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While waiting to get our own hands on the phone I thought it might be nice to create a list of reviews and videos as some sort of geeky foreplay.
Reviews
Initial Impressions Of The Nexus 4 - Raising The Bar For Design, Materials, And Build Quality by Android Police
Nexus 4 review by Engadget
Google Nexus 4 review by The Verge
LG Nexus 4 Review by Android Community
Nexus 4 Review by Slashgear
Google Nexus 4 by Wired
Elegant smartphone with a huge flaw by CNET
Nexus 4 Review: Not Exactly Perfect, But Close Enough For Me by TechCrunch
Videos
First Look Google Nexus 4 from LG by uptodateksa2
Elegant smartphone with a huge flaw by CNET
Nexus 4 and Android Jelly Beans 4.2 hands-on by Slashgear
Nexus 4 Unboxing by T3
Nexus 4 Review by ABC News
Video Comparison LG Nexus 4 vs Nokia Lumia 920 vs Sony Xperia T by MediaFlex
LG Nexus 4 front-facing camera sample by AndroidCentral
Post your links and I'll add them to the OP.
The Engadget review is interesting, not least because of the poor benchmark results. Seems that must be some sort of pre-production issue, surely ? Also poor battery life reported. The rest of the review seems very good though.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
The verge says they get about a days use of battery with their review from 9am to 2am
Android Community
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-nexus-4-review-20121102/
CNet
http://reviews.cnet.com/lg-nexus-4/?ttag=gpwl
SlashGear
http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-4-review-02255292/
Wired
http://www.wired.com/reviews/2012/1...paign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Top+Stories)#
So many reviewers are making a big deal about no LTE support. Maybe it is an issue in the US, but here in Canada, only the big cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal have LTE from my understanding. I live in Winnipeg and we don't even have LTE. Telus has fantastic HSPA+ coverage in Winnipeg and it wouldn't be an issue whatsoever.
Also, regarding the glass backing. There are always cases you could buy to protect the glass on the back. The iPhone 4S sold a tonne of devices and noone complained about the glass back or non LTE support, why so many complaints already about the Nexus 4?
To me those are moot points TBH.
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So many reviewers are making a big deal about no LTE support. Maybe it is an issue in the US, but here in Canada, only the big cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal have LTE from my understanding. I live in Winnipeg and we don't even have LTE. Telus has fantastic HSPA+ coverage in Winnipeg and it wouldn't be an issue whatsoever.
Also, regarding the glass backing. There are always cases you could buy to protect the glass on the back. The iPhone 4S sold a tonne of devices and noone complained about the glass back or non LTE support, why so many complaints already about the Nexus 4?
To me those are moot points TBH.
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I completely agree with you. I've only just skimmed the articles at this point to the Battery sections as well as catching the headlines and any block statements, but the concern about LTE doesn't bother me at all so that means... I'm SUPER EXCITED! These reviews are looking pretty good absent the glass and LTE. I've never dropped my phone so the glass backing isn't that big of a deal either as I don't intend to start.
I even live in Vancouver where I can get LTE speeds and I prefer to use HSPA+ cause it's more than enough with Telus.
I'm going to be reading through the reviews fully once I get to work, but so far so good for me!
Edit: The battery seems to get hit pretty hard if you have your screen on full brightness. Which is disappointing cause I normally run full brightness, but since I don't watch video at all I'm hoping that mitigates it. I want this baby running full blast brightness on that gorgeous screen!
Here's another unboxing and review from Slashgear. Just a heads up though, it doesn't even seem like the reviewer knows how to use the phone or use an Android device. Just putting that out there first before you have a look. I had to do a face palm a couple times during the review :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Pt9FSyqek&feature=g-hist
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Here's a review from Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/11/google-nexus-4-review-yes-you-want-this-phone/
CNet Review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/lg-nexus-4/
Here s an unboxing of the nexus 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GR39igdZ-Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ABC News Review:
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/video/nexus-review-17621863
Chochiwpg said:
Here's another unboxing and review from Slashgear. Just a heads up though, it doesn't even seem like the reviewer knows how to use the phone or use an Android device. Just putting that out there first before you have a look. I had to do a face palm a couple times during the review :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Pt9FSyqek&feature=g-hist
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Here's a review from Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
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Haha yeah, it was kinda funny to watch, especially the part where he struggles launching the slashgear app(though to be fair, Google Now did have trouble getting the slashgear part), i think it was the fact he used "Launch SlashGear App" instead of just "Launch SlashGear" that made it not work though.
