auto brightness draining battery - HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Interestingly, turning off the auto brightness and setting the high value stopped the drain.
Anyone can confirms?

That makes sense to me, it probably uses more resources to constantly monitor and adjust the brightness. Just a guess. I get better battery life with the HTC intelligent phone app turned off, similar situation I think.
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davevanos said:
That makes sense to me, it probably uses more resources to constantly monitor and adjust the brightness. Just a guess. I get better battery life with the HTC intelligent phone app turned off, similar situation I think.
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I think such hardware related functions constantly run in the background.
By the way i believe auto brightness helps devices like e iPhone with its slcd display.
The htc devices use TN display

The problem still exists in tango.
Lame HTC

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[Q] Juice Defender

Could some1 tell me if it is adviseable to use this app? Does it make a difference to the battery life?
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I tryed it for a week, but couldn't realy se that it made a difference to the battery consumption.
The best thing - and i know it may sound a bit silly - was actually to "paly" with the features and controls.
But was it worth to pay for, i would have to say no.
wrong, if you're using the preset..yes it will make slight difference...
i used the advanced mode, and customized/configured it to my behaviour of using my phone
my phone will goes into super sleep mode at night - flight mode
combined with setCPU on non peak time (12AM-8AM) - 200mhz
my battery can last for 1 week without charging...
if it not doing its job, then you're using it wrong...
its like how you use your computer...does it improve your productivity?if you're using it wrong, then most likely it will not improve your productivity.
its just a tool, its how you used it that matters.
I did use the advanced mode and tryed several settings, but i didn't make much diffrence.
Perhaps my user habits just don't fit to the app ;-)
I guess ill have to try it myself ^_^
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I have used JD for over 2 months now and it has definitely helped preserve juice when the phone is idle. As much as 1.7 times in daytime on working days. It basically saves me the headache of closing or killing any data hungry applications/Widgets by shutting down all data after I lock the phone.
However if you are using the phone all the time which I end up doing on weekends, then it will not be of much use. It increases juice by just 1.2 times which is meaningless.
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Does anyone know how to make it turn on to refresh widgets?
You can set up a schedule where, for example, it will turn on data for 60 seconds every 15 minutes to allow Widgets etc to sync or update. Also learns where your wifi networks are and turns wifi on/off based on location. Works very well once it learns your networks.
I use the latest beta which also allows you to customize the automatic brightness setting so that it actually does what it's supposed to.
Well worth the money I think.
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My experience after one week using it:
Preserves battery by factor 1.4 to 1.7.
So I think it is working and worth the money if you need the extra battery life.
As I'm charging it every night or if I have enough power left the next morning at work I have disabled it as long as my next outdoor trip will start. THEN I will really need the extra power.
BR
Sven
It does cause a lot of slowdown sometimes and often doesn't autorun but it is increasing my battery life a lot.
Factor 2.2 for me. Super app.
so that 2.2 for you how many hours usage on a single charge do you get?
Android Revolution HD dosen't need this app
It works good on motorola bravo. :-D
I didn't notice a huge difference...
Using cm7 I've found I get a great battery life.
I also use llama which can set profiles based on location which saves...like turning data off when at work etc
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More juice you save = You limit your phone functionality/experience more
I got a car phone charger to solve my battery life issue
mixed reviews from this app was really wondering if this really works..
I agree that it limits your experience if you use it. Part of the fun of having a smartphone is getting updates. If all you care about is text messages, then you'll be fine with this app. If you are getting push updates you'll most likely encounter problems.
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I tried it for 1 month, didn't find it feasible enough, plus it slows down everytime I turn on my phone (when it establishes wifi/3G connection).
I didn't find a huge difference when I used it on ARHD 1.1.1
To each his own I suppose.

