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[Q] How can I remove internet?

Hey guys the G1 data plan is getting too expensive for me and I'm planning to cancel soon. After I call in and cancel, how can I get my G1 to stop trying to access the internet unless its Wifi? Or once I cancel I won't have to worry about this?
I also heard a rumor about changing the APN settings so you can still have and use the internet? Is this true?

no real way to stop the phone from accessing the web since even in the background it sends packets of information. that's just how the phone works that's why you need the data plan for this phone.

i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?

tinyaznboi said:
i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i just said no there is no way to to shut off the internet due to the fact that the phone requires you to have a google account to run it even if you flash a adp build and skip the logon proceedure the phone still access the web in the background without you knowledge you will still get billed for data charges at t mobs data rate which i think is 25 to 50 cents per meg used.

disable auto sync
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)

bittermormon said:
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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the problem is even with auto sync off the phone still polls the internet in the background for updates and other things you could remove every internet reliant app off your phone and it still polls the internet it just the way android is designed he want to stop all internet traffic which is impossible without hacking the rom beyond what we do or pulling out the sim. even google maps requires to poll the internet in the background without him even turning it on. it's just impossible to stop it completely.

Install APNdroid.

Easiest, simplest, most reliable way: Go into settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point names, then click on each one and hit menu then delete. You will also need to finangle with tmobile through their customer service number in order to get them to cancel 3g for your G1 (they have some kind of a policy that's supposed to mean that you have to have an unlimited data plan with the G1, but if you're patient with them they'll let you cancel and just have voice.)

Even easier way. Download Toggle Data from market. That's what I've been using since I cancelled my plan. No more data in the background, so my battery life is longer. Sometimes my phone goes like 2-3 days without charge. (Of course without using wifi)

apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.

Before I bricked my G1, (I don't have a data plan) I just went to the T-Mobile store and told the guy what I could do to stop the internet. He just changed some kind of port number and stopped the internet so I don't get charged.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.

ultra spikey said:
I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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i wasn't talking about apndroid
i was talking about the guy who told him to delete all his apns

if i use apndroid will i still be able to use wifi? also im using a JACHero's rom and i noticed this in the settings...
Data Sync > Google > Background Date Usage [X]

APN Droid only kills the data.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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No, the APN controls cellular data (internet and MMS) only. Voice and SMS are "built in" so to speak - as long as the SIM matches yoru carrier's records, they will work.
Deleting the APNs (or using APNdroid) will block cellular data, leaving voice, SMS and WiFi internet unaffected.

Strange data issues. How to track down malicious apps?

Alright, I really need some help from the big boys here.
I have had my N1 since release. I have T-Mobile and no data plan. Everything I do is over wifi.
On Friday, I saw the 3g icon on my phone for the first time. It appeared out of nowhere and just flips between 3G and E since T-Mobile just blocks data for non-plan users. This was killing the battery life of the phone.
I called Google and they ran me through *#*#4636#*#* to disable the data connection. This fixed the problem for a while; However after a while the phone will give a message that there is no service provider and will reconnect to T-Mobile (it has never done this before outside of phone boots). When it is back up the 3G/E cycling starts again. Even worse the data connection still lists as disabled and will not re-enable. I have to pop the battery out while it is running to get back in to disable it.
Google thinks its an app but I have removed everything but Touchdown and K9 which I don't think are the problem. I have used Android OS Monitor and I do see connections to 64.15.75.218 and 209.44.107.13 which are hot beds for malware and when I uninstall any app these connections vanish temporarily. But they come back after a few hours.
Anyone seen this before or know a way to track IP connections to a particular app?

I have no solution for tracing 'malicious' software but it is possible to just disable all mobile data usage.
Settings/Wireless and network settings/ Mobile networks > "Data enabled"
If you unselect this there should be no more data transfer while on the mobile network.

I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
Problem is I did the same thing for 2.1 but it keeps coming back on. Even with wifi the phone connects to these ips so who knows what it is doing.

3G isn't used only for data, you can do voice on 3G.
Could be T-Mobile expanding 3g into your are where you didn't have coverage before.
Call T-Mobile and make sure you're not actually using data.
As for tracking applications, you can use System Panel Pro of the market to monitor how much data applications are using.

I know I am not using data. The T-Mobile account page is pretty detailed and I am unable to do anything online when wifi is off. 3G has also been available for a while here as I know others that use it.
I will check out system panel.
Thanks.

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I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
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It is indeed only on Froyo, however, Froyo is out now, so install it and you'll instantly benefit.

A few more things:
Were you receiving or sending MMS (picture/video messages) when the 3G icon popped up? This is normal and doesn't usually come out of your data balance.
If you'd like to be triple-sure you're not using data, go into the APN settings. Edit the APN name - e.g. change tmobile.com to nomobile.com. Now it *really* shouldn't be able to access data.