Was also funny how he allowed siri to interfere when looking for the weather, i wonder if he even noticed
Reviewers who are *****ing about the lack of LTE should actually ***** about the ****ty 3G signal from ATT.
TMO-US here, I'll be happy.... The rest of the world will be happy as well...
Are they reviewing the same device? such as the Loudspeaker?
Chochiwpg said:
So many reviewers are making a big deal about no LTE support. Maybe it is an issue in the US, but here in Canada, only the big cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal have LTE from my understanding. I live in Winnipeg and we don't even have LTE.
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If that's true then Ontario is much further along, LTE has rolled out in even smaller cities like Kingston, Peterborough and Thunder Bay heck even Hunstville has it on Bell (poulation 20k!).
Looking at the Bell map I do see a gap all the way from Thunder Bay Ontario (100k) to Medecine Hat Alberta (population 60k).
Does that have to do with the companies that build the networks in Manitoba and Saskatchewan? I think Bell and Telus use Sasktel or something, and Sasktel is not as aggressive with upgrades?
TechCruch Review is up. Still complains about the lack of the microSD slot and 5.5 hour battery life under heavy usage.
Annoying American reviewers are so focused on LTE they forget the rest of the world doesn't care, and its not really a con, the verge review stunk cause of this, not to mention he made a big deal of a crack yet they lavished the iPhone with praises and downplayed the glass, hypocrites
The number one issue i have with the reviews so far is that they are not reviewing this phone when compared to other phones of the same price. For the price, this is eassssssily the best phone you can get. But they hardly ever mention the price. Very annoying!
Im in the UK so i dont care for the lacking LTE, as the UK wont have a stable, widespread, affordable 4G network for atleast another 12-18 months
jimbob_me said:
The number one issue i have with the reviews so far is that they are not reviewing this phone when compared to other phones of the same price. For the price, this is eassssssily the best phone you can get. But they hardly ever mention the price. Very annoying!
Im in the UK so i dont care for the lacking LTE, as the UK wont have a stable, widespread, affordable 4G network for atleast another 12-18 months
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I totally agree! This phone is stunning value for money and I will order on the 13th. 18m for LTE in the UK is optimistic when 3g is something I can only dream of living on the Suffolk coast
jimbob_me said:
The number one issue i have with the reviews so far is that they are not reviewing this phone when compared to other phones of the same price. For the price, this is eassssssily the best phone you can get. But they hardly ever mention the price. Very annoying!
Im in the UK so i dont care for the lacking LTE, as the UK wont have a stable, widespread, affordable 4G network for atleast another 12-18 months
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^^I'm in Kenya and I don't give a **** about LTE neither does 90% of the world, I really don't like the double standards review sites have, making noise for something which even in their own country isn't widespread enough to be enjoyed by ALL users, yet when Apple didn't include it they made excuses
http://www.challenges.fr/high-tech/...-explique-pourquoi-il-semble-introuvable.html
Now waiting for some dude to come here and tell me this should have been posted on that other dead-ass thread, and report this one to be closed.
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Now waiting for some dude to come here and tell me this should have been posted on that other dead-ass thread, and report this one to be closed.
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Ha.
Oh, and good for LG.
An article in French is not of much help...
and no, I'm not going to use Google Translate. I'd rather throw my phone at a wall.
Translated in chrome:
Cathy Robin, director of the division of LG Mobile France reported on the case that stirred the internet for over two months, the Nexus 4.
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" Google he sacrificed to promote its Nexus 4 "X Phone"?
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LG has finally agreed to deliver the truth of the matter Nexus 4, the smartphone produced by Korean giant Google and ignites Internet since its launch in November. And for good reason. It is found. ( See the test )
Back to the facts. The smartphone sold on the online store GooglePlay.com November 13 faces a huge demand. Out of stock immediately after a few hours in several countries. And since buyers break their teeth with invariable "exhausted" before the two models (8GB and 16GB) . Since December, SFR offers the famous mobile subscription. Extras, it displays a prohibitive tariff: 629.90 euros against 349 euros on Google Play.
