carrier!
Would all the guys that think it's a ripoff prefer not having what is left rolled over? At least they're doing that for us for that month.
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Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.
The standard warning applies with the above offers and all like it. You are likely to not get that money due to obscure overcomplicated rules on redeeming the cashback, normally involving goats, virgins, and lunar eclipses.
It's been scientifically proven that people too evil to be a seal-clubber or second-hand car salesman go on to run discount phone websites.
The original deal direct from Orange is still good though. In fact, it's the one I signed up for earlier.
Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.
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Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.
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You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?
i just got a upgrade
they have given me 650 cross network
unlimited landline calls
unlimited texts
"unlimited" data
18 month contract...which i don't mind.... £30
this was direct from orange....no funny middle men
Free direct from orange on £30 pm
Just bought mine on upgrade, direct from orange for £30 pm 600mins + unlimited text and web, phone was free!
I suspect you can get it for free on the £25pm but I wanted unlimited web.
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Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.
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Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.
You need to check if these 3rd party dealers are giving the unlimited mobile data. I just ordered with M2YD on a Dolphin 35 18 month contract, free handset and this DOES include the unlimited mobile browing (confirmed with M2YD and Orange CS on the phone). £35 per month with £210 back on redemption and £55 cashback with quidco. This means my total cost for the 18months will be £365
Me too
I've ordered from m2yd.
Dolphin 35 .... £210 cashback, unlimited internet and texts. £55 back from www.quidco.com
In all, over 18 months it will cost me £20.28 per month
Best deal currently available over 18 months ... I think I've searched them all!
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Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.
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The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.
I don't worry about the 18 months thing. For heavily subsidied expensive phones, it often works out that the TCO over 18 months is just a few more £ than over 12 months.
Way back when I got my Wizard with Vodafone, the 18 month contract was about £20 more than with a 12 month contract. I still got my Vario II 12 months later, but then had a spare contract phone for 6 months for £20.
As for the whole "unlimited" thing, it's not just in regards to data, they also wrap "unlimite texts" etc. in similar weasel words. I'm surprised that they're all allowed to get away with it still. It's pure false advertising, and they all do it.
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The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.
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sounds like bias to me.
At least T Mobile offer 1GB fair use. 500MB is way too limited.
Also with T's web n walk plus, you get free GLOBAL T Mobile hotspot access.
Also T have a brilliant HSDPA network. How extensive is Oranges?
Also with orange - you seen that cost to non orange mobiles outside of your air time?
As for contract length.. let me put it this way..
12 months ago I bought a brand new HTC Touch.
Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
Likewise does it allow for VOIP?
I can see how Opera will quickly eat into the data instead of pocket IE and its cut down pages
Back on topic, Orange allow a downgrade to the next lower tariff after 9(?) months -so a bit more saving. Not sure if this impacts on the cashback offer though
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Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
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The unlimited package on orange does not allow tethering or VOIP...
Have done quite a bit of VOIP over 3G with Skype using an Orange 250mb data plan with my old Tytn 2 and never got charged for it, when I check my usage all it shows is I used a few megs, done that for months
Not tried tethering though as I have no need to.
They may say we don't allow you to do it but doesn't mean they banned it
Sorry, whats tethering?
ljames28 said:
You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?
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Ok for 6 months extra you get a FREE projector and £80 or pay £30 and get £20 and a free projector!
http://www.beepy.co.uk/mobile-phone...hin-35-24-month-home-cinema-gaming-projector/
Or get a FREE iPod so .... yeh it is free when you compare it with your deal
Recieved my orange UK diamond!!
Wooo!
I've got my diamond today through the m2yd and quidco cashback offer.
There's no discernable customisation to the interface and a very discreet orange badge on the rear cover.
Here are some unboxing pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/fareedoon/20080711Diamond
Also to add, it is sim-locked.
Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else
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Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else
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thanks, just noticed it!
OK, so I realized that our long standing unlimited plans are going away. Fair enough, but I've finally done the math and we are all going to get boned in a BIG way (minimum of 25% increase in bill). This is almost enough to go back to the dark ages and forget my stupid cell phone service all together. But before I take the leap out into the vast void, I figured maybe someone else was pawing over this and done some research of their own?
So here's the question I pose:
What's the smartest route to go now? I've been thinking about coverage issues, and obviously Verizon has the biggest reach, but I'm thinking this last "less than tactful" boning was the last straw.