Battery saving tips for the N4

I know there are a few threads about the mediocre battery life on the Nexus 4, but I thought it might be an idea to bring solutions to the battery issue into one thread. So if you have any tips, please post!
Mine so far are:
1. Turn off location access: this does mean Google Now doesn't work, but I've not found it that useful here in the UK. Maps / location access seems to use a lot of juice.
2. Stop using Chrome: on my nexus 7 there doesn't seem to be problem, but on my N4 Chrome absolutely hammers the battery. I've switched to Dolphin and seen a marked difference in longevity.
3. Chrome tilt scrolling: this didn't do much for me, but some have reported better battery life using Chrome if tilt scrolling is disabled. Go to settings, developer tools, untick tilt scrolling.
4. General measures: limit 3g usage, WiFi sleep at night, disable active wallpapers, limit live widgets etc.
5. Give it time: it'll take a few charge / discharge cycles for your battery to work at its best.
Any more from the wise?
Simon
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Guess not then!
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1. Don't use phone
Turn off animations and doing this also makes any phone snappier
ceejay83 said:
1. Don't use phone
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Dont forget to turn the phone off.
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sempersi said:
1. Turn off location access: this does mean Google Now doesn't work, but I've not found it that useful here in the UK. Maps / location access seems to use a lot of juice.
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It's better to just turn off Google Now. Now polls pretty regularly and is a bit of a battery suck. Turning off GPS and then opening Maps is, frankly, dumb.
2. Stop using Chrome: on my nexus 7 there doesn't seem to be problem, but on my N4 Chrome absolutely hammers the battery. I've switched to Dolphin and seen a marked difference in longevity.
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Chrome is also slow as ass and it always takes three taps to do anything, like accessing bookmarks. Oh, and no flash. So...solid idea.
sempersi said:
4. General measures: limit 3g usage, WiFi sleep at night, disable active wallpapers, limit live widgets etc.
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Why aren't you charging your phone at night?
5. Give it time: it'll take a few charge / discharge cycles for your battery to work at its best.
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That's a myth. The best your lithium battery will ever perform is your first charge. The percentage calculation may be off, but the phone will shut down when the battery reaches minimum voltage regardless of calibration.
If you want to max battery life, make sure that
A) You don't have any wakelocks, or apps that keep your phone from going to sleep. Uninstall those misbehaving apps.
B) Use auto-brightness, or manually keep brightness low.
Google Now alone does not suck much battery. It's the constant location tracking (can be disabled in Google Maps location settings, uncheck all options there).
Without that, Google Now is still usable, but not as "effective".
myorks1127 said:
Turn off animations and doing this also makes any phone snappier
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I dont know if this is battery saving (probably not) but I just put them at x.5
Makes the phone feel way faster while still having some sort of transition animation.
The best one is turn of data
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Turned off Chrome sync. Just log out of it. I don't know if it helps in a noticeable way, but I don't need to it use so it's turned off.
i always wonder this. if you leave the phone in wcdma/gms(auto) mode and turn off data does it still drain more battery than if you foce it to use gsm(force 2g) with network turn off?
Omg these features are why you get a N4. If you wanna turn off all these features you should have gotten a GS3.
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jayprime said:
Omg these features are why you get a N4. If you wanna turn off all these features you should have gotten a GS3.
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Or an iPhone..... Or an old Nokia brick
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If you want Now to poll less, you can just leave Location history enabled but have report location off.
Works for me and Google Now doesn't complain
Oh please, for the love of god, nobody chime in with "get juice defender!!!1"
Just turn off stuff that uses realtime data if you are in a bind. And step down to 2g if you are close to dying. Or use an external battery pack to top off when not by a wall plug.
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And Ugly
Turn off phone, get INSANE BATTERY LIFE. My phone now LITERALLY LASTS FOR MONTHS! I turn it on once a week to check the drain, so far it's at 95%, but it's only been a week and I only charged it to 98%...
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Guys seriously? Turning off Google Now, Location Updating, Maps, Chrome, Apps? Why the hell didn't I just keep my POS flip phone, it lasted weeks on a charge? This phone has the possibility of lasting a good day under heavy use (5hrs screen on with 14hrs standby) or possibly 2 days with light use, thanks to a 2100mAh battery and the S4 Pro. If it doesn't get that battery life out of the box, it's just down to Google to fix it through software. Give it a few cycles and let the battery settle. Then, wait for some updates (they need to fix December in the calendar anyway). Don't suggest turning the phone into a dumbphone...