Smarphones would be well to do to have a Zonealarm/little snitch type app for this purpose.
Id imagine ad based apps wouldnt be too happy about it. At the least an app that reports IPs times , and IN/OUT info.

I never use SMS or mms and have not gotten any during this time.
My concern is not related to getting charges but with unwanted use of my phone or data. When the data connection auto enables it will go through my battery in a matter or hours and who knows what the phone may be doing.
I know I can turn this off and make sure data is not used - in fact I have already done this. However when smoke enters room you don't just put a towel under the door and forget about it. I want to find the source of this and stop it because the behavior is not normal.
I agree something like zone alarm would be good. You should be able prevent or track an app activities for situations like this. If I knew what was connecting to these IPs and enabling the data connection I could stop it and report the app or submit a bug request. Right now I am just all alone.
I did try system panel which seems like a nice app but it does not give me good information on network usage by app. OSMonitor is better at connection monitoring but doesn't list by app. Why has no one thought to monitor network threads by app?

Try alogcat maybe? Any time you notice the icon suddenly appearing, save a copy of the logcat and comb through it.

alogcat may work. Figured out OSMonitor had something similar and filtered by app.
Now I just gotta wait I guess. Still not enough info to relate to IP though.

You should know that the data connection setting isn't an enforcement for the entire phone. It only acts as a notice to applications on whether or not to use data in the background.
Developers are supposed to respect those settings, but they are not enforced.

There is a free program called Network Statistics which is no longer in the market. I will backup the apk for you and upload it so you can use it. It shows the amount of data used by each app.
I too had a data hungry app issue and this helped me solve it immediately.
I'm just at work ATM, so I'll do it this evening. (Almost midday now here in Australia )
Cheers,
Ross

@JCopernicus
I am aware of this which is why I want to track this problem down.
@Ross
That sounds great. I appreciate the help. Not sure if tracking data usage is enough since I don't think the app is sending a lot of data. But I am willing to try anything.
I should be getting froyo soon so maybe that will help as well.

This is what I do when I want to ensure I don't use Data. Go I. To wireless connections. Mobile Networks, and then access points. Create a new one. I usually call it No Data. The for the apn, I just make something dumb, like no.data.com, and then save. After I'll select that as my apn.

The issue is not about the use of the data connection. I have done this and can guarantee the phone cannot use any cell data network. The problem is an app is trying to use it anyway even when it is disabled. Even if you ignore that as a concerning activity the constant 3G searching reduces the battery life to a mere hours.
I appreciate the help, but my issue is not with how to disable the data connection. Its about identifying malware on my device, and tracking an app calls to a specific IP.

Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
If you only want to use "2g" switch your phone over to gsm only through 4636 or through the menu where it says "use 2g only".
You will never see the 3g icon again.
If you wan't to be 100% sure no app is calling an IP, then do a factory reset. Install apps one by one, monitor them through the various options given in this thread already.
You will not be able to prevent an application from "calling home" unless you modify the app itself. Apps use the data connection provided to them by the OS however they see fit.
Every app you install has a permissions prompt that will tell you it want's internet access.

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Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
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The Android "3G", "H", "E" or "G" icon denotes data. It may also appear temporarily when making the connection necessary to transmit MMS. It does not appear when the phone is using voice over 3G without a data connection.

Actually, this may be a T-Mobile issue - they just enabled the ability to do "pay as you go" data on ALL plans without a data plan, so they may be the ones turning on the ability to do data. You'd still need to authorize it in your browser, and I think it costs about $1/1MB so it is totally not worth it.
May be worth looking into because it wouldn't surprise me if their new "service" is screwing things up.

I am aware of 3G voice but the 3G status icon is related to data flow. I have had the phone since launch and posted this because this behavior is not normal. Even Google was perplexed by what it is doing. And as I said it is not constrained by the 4636 settings.
And I disagree that an app can use the network connection as they see fit. Rights are given to perform its intended purpose; anything else is malicious.

Mobile data permission request - help please!