Is anyone else about to flush Verizon, or am I alone in this?
6GB + Cell = $120. 4GB + Cell = $100. I'm not sure whether to laugh, or cry?
I'm paying ~$70... Umm... Seems like Verizon is the new Ma Bell on the block?
Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
edit: forgot to mention, if you want more than 2GB, you have to go with the Shared Everything plan even though you're just one person. totally blows.
mrhomiec said:
Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
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Ah... Unlimited text. Hmm.. I forgot people are big into texting. OK, so I guess this won't be a system shock for everyone like it is for me. More like slowly turning up the heat on the frog in the pot.
I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
Was just looking at Sprint...
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I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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Based on the reviews here in Colorado, and the price difference, as well as the good selection of phones, I'm 99% confident that if Verizon doesn't pull their heads out by summer/fall of next year, I'm jumping to Sprint as well.
This is why I haven't been looking to upgrade. Red might loose a long time customer.
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I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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I currently pay around $150 with 1 smart phone and 4 basic. 1400 mins and 150 mb. The new Screw me plan for the exact same except 2 gb would cost me $220 and I lose most of an employee discount for where I work. I checked T-Mobile and they have a comparable plan to where I'm at and u would wind up paying right around where I am right one. Vzw will lose this customer from 1999.
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I had 2 phone line with 1400 mins shared and 4g on each phone. I used all 4 every month and my wife hardly used any. I also had unlimited texting. Now i have unlimited calls and texting and 4 g shared and im saving 30 a month. So i guess it helped me out. Seeing as we were only using 4g a month anyways.
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I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
same boat here... im grandfathered in under the old unlimited plan, but once this contract is up come next May, im jumping on my wife's family share plan with Sprint. Then ill have a better phone, unlimited everything again, and only pay 35.00 per/mo since its chipping in on the plan. WAY better then the 76.00 im paying now and that includes an 18% corperate discount..
Seriously Verizon? get real.
jaymazz13 said:
I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
I'm grandfathered in on my unlimited too. I got my Revo before they made the upgrade change...lucky me...I have my DX to my partner and her D1 to our daughter. My daughter doesn't need a 4G phone...and because my partner only uses her phone to call people...and doesn't need a 4G either.
I pay way too much a month for only 2000 shared minutes...family and friends (10)...unlimited text and data = $245 on 3 lines.
We is decide to buy Amazon or eBay for upgrades if we decide to get better phones for them.
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
I bought my past few phones off craigslist, cheaper than ebay, and I always have them meet me at a verizon store.
So you have Verizon activate the phone and then you pay the person you're buying it from after you know it's good to go?
YUP! Well that's what happened last time. Most of the time you can just meet at the Verizon store and have one of the clerks check the ESN# to make sure it hasn't been reported lost or stolen, so normally you dont need to have the seller wait round for activation.
Great tip!
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
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I agree. I sold my REVO and got a Galaxy Nexus so I could keep my unlimited, and I'll never buy a phone from a Verizon store again. I'll keep upgrading via ebay or craigslist and just keep replacing my phone. That way I never have to renew my contract and I get to keep unlimited.
I'm on a family plan. Does this mean upgrading any phone would cause a change in the plan for all of us? I don't think I could hold off all the family members very long to keep the old plan.
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/7/1...-price-of-its-unlimited-plans-to-80-per-month
I don't quite understand it... Seeing as how my bill is $89 everything with insurance. Could you smarter guys explain?
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XaoSilentrzk said:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/7/1...-price-of-its-unlimited-plans-to-80-per-month
I don't quite understand it... Seeing as how my bill is $89 everything with insurance. Could you smarter guys explain?
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Guess it won't affect you but for me yes.
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I believe they're gonna get rid of the "Everything Data Share" plan and stick with this one... makes sense. And they're bringing the 5gb wifi hotspot for 30/mo.
Go SoftBank!
via sexy phONE.
Sprint must be kidding. I have the Family plan 1500 and 4 of my lines are only $30 a month with unlimited data and text and we get no wheres near 1500 minutes. It would stupid on my part to switch where the cheapest line would be $50 a month with unlimited data. I hate to think that they think i am that stupid to fall for it.....lol
Where are the limited minutes? You already get unlimited mobile to mobile + nights and weekends, so...?
These new plans are waaayy to expensive.