Rumors are also rife on the Internet: production voluntarily limited by LG and Google to create a buzz and volunteer shortage, production stoppage by the Korean giant for a new model of smartphone sales loss by Google ...
For Challenges.fr, Cathy Robin, Director of Mobile Communication LG France is the point.
What happens there with the Nexus 4, a highly competitive but unavailable?
- The Nexus 4 proposes an excellent technical specifications / price. Supply problems are not necessarily completely related to LG. Google has presented forecasts calculated according to their previous sales history of Nexus. But they have been less demand. Current deliveries of LG Google correspond to what had been pre-ordered on Google Play. We continue to deliver regularly. But it is lean. This is why the Nexus 4 is always shown as exhausted and the potential buyers feel they can not buy it. For example, the initial forecasts of Google were 10 times higher for United Kingdom and Germany. We deliver so much more in these countries than France. There was a balance that has been poorly anticipated. But be careful, I do not throw stones at anyone. Google and LG, it's going very well. Today, if we want to increase the frequency of deliveries, it takes about 6 weeks time.
The figure advanced smartphones 375,000 products is it true?
I do not know this number, but in any case it is much lower than the reality.
The Nexus 4 is it sold at a loss, as has been said?
We have no interest in selling at a loss. By cons there was an agreement between Google and LG to sell it at a very attractive price. And it's true that 299 euros for the 8GB and 349 euros for the 16 GB is a super attractive price.
Yet the SFR offers naked ... 629.90 euros
I do not have to answer for them, but I guess the purpose of SFR is to sell products with subscriptions.
Production Nexus 4 will she stop?
LG has denied reports [ rumors indicated that the Korean group plans to stop production ]. The Nexus 4 will not stop. On the contrary, the rate will increase. From mid-February, there will be more pressure on the market.
The Nexus 4 it can overshadow the G Optimus, the new flagship of the brand?
It will not shade the Optimus G which combines the best technology from LG [Qualcomm Snapdragon processor S4 Pro quad-core 1.5 GHz, 4.7-inch 1280x768 screen, 4G LTE, camera 13 MP ...] .. There is certainly a common trunk with the Nexus 4 but the ultimate focus. It will be in stores in March. It has particular function QSLIDE that simultaneously displays two different screens at the same time, function QuickMemo used to write notes and share them immediately. I can call my number while having the note displayed. It also has the live zoom that offers the ability to zoom during video playback ... We want to do anyway Nexus 4 and G major success.
In terms of sales, what are your goals for the Optimus G?
The Optimus G was launched two months ago in Korea, Japan and the United States. We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders.
LG has launched a lot of products ( 4X HD , the Vu, the Nexus 4 , G) with the sensation that the group is totally lacking in clarity. What is your strategy?
We went through a difficult period with ups and downs. It was therefore necessary to rebuild the foundation and fundamentals to claim back the top of the market. Must persuade consumers that we come back with quality products. We found the reliability, design and a very good position. It was regain market share in the mid-range for legitimacy. We will now highlight our brand with the L series of the mid-range 3G, 4G Series F and dual carrier with affordable rates. And there will be the G series for iconic products. Emphasis will be placed on top of the market not to mention the mid-range that is worn in France by the arrival of Free. They just reference the L9 is a good sign for us.
And the segment of very large screens?
We launched the view which allowed us to test the appetite for 4:3. It sold very well in Asia where Vu 2 is programmed. But it is a niche market. We will not persist in this format here in Europe. We do not want to disperse.
LG will he propose smartphones operating on Windows Phone 8?
We can all imagine but this is clearly not a priority. We are very pragmatic.
How is LG on the French market?
According to GFK, we had 6% market share in smartphones in late December. If we take only those who operate on Android, we are number 3 [behind Samsung and Sony ].
How do you see 2013?
It will be complicated. Operators to adapt to the offensive Free. There will be a reduction in subsidies. And then there's the arrival of 4G where we want to be a major player. In terms of objectives, should we double our market share, at least. This is ambitious. And if Sony is rather a nice trend, too.
To help condense it, here are some key points from the article:
According to the Director of Mobile Communication at LG France,
-Google based its forecasts on the sales of previous Nexus devices, but demand for the Nexus 4 has been greater than for Google's previous phones.
-LG's current shipments are still fulfilling previous Google Play orders
-Google overestimated demand in some markets and underestimated demand in others, meaning the stock available to ship to some locations was/is unbalanced.
-More devices have been manufactured than the 375,000-400,000 device estimate that popped up xda
-The low price is part of an agreement between Google and LG, but apparently the phone is not being sold at a loss.
No reference to the bumper cases or the wireless orb eh?
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Google needs better estimations: hire me!
"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
christoff_el said:
"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
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It's actually a pretty nice device. When my sister came into town I was able to use the device for a bit. Overall, I was impressed.
Next question. When will those next devices already manufactured be pushed out? When the RMA's and other shipments processing are done?
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Its the logical explanation, although it doesnt make sense, google new how much the nexus 7 which was quite better than the galaxy nexus, why did they think it would be different with the nexus 4?
christoff_el said:
"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
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hahhahahahahahaha loved this! :laugh::good:
"We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders".
Thats alot and still its got demand.
Way to go Nexus brand.
tweaked said:
"We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders".
Thats alot and still its got demand.
Way to go Nexus brand.
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That was a quote about shipments of the Optimus G though.
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steviewevie said:
That was a quote about shipments of the Optimus G though.
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Ahhh, I read it was talking about the nexus.
Google translate sux. lol
OG isnt a selling out brand. Haha
is it possible to flash Optimus G to stock android? i would go for it if it's possible! :laugh:
skyrocket727 said:
is it possible to flash Optimus G to stock android? i would go for it if it's possible! :laugh:
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There is a hack that converts the AT&T OG to a Nexus 4, but it's a bit too faithful of a conversion. The internal storage is limited to 8GB, no LTE (although it can be enabled in the testing menu), and it use the on-screen buttons instead of the capacitive ones.
Also, don't try to flash custom Nexus 4 ROMs to the converted OG -- it'll brick the phone.
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There is a hack that converts the AT&T OG to a Nexus 4, but it's a bit too faithful of a conversion. The internal storage is limited to 8GB, no LTE (although it can be enabled in the testing menu), and it use the on-screen buttons instead of the capacitive ones.
Also, don't try to flash custom Nexus 4 ROMs to the converted OG -- it'll brick the phone.
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noo i changed my mind. I would rather have fully functional JB on my trusty Gnex :laugh:
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noo i changed my mind. I would rather have fully functional JB on my trusty Gnex :laugh:
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While I'm stuck here with a temporary iPhone 4 because my trust Android broke :'(
COME ON LG!
Little correction !
It is said in the article, that everything should get back to normal by mid-february, so there will be less pressure on the market, not more.
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did i read the translated text correctly ? Did the French lady say that Google over-estimated demand in UK and Germany and that is why France got so few ? Well I don''t know about Germany but I'll be kind here and say that as far as the UK is concerned the lady has got her facts completely wrong; and I can prove it along with many more in the UK, especially those still waiting for deliveries. I was on google store within minutes of this device being announced in the UK and I can tell you there were immediate problems and within 1.5mts it was impossible to order anymore. If, as the lady said, the UK was over-stocked how in the name of bee-jesus did we all have problems within 1.5mts of it being announced and some of us are still having problems. I think this lady is probably talking above her pay grade. Anyone who's worked in the corporate world would know that a country director is not necessarily that high up in the food chain.
This is kinda a question and a discussion starter.
The Moto X has allot going for it above other phones:
-It has great battery life
-It has features aimed at the general consumer and keeps the interface looking pretty while doing it
-It has the Moto Maker
-It looks beautiful and unique (wood backs anyone?)
-The price is great for the specs
-The screen is bright and clear despite being only 720p
-Aiming at the everyday consumers not just the geeker consumers
-The marketing budget I think was close to 500 million (I may be wrong)
-It is on all carriers, and has big displays in all their stores (when I was looking around my area at carrier's stores to see if this is true a couple of stores had people actually were looking at the Moto X with delight)
-It has several other small features like fast updates and a decent camera
-Insert other things I forgot to add of what it has going for it
So my question is this. With all these things going for it why wasn't it successful? It is a phone that could have competed with the likes of Samsung and Apple and would have done well doing so, this has always confused me.
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1. Most people like high end specs which the phone kinda lacks.
2. Not enough exposure in media
Motorola did a great job with moto x. I hope they continue with it.
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I have no idea where they spent that marketing budget but the blame has to rest solely on them. So many tech and industry people agree the Moto X was one of the top devices or the top device of 2013. The engineering team who designed it should be extremely proud of the design and features. It really was a total let down in the advertising department - they really needed to push touchless control and active notifications.
Comes down to sammy and apple, those 2 brands seem to be in peoples minds , cool & hip. If you have neither you're second class. I was offered an s4 from Rogers which would have cost me less but I just preferred the feel of how the moto felt in my hands, nor did I want to follow the herd. bah bah bah bah
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Here's what I think. While people know about Motorola, they know Samsung and Apple better. Just about everyone I've talked to knows who Samsung is and what they make for the most part. The Galaxy S series is very popular and has a lot of media attention. The Moto X didn't get a lot of this and MotoMaker even less. Apple on the other hand has a loyal crowd. Macintosh is one of the top three operating systems and a good chunk of those that use Macs are going to to pick up an iPhone because it's an Apple product.
I work as an indirect cell phone retailer (basically I sell AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and a lot of prepaid). When I talk with a customer, almost all of them know about the newest Samsung Galaxy S and/or the newest iPhone. I will also get customers the come in and ask "what's the best phone?" (I love getting asked this) I'll try to ask questions to help find a phone that fits their needs, but most will just pick the phone with the most features, specs, or the simplest to operate.
The thing is, most of us here probably spend a good amount of time looking into the phones we're interested in. We learn what works, doesn't work, how optimized (or not) the system is, and so on. We here are generally the minority of cell phone consumers. Those that have done their "homework" don't come to me asking what phone to get. They generally get the phone themselves and usually off-contract. The majority of consumers will get a familiar named phone that has features and high specs, even if a mid-range phone that's optimized can out perform it.
I think I'm gonna start referring to the iPhone 5S as a midrange device with its 640p screen, dual-core processor, and 1GB of RAM. I don't think 1080p would be beneficial in a 4.7" screen. Offloading the sensor and voice data to tailored DSPs was a smart choice too.
Anyway, it takes time to chip away at the big names like Samsung and Apple.
Where the 2013 Nexus 7 gets praise for its quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro (a rebadged S600), the Moto X gets derided for its dual-core S4 Pro (also using most of the S600 internals). People think it's old hardware, but it's not. That was another uphill battle for Motorola.
A better camera would have resulted in my wife and sister both getting one. I can deal with it, they can't.
However for the first time in years I was asked "what kind of phone is that" by someone. the cashier at home Depot when they were scanning my return email off my phone. "I like the size, it's not huge".
I think moto is (was) off to a great start with a new line of phones with great performance and not huge. Hell the new galaxy s5 is going to be as big as the note at 5.25". What iphoner is going to do that? Not my mom that's for sure. But the x could win those people over over the next few generations of devices.
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Yeah...I don't think Motorola failed as much as Samsung and apple succeeded.
People get iPhone and Samsung thrown at them in ads and word of mouth....so that's what they buy.
It will be hard to change that. Very. Look at iPhone. They've made no significant changes in years. Same old thing...just slightly quicker. But people are buying them...cause that's what their friends have. LOL
It may never change. The other makers can just hope to turn a profit at this point.....beating out the two giants will be a long haul.
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The general public does know about devices like we do. If you asked most people if they knew what was different about the iPhone 5s they would say its gold and has a finger print scanner. Its all word of mouth really. Everybody at my work had I phones but one person bought a galaxy so now everyone else bought a galaxy. Once I go to work with my bamboo back x they will drool.
I have literally owned every smartphone that att has sold plus Nexus's. Moto x blows all of those phones away.
Yeah, I can't even count the number of GS4 and GN3 variants there are internationally. Samsung sells their products EVERYWHERE. They have some serious market penetration, which partially explains their ridiculous sales numbers.
The rest is brand identity. Old Motorola shot themselves in the foot by not offering the same branded phone on every carrier. On Verizon, you could get a Droid RAZR HD, but on AT&T, it was its cousin the Atrix HD. There was no continous brand identity like there is now with the Moto X and Moto G. That helped Samsung build up their Galaxy line too.
Apple and Samsung have its OWN "shiny" stores in malls and stands in Best Buy. Apple was the first one to open cool stores, now Samsung is doing the same.
Moto X arrived in summer without motomaker and was like on 1 or 2 carriers in USA, months later it came to motomaker and was available on all carriers, and now half a year later its available internationally. Half a year is a long time, its already an "old" phone....we got G2, G Flex, and soon S5 coming out.
All I gotta say is... It's a marathon, not a foot race.
Motorola has broken into the smartphone game again, but they need tablets, phablets, laptops and wearables. They need to be competitive in every aspect of people's lives, then and only then will they gain the market share. That my friends will take time and support from us, the true Motorola fans.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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Only available in USA on initial release is the biggest problem.
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Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.
Really simple... money.
Samsung can spend tons of money on marketing, Apple doesn't necessarily needs (its just hype), but they also spend a lot...
Motorola have made the perfect phone, but it lacks on money for advertising and distribution...
That's why I'm please with Lenovo acquisition, they got tons and tons of money and, as it appears, they want to keep Motorola as it is but expand the market distribution.
They need to spend billions in ads campaign and have their super bowl commercials. The word "Motorola" doesn't really rhyme with hip. Another factor is the last two Moto phones are made for ergonomic use and price value, it's not the current fad. You can argue Apple is ergonomic, but the MotoX is lost in the sea of Android big screen phones. The current fad is subsidized 2 years contract and a 6" phablet with high end specs and bloatwares with poor software optimization.
Also MotoX and G just came out for a short time, they need more time to build up the 'Moto' name. There are only two devices now (that's how I see it), it's early days, eventually they'll have to make phablet and tablets as well.
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Only one real answer to this question, the rest of the answers like "specs" are not true (most customers don't know). Answer is marketing.
I don't know if that is true. I have seen several commercials about it. I may be wrong though.
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rupterr said:
Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.
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what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
lenovo buying motorola will be very good for moto x sales moving forward. lenovo is the 3rd largest phone manufacturer and make very high quality ones at that. hopefully they only look to improve the moto x not change it.
I'd say marketing (see iPhone) and most people are specs/benchmarks whores.
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what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
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It was only available thru AT&T in the U.S. when initially released. It took a couple of months for the other carriers to get it. That's where Motorola failed.
Like many others, I would guess, I joined O2 due to their partnership with OnePlus. Like many others I was looking forward to getting (maybe not the 5g but) another OnePlus phone from them.
Sadly their twitter representative confirmed that they will not be offering any of the OnePlus 7 range.
Stating :
We’re afraid at the moment we’ve made the decision not to range the OnePlus 7 series. We always strive to bring the best range of devices to our customers, and continue to work closely with all our partners to review the full portfolio of devices we offer.
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Quite why they would make this decision not to include the OnePlus 7 among "the best range of devices" when it's being lauded around the tech community as OnePlus finally competing head to head with the big boys at the table, is beyond me.
Looks like I, and others I would guess, will be moving supplier soon. Strange and sad decision which I think O2 will live to regret, OnePlus has a very loyal customer base.
Am very disappointed with 02. Usually the refresh deals are great means of getting new phones but well.
The price is a lot more favorable compared to the other options that are available to Canada right now. Only problem is that I can't find an American store that carries the Zenfone 8 and ships to Canada.
What about Asus?
ASUS USA
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Ask them.
blackhawk said:
What about Asus?
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
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They don't ship internationally.
banannerz said:
They don't ship internationally.
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B&H Photo does. A trusted vendor... it's where the pros go. They don't seem to have that model but call them.
International | B&H Photo Video
www.bhphotovideo.com