Hi everyone. This is my first post in a long time. I just bought an SGT & I'm over the moon with it - what an incredible piece of tech!
However, I do have one problem/question that I need help with... Bear with me because although it's quite a simple problem, it's difficult to explain! When I configure my APN settings (Globe Philippines), it automatically connects & stays connected unless I lose signal (but then it reconnects automatically again). In almost every developed country in the world, this is not a problem because you would be on a data plan (post-paid) or you could buy a data allowance (pre-paid) so it doesn't matter that it automatically connects & stays connected... you wouldn't keep racking up the charges. But here it's different... The vast majority of people are on pre-paid (we can't qualify for post-paid contract) and the mobile networks charge per 15 minutes of data useage.
So, you see, if my Tab connects automatically without warning it can cost me a small fortune. I'm currently using an App called APNdroid to manually enable/disable my mobile data connection. Although this is better than nothing, it's not ideal. My other phones default to mobile data = off & pop up a warning when I'm about to connect to internet. They also allow me easily terminate the connection when I'm finished browsing.This is what I'm after for the Tab. Surely this is not too much to ask? Does anybody have any suggestions that may help me out?
It seems as though the SGT/Android has been designed with the assumption that everyone that wants to use mobile data will be on a post-paid data plan. I would if I could, but I (and millions of others in this backward country) can't.
Thanks in advance & sorry for the long, rambling post!
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andychud said:
Hi everyone. This is my first post in a long time. I just bought an SGT & I'm over the moon with it - what an incredible piece of tech!
However, I do have one problem/question that I need help with... Bear with me because although it's quite a simple problem, it's difficult to explain! When I configure my APN settings (Globe Philippines), it automatically connects & stays connected unless I lose signal (but then it reconnects automatically again). In almost every developed country in the world, this is not a problem because you would be on a data plan (post-paid) or you could buy a data allowance (pre-paid) so it doesn't matter that it automatically connects & stays connected... you wouldn't keep racking up the charges. But here it's different... The vast majority of people are on pre-paid (we can't qualify for post-paid contract) and the mobile networks charge per 15 minutes of data useage.
So, you see, if my Tab connects automatically without warning it can cost me a small fortune. I'm currently using an App called APNdroid to manually enable/disable my mobile data connection. Although this is better than nothing, it's not ideal. My other phones default to mobile data = off & pop up a warning when I'm about to connect to internet. They also allow me easily terminate the connection when I'm finished browsing.This is what I'm after for the Tab. Surely this is not too much to ask? Does anybody have any suggestions that may help me out?
It seems as though the SGT/Android has been designed with the assumption that everyone that wants to use mobile data will be on a post-paid data plan. I would if I could, but I (and millions of others in this backward country) can't.
Thanks in advance & sorry for the long, rambling post!
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This is a perfectly logical question. Its the same issue when you are roaming in a foreign country/network. Here is what I do Settings => Mobile Network Settings => Data Enabled == OFF when I don't want to use data.

@cnewsgrp... Thanks for the reply. What you are suggesting is pretty much what I'm doing except that instead of going into settings, I have an app on my home screen that does it for me in one click. However, this is not ideal. All I'm after is for my Galaxy Tab to ask me which of my configured APNs do I want to connect to when a data connection is needed (if not using wifi) & then automatically disconnect from it when it's not needed. I have this facility on my Nokia E71.
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Yeah, I remember that with E71. I don't recollect having that option with Android
How about APN Lock App?

No Data (3g/4g). Root related?

I just got off the phone with Verizon. My Rezound has 4G, but the Droid4 has no data (but does have voice, and Wifi works). They had me do the following:
- Reboot the phone (did that before calling)
- Pull and re-seat SIM card and SD card
- Clear Browser app data and cache (morons)
- Toggle airplane mode
- Toggle Data roaming
- Safe mode
I also tried toggling CDMA/LTE with CDMA-only on my own, and cleared the cache partition in Recovery.
Nothing I do can get data back. Also, after a reboot none of the text messages she received today are still in the app. Since my phone is working, a network outage doesn't seem likely. The D4 is rooted but no custom ROM.
still GB 2.3.6
System 6.13.219.XT894
Kernel 2.6.35.7
Frozen apps via TBPro: Apps, Blockbuster, IM, IM Prescence, Let's Golf, Mobile Hotspot, MOG, My VZ Mobile, Netflix, NFL Mobile, Slingbox, Twitter AUth, VCast, Verizon Video, Videosurf VZ Nav.
Any advice?

Unfreeze all apps and check
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Thanks, but it didn't change anything. VZW suggested I try a factory reset, will it mess up root? I don't mind rerunnung the script if necessary but I want to make sure it won't break the phone.
One other question is because I am new to SIM cards, could a bad SIM work with voice but not data?
EDIT: Doesn't the 3G still go over CDMA, so shouldn't I have 3g at least, even with a bad SIM?

I have very off and on data. I go to airplane mode and back and sometimes it fixes it. Could b circumstance..I am on my second d4 and it was so bad I had to get on wifi to setup and sync everything on this new replacement ...I'm rooted as well but obviously I wasn't when I did setup and it was bad. I don't think root is to blame. Could b the sim. We r in a good coverage area supposedly.
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Gig103 said:
Thanks, but it didn't change anything. VZW suggested I try a factory reset, will it mess up root? I don't mind rerunnung the script if necessary but I want to make sure it won't break the phone.
One other question is because I am new to SIM cards, could a bad SIM work with voice but not data?
EDIT: Doesn't the 3G still go over CDMA, so shouldn't I have 3g at least, even with a bad SIM?
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Voice is still over CDMA/3G, LTE is for data only, and is what the SIM is for.