Wait.. does Sprint's website reflect the changes? I see no price changes (for family).
For the math challenged, here's a breakdown for a family of 5 smartphones:
Before:
$150 (lines 1 & 2) + 3 x $20 (lines 3,4,5) + $10 x 5 (Premium data fee) = $260 not including taxes.
1500 peak non-mobile minutes, mobile to mobile is free, off peak is free, unlimited data
After:
$50 + $40 + $30 + $20 + $20 + $30 x 5 (Unlimited data) = $310
Unlimited voice, data
So, you're trading $50 /mo for the unlimited calls. Sounds like a pretty raw deal for Everything Data Family users with max members. For a family of 2 smartphones its:
$150 + $10 x 2 = $170
vs.
$50 + $40 + 2 x $30 = $150
It's cheaper here, because Sprint charges so little for the 3rd, 4th and 5th members.
So this has no effect on me basically? I'm the only one on my plan so this news means nothing to me? Here I thought the price war was on too lol... The race to the bottom
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So this has no effect on me basically? I'm the only one on my plan so this news means nothing to me? Here I thought the price war was on too lol... The race to the bottom
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I have everything 450 for $80 right now, so if I switch to the new plan, I can get unlimited minutes...
sounds decent, but I don't really use 450 a month anyway.
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I have everything 450 for $80 right now, so if I switch to the new plan, I can get unlimited minutes...
sounds decent, but I don't really use 450 a month anyway.
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Me neither so this plan is basically useless to us?
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Something to pay attention to with the new Sprint plans.....Fine Print:
"While using your device outside of Sprint's coverage area, (ROAMING) you are allowed 100MB of data per month. Should you bypass this limit, Sprint "may discontinue service."
Source
I know not that long ago my plan was $119 and that included my first 2 lines. Now its only 1 line and a extra $10 for the premium data and the 4 other lines are $29.99 each. I dont know how that happened because i thought sprint allowed you to upgrade your phone without changing your plan but now i see thats not true. Maybe i just understood it wrong....lol
Very interesting. This makes my hand squeeze a lil more on the trigger to add a line and get the ONE instead of upgrading my wife's phone.
Then I would have the ONE and the wife would have S3
Because as of right now, I get worst service on my Virgin mobile(S3 and Evo)then on my wife's Sprint s2(go figure) and now VM is under new terms/agreement as of 8-13-13.
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Very interesting. This makes my hand squeeze a lil more on the trigger to add a line and get the ONE instead of upgrading my wife's phone.
Then I would have the ONE and the wife would have S3
Because as of right now, I get worst service on my Virgin mobile(S3 and Evo)then on my wife's Sprint s2(go figure) and now VM is under new terms/agreement as of 8-13-13.
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VM don't let you access LTE do they? Don't they only sell WiMax phones?
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I'll just stick with my SERO-P.
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VM don't let you access LTE do they? Don't they only sell WiMax phones?
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That is correct. They sell LTE phones like my S3 but.......
If they do then it has to be very limited.(as I have been to Phoenix, southern California and Las Vegas. Have only got WiMAX ). WiMAX is the highest data I have received yet from then on my s3.
Also, about 1.5 months I called about my
Bogus service. The lady said." We are undergoing a lot of new changes and I am sorry for the inconvenience" I then asked, "is Virgin Mobile Going to be similar to Straight talk" ? I got a pause then she said, " like I said, Virgin Mobile is undergoing a lot of changes "
This gives me a excuse to get the HTC ONE I have been wanting so long lol :thumbup:
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I have 2 lines, first line is $110 + $10 and the other is 19.99 + $10 that's $149.99 plus tax and insurance, if I get the unlimited my way, it's $90 for the two lines plus $60 for data, that's $150 but I'm getting unlimited minutes, which I probably don't need, but might as well get it.
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Another difference is switching to one of the new plans will lock it in for life where as staying on my 1500 min 4 line everything plan is subject to sprint changing at their will if they choose to do so in the future. On each of the 4 phones we never reach 1 gb of data usage in a month ever. We are always on wifi, home and work so I don't know what I should do in my situation.
benny3 said:
I know not that long ago my plan was $119 and that included my first 2 lines. Now its only 1 line and a extra $10 for the premium data and the 4 other lines are $29.99 each. I dont know how that happened because i thought sprint allowed you to upgrade your phone without changing your plan but now i see thats not true. Maybe i just understood it wrong....lol
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they screwed you...I've upgraded my wifes last Christmas & I still have the $110 everything data family plan....but that only includes the 1st line. Lines 2-5 are $20, plus $10 for premium data for smartphones (unless grandfathered). Having a 21% discount helps
they updated the plan awhile back, it was changed to $150 for 1st & 2nd lines, 3-5 are $30/mo, no premium data charge....I was just about to update to this plan, now it's gone
oh, and I like this part....