[Tutorial] Battery saving techniques

So yes this Phone's battery unfortuanatly is not well at all.. but here is how i managed mine to last a day without charging. Let me also say im a heavy user also. I text A LOT and always pull out my phone in class play a few games to pass the time or just browse my phone. So this does work for heavy / light users.
Go to Wifi/ menu / advanced and click never on Keep wifi on during sleep.
Go to settings/ Location access - Switch to off
For your brightness it will be on Auto switch that off and put it almost to the lowest as you dont really need it high just kills the battery.
- Go to the App store and download Easy Battery savor. When you access the app choose intiligent mode. It really helps !
-Dont ever use live wallpaper it just drains it so fast.
- DOwnload Faux App It really helps (Faux kernel Enhancement Project) Once downloaded go to CPU and set max clock to 1.35 instead of 1.5. it will still be buttery smooth and it will drain the battery less.
Also I am using the Franco Kernel - nightly #53 which in my opinion really helps !
- Try to turn off the WiFi usage as much as possible and you will see a huge difference.
That's all from me guys. By doing all this my battery significantly improved and lasts about a day now.
Anyways if you have better solutionson how you manage your battery and how you extend its life.
- post pictures
- post the apps you use
- post everything !
Thank you !
I use harsh. Whenever I don't game, I lower the max freq to just 810mhz, ondemand, row, mpdecision on (as harsh recommended) and it's still buttery smooth, and of course battery life is incredible, and I also do check the Disable HW Overlays and Force GPU in 2d rendering. And since no kernel controlling apps are needed, my phone feels cleaner too I can't upload battery stats yet as I'm in an area with only edge connectiom and I hate using slow internet connections
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Hi.
I think that autobrigthness it's very hard in all phones. It would be an app Download the brightness.
Bye.
In my testing having wifi connected(like ay home and not going saves more battery, this been texted in several android devices including gs3,note 2 and iOS like 4S and iPads, just giving some info
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Why dont you buy an old nokia since you almost get rid of all the cool stuff this phone offers? Brightness to lowest level...that cracked me up lol
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A couple of things I noticed with this. The first thing I notice is, in two of your screenshots, you appear to have mobile data disabled completely. The second thing I noticed is that your final screenshot shows 24hr 52 min on battery, yet according to your clock, a it should really be a total of 33hr 6 min since unplugged. Your first screenshot shows 88% battery remaining with it already having been unplugged for 7hr 35 min. With that screenshot showing a time of 3:11pm, that would mean your phone was unplugged at 7:36am. If the phone was unplugged at 7:36am, then how is it only showing a total of 24hr 52min at 4:42pm the next day? It should be showing 33hr 6min. That's an odd inconsistency there. All in all, even with the data that is showed in your screenshot, it shows very little use as phone idle and cell standby are both in your top 5. Your screen was your highest drain, yet there isn't anything else there accompanying it. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that all you did was keep the data turned off on your phone, and connect to wifi where available. You turned your screen on, but didn't really do anything with the phone besides having the screen just on. That said, even stock with no changes, a person can get 24 hours on a charge if they're disabling their phone and not using it.
Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
skezza said:
Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
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His solution is to turn off connectivity and functionality on the phone. That defeats the purpose of even having the phone at all.
That said, I think a safe UC of maybe 200MHz can have a difference, but to me, it's all about enjoying the phone and the phone experience. No need to screw with it
Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Crisisx1 said:
Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Crisis, I pointed that out above...
Someone tell me how I can go all day AND listen to 8 hours of Bluetooth audio and I will be impressed.
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So yes this phone battery unfortunately is not well at all.
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Just curious, why did you buy it then? Personally, I'm leaving everything on because I bought the phone for the looks and usability.
And yes, the phone lasts me all day while using it for everything including emails, conference calls, web browsing etc.
I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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chrisrozon said:
I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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Same thing here..but I use scripts When I'm in school and all I need my phone for is some tethering and music, I activate my script that sets the max freq to just 810mhz and I undervolt an extra -50mv from the stock undervoltages of harsh, but when I'm out and away, I enjoy the full 1.5ghz quadcore beast trapped inside my pocket
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Don't get me wrong, it's useful to have a decent battery life, but I really don't see the need to turn the device into an expensive brick. My suggestions, which may or may not be better than the ones in the OP, but they seem to work for me on every Android I've come across without screwing with undervolting etc:
1. Turn Auto-Sync off, or increase the duration between each sync. On my old phone, the phone would use Auto-Sync every hour or so which totally killed the battery over the course of day. I turned it off and would sync it manually (taking all of 15 seconds) on a Friday. Made a huge difference, although simply increasing the time between syncs is just as effective if not more so as you still save a bit of time (might opt for that myself :good
2. Use Inverted Apps on SAMOLED, Don't use Inverted Apps on IPS, white colour uses more battery on SAMOLED, but a lot less on IPS :fingers-crossed:
3. Get yourself a Toggle-based Notification bar, you will remember to switch off your WiFi when walking around in public. To that end, switch your WiFi off unless you are connected to a hotspot, the constant scanning will drain your battery and depending on the interval may take quite a large hit over the course of a day. If you rely on WiFi then maybe increase the scan interval time.
4. Turn off all mobile networking services when in a known signal blackspot. e.g. When work pays for us to go to a hotel on the Welsh border in Cheshire, there is absolutely no signal guaranteed unless you go to the end of the driveway, so I turn off all phone services unless I am there. Your phone will drink your battery very quickly otherwise, guaranteed. The easy solution is to use WhatsApp, switch your phone onto Airplane mode then turn on WiFi and connect to a hotspot (if they have one available, hotels usually do). This is surprisingly low on battery consumption.
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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chancy319 said:
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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My battery life is amazing. I guess it just depends on what you compare it to. I had an evo 3d before, and my 3d would be dead by noon without even turning on the screen. My work blackberry lasts 5 days with fairly heavy email usage.
My N4 though, I use it fairly often for browsing, occasional calls throughout the day, streaming audio, this and that. After 12 hours of use I am still at 60% usually. From 7am to 5:30 (typically when i get out of work) I will be at 70%+
Not sure why people are so bent out of shape about it...
On my 3d if I ran facebook app or any stupid **** like that it would kill my battery like i didnt even have one.
Here's another idea get a job or pay attention in school. That will save battery life as well. I have literally seen people stare at a screen without doing anything with the phone, just because they are so obsessed with it being in their hand
Oh and my Sig does not represent the nexus in the mail
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What about those external battery things? Does anyone know where I can find some decent ones online?