On your phone do you have the lte logo pop up?
I have been having issues with my d4 which is rooted as well. I have figured out for some reason the APN that controls the internet keeps dropping out however the IMS APN stays connected. When that happens the lte logo stays up but turns white and when the internet APN is connected it turns blue.
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There is no signal bar for 3g or LTE. unless you refer to a different symbol?

Some of the Razrs have the same problem. Probably you will need a phone swap, would try factory reset first.

Did you do a restore from titanium backup? If so was it a restore of EVERYTHING? Cause I did that when I got my droid 4 and I had no data or anything once the restore finished. I had to do a full blown factory reset then everything was good again.
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Data Enabled?
Gig103 said:
I just got off the phone with Verizon. My Rezound has 4G, but the Droid4 has no data (but does have voice, and Wifi works). They had me do the following:
- Reboot the phone (did that before calling)
- Pull and re-seat SIM card and SD card
- Clear Browser app data and cache (morons)
- Toggle airplane mode
- Toggle Data roaming
- Safe mode
I also tried toggling CDMA/LTE with CDMA-only on my own, and cleared the cache partition in Recovery.
Nothing I do can get data back. Also, after a reboot none of the text messages she received today are still in the app. Since my phone is working, a network outage doesn't seem likely. The D4 is rooted but no custom ROM.
still GB 2.3.6
System 6.13.219.XT894
Kernel 2.6.35.7
Frozen apps via TBPro: Apps, Blockbuster, IM, IM Prescence, Let's Golf, Mobile Hotspot, MOG, My VZ Mobile, Netflix, NFL Mobile, Slingbox, Twitter AUth, VCast, Verizon Video, Videosurf VZ Nav.
Any advice?
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I assume you've already tried settings->data manager->data enabled, checked?
My D4 decided to turn this feature off on its own yesterday. I use the Smart Actions app to disable cell data when using a wifi connection and this configuration might have caused some kind of hiccup and not allowed the cell data to come back on when a wifi connection was out of range. I had to hunt around a little after trying most of the stuff you mention above only to find the data enabled, not checked. Simply turned it on and LTE came back instantly.
Good luck.

Verizon tech support told me this is a known software issue with the Droid 4 and advised me to keep the WiFi turned off when I didn't need it. They also said a fix was on the way around the end of July. (This now appears to be ICS, which looks like it might be out very soon.)
From my own use, WiFi appears to be responsible. I can lose my data connection when WiFi is turned on even when I'm not connected just like I was told.
I can also lose data when Notify Me is enabled in settings. This will manifest as losing the data connection when opening an app that uses a data connection, such as the browser. I chalk this up to the phone refreshing the available AP list for which turns on the WiFi, even when it's disabled.
My suggestion is to turn off WiFi when you don't need it and disable anything else that can call it up like the Notify Me setting, Google and Verizon location services, and turn off settings in any apps that might enable it.
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[Q] Rogue Robots

I am on my second T-Mo LG G4. Both have exhibited a strange behavior that is rather annoying. I've disabled all automatic sync features and the like - in the same manner as I've done successfully with both a Nexus 5 and a LS990 G3.
So here's the issue(s):
1) Whenever I boot the phone - it automatically turns mobile on. e.g. as indicated by "Data Enabled" quick toggle or the Android Setup slider control.
2) Most times when I enable WiFi, the phone (or whatever) systematically turns on mobile data again - and it's damn repeatable e.g. at ~ 15 seconds after I tap the WiFi quick toggle.
3) Most times when I am running off of WiFi, the mobile data will randomly come on by itself even after I hammered it off that first time in response to manually turning on WiFi.
Zero technical assistance from the obvious sources. LG points the finger at T-Mo. T-Mo points the finger at LG.
I'm starting to think this is related to the Lollipop API change crammed down everyone's throat by Google.
I'm on metered service and have grown accustomed to living off of WiFi. With prior phones I was in full control of what I've been charged. With the G4, it's nearly impossible to manage ...
Any thoughts, shared experiences or recommendations ?

Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!

Hey, thanks for the response and suggestions.
To be clear, I'm on Ting's GSM network - which is serviced by T-Mo.
I'm well versed with Android and prior to this phone I was on a Nexus 5 with 5 .1 .1 and it didn't behave like this.
I've tried all the buried settings to get in front of "enabled" data on two different G4's but nothing is panning out.
And yes, I did think of that T-Mo diagnostics app and it's not enabled - at least not on the surface.
And one more thing, my WiFi is solidly connected when data goes rogue robot.
Hadn't considered the data cap setting. Seems clunky but might help until a custom ROM is available.
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Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!
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