I have a discount through my employer. Does my employer discount work with the new plans?
Discounts apply to the monthly data charge rather than the primary rate plan for lines on the Unlimited, My Way plan. The My All-in plan is non-discountable.
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I got the Everything Data 450 plan iirc, with my 22% discount I end up paying like $84 a month with insurance/tep. If they give me the discount on the new plan it should be right about the same but what I dont like is the small print of "Other plans may receive prioritized bandwidth availability . Streaming video maybe limited to 1mbps". Who knows if they are gonna cap everyone over a certain limit, thats what I dont want.
I just called and the sprint rep told me they dont offer any employer discounts on these plans, so I wont be switching.
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I got the Everything Data 450 plan iirc, with my 22% discount I end up paying like $84 a month with insurance/tep. If they give me the discount on the new plan it should be right about the same but what I dont like is the small print of "Other plans may receive prioritized bandwidth availability . Streaming video maybe limited to 1mbps". Who knows if they are gonna cap everyone over a certain limit, thats what I dont want.
I just called and the sprint rep told me they dont offer any employer discounts on these plans, so I wont be switching.
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I'm just staying on my plan. I'm too confused about these plans. I hope it ain't no caps with this slow ass network.
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Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
I to hate losing discounts on equipment, but Sprint has to make money somewhere. Lower monthly rates (yes, 25 a month for unlimited talk/text 1GB of data is LOW) usually means a higher cost somewhere.
I have an unlimited everything plan for 45 a month on the Framily plan, phone costs 25 a month, but heck, I'll take it! Better than anything Big Red or TMob can do.
I will direct your attention to the fine print if you want to be even more upset, particularly the section about data and video streaming.
I'm on mobile, but if memory serves, it basically says that framily plans get bumped down in case of localized high data demand + video streaming is limited to the point of being useless to ease network congestion.
Hesse: data will remain unlimited. Yeah, OK guy.
No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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Just checked my bill, I have 3 lines, and all of them are getting $10 off, making them $45 each. You get more off for each line until they're down to $25 each, IIRC.
First of all, for clarification purposes I think it's appropriate to call them "device subsidies" rather than "discounts".
Next, I am not sure what the OP's "big surprise" here is. The Framily plan is a no-contract engagement. As such there are no device subsides provided under it. This isn't any different than any of the other large carriers' no-contract offerings.
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Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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No argument on most of the points. My biggest complaint is that they don't come out and tell you up front that this is the way it works. It all just seems a little deceiving to me. I will get my first Framily bill soon and I will see what my actual monthly change is and then I will pass judgement on what/if the savings based on a traditional plan will be.
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when I can't download or even make a call from my house.
@jtsv. I have the same plan so I think I will stay on it as well. I pay $190 for 4 lines unlimited everything.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when i can't download or even make a call from my house.
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When I hit 6 lines I could no longer use the Family 1500 plan. I had to go to the My Everything plan. Like I said I will have to analyse the bill and see if I should switch back.
travisw0204 said:
Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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They are currently waiving the $15 fee.
Woah, thanks for the info. I was thinking about switching to the framily plan but hadn't looked into it yet. Now I know it's not for me. It may be a good choice for people who don't mind keeping phones for a long time though.
With sprint, read the fine print
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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Essentially. But with the added feature of not being under contract which means you can jump ship at any time unless you still have time left on your existing contract then you will be contract free from that point forward.
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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hey guys join my framily E00395575cg i have 3 people so far lets get this price down
Thanks guys
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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Ah ok thanks that's what i was wondering I was assuming you have to turn your phone in.
I am a grandfathered unlimited user on Verizon. I have not used an upgrade in years to keep my UDP, and have paid full price for my phones. Yet the price of my plan hasn’t changed once. Back when I did use upgrades wasn’t I supposed to be paying extra to cover the cost of my phone? And now that I’m on month-to-month wasn’t I supposed to get some kind of discount to account for the fact that I was no longer paying subsidies for a phone? Just curious if anybody else got some kind of discount when they switched from a contract to month-to-month. I switched about 2 years ago and the price never changed. Figured I'd ask here since there are probably a lot of people with UDPs on month-to-month here.
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I am a grandfathered unlimited user on Verizon. I have not used an upgrade in years to keep my UDP, and have paid full price for my phones. Yet the price of my plan hasn’t changed once. Back when I did use upgrades wasn’t I supposed to be paying extra to cover the cost of my phone? And now that I’m on month-to-month wasn’t I supposed to get some kind of discount to account for the fact that I was no longer paying subsidies for a phone? Just curious if anybody else got some kind of discount when they switched from a contract to month-to-month. I switched about 2 years ago and the price never changed. Figured I'd ask here since there are probably a lot of people with UDPs on month-to-month here.
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If your on a more everything plan u get a discount if u are on edge or have a device that has been paid off, or a contract was completed, but i believe its only for people on more everything
If you go into a Verizon store, they are actually pretty good about going through your bill/plan. They tell you all your options, even if it is detrimental to them. I went it with my brother, reworked his plan, and walked out paying less. They never once gave him a hard time.
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If your on a more everything plan u get a discount if u are on edge or have a device that has been paid off, or a contract was completed, but i believe its only for people on more everything
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I am on an older style Nationwide Talk & Text plan. They used to call me all the time trying to get me to switch and give up UDP, telling me I would save money, but I guess they gave up. Has anybody ever switched plans and kept UDP? I'm scared to make any changes to my plan for fear of losing unlimited.
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I am on an older style Nationwide Talk & Text plan. They used to call me all the time trying to get me to switch and give up UDP, telling me I would save money, but I guess they gave up. Has anybody ever switched plans and kept UDP? I'm scared to make any changes to my plan for fear of losing unlimited.
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i think that if u make any data changes like from what u have to everything share plan u will lose the UDP
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I am a grandfathered unlimited user on Verizon. I have not used an upgrade in years to keep my UDP, and have paid full price for my phones. Yet the price of my plan hasn’t changed once. Back when I did use upgrades wasn’t I supposed to be paying extra to cover the cost of my phone? And now that I’m on month-to-month wasn’t I supposed to get some kind of discount to account for the fact that I was no longer paying subsidies for a phone? Just curious if anybody else got some kind of discount when they switched from a contract to month-to-month. I switched about 2 years ago and the price never changed. Figured I'd ask here since there are probably a lot of people with UDPs on month-to-month here.
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No when you got the first phone you signed a 2 year contract that's what paid for the phone, when the 2 years was up everything stayed the same except the contract was over and you went month to month.
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No when you got the first phone you signed a 2 year contract that's what paid for the phone, when the 2 years was up everything stayed the same except the contract was over and you went month to month.
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What confuses me is that a lot of people around here have said that when you get a subsidized phone you pay extra for it in the contract. They say there are hidden fees that cover the cost of the phone over those 2 years. The cost of my plan is based off the average person who gets a $400 discount on their new phone every 2 years. With UDP, we can't upgrade at a discount so I am paying $600 for a new phone instead of $200. And I've been on month-to-month for at least 2 years now so they got 2 more years out of me without a contract all while paying contract price. Either way, it all comes down to paying this extra $400 every phone to keep unlimited when Verizon is trying everything in their power to get me to switch. That's a lot of money to have unlimited, but it's worth it.
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What confuses me is that a lot of people around here have said that when you get a subsidized phone you pay extra for it in the contract. They say there are hidden fees that cover the cost of the phone over those 2 years. The cost of my plan is based off the average person who gets a $400 discount on their new phone every 2 years. With UDP, we can't upgrade at a discount so I am paying $600 for a new phone instead of $200. And I've been on month-to-month for at least 2 years now so they got 2 more years out of me without a contract all while paying contract price. Either way, it all comes down to paying this extra $400 every phone to keep unlimited when Verizon is trying everything in their power to get me to switch. That's a lot of money to have unlimited, but it's worth it.
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No you only pay the extra fee if you are on the edge plan like i am for my phone, then when the phone is paid off you no longer pay that.
My wife's 2 YR agreement just ended and we are paying the same amount as we did but we own the phone now.