5Ways to extend battery life of Nexus5

Here are five ways to extend the battery life of Nexus5. I know that many nexus5 users face the problem with battery life.
1. At first, turn off the auto brightness of your Nexus5. Cause it's the main reason for battery drain. Set your brightness always in medium or low.
2. 2nd step is, Turn off WiFi Scanning. You need to uncheck the "Scanning Always Available" option.
3. 3rd step is, Turn off your GPS location settings and Bluetooth. It draws a lot of battery power. Only use these when you need to use this features.
4. 4rth Step is, always use standard wallpaper, Any kind of animated wallpaper can be the reason for drain battery of your Nexus 5.
5. The final step is , Turn off automatic updates of Applications. But keep them up-to-date.
You forgot "Turn OFF Google Now if you don't use it"
That seems more like a general android guide than one specific to the N5... Just saying.
You forgot about custom kernals and under clocking GPU and CPU and undervolting
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omg i would have never thought of this. you saved my life
Step 1. Install Franco kernel and tweak settings for battery (undervolt, reduce touch_boost)
Step 2. Install Xposed with GravityBox and tweak auto brightness settings
even though these ideas are a bit obvious to the experienced user, i thank the op for trying to help out
With gravity box I get massive battery drain, I know for many it's not an issue but I'm not alone in finding it drains significantly quicker. I still have the xposed framework but using the less feature rich wanam without issue.
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Step 7
I find I get GREAT battery life when I don't turn the screen on. It lasts, like, 10 days!!
ishon said:
Here are five ways to extend the battery life of Nexus5. I know that many nexus5 users face the problem with battery life.
1. At first, turn off the auto brightness of your Nexus5. Cause it's the main reason for battery drain. Set your brightness always in medium or low.
2. 2nd step is, Turn off WiFi Scanning. You need to uncheck the "Scanning Always Available" option.
3. 3rd step is, Turn off your GPS location settings and Bluetooth. It draws a lot of battery power. Only use these when you need to use this features.
4. 4rth Step is, always use standard wallpaper, Any kind of animated wallpaper can be the reason for drain battery of your Nexus 5.
5. The final step is , Turn off automatic updates of Applications. But keep them up-to-date.
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Not true, usually what drains the battery is your apps misusing GPS or you enabled Location reporting. Location reporting really kills battery. As for Bluetooth, I have nothing to comment on that.
I will say as much as we perceive most of these to be common sense I learned a bit. Also I never have since I've owned android phones ever turned off GPS. It only uses it when it needs to. Such as browsing Facebook, maps etc. I also have Google now turned off so it shouldn't be pulling location data in the background now. I never use Bluetooth. My wife has it on all the time on her note 2 and she still gets the through the day with a good enough percentage.
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You forgot about custom kernals and under clocking GPU and CPU and undervolting
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undervolting has minimal impact on battery life
Enddo said:
undervolting has minimal impact on battery life
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Exactly. Plus you can get yourself into bootloops if your phone can't handle certain low values. Only time I messed with voltage was with my sgs1 and 2.
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I know it's not the point of this thread but I have chargers in almost every room in my house, in my cars, and at my desk at work. I leave everything on all the time. I want to use the hell out of this thing. I don't care if the battery degrades faster this way (which I don't think it does) because for the short time I own this phone I want to use every feature of it.
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I know it's not the point of this thread but I have chargers in almost every room in my house, in my cars, and at my desk at work. I leave everything on all the time. I want to use the hell out of this thing. I don't care if the battery degrades faster this way (which I don't think it does) because for the short time I own this phone I want to use every feature of it.
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Exactly. I have a charger at home next to my bed. I have one at work and a car charger. I'd rather be charging as I need then be pushing hard to get stats and be in a jam where I need to make an emergency call or my wife will be trying to call and my phone is dead. I might just be easy to please but as long as I can use my phone and still have some juice left before I go to bed I'm okay. I don't need it to last me without charge more than a day. I've owned a lot of different devices and never once complained about battery life or asked in any forum about battery life. Now I will say there are those people that can't or don't have access to chargers all the time and it can be an inconvenience to not have good battery life.
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you forgot "dont use phone"
ManMOuntain said:
With gravity box I get massive battery drain, I know for many it's not an issue but I'm not alone in finding it drains significantly quicker. I still have the xposed framework but using the less feature rich wanam without issue.
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I have no such issues.
Install a custom launcher like nova launcher and delete the original launcher
Even if google now is turned off in the default launcher 1 accidental swipe to the left will turn on google now. Works for me anyway
i've done NONE of those things, yet my battery lasts about 28-30 hours...
battery savings has more to do with how you use your phone, and with what apps, than little tweaks to the core functionality of the Android OS.
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even though these ideas are a bit obvious to the experienced user, i thank the op for trying to help out
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Yes.I am agree with you, these ideas are even quite obvious for new one month old user as well.:laugh:

12 Ways to Save Battery without Root and break 7hrs SoT

I put together a list of things that helped me get 7 hours SoT on a charge (Wifi). Edit: 6.75hrs SoT. Edit2: 7.75hrs SoT No root access or modifications needed for these.
This is my first Android device and I wanted to share some of the things I've learned mostly reading these forums. It also annoys me to read users complain about their battery life but are unwilling to do anything about it. I hope this will help people to realize the full potential of their phone.
Llama, Tasker, etc: Automate everything you can to save battery. It can be more efficient to run a line of code then to tap the screen.
Force stop all the programs you don't really need running in the background in Settings > Apps > Running. Basically act like your own Greenify. Or use Greenify.
Wakelocks: Track the "Awake Time" of suspicious applications and services and either reboot or force stop them if necessary.
Disable Google applications you don't need. Myself I disabled Chrome, Gmail and News & Weather.
Disable: touch and typing vibration. I have type sounds On and touch sounds Off because those really add up on speaker.
Disable: NFC, Bluetooth, Wireless printing etc. Automate to run only when needed for no lost functionality.
Wifi: Automate to turn on only for Wifi zones of your choice. No lost functionality. Wifi always scanning: Off.
Notifications: Apps and games can send you unnecessary notifications. Disable them. Enable only what you need.
Hotword detection: off. This specifically drains SoT and saves only a single screen tap.
Widgets: These drain battery without ever showing up individually on the stats page. Silent killers.
Lux: Another silent killer even when set "On Wake only" and "Slow". Just by disabling Lux lite and a once-daily updated Feedly widget I noticed significant SoT gains. Using Llama to automate brightness is more efficient.
Speaker vs Headphones: The speaker seems to use more battery.
Two apps that can help you monitor your battery and phone with no root requirement:
Play Store Link.
Current Widget - Set to update manually on your home screen for minimal power draw. Check your charge and discharge rates along with battery temperature.
Play Store Link.
S Tools+ - This just popped up in the XDA apps section the other day. Detailed information on CPU states, Deep Sleep time and ALL your sensors, nicely graphed and very polished including transparent nav bar. Other than real time graphing of sensors this shouldn't be much of a drain.
Speaker vs headphones....what?? Care to explain how? I'm saying the difference is negligible.
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Yeah, you really don't need to do all that to save battery. Just don't turn on data until you need it and you'll get a week of standby on a single charge with this phone, and a full day of usage (or more depending on how much you use it).
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Speaker vs headphones....what?? Care to explain how? I'm saying the difference is negligible.
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I seem to drain more battery listening to music with speakers over headphones but its hard to tell and probably negligible, as you say.
Ober/Hydra said:
Yeah, you really don't need to do all that to save battery. Just don't turn on data until you need it and you'll get a week of standby on a single charge with this phone, and a full day of usage (or more depending on how much you use it).
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Not sure if serious or not. That functionality is enabled on the phone by default and you'll see many people struggling to get over 3 hours SoT like that.
There are even reviews which seem to think topping 3 hours SoT is some kind of miracle. Most will answer that by saying: "you need root and flash x ROM with y kernel".
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Oops
bblzd said:
I put together a list of things that helped me get 7 hours SoT on a charge (Wifi). No root access or modifications needed for these.
Llama, Tasker, etc: Automate everything you can to save battery. It can be more efficient to run a line of code then to tap the screen.
Force stop all the programs you don't really need running in the background in Settings > Apps > Running. Basically act like your own Greenify. Or use Greenify.
Wakelocks: Track the "Awake Time" of suspicious applications and services and either reboot or force stop them if necessary.
Disable Google applications you don't need. Myself I disabled Chrome, Gmail and News & Weather.
Disable: touch and typing vibration. I have type sounds On and touch sounds Off because those really add up on speaker.
Disable: NFC, Bluetooth, Wireless printing etc. Automate to run only when needed for no lost functionality.
Wifi: Automate to turn on only for Wifi zones of your choice. No lost functionality. Wifi always scanning: Off.
Notifications: Apps and games can send you unnecessary notifications. Disable them. Enable only what you need.
Hotword detection: off. This specifically drains SoT and saves only a single screen tap.
Widgets: These drain battery without ever showing up individually on the stats page. Silent killers.
Lux: Another silent killer even when set "On Wake only" and "Slow". Just by disabling Lux lite and a once-daily updated Feedly widget I noticed significant SoT gains. Using Llama to automate brightness is more efficient.
Speaker vs Headphones: The speaker seems to use more battery.
This is my first Android device and I wanted to share some of the things I've learned mostly reading these forums. It also annoys me to read users complain about their battery life but are unwilling to do anything about it. I hope this will help people to realize the full potential of their phone.
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I suspected Lux was using battery but the actual app use is showing up as very very minimal. Less than 1%.
Its far too convenient! Does llama have the same exact function built in?
Don't forget to disable location reporting in Google Apps.
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You also forgot to keep the phone off.
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Ulver said:
You also forgot to keep the phone off.
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If you actually read the post you would realize there is no lost functionality.
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7hr sot? No way...
bleuwave said:
7hr sot? No way...
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The link is in the post, my good fellow.
Man I wish I could just stare at a 5 inch screen for 7 hours a day.
Not.
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I must admit that using lux from within llama allows me to refresh brightness on screen rotation too which is not bad at all at least.
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WATERYEW said:
Man I wish I could just stare at a 5 inch screen for 7 hours a day.
Not.
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Gotta agree. The vast majority of users charge overnight and with my own setup - currently on stock rom and stock kernel (though I'm currently bouncing between that and Franco to see which I prefer) with pretty much everything always on (NFC, WiFi, data, location access, though I disable notifications from the likes of Facebook, Twitter, etc. just because I'm not that invested in social networks that I'd want constant updates) I can get 3+ hours SOT - which I'd assume is more than enough for most people. Greenify is to thank for most of my battery savings.
But don't get me wrong - for those who do need more SOT than that, the OP is fantastic advice, and I'll be coming back to this thread when I'm on holiday etc. and won't be able to charge every night.
great tips
kuddos to the OP
very helpful tips...hotword detection remains off for me most the time
as i work in a noisy environment and hardly make use of it unless im relaxed in office/ home
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Don't forget to disable location reporting in Google Apps.
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Agreed :good:
Done most of those, still getting only around 3.5 hours SOT
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If you actually read the post you would realize there is no lost functionality.
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don't mind the haters. they're just mad that they only get 3 hours of screen on time and 10% battery drain per hour when deep sleeping
they would rather complain than take control of their device and if you dont use your own phone exactly like they use their phone, then they call foul and tell you that your results don't matter. they say the same thing to people that use their device like an ipod touch(by putting it in airplane mode).
haters will always hate
outofthisworld said:
I suspected Lux was using battery but the actual app use is showing up as very very minimal. Less than 1%.
Its far too convenient! Does llama have the same exact function built in?
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I think it's just really hard to get good auto brightness on this phone right now due to the sensor. Using Lux Lite didn't help me very much since I was bouncing between very low and extremely high brightness but I imagine the full version could be more useful.
Llama is an extremely light weight application and uses only 6MB of RAM, the lowest of any service I've seen. I think it could add to Android System drain but using Cell Tower locations and properly set up conditions I don't think it will by much.
Thanks for the supportive comments. I really just want to help and have no hidden agenda here. We've known for months now that the N5 can get 8.9 hours SoT web browsing on WiFi and 6.9 hours web browsing on LTE. Of course Anandtech used perfect, non-root conditions with airplane mode On, Gnow off and zero apps or widgets; something that even I am unwilling to put up with. We can still strive to get as close to those numbers as possible.
Two apps that can help you monitor your battery and phone with no root requirement:
Play Store Link.
Current Widget - Set to update manually on your home screen for minimal power draw. Check your charge and discharge rates along with battery temperature.
Play Store Link.
S Tools+ - This just popped up in the XDA apps section the other day. Detailed information on CPU states, Deep Sleep time and ALL your sensors, nicely graphed and very polished including transparent nav bar. Other than real time graphing of sensors this shouldn't be much of a drain.
Generally speaking SOT depends on what you are doing.
I've been down this road and can get SOT times on any phone pushing 5 hours.
To say no loss of functionality is wrong. You state to kill half the apps that I use so that is a LOF to me.
The secret, well not really, is the brightness and network reception.
Turning down the brightness and getting max signal/bandwidth will affect the battery more than turning off apps. Remember the rule of thumb the longer the phone has to stay on for a wakelock the more the battery drains and that is SOT and sleep. What I mean is you'll drain your battery faster connected to a dialup internet connection than fiber at 1gig.... It's all about bandwidth and high signal strength and screen brightness.
Not hating just saying that no one person can say this will give you X number of hours of SOT when everyone's signal/bandwidth environment is different